I thought I'd seen this sort of thing at Screwfix or Toolstation but I
can't see anything like it now. There's lots of PIR detectors and
outside lantern type fittings with PIR but nothing in the bathroom
type of light.

I actually want it for a utility room where there is no chance of an
occupant being stationary.

So, can anyone point me at a fairly bland ceiling LED light fitting
with PIR built in?

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On 20/02/2020 10:08, Chris Green wrote:

I thought I'd seen this sort of thing at Screwfix or Toolstation but I
can't see anything like it now. There's lots of PIR detectors and
outside lantern type fittings with PIR but nothing in the bathroom
type of light.

I actually want it for a utility room where there is no chance of an
occupant being stationary.

So, can anyone point me at a fairly bland ceiling LED light fitting
with PIR built in?


Ebay may be your best bet.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/18W-LED-C...b9a2381050a58e

Chris Green wrote:

can anyone point me at a fairly bland ceiling LED light fitting
with PIR built in?

Why not fit one of the microwave (rather than PIR) sensing lamps in your
own fitting?

They seem to be more of an AliExpress type of item, I did find one on
amazon, but it's on the expensive side, another on eBay but it's on the
slow boat

https://amazon.co.uk/radar-lamp/dp/B07V4PR68D
https://ebay.co.uk/itm/radar-lamp/193113748132

Andy Burns wrote:
Chris Green wrote:

can anyone point me at a fairly bland ceiling LED light fitting
with PIR built in?

Why not fit one of the microwave (rather than PIR) sensing lamps in your
own fitting?

Microwave is fine, I just said PIR to indicate what I wanted it to do
rather than any particular technology.


They seem to be more of an AliExpress type of item, I did find one on
amazon, but it's on the expensive side, another on eBay but it's on the
slow boat

https://amazon.co.uk/radar-lamp/dp/B07V4PR68D
https://ebay.co.uk/itm/radar-lamp/193113748132

It's not urgent and I use AliExpress quite a lot so I'll take a look
there, thanks.

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On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 10:35:24 +0000, Andy Burns
wrote:

Chris Green wrote:

can anyone point me at a fairly bland ceiling LED light fitting
with PIR built in?

Why not fit one of the microwave (rather than PIR) sensing lamps in your
own fitting?

They seem to be more of an AliExpress type of item, I did find one on
amazon, but it's on the expensive side, another on eBay but it's on the
slow boat

https://amazon.co.uk/radar-lamp/dp/B07V4PR68D

I'm confused. From the straight description they seem to be
stand-alone radar lamps but the feedback talks of Alexa?

https://ebay.co.uk/itm/radar-lamp/193113748132

"Microwave radar can through wall, glass, board, etc without the
barrier of metal."

So, if you had one in the hall, separated from the lounge by a non
foil-backed internal wall, you move in the lounge and the hall light
comes on (and stays on if they are working the way most people hope,
eg, 'occupancy')?

Cheers, T i m

T i m wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

https://amazon.co.uk/radar-lamp/dp/B07V4PR68D

I'm confused. From the straight description they seem to be
stand-alone radar lamps but the feedback talks of Alexa?

Probably because that listing contains two types of item, one is a
sensor lamp, the other is a wifi smart lamp

https://ebay.co.uk/itm/radar-lamp/193113748132

"Microwave radar can through wall, glass, board, etc without the
barrier of metal."

So, if you had one in the hall, separated from the lounge by a non
foil-backed internal wall, you move in the lounge and the hall light
comes on (and stays on if they are working the way most people hope,
eg, 'occupancy')?

possibly, depending on range/direction/etc, I daresay the usual youtube
channels have reviewed them ...

On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 12:10:13 +0000, Andy Burns
wrote:

T i m wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

https://amazon.co.uk/radar-lamp/dp/B07V4PR68D

I'm confused. From the straight description they seem to be
stand-alone radar lamps but the feedback talks of Alexa?

Probably because that listing contains two types of item, one is a
sensor lamp, the other is a wifi smart lamp

Doh, thanks (I wish they wouldn't do that).

https://ebay.co.uk/itm/radar-lamp/193113748132

"Microwave radar can through wall, glass, board, etc without the
barrier of metal."

So, if you had one in the hall, separated from the lounge by a non
foil-backed internal wall, you move in the lounge and the hall light
comes on (and stays on if they are working the way most people hope,
eg, 'occupancy')?

possibly, depending on range/direction/etc, I daresay the usual youtube
channels have reviewed them ...

Noted.

Cheers, T i m

On 20/02/2020 10:08, Chris Green wrote:
I thought I'd seen this sort of thing at Screwfix or Toolstation but I
can't see anything like it now. There's lots of PIR detectors and
outside lantern type fittings with PIR but nothing in the bathroom
type of light.


Toolstation still have one I looked at a while back but felt had an out
of date 2D fitting, was ugly as sin, with a polycarbonate cover which
seem to absorb an awful lot of light. But them's just my value judgments

https://www.toolstation.com/28w-ip44...ith-pir/p96058





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Robin wrote:
On 20/02/2020 10:08, Chris Green wrote:
I thought I'd seen this sort of thing at Screwfix or Toolstation but I
can't see anything like it now. There's lots of PIR detectors and
outside lantern type fittings with PIR but nothing in the bathroom
type of light.


Toolstation still have one I looked at a while back but felt had an out
of date 2D fitting, was ugly as sin, with a polycarbonate cover which
seem to absorb an awful lot of light. But them's just my value judgments

https://www.toolstation.com/28w-ip44...ith-pir/p96058

Their search (which is awful) didn't find that for me, thanks, it's a
possibility as beauty is not a requirement. It's a pity it's not LED
though.

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On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 11:35:39 +0000, Chris Green wrote:

Robin wrote:
On 20/02/2020 10:08, Chris Green wrote:
I thought I'd seen this sort of thing at Screwfix or Toolstation but I
can't see anything like it now. There's lots of PIR detectors and
outside lantern type fittings with PIR but nothing in the bathroom
type of light.


Toolstation still have one I looked at a while back but felt had an out
of date 2D fitting, was ugly as sin, with a polycarbonate cover which
seem to absorb an awful lot of light. But them's just my value judgments

https://www.toolstation.com/28w-ip44...ith-pir/p96058

Their search (which is awful) didn't find that for me, thanks, it's a
possibility as beauty is not a requirement. It's a pity it's not LED
though.

And the feedback isn't particularly encouraging. ;-(

Cheers, T i m

Chris Green Wrote in message:
I thought I'd seen this sort of thing at Screwfix or Toolstation but I
can't see anything like it now. There's lots of PIR detectors and
outside lantern type fittings with PIR but nothing in the bathroom
type of light.

I actually want it for a utility room where there is no chance of an
occupant being stationary.

So, can anyone point me at a fairly bland ceiling LED light fitting
with PIR built in?


https://www.toolstation.com/led-luna...ulkhead/p44515

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Jimk Wrote in message:
Chris Green Wrote in message:
I thought I'd seen this sort of thing at Screwfix or Toolstation but I
can't see anything like it now. There's lots of PIR detectors and
outside lantern type fittings with PIR but nothing in the bathroom
type of light.

I actually want it for a utility room where there is no chance of an
occupant being stationary.

So, can anyone point me at a fairly bland ceiling LED light fitting
with PIR built in?


https://www.toolstation.com/led-luna...ulkhead/p44515


https://www.toolstation.com/led-luna...ulkhead/p94485

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Jimk wrote:
Chris Green Wrote in message:
I thought I'd seen this sort of thing at Screwfix or Toolstation but I
can't see anything like it now. There's lots of PIR detectors and
outside lantern type fittings with PIR but nothing in the bathroom
type of light.

I actually want it for a utility room where there is no chance of an
occupant being stationary.

So, can anyone point me at a fairly bland ceiling LED light fitting
with PIR built in?


https://www.toolstation.com/led-luna...ulkhead/p44515

Exactly what I want! Thank you. It's not surprising my searches on
Toolstation didn't find it though as it doesn't even say it's got a
motion detector until you look at the details and/or selection box.

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Chris Green Wrote in message:
Jimk wrote:
Chris Green Wrote in message:
I thought I'd seen this sort of thing at Screwfix or Toolstation but I
can't see anything like it now. There's lots of PIR detectors and
outside lantern type fittings with PIR but nothing in the bathroom
type of light.

I actually want it for a utility room where there is no chance of an
occupant being stationary.

So, can anyone point me at a fairly bland ceiling LED light fitting
with PIR built in?


https://www.toolstation.com/led-luna...ulkhead/p44515

Exactly what I want! Thank you. It's not surprising my searches on
Toolstation didn't find it though as it doesn't even say it's got a
motion detector until you look at the details and/or selection box.


De nada :-)
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On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 10:08:18 +0000, Chris Green wrote:

I thought I'd seen this sort of thing at Screwfix or Toolstation but I
can't see anything like it now. There's lots of PIR detectors and
outside lantern type fittings with PIR but nothing in the bathroom
type of light.

I actually want it for a utility room where there is no chance of an
occupant being stationary.

And that's the rub isn't it. I'd love to have automatic lights
throughout the house but don't want them going of if we are sitting
still. I'm guessing there may be some clever tech out there that might
work as needed by now (RADAR complained with PIR or something)?

So, can anyone point me at a fairly bland ceiling LED light fitting
with PIR built in?

Sorry no (but would also be interested in any answers for my mums
cupboard_under_the_stairs).

FWIW, we a motion detecting (LED) lamp holder / adaptor in the hall
that seems to do the same as you require? It's quite long so may be an
issue if height is an issue (tall ceilings here so it's not). It is
also adjustable sensitivity dusk_to_dawn with PIR movement detection
that has an adjustable 'On' time and seems pretty reliable.

Cheers, T i m

T i m wrote:

interested in any answers for my mums cupboard_under_the_stairs

A "wardrobe" switch on the door?

On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 11:41:24 +0000, Andy Burns
wrote:

T i m wrote:

interested in any answers for my mums cupboard_under_the_stairs

A "wardrobe" switch on the door?

We could but that means modding the actual wiring itself, rather than
say just changing the lamp fitting or lamp.

And we would have to make sure it was set right as I sometimes open
the door slightly to hang my coat on. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

On Thursday, 20 February 2020 10:51:02 UTC, T i m wrote:
On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 10:08:18 +0000, Chris Green wrote:

I thought I'd seen this sort of thing at Screwfix or Toolstation but I
can't see anything like it now. There's lots of PIR detectors and
outside lantern type fittings with PIR but nothing in the bathroom
type of light.

I actually want it for a utility room where there is no chance of an
occupant being stationary.

And that's the rub isn't it. I'd love to have automatic lights
throughout the house but don't want them going of if we are sitting
still.

We have automatic LED tubes lights that go off if there's no movement
after about 20mins or so, but sometimes when students are just sitting
at the PC's typing the lights go off.

They definantly go off when a student falls asleep at the PC, which is what I would expect them to do, both students and the lights.



I'm guessing there may be some clever tech out there that might
work as needed by now (RADAR complained with PIR or something)?

Might be expensove though, but handy for my cat having lights come on so she can see her food bowl ;-)



So, can anyone point me at a fairly bland ceiling LED light fitting
with PIR built in?

Sorry no (but would also be interested in any answers for my mums
cupboard_under_the_stairs).

why not use a good old fashion microswitch either with or without a reed swtich,
like fridge doors use.

On 20/02/2020 10:08, Chris Green wrote:
I thought I'd seen this sort of thing at Screwfix or Toolstation but I
can't see anything like it now. There's lots of PIR detectors and
outside lantern type fittings with PIR but nothing in the bathroom
type of light.

I actually want it for a utility room where there is no chance of an
occupant being stationary.

So, can anyone point me at a fairly bland ceiling LED light fitting
with PIR built in?



PIR fitted to light switch instead of it being in the light fitting?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Timeguard-Z.../dp/B003BUK2JU

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alan_m wrote:
On 20/02/2020 10:08, Chris Green wrote:
I thought I'd seen this sort of thing at Screwfix or Toolstation but I
can't see anything like it now. There's lots of PIR detectors and
outside lantern type fittings with PIR but nothing in the bathroom
type of light.

I actually want it for a utility room where there is no chance of an
occupant being stationary.

So, can anyone point me at a fairly bland ceiling LED light fitting
with PIR built in?



PIR fitted to light switch instead of it being in the light fitting?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Timeguard-Z.../dp/B003BUK2JU

Doesn't really work for this case as the reason for wanting it is that
I'm about to bury the light switch behind a cupboard and I don't fancy
digging new holes in the wall to move it.

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On 20/02/2020 10:08, Chris Green wrote:
I thought I'd seen this sort of thing at Screwfix or Toolstation but I
can't see anything like it now. There's lots of PIR detectors and
outside lantern type fittings with PIR but nothing in the bathroom
type of light.

I actually want it for a utility room where there is no chance of an
occupant being stationary.

So, can anyone point me at a fairly bland ceiling LED light fitting
with PIR built in?


I bought "8W 14W E27/B22 LED PIR Motion Sensor Auto Lamp Bulb Infrared
Energy Light Home+" on ebay. It works well but I don't see it for sale
now.

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