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A/C unit tripping electrics when it rains
In 2005 I had a Millenniumair KFR-34GW Air Conditioning unit from
Global Cooling installed to cool an attic room, after reading about the company on here. It plugs into a socket. Recently if the unit was running the sockets in the house tripped about 15 minutes after it started to rain. I don't know where the water is getting in but I've tried to cover (some of) the unit with a plastic table, tape and bin bags, and after doing this it trips after hours rather than minutes. Is there anything that can be done, without replacing the whole system? Photos: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...a040d0_o_d.jpg Now https://live.staticflickr.com/97/213...140895_o_d.jpg. In 2005 ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On Sunday, 2 February 2020 22:30:07 UTC, quig wrote:
In 2005 I had a Millenniumair KFR-34GW Air Conditioning unit from Global Cooling installed to cool an attic room, after reading about the company on here. ?? It plugs into a socket. Recently if the unit was running the sockets in the house tripped about 15 minutes after it started to rain. I don't know where the water is getting in but I've tried to cover (some of) the unit with a plastic table, tape and bin bags, and after doing this it trips after hours rather than minutes. Is there anything that can be done, without replacing the whole system? Photos: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...a040d0_o_d.jpg Now https://live.staticflickr.com/97/213...140895_o_d.jpg. In 2005 insulation test the unit to confirm whether it's the problem. If it trips during rain it could be due to either rain getting into it or just the increase in RH causing borderline insulation to conduct. If it's now protected from rain it may be the latter. Again divide & conquer, use an insulation tester. Hopefully you can locate the defective part. Sometimes nothing more than a surface clean is needed. NT |
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On Sunday, 2 February 2020 22:30:07 UTC, quig wrote:
In 2005 I had a Millenniumair KFR-34GW Air Conditioning unit from Global Cooling installed to cool an attic room, after reading about the company on here. It plugs into a socket. Recently if the unit was running the sockets in the house tripped about 15 minutes after it started to rain. I don't know where the water is getting in but I've tried to cover (some of) the unit with a plastic table, tape and bin bags, and after doing this it trips after hours rather than minutes. Is there anything that can be done, without replacing the whole system? Photos: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...a040d0_o_d.jpg Now https://live.staticflickr.com/97/213...140895_o_d.jpg. In 2005 You don't say if an RCCD is fitted and if it's that that trips rather than an overload. |
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harry Wrote in message:
You don't say if an RCCD is fitted and if it's that that trips rather than an overload. The consumer unit has an RCD, which IIRC is what trips. Photo of consumer unit (not tripped): https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...e91d1a_o_d.jpg ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On 03/02/2020 16:32, quig wrote:
harry Wrote in message: You don't say if an RCCD is fitted and if it's that that trips rather than an overload. The consumer unit has an RCD, which IIRC is what trips. Photo of consumer unit (not tripped): https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...e91d1a_o_d.jpg Why did you say MCB then? ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ -- it should be clear by now to everyone that activist environmentalism (or environmental activism) is becoming a general ideology about humans, about their freedom, about the relationship between the individual and the state, and about the manipulation of people under the guise of a 'noble' idea. It is not an honest pursuit of 'sustainable development,' a matter of elementary environmental protection, or a search for rational mechanisms designed to achieve a healthy environment. Yet things do occur that make you shake your head and remind yourself that you live neither in Joseph Stalins Communist era, nor in the Orwellian utopia of 1984. Vaclav Klaus |
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I'd hazard a guess there's a leaky weatherproof seal or a damp cobweb somewhere but given your apparent inability to differentiate between an mcb and an rcd I strongly suggest you get someone who knows what he is doing to investigate.
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Cynic Wrote in message:
I'd hazard a guess there's a leaky weatherproof seal or a damp cobweb somewhere but given your apparent inability to differentiate between an mcb and an rcd I strongly suggest you get someone who knows what he is doing to investigate. I did get an electrician to look at it. He took the cover off the outdoor unit, but wasn't sure what the problem was. Diagram: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...7ebc8f_o_d.jpg Inside outdoor unit: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...6db68a_o_d.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...53ff19_o_d.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...ec3f74_o_d.jpg ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On Thursday, 13 February 2020 17:44:48 UTC, quig wrote:
Cynic Wrote in message: I'd hazard a guess there's a leaky weatherproof seal or a damp cobweb somewhere but given your apparent inability to differentiate between an mcb and an rcd I strongly suggest you get someone who knows what he is doing to investigate. I did get an electrician to look at it. He took the cover off the outdoor unit, but wasn't sure what the problem was. Diagram: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...7ebc8f_o_d.jpg Inside outdoor unit: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...6db68a_o_d.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...53ff19_o_d.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...ec3f74_o_d.jpg Looks like a bunch of dust in there between electrics & case. I'd clean it but I don't advise you do. What testing did he do? Isolate various bits & megger them? Or did he just literally look under the cover & give up? NT |
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On Thursday, 13 February 2020 17:44:48 UTC, quig wrote: Cynic Wrote in message: I'd hazard a guess there's a leaky weatherproof seal or a damp cobweb somewhere but given your apparent inability to differentiate between an mcb and an rcd I strongly suggest you get someone who knows what he is doing to investigate. I did get an electrician to look at it. He took the cover off the outdoor unit, but wasn't sure what the problem was. Diagram: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...7ebc8f_o_d.jpg Inside outdoor unit: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...6db68a_o_d.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...53ff19_o_d.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...ec3f74_o_d.jpg Looks like a bunch of dust in there between electrics & case. I'd clean it but I don't advise you do. What testing did he do? Isolate various bits & megger them? Or did he just literally look under the cover & give up? NT I don't recall him testing the components, but I can't be sure that he didn't as it was some time ago. I did switch on the unit for him. He suggested that it might be a component but wasn't sure. I did try an air duster, but at the recommended 1 second bursts it wasn't making much difference. ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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You'd be much better getting an a/c specialist in to sort the problem out. Considering the electronic circuitry in a modern unit don't let anyone waving a megger about go anywhere near the unit.
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Cynic wrote
You'd be much better getting an a/c specialist in to sort the problem out. Considering the electronic circuitry in a modern unit don't let anyone waving a megger about go anywhere near the unit. Yeah, they have a megger detector and an explosive gorilla net that entangles the megger waver. Funky. |
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Lonely Auto-contradicting Psychotic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! LOL
On Sun, 1 Mar 2020 19:46:02 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: Yeah, they have a megger detector and an explosive gorilla net that entangles the megger waver. Funky. You have **** for brain, senile **** head! -- Bill Wright to Rot Speed: "That confirms my opinion that you are a despicable little ****." MID: |
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