Andrew wrote:
On 08/10/2019 17:29, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 08/10/2019 15:56, Andrew wrote:
On 08/10/2019 11:17, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
To be fair, I suspect they hadn't done a freelander before and
unless you KNOW that the front coupling is fragile and you have to
tie up the prop shaft before removing the centre bearings and VC
then its an easy mistake to make.

So take it to a LandRover dealer and pay the appropriate labour
rate !.

Er no. Just before I went into hoipsital for my cancer operatin I
made that mistake. They wanted to charge me £1500 for an MOT. I
told them to stop work and give me the car back. I had to threaten
them with the police. Eventually I paid for a bit of work to the
handbrake and took it for a second MOT. It passed.

I then involved an official MOT man who failed it on a couple of
minor things. He had words with the workshop manager.

I then learnt that the same workshop manager who had tried to stiff
me years ago for £3000 quid for a new XJS rear diff when it only
needed a new oil seal, was involved.



Back Street grease-monkey outfits are hit and miss when you have a
non-straight forward vehicle, unless you are certain that they are
specialists in that make of car.


This is not a back street grease moneky outfit. Its a decent firm
that does alot of work for commercial vehicles. I use them because
they have the headroom to get under my camper on a 4 poster.

Many years ago there used to be a Mercedes dealership in a town
called Blackpool - oop north.
I know for a fact that they just sandblasted the spark plugs,
filtered the engine oil and charged the customer for new.



You'll have a job to filter dirty diesel engine oil. How many people
in Blackpool can afford a decent merc. Are these clapped out taxi's ?.

Do diesel engines have spark plugs?

On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 21:55:45 +0100, Steve Walker
wrote:


Send the letter as a signed for delivery and they can't claim to have
not received it.

Actually, if you are dealing with unscrupulous dealers (which I
appreciate you say isn't the case here) you shouldn't use a signed for
service. Any cunning scrote would refuse to accept it thus providing
them with proof of non-delivery. Send it normal 1st class mail and
get a proof of posting. They will be deemed to have received two days
later.

As others have said this doesn't stop them claiming never to have
received it and courts will normally allow them to enter a defence but
can get a bit po faced about it.

Funny isn't it, if you are sent a letter demanding payment by a utility
company, bank or credit card company and threatening court action, you
are DEEMED to have received it, without any proof.

See above :-)

Methods of service

6.3 Rules and practice directions - service of documents.

"(1) A claim form may (subject to Section IV of this Part and the
rules in this Section relating to service out of the jurisdiction on
solicitors, European Lawyers and parties) be served by any of the
following methods –

(a) personal service in accordance with rule 6.5;

(b) first class post, document exchange or other service which
provides for delivery on the next business day, in accordance with
Practice Direction 6A;

(c) leaving it at a place specified in rule 6.7, 6.8, 6.9 or 6.10;

(d) fax or other means of electronic communication in accordance with
Practice Direction 6A; or

(e) any method authorised by the court under rule 6.15.

(2) A company may be served –

(a) by any method permitted under this Part; or

(b) by any of the methods of service permitted under the Companies Act
2006.

On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 15:59:35 +0100, "dennis@home"
wrote:

On 09/10/2019 14:23, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Pamela wrote:
Out of interest, why would any back street MOT testing station give a
ceritficate to an unroadworthy car?

Surely it wouldn't ever be worth their while unless it was sweetened
with a backhander?

That's exactly how it works. Mate paid 80 quid for one recently. The car
wasn't unsafe - just had some features which would fail an MOT.


can you post details so it can be reported?

if not then you are also guilty of a crime.

What are you, some kind of grass?

You would not last long on the inside.

On Wed, 09 Oct 2019 14:56:41 -0700, clinically insane, pedophilic, serbian
bitch Razovic, the resident psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous
sexual cripple, making an ass of herself as "Grik-*******e®™", farted again:


What are you, some kind of grass?

You would not last long on the inside.

Someone needs to flush you down the toilet you escaped from, you piece of
**** psychopath!

--
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"Why do we still have outdated laws prohibiting paedophilia? Do you
seriously think that a 12-year old who spends 15 hours a day on Facebook
doesn't know what's going on?"
MID:

Just to say that at close of play last night I got a call.

"***** Vehicles here, if you get a new propshaft we will pay you for it
and fit it".

Immense relief.



--
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foolish, and by the rulers as useful.

(Seneca the Younger, 65 AD)

In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Seems that the front cat (there are two) is blocked so the
exhaust is blowing back into the engine, out though manifold
gaskets, etc. engine management light is on, there is oil and
crap everywhere under the bonnet, and vehicle only
goes up a hill in 1st gear.

That is not an MOT failure
MOT id concerned with safety.
And emissions at the exhaust.
Not emissions from the manifld

Love to know how you could have emissions within tolerance with a blocked
cat. And that's what the engine management light is telling you.

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ,
dennis@home wrote:
On 09/10/2019 16:52, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
dennis@home wrote:
On 09/10/2019 14:23, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Pamela wrote:
Out of interest, why would any back street MOT testing station give a
ceritficate to an unroadworthy car?

Surely it wouldn't ever be worth their while unless it was sweetened
with a backhander?

That's exactly how it works. Mate paid 80 quid for one recently. The
car wasn't unsafe - just had some features which would fail an MOT.


can you post details so it can be reported?

if not then you are also guilty of a crime.

Anecdotal, pet. Same as 99% of the stuff on here.


a lie?

Merely reporting what I was told. And have no reason to think it a lie. If
you are so incensed about it, you can report it to who you want.

--
*And don't start a sentence with a conjunction *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On 10/10/2019 10:44, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Wed, 09 Oct 2019 22:11:56 +0100, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

Andrew wrote:
On 08/10/2019 17:29, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 08/10/2019 15:56, Andrew wrote:
On 08/10/2019 11:17, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
To be fair, I suspect they hadn't done a freelander before and
unless you KNOW that the front coupling is fragile and you have to
tie up the prop shaft before removing the centre bearings and VC
then its an easy mistake to make.

So take it to a LandRover dealer and pay the appropriate labour rate
!.

Er no. Just before I went into hoipsital for my cancer operatin I
made that mistake. They wanted to charge me £1500 for an MOT. I told
them to stop work and give me the car back. I had to threaten them
with the police. Eventually I paid for a bit of work to the handbrake
and took it for a second MOT. It passed.

I then involved an official MOT man who failed it on a couple of
minor things. He had words with the workshop manager.

I then learnt that the same workshop manager who had tried to stiff
me years ago for £3000 quid for a new XJS rear diff when it only
needed a new oil seal, was involved.



Back Street grease-monkey outfits are hit and miss when you have a
non-straight forward vehicle, unless you are certain that they are
specialists in that make of car.


This is not a back street grease moneky outfit. Its a decent firm
that does alot of work for commercial vehicles. I use them because
they have the headroom to get under my camper on a 4 poster.

Many years ago there used to be a Mercedes dealership in a town called
Blackpool - oop north.
I know for a fact that they just sandblasted the spark plugs, filtered
the engine oil and charged the customer for new.



You'll have a job to filter dirty diesel engine oil. How many people in
Blackpool can afford a decent merc. Are these clapped out taxi's ?.

Do diesel engines have spark plugs?

They used to have glow plugs

Stll do.


--
€œThere are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isnt true; the
other is to refuse to believe what is true.€�

€”Soren Kierkegaard

On 10/10/2019 13:57, Jethro_uk wrote:

8

Well our Citroen diesel doesn't have a warning light or a startup
delay ... I thought newer diesels (common rail ?) didn't need them ?


Direct injection probably don't need one as they have high compression
ratios so the air will be hot when the fuel is injected.

On 10/10/2019 11:23, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
dennis@home wrote:
On 09/10/2019 16:52, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
dennis@home wrote:
On 09/10/2019 14:23, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Pamela wrote:
Out of interest, why would any back street MOT testing station give a
ceritficate to an unroadworthy car?

Surely it wouldn't ever be worth their while unless it was sweetened
with a backhander?

That's exactly how it works. Mate paid 80 quid for one recently. The
car wasn't unsafe - just had some features which would fail an MOT.


can you post details so it can be reported?

if not then you are also guilty of a crime.

Anecdotal, pet. Same as 99% of the stuff on here.


a lie?

Merely reporting what I was told. And have no reason to think it a lie. If
you are so incensed about it, you can report it to who you want.


That's why I asked for the details.

You can appeal an MOT pass you know.

On 09/10/2019 22:56, Grik-*******e�� wrote:
On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 15:59:35 +0100, "dennis@home"
wrote:

On 09/10/2019 14:23, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Pamela wrote:
Out of interest, why would any back street MOT testing station give a
ceritficate to an unroadworthy car?

Surely it wouldn't ever be worth their while unless it was sweetened
with a backhander?

That's exactly how it works. Mate paid 80 quid for one recently. The car
wasn't unsafe - just had some features which would fail an MOT.


can you post details so it can be reported?

if not then you are also guilty of a crime.

What are you, some kind of grass?

You would not last long on the inside.


Not a problem, I am not expecting to last much longer outside.
I am already 12 months older than they gave me.

On 10/10/2019 11:21, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Seems that the front cat (there are two) is blocked so the
exhaust is blowing back into the engine, out though manifold
gaskets, etc. engine management light is on, there is oil and
crap everywhere under the bonnet, and vehicle only
goes up a hill in 1st gear.

That is not an MOT failure
MOT id concerned with safety.
And emissions at the exhaust.
Not emissions from the manifld

Love to know how you could have emissions within tolerance with a blocked
cat. And that's what the engine management light is telling you.


Its failed because the light is on.
It doesn't actually matter why its on, it fails if the warning lights do
no behave as though there is no fault.
This usually means they come on when you turn the ignition on and go out
after the car is started and may involve pressing the brake pedal to
check the switch.
This is why a failed warning lamp can be a fail.
I don't know what they do in a car with computer display of faults and
warning lights if they disagree but its probably a fail.

On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 14:44:54 +0100, "dennis@home"
wrote:

On 09/10/2019 22:56, Grik-*******e?? wrote:
On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 15:59:35 +0100, "dennis@home"
wrote:

On 09/10/2019 14:23, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Pamela wrote:
Out of interest, why would any back street MOT testing station give a
ceritficate to an unroadworthy car?

Surely it wouldn't ever be worth their while unless it was sweetened
with a backhander?

That's exactly how it works. Mate paid 80 quid for one recently. The car
wasn't unsafe - just had some features which would fail an MOT.


can you post details so it can be reported?

if not then you are also guilty of a crime.

What are you, some kind of grass?

You would not last long on the inside.


Not a problem, I am not expecting to last much longer outside.
I am already 12 months older than they gave me.

And this is how you want to spend your borrowed time?
By reporting MOTs for unroadworthy cars???

In article ,
Jethro_uk wrote:
On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 11:21:43 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Seems that the front cat (there are two) is blocked so the exhaust
is blowing back into the engine, out though manifold gaskets, etc.
engine management light is on, there is oil and crap everywhere
under the bonnet, and vehicle only goes up a hill in 1st gear.

That is not an MOT failure MOT id concerned with safety. And
emissions at the exhaust. Not emissions from the manifld

Love to know how you could have emissions within tolerance with a
blocked cat. And that's what the engine management light is telling
you.

****ed meter ? I know they're *supposed* to self-calibrate etc etc, but
there's always a new way to fail ...

If it's modern it will have sensors either side of the cat. To make sure
the cat is working.

--
*Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ,
Grik-*******e®™ wrote:
On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 14:44:54 +0100, "dennis@home"
wrote:

On 09/10/2019 22:56, Grik-*******e?? wrote:
On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 15:59:35 +0100, "dennis@home"
wrote:

On 09/10/2019 14:23, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Pamela wrote:
Out of interest, why would any back street MOT testing station
give a ceritficate to an unroadworthy car?

Surely it wouldn't ever be worth their while unless it was
sweetened with a backhander?

That's exactly how it works. Mate paid 80 quid for one recently.
The car wasn't unsafe - just had some features which would fail an
MOT.


can you post details so it can be reported?

if not then you are also guilty of a crime.

What are you, some kind of grass?

You would not last long on the inside.


Not a problem, I am not expecting to last much longer outside.
I am already 12 months older than they gave me.

And this is how you want to spend your borrowed time?
By reporting MOTs for unroadworthy cars???

You'd have to define unroadworthy. You can fail an MOY because the
windscreen washer bottle is empty. Or a sidelight out, when everyone
drives on dipped headlights. Or an iffy handbrake on an auto where it is
never ever used. And so on.

Or a more pertinent one. There are regs about fitting aftermarket HID to
headlights. But not similar for LED.

And of course those famous diesel VWs that had no trouble fooling the
emissions tests at MOT time.

--
*I was once a millionaire but my mom gave away my baseball cards

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 07:22:12 -0700, clinically insane, pedophilic, serbian
bitch Razovic, the resident psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous
sexual cripple, making an ass of herself as "Grik-*******e®™", farted again:


Not a problem, I am not expecting to last much longer outside.
I am already 12 months older than they gave me.

And this is how you want to spend your borrowed time?
By reporting MOTs for unroadworthy cars???

Says, of course, the clinically insane psychopathic perv who has been
"living" on Usenet for OVER TWENTY YEARS, virtually around the clock!

--
Pedophilic dreckserb Razovic arguing in favour of pedophilia, again:
"That [referring to the term "consenting adults"] is just an outdated legal
construct. Are you telling me that a 13-year old who spends 15 hours a day
on Facebook is incapable of consent?"
MID:

On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 15:53:06 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Grik-*******e®™ wrote:
On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 14:44:54 +0100, "dennis@home"
wrote:

On 09/10/2019 22:56, Grik-*******e?? wrote:
On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 15:59:35 +0100, "dennis@home"
wrote:

On 09/10/2019 14:23, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Pamela wrote:
Out of interest, why would any back street MOT testing station
give a ceritficate to an unroadworthy car?

Surely it wouldn't ever be worth their while unless it was
sweetened with a backhander?

That's exactly how it works. Mate paid 80 quid for one recently.
The car wasn't unsafe - just had some features which would fail an
MOT.


can you post details so it can be reported?

if not then you are also guilty of a crime.

What are you, some kind of grass?

You would not last long on the inside.


Not a problem, I am not expecting to last much longer outside.
I am already 12 months older than they gave me.

And this is how you want to spend your borrowed time?
By reporting MOTs for unroadworthy cars???

You'd have to define unroadworthy. You can fail an MOY because the
windscreen washer bottle is empty. Or a sidelight out, when everyone
drives on dipped headlights. Or an iffy handbrake on an auto where it is
never ever used. And so on.

Or a more pertinent one. There are regs about fitting aftermarket HID to
headlights. But not similar for LED.

And of course those famous diesel VWs that had no trouble fooling the
emissions tests at MOT time.

By roadworthy I would define a vehicle in a dangerous condition that
the MOT place shouldn't allow back onto the road...and only a bent MOT
allows it to do so.

On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 09:16:16 -0700, clinically insane, pedophilic, serbian
bitch Razovic, the resident psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous
sexual cripple, making an ass of herself as "Grik-*******e®™", farted again:


By roadworthy I would define

I (like many others) define YOU as not worthy to live, you useless,
perverted, psychopathic swine!

--
Pedophilic dreckserb Razovic arguing in favour of pedophilia, again:
"That [referring to the term "consenting adults"] is just an outdated legal
construct. Are you telling me that a 13-year old who spends 15 hours a day
on Facebook is incapable of consent?"
MID:

In article ,
Jethro_uk wrote:
If it's modern it will have sensors either side of the cat. To make
sure the cat is working.

I was thinking of the machine the MOT station use ...

Think it is a four gas analyser. Rather more sophisticated than the O2
sensors fitted to the exhaust.

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On 10/10/2019 11:53, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 10/10/2019 10:44, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Wed, 09 Oct 2019 22:11:56 +0100, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

Andrew wrote:
On 08/10/2019 17:29, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 08/10/2019 15:56, Andrew wrote:
On 08/10/2019 11:17, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
To be fair, I suspect they hadn't done a freelander before and
unless you KNOW that the front coupling is fragile and you have to
tie up the prop shaft before removing the centre bearings and VC
then its an easy mistake to make.

So take it to a LandRover dealer and pay the appropriate labour rate
!.

Er no. Just before I went into hoipsital for my cancer operatin I
made that mistake. They wanted to charge me £1500 for an MOT. I told
them to stop work and give me the car back.Â* I had to threaten them
with the police. Eventually I paid for a bit of work to the handbrake
and took it for a second MOT. It passed.

I then involved an official MOT man who failed it on a couple of
minor things. He had words with the workshop manager.

I then learnt that the same workshop manager who had tried to stiff
me years ago for £3000 quid for a new XJS rear diff when it only
needed a new oil seal, was involved.



Back Street grease-monkey outfits are hit and miss when you have a
non-straight forward vehicle, unless you are certain that they are
specialists in that make of car.


This is not a back street grease moneky outfit. Its a decent firm
that doesÂ* alot of work for commercial vehicles. I use them because
they have the headroom to get under my camper on a 4 poster.

Many years ago there used to be a Mercedes dealership in a town called
Blackpool - oop north.
I know for a fact that they just sandblasted the spark plugs, filtered
the engine oil and charged the customer for new.



You'll have a job to filter dirty diesel engine oil. How many people in
Blackpool can afford a decent merc. Are these clapped out taxi's ?.

Do diesel engines have spark plugs?

They used to have glow plugs

Stll do.




And can be horribly expensive to replace when they go wrong.

On 10/10/2019 15:53, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Or an iffy handbrake on an auto where it is
never ever used. And so on.

even some surface corrosion where just the paint has
gone, but if it 'near' a suspension mounting point,
some zealous MOT testers will fail it.

On 09/10/2019 16:57, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 09/10/2019 13:20, Andrew wrote:
On 08/10/2019 16:47, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Eventually I paid for a bit of work to the handbrake and took it for
a second MOT. It passed.

Ex-MOT tester neighnour has been looking at an exhaust problem
with the butchers ageing Nissan 4x4.

Seems that the front cat (there are two) is blocked so the
exhaust is blowing back into the engine, out though manifold
gaskets, etc. engine management light is on, there is oil and
crap everywhere under the bonnet,Â* and vehicle only
goes up a hill in 1st gear.

That is not an MOT failure

Engine management light was on. Automatic falure.

MOT id concerned with safety.
And emissions at the exhaust.
Not emissions from the manifld

Back street MOT place near Amberley gave it a new MOT certificate,
no questions asked, so he could tax it and carry on using it until
it had a new front exhaust.

Never trust any MOT. They might show the mileage and available
to inspect online but there are still plenty of dodgy places who
will issue a clean MOT for a 'favour'.

Indeed, but again the genuine MOT inspector confirmed that the car was
safe to drive excopt for the state of two tyres - these he reckoned were
cut endough to see the steel belting.

Ther were, just, if you took a magnifying glass to them.

On 2019-10-10 11:45 a.m., Andrew wrote:
On 10/10/2019 11:53, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 10/10/2019 10:44, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Wed, 09 Oct 2019 22:11:56 +0100, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

Andrew wrote:
On 08/10/2019 17:29, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 08/10/2019 15:56, Andrew wrote:
On 08/10/2019 11:17, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
To be fair, I suspect they hadn't done a freelander before and
unless you KNOW that the front coupling is fragile and you have to
tie up the prop shaft before removing the centre bearings and VC
then its an easy mistake to make.

So take it to a LandRover dealer and pay the appropriate labour
rate
!.

Er no. Just before I went into hoipsital for my cancer operatin I
made that mistake. They wanted to charge me £1500 for an MOT. I told
them to stop work and give me the car back.Â* I had to threaten them
with the police. Eventually I paid for a bit of work to the
handbrake
and took it for a second MOT. It passed.

I then involved an official MOT man who failed it on a couple of
minor things. He had words with the workshop manager.

I then learnt that the same workshop manager who had tried to stiff
me years ago for £3000 quid for a new XJS rear diff when it only
needed a new oil seal, was involved.



Back Street grease-monkey outfits are hit and miss when you have a
non-straight forward vehicle, unless you are certain that they are
specialists in that make of car.


This is not a back street grease moneky outfit. Its a decent firm
that doesÂ* alot of work for commercial vehicles. I use them because
they have the headroom to get under my camper on a 4 poster.

Many years ago there used to be a Mercedes dealership in a town
called
Blackpool - oop north.
I know for a fact that they just sandblasted the spark plugs,
filtered
the engine oil and charged the customer for new.



You'll have a job to filter dirty diesel engine oil. How many
people in
Blackpool can afford a decent merc. Are these clapped out taxi's ?.

Do diesel engines have spark plugs?

They used to have glow plugs

Stll do.




And can be horribly expensive to replace when they go wrong.

oh , is money an issue for you

"dennis@home" wrote in message
...
On 09/10/2019 22:56, Grik-*******e�� wrote:
On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 15:59:35 +0100, "dennis@home"
wrote:

On 09/10/2019 14:23, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Pamela wrote:
Out of interest, why would any back street MOT testing station give a
ceritficate to an unroadworthy car?

Surely it wouldn't ever be worth their while unless it was sweetened
with a backhander?

That's exactly how it works. Mate paid 80 quid for one recently. The
car
wasn't unsafe - just had some features which would fail an MOT.


can you post details so it can be reported?

if not then you are also guilty of a crime.

What are you, some kind of grass?

You would not last long on the inside.

Not a problem, I am not expecting to last much longer outside.I am already
12 months older than they gave me.

And are costing us a fortune keeping you alive.

On 2019-10-10 11:53 a.m., Rod Speed wrote:


"dennis@home" wrote in message
...
On 09/10/2019 22:56, Grik-*******e�� wrote:
On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 15:59:35 +0100, "dennis@home"
wrote:

On 09/10/2019 14:23, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Â*Â*Â*Â* Pamela wrote:
Out of interest, why would any back street MOT testing station give a
ceritficate to an unroadworthy car?

Surely it wouldn't ever be worth their while unless it was sweetened
with a backhander?

That's exactly how it works. Mate paid 80 quid for one recently.
The car
wasn't unsafe - just had some features which would fail an MOT.


can you post details so it can be reported?

if not then you are also guilty of a crime.

What are you, some kind of grass?

You would not last long on the inside.

Not a problem, I am not expecting to last much longer outside.I am
already 12 months older than they gave me.

And are costing us a fortune keeping you alive.

i've got almost 3 years after they gave me 6 months

On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 05:53:45 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

Not a problem, I am not expecting to last much longer outside.I am already
12 months older than they gave me.

And are costing us a fortune keeping you alive.

Stop projecting, you abnormal 85-year-old trolling senile pest!

--
Website (from 2007) dedicated to the 85-year-old trolling senile
cretin from Oz:
https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/

On 10/10/2019 19:51, % wrote:
On 2019-10-10 11:45 a.m., Andrew wrote:
On 10/10/2019 11:53, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 10/10/2019 10:44, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Wed, 09 Oct 2019 22:11:56 +0100, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

Andrew wrote:
On 08/10/2019 17:29, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 08/10/2019 15:56, Andrew wrote:
On 08/10/2019 11:17, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
To be fair, I suspect they hadn't done a freelander before and
unless you KNOW that the front coupling is fragile and you
have to
tie up the prop shaft before removing the centre bearings and VC
then its an easy mistake to make.

So take it to a LandRover dealer and pay the appropriate labour
rate
!.

Er no. Just before I went into hoipsital for my cancer operatin I
made that mistake. They wanted to charge me £1500 for an MOT. I
told
them to stop work and give me the car back.Â* I had to threaten them
with the police. Eventually I paid for a bit of work to the
handbrake
and took it for a second MOT. It passed.

I then involved an official MOT man who failed it on a couple of
minor things. He had words with the workshop manager.

I then learnt that the same workshop manager who had tried to stiff
me years ago for £3000 quid for a new XJS rear diff when it only
needed a new oil seal, was involved.



Back Street grease-monkey outfits are hit and miss when you have a
non-straight forward vehicle, unless you are certain that they are
specialists in that make of car.


This is not a back street grease moneky outfit. Its a decent firm
that doesÂ* alot of work for commercial vehicles. I use them because
they have the headroom to get under my camper on a 4 poster.

Many years ago there used to be a Mercedes dealership in a town
called
Blackpool - oop north.
I know for a fact that they just sandblasted the spark plugs,
filtered
the engine oil and charged the customer for new.



You'll have a job to filter dirty diesel engine oil. How many
people in
Blackpool can afford a decent merc. Are these clapped out taxi's ?.

Do diesel engines have spark plugs?

They used to have glow plugs

Stll do.




And can be horribly expensive to replace when they go wrong.

oh , is money an issue for you

No, only cheapskates drive diesel cars, to save money on road tax.

Then they wonder why they have to pay out huge bills for replacement
DPF parts.

On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 12:03:06 -0700, % wrote:

On 2019-10-10 11:53 a.m., Rod Speed wrote:


"dennis@home" wrote in message
...
On 09/10/2019 22:56, Grik-*******e?? wrote:
On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 15:59:35 +0100, "dennis@home"
wrote:

On 09/10/2019 14:23, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
**** Pamela wrote:
Out of interest, why would any back street MOT testing station give a
ceritficate to an unroadworthy car?

Surely it wouldn't ever be worth their while unless it was sweetened
with a backhander?

That's exactly how it works. Mate paid 80 quid for one recently.
The car
wasn't unsafe - just had some features which would fail an MOT.


can you post details so it can be reported?

if not then you are also guilty of a crime.

What are you, some kind of grass?

You would not last long on the inside.

Not a problem, I am not expecting to last much longer outside.I am
already 12 months older than they gave me.

And are costing us a fortune keeping you alive.

i've got almost 3 years after they gave me 6 months

Die NOW and prove them wrong.

On 2019-10-10 12:16 p.m., Andrew wrote:
On 10/10/2019 19:51, % wrote:
On 2019-10-10 11:45 a.m., Andrew wrote:
On 10/10/2019 11:53, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 10/10/2019 10:44, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Wed, 09 Oct 2019 22:11:56 +0100, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

Andrew wrote:
On 08/10/2019 17:29, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 08/10/2019 15:56, Andrew wrote:
On 08/10/2019 11:17, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
To be fair, I suspect they hadn't done a freelander before and
unless you KNOW that the front coupling is fragile and you
have to
tie up the prop shaft before removing the centre bearings and VC
then its an easy mistake to make.

So take it to a LandRover dealer and pay the appropriate
labour rate
!.

Er no. Just before I went into hoipsital for my cancer operatin I
made that mistake. They wanted to charge me £1500 for an MOT. I
told
them to stop work and give me the car back.Â* I had to threaten
them
with the police. Eventually I paid for a bit of work to the
handbrake
and took it for a second MOT. It passed.

I then involved an official MOT man who failed it on a couple of
minor things. He had words with the workshop manager.

I then learnt that the same workshop manager who had tried to
stiff
me years ago for £3000 quid for a new XJS rear diff when it only
needed a new oil seal, was involved.



Back Street grease-monkey outfits are hit and miss when you
have a
non-straight forward vehicle, unless you are certain that they
are
specialists in that make of car.


This is not a back street grease moneky outfit. Its a decent firm
that doesÂ* alot of work for commercial vehicles. I use them
because
they have the headroom to get under my camper on a 4 poster.

Many years ago there used to be a Mercedes dealership in a town
called
Blackpool - oop north.
I know for a fact that they just sandblasted the spark plugs,
filtered
the engine oil and charged the customer for new.



You'll have a job to filter dirty diesel engine oil. How many
people in
Blackpool can afford a decent merc. Are these clapped out taxi's ?.

Do diesel engines have spark plugs?

They used to have glow plugs

Stll do.




And can be horribly expensive to replace when they go wrong.

oh , is money an issue for you

No, only cheapskates drive diesel cars, to save money on road tax.

Then they wonder why they have to pay out huge bills for replacement
DPF parts.

no , if they're driving cars like that they don't even see a bill ever ,
they just have open access to their bank account

On 2019-10-10 12:27 p.m., just-a-goy wrote:
On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 12:03:06 -0700, % wrote:

On 2019-10-10 11:53 a.m., Rod Speed wrote:


"dennis@home" wrote in message
...
On 09/10/2019 22:56, Grik-*******e?? wrote:
On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 15:59:35 +0100, "dennis@home"
wrote:

On 09/10/2019 14:23, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Â*Â*Â*Â* Pamela wrote:
Out of interest, why would any back street MOT testing station give a
ceritficate to an unroadworthy car?

Surely it wouldn't ever be worth their while unless it was sweetened
with a backhander?

That's exactly how it works. Mate paid 80 quid for one recently.
The car
wasn't unsafe - just had some features which would fail an MOT.


can you post details so it can be reported?

if not then you are also guilty of a crime.

What are you, some kind of grass?

You would not last long on the inside.

Not a problem, I am not expecting to last much longer outside.I am
already 12 months older than they gave me.

And are costing us a fortune keeping you alive.

i've got almost 3 years after they gave me 6 months

Die NOW and prove them wrong.

i don't take advice from usenet so , no

On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 12:27:16 -0700, clinically insane, pedophilic, serbian
bitch Razovic, the resident psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous
sexual cripple, making an ass of herself as "just-a-goy", farted again:


i've got almost 3 years after they gave me 6 months

Die NOW and prove them wrong.

YOU die NOW and rid the world of your psychopathic STENCH, pedophilic gay
Razovic!

--
Pedophilic dreckserb Razovic answering a question whether there
is any meaningful debate to lower the age of consent:
"If there isn't, there should be."
MID:

"%" wrote in message
...
On 2019-10-10 11:53 a.m., Rod Speed wrote:


"dennis@home" wrote in message
...
On 09/10/2019 22:56, Grik-*******e�� wrote:
On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 15:59:35 +0100, "dennis@home"
wrote:

On 09/10/2019 14:23, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Pamela wrote:
Out of interest, why would any back street MOT testing station give
a
ceritficate to an unroadworthy car?

Surely it wouldn't ever be worth their while unless it was sweetened
with a backhander?

That's exactly how it works. Mate paid 80 quid for one recently. The
car
wasn't unsafe - just had some features which would fail an MOT.


can you post details so it can be reported?

if not then you are also guilty of a crime.

What are you, some kind of grass?

You would not last long on the inside.

Not a problem, I am not expecting to last much longer outside.I am
already 12 months older than they gave me.

And are costing us a fortune keeping you alive.

i've got almost 3 years after they gave me 6 months

Bugger.

On 2019-10-10 12:44 p.m., Rod Speed wrote:


"%" wrote in message
...
On 2019-10-10 11:53 a.m., Rod Speed wrote:


"dennis@home" wrote in message
...
On 09/10/2019 22:56, Grik-*******e�� wrote:
On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 15:59:35 +0100, "dennis@home"
wrote:

On 09/10/2019 14:23, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Â*Â*Â*Â* Pamela wrote:
Out of interest, why would any back street MOT testing station
give a
ceritficate to an unroadworthy car?

Surely it wouldn't ever be worth their while unless it was
sweetened
with a backhander?

That's exactly how it works. Mate paid 80 quid for one recently.
The car
wasn't unsafe - just had some features which would fail an MOT.


can you post details so it can be reported?

if not then you are also guilty of a crime.

What are you, some kind of grass?

You would not last long on the inside.

Not a problem, I am not expecting to last much longer outside.I am
already 12 months older than they gave me.

And are costing us a fortune keeping you alive.

i've got almost 3 years after they gave me 6 months

Bugger.

i don't listen well , tinitus from rock n roll

On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 06:44:18 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


i've got almost 3 years after they gave me 6 months

Bugger.

I said, stop projecting, you useless 85-year-old senile pest!

--
Website (from 2007) dedicated to the 85-year-old trolling senile
cretin from Oz:
https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/

On 10/10/2019 15:22, Grik-*******e�� wrote:


And this is how you want to spend your borrowed time?
By reporting MOTs for unroadworthy cars???


you might like the *******s driving around but I don't!
are you one of the*******s so stick up for them?
you have the right nym.

On 10/10/2019 19:53, Rod Speed wrote:



Not a problem, I am not expecting to last much longer outside.I am
already 12 months older than they gave me.

And are costing us a fortune keeping you alive.

sod of rod, are you now admitting you are based in the UK and pretending
to be an aussie as I have always suspected?

On 10/10/2019 19:07, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Jethro_uk wrote:
If it's modern it will have sensors either side of the cat. To make
sure the cat is working.

I was thinking of the machine the MOT station use ...

Think it is a four gas analyser. Rather more sophisticated than the O2
sensors fitted to the exhaust.


Not much use if the MOT tester is dodgy.
Still waiting for the details so the dodgy tester can be struck off.
Doing so could get hundreds of unroadworthy cars off the roads and save
many lives.

"dennis@home" wrote in message
...
On 10/10/2019 19:53, Rod Speed wrote:



Not a problem, I am not expecting to last much longer outside.I am
already 12 months older than they gave me.

And are costing us a fortune keeping you alive.

sod of rod,

Its you poms into sodding...

On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 09:45:53 +0100, "dennis@home"
wrote:

On 10/10/2019 15:22, Grik-*******e?? wrote:


And this is how you want to spend your borrowed time?
By reporting MOTs for unroadworthy cars???


you might like the *******s driving around but I don't!

Who cares what you like? You'll be dead soon.

are you one of the*******s so stick up for them?
you have the right nym.

Apparently so. Until I change it again.

On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 06:29:44 -0700, clinically insane, pedophilic, serbian
bitch Razovic, the resident psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous
sexual cripple, making an ass of herself as "Grik-*******e®™", farted again:


you might like the *******s driving around but I don't!

Who cares what you like?

Decent people care, psychopathic swine!

You'll be dead soon.

You WISH, psychopath!

are you one of the*******s so stick up for them?
you have the right nym.

Apparently so. Until I change it again.

It's a FACT: even your nyms, like everything else from you, reveal that you
are a clinically insane, psychopathic swine, dreckserb Razovic!

--
Pedophilic dreckserb Razovic arguing in favour of pedophilia, again:
"That [referring to the term "consenting adults"] is just an outdated legal
construct. Are you telling me that a 13-year old who spends 15 hours a day
on Facebook is incapable of consent?"
MID: