So, Boris calls an election and everyone goes home again.
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On 24 Sep 2019 10:02:27 GMT, Stephen Cole
wrote:

Supreme LOL, more like.

Bercow's demanding Parliament meet ASAP, PMQs tomorrow? :-D

The ****'s really hit the fan here. Quite remarkable scenes.

bliar et al have deliberately and heavily undermined the rule of law..

these are natural consequences

but what next?

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On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 16:03:14 +0100, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

So, Boris calls an election and everyone goes home again.
Brian

it will be blocked by fnl

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On 2019-09-24, abelard wrote:
On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 16:03:14 +0100, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

So, Boris calls an election and everyone goes home again.
Brian

it will be blocked by fnl

It's a shame they'd do that given all the revolutionary policies they are so
eager to impose.

On 24/09/2019 16:03, Brian Gaff wrote:
So, Boris calls an election and everyone goes home again.
Brian

The MPs won't let him call an election, despite the government having no
majority and being hemmed in on all sides by those same MPs and unable
to do anything.

They daren't allow an election, because it seems likely that Boris would
be returned with a majority.

Oh so democratic aren't they, making sure that they get to remain, even
though the people voted to leave, before the people are allowed to elect
a new government.

SteveW

In article ,
Steve Walker wrote:
They daren't allow an election, because it seems likely that Boris would
be returned with a majority.

Don't be silly. If there were an election tomorrow, none would have an
absolute majority. Why this parliament won't allow one, until Brexit is
sorted.

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On 24/09/2019 16:49, Steve Walker wrote:
On 24/09/2019 16:03, Brian Gaff wrote:
So, Boris calls an election and everyone goes home again.
Â* Brian

The MPs won't let him call an election, despite the government having no
majority and being hemmed in on all sides by those same MPs and unable
to do anything.

And that's the true affront to democracy, greater even than shutting
down Parliament for just 4 or 5 days more than it would have been anyway.

It is absurd that Parliament, and in particular the Labour Party, is
using the Fixed-term Parliaments Act for purposes for which it was
clearly not intended when it was passed. It was never anticipated that
an opposition would ever support a lame duck government in office,
knowing full well that it is not in the country's interests to have a
non-functioning executive.

Labour should be ashamed that it puts its own self-interests before
those of the country.

They daren't allow an election, because it seems likely that Boris would
be returned with a majority.

Oh so democratic aren't they, making sure that they get to remain, even
though the people voted to leave, before the people are allowed to elect
a new government.

They're playing shabby games, showing that they're running ****-scared
of the electorate.

On 24/09/2019 18:38, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Steve Walker wrote:
They daren't allow an election, because it seems likely that Boris would
be returned with a majority.

Don't be silly. If there were an election tomorrow, none would have an
absolute majority. Why this parliament won't allow one, until Brexit is
sorted.

And what exactly is your basis for saying that?

Do you have a reliable reference from someone with a functioning crystal
ball?

In message , Norman Wells
writes
On 24/09/2019 18:38, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Steve Walker wrote:
They daren't allow an election, because it seems likely that Boris would
be returned with a majority.
Don't be silly. If there were an election tomorrow, none would have
an
absolute majority. Why this parliament won't allow one, until Brexit is
sorted.

And what exactly is your basis for saying that?

Do you have a reliable reference from someone with a functioning
crystal ball?

Hasn't Corbyn today said that he wants a general election as soon as
possible after Johnson has sorted out the mess he has created, and when
there is no longer a threat of us having to leave the EU on 31 October?
--
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On 24/09/2019 19:47, Ian Jackson wrote:
Hasn't Corbyn today said that he wants a general election as soon as
possible after Johnson has sorted out the mess he has created, and when
there is no longer a threat of us having to leave the EU on 31 October?

Is there anything Corbyn *hasnt* said?


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On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 20:12:44 +0100
The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 24/09/2019 19:47, Ian Jackson wrote:
Hasn't Corbyn today said that he wants a general election as soon
as possible after Johnson has sorted out the mess he has created,
and when there is no longer a threat of us having to leave the EU
on 31 October?

Is there anything Corbyn *hasnt* said?



He didn't tell the Queen to unlawfully prorogue parliament.

On 24/09/2019 19:47, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Norman Wells
writes
On 24/09/2019 18:38, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Â*Â*Â* Steve Walker wrote:
They daren't allow an election, because it seems likely that Boris
would
be returned with a majority.
Â*Don't be silly. If there were an election tomorrow, none would have an
absolute majority. Why this parliament won't allow one, until Brexit is
sorted.

And what exactly is your basis for saying that?

Do you have a reliable reference from someone with a functioning
crystal ball?

Hasn't Corbyn today said that he wants a general election as soon as
possible after Johnson has sorted out the mess he has created, and when
there is no longer a threat of us having to leave the EU on 31 October?

He's just playing games at a serious time.

Would you like to address the question now?

On 24/09/2019 16:49, Steve Walker wrote:
On 24/09/2019 16:03, Brian Gaff wrote:
So, Boris calls an election and everyone goes home again.
Â* Brian

The MPs won't let him call an election, despite the government having no
majority and being hemmed in on all sides by those same MPs and unable
to do anything.

They daren't allow an election, because it seems likely that Boris would
be returned with a majority.

Oh so democratic aren't they, making sure that they get to remain, even
though the people voted to leave, before the people are allowed to elect
a new government.

SteveW

rubbish, calling an election now will be the same as proroguing parliament.

they said they will call an election if boris asks for a delay on brexit.

boris is too scared to do so.

On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 21:57:17 +0100, "dennis@home"
wrote:

On 24/09/2019 16:49, Steve Walker wrote:
On 24/09/2019 16:03, Brian Gaff wrote:
So, Boris calls an election and everyone goes home again.
* Brian

The MPs won't let him call an election, despite the government having no
majority and being hemmed in on all sides by those same MPs and unable
to do anything.

They daren't allow an election, because it seems likely that Boris would
be returned with a majority.

Oh so democratic aren't they, making sure that they get to remain, even
though the people voted to leave, before the people are allowed to elect
a new government.

SteveW

rubbish, calling an election now will be the same as proroguing parliament.

they said they will call an election if boris asks for a delay on brexit.

boris is too scared to do so.

why would he break his word...after all, he isn't a socialist

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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Steve Walker wrote:
They daren't allow an election, because it seems likely that Boris would
be returned with a majority.

Don't be silly. If there were an election tomorrow, none would have an
absolute majority. Why this parliament won't allow one, until Brexit is
sorted.


Corbyn is scared:

Leave 17.4m | Remain 16.1m
By Constituency:
Leave 406 | Remain 242
By Constituency Party:
Labour - Leave 148 | Remain 84
Conservatives - Leave 247 | Remain 80
By Region:
Leave 9 | Remain 3
By MP:
Leave 160 | Remain 486

Brian Gaff wrote

So, Boris calls an election

He cant. Only 2/3 of the parliament can do that now.

and everyone goes home again.

"abelard" wrote in message
...
On 24 Sep 2019 10:02:27 GMT, Stephen Cole
wrote:

Supreme LOL, more like.

Bercow's demanding Parliament meet ASAP, PMQs tomorrow? :-D

The ****'s really hit the fan here. Quite remarkable scenes.

bliar et al have deliberately and heavily undermined the rule of law..

these are natural consequences

but what next?

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"Norman Wells" wrote in message
...
On 24/09/2019 18:38, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Steve Walker wrote:
They daren't allow an election, because it seems likely that Boris would
be returned with a majority.

Don't be silly. If there were an election tomorrow, none would have an
absolute majority. Why this parliament won't allow one, until Brexit is
sorted.

And what exactly is your basis for saying that?

The polls. Corse we know that the polls are a
lousy indicator of what a general election would
produce from the result May got with hers.

It is a likely result tho given how divisive brexit currently is.

"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
...
In message , Norman Wells
writes
On 24/09/2019 18:38, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Steve Walker wrote:
They daren't allow an election, because it seems likely that Boris
would
be returned with a majority.
Don't be silly. If there were an election tomorrow, none would have an
absolute majority. Why this parliament won't allow one, until Brexit is
sorted.

And what exactly is your basis for saying that?

Do you have a reliable reference from someone with a functioning crystal
ball?

Hasn't Corbyn today said that he wants a general election as soon as
possible after Johnson has sorted out the mess he has created, and when
there is no longer a threat of us having to leave the EU on 31 October?

But it remains to be seen if that is anything more than just more Corbyn
bull****.

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
On 24/09/2019 19:47, Ian Jackson wrote:
Hasn't Corbyn today said that he wants a general election as soon as
possible after Johnson has sorted out the mess he has created, and when
there is no longer a threat of us having to leave the EU on 31 October?

Is there anything Corbyn *hasnt* said?

Yep, that the sun shines out of Boris's arse.

"dennis@home" wrote in message
...
On 24/09/2019 16:49, Steve Walker wrote:
On 24/09/2019 16:03, Brian Gaff wrote:
So, Boris calls an election and everyone goes home again.
Brian

The MPs won't let him call an election, despite the government having no
majority and being hemmed in on all sides by those same MPs and unable to
do anything.

They daren't allow an election, because it seems likely that Boris would
be returned with a majority.

Oh so democratic aren't they, making sure that they get to remain, even
though the people voted to leave, before the people are allowed to elect
a new government.

SteveW

rubbish, calling an election now will be the same as proroguing
parliament.

they said they will call an election if boris asks for a delay on brexit.

boris is too scared to do so.

Nothing to do with fear, he knows there is no point in endless extensions
which change nothing.

On 24/09/2019 20:40, Jim wrote:
On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 20:12:44 +0100
The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 24/09/2019 19:47, Ian Jackson wrote:
Hasn't Corbyn today said that he wants a general election as soon
as possible after Johnson has sorted out the mess he has created,
and when there is no longer a threat of us having to leave the EU
on 31 October?

Is there anything Corbyn *hasnt* said?



He didn't tell the Queen to unlawfully prorogue parliament.

Prove it


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and understanding".

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Roger wrote:
On Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 7:42:35 PM UTC+2, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Don't be silly. If there were an election tomorrow, none would have an
absolute majority. Why this parliament won't allow one, until Brexit is
sorted.

--

An election launched now would still have a new government in place before the deadline;

I dont think thats correct. Im sure Ive read recently that, due to
logistics involved in legislating for and arranging an election, and also a
minimum (25 working day??) campaign period, an October election ceased
being a possibility a week or so ago, during the time that Parliament was
supposedly prorogued. BoJo quite badly shot himself in the foot over it;
apparently his and Doms presumption was that Corbyn would jump at the
chance for an early election and didnt consider that he would refuse it.
By the time the penny dropped, it was too late to walk back on prorogation.


even more so if the had done it when Boris requested.

Likewise parliament could have thrown the government out straight away,
as they were planning to do in the week before parliament reopened.

Anybody who thinks labour are acting in some sort of virtuous manner to
save the nation needs a good dose of political realism. It's nothing more
than a political power game, and the rest of the country are footing the bill.


Labour are doing what Labour should be doing; destroying their enemy.

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On 25/09/2019 05:04, Rod Speed wrote:


"Norman Wells" wrote in message
...
On 24/09/2019 18:38, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Â*Â*Â* Steve Walker wrote:
They daren't allow an election, because it seems likely that Boris
would
be returned with a majority.

Don't be silly. If there were an election tomorrow, none would have an
absolute majority. Why this parliament won't allow one, until Brexit is
sorted.

And what exactly is your basis for saying that?

The polls. Corse we know that the polls are a
lousy indicator of what a general election would
produce from the result May got with hers.

It is a likely result tho given how divisive brexit currently is.

Only in your own mind.

Got a reliable reference from anywhere else?

On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 14:19:49 +1000, jeikppkywk, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:


Is there anything Corbyn *hasnt* said?

Yep, that the sun shines out of Boris's arse.

Oh, PLEASE, spare everyone your lame attempts at senile "humour", you
****ing stupid trolling senile pest! tsk

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"MID: .com"

On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 14:15:13 +1000, jeikppkywk, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:

Hasn't Corbyn today said that he wants a general election as soon as
possible after Johnson has sorted out the mess he has created, and when
there is no longer a threat of us having to leave the EU on 31 October?

But it remains to be seen if that is anything more than just more Corbyn
bull****.

Or your "posts" being anything more than troll****, senile Rodent!

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On 25/09/2019 07:31, Stephen Cole wrote:
Roger wrote:

Anybody who thinks labour are acting in some sort of virtuous manner to
save the nation needs a good dose of political realism. It's nothing more
than a political power game, and the rest of the country are footing the bill.


Labour are doing what Labour should be doing; destroying their enemy.

The idea, I thought, of an opposition was that it should be a
government-in-waiting, champing at the bit to get into power and do
better than the other lot.

What does it say about Labour that it is scared stiff of an election
which is the only way that could do that?

It's an utterly bizarre situation where the opposition is seemingly
unprepared to govern, unwilling to take over, and so lacking in
confidence in itself that it won't even try.

On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 14:04:35 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

Don't be silly. If there were an election tomorrow, none would have an
absolute majority. Why this parliament won't allow one, until Brexit is
sorted.

And what exactly is your basis for saying that?

The polls. Corse we know

"We", again? Why do you forsaken psychopaths always hide behind that "we"?
NOBODY, but NOBODY identifies with you scum ...and you KNOW it!

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MID:

On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 14:32:18 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


rubbish, calling an election now will be the same as proroguing
parliament.

they said they will call an election if boris asks for a delay on brexit.

boris is too scared to do so.

Nothing to do with fear

**** off from normally evolved humans' ngs, you abnormal 85-year-old
trolling senile pest from Oz!

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and totally irresponsible talk. Your mouth could get you into a lot of
trouble."
Message-ID:

On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 12:22:20 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


So, Boris calls an election

He cant. Only 2/3 of the parliament can do that now.

Cannot someone just squash this pesky endlessly buzzing senile bluebottle
from Oz?

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"Ah, the voice of scum speaks."
MID:

"Stephen Cole" wrote in message
...
Roger wrote:
On Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 7:42:35 PM UTC+2, Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:

Don't be silly. If there were an election tomorrow, none would have an
absolute majority. Why this parliament won't allow one, until Brexit is
sorted.

--

An election launched now would still have a new government in place
before the deadline;

I dont think thats correct. Im sure Ive read recently that, due to
logistics involved in legislating for and arranging an election, and also
a
minimum (25 working day??) campaign period, an October election ceased
being a possibility a week or so ago, during the time that Parliament was
supposedly prorogued. BoJo quite badly shot himself in the foot over it;
apparently his and Doms presumption was that Corbyn would jump at the
chance for an early election and didnt consider that he would refuse it.
By the time the penny dropped, it was too late to walk back on
prorogation.


even more so if the had done it when Boris requested.

Likewise parliament could have thrown the government out straight away,
as they were planning to do in the week before parliament reopened.

Anybody who thinks labour are acting in some sort of virtuous manner to
save the nation needs a good dose of political realism. It's nothing more
than a political power game, and the rest of the country are footing the
bill.


Labour are doing what Labour should be doing; destroying their enemy.

They havent in fact destroyed anyone except themselves.

"Norman Wells" wrote in message
...
On 25/09/2019 05:04, Rod Speed wrote:


"Norman Wells" wrote in message
...
On 24/09/2019 18:38, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Steve Walker wrote:
They daren't allow an election, because it seems likely that Boris
would
be returned with a majority.

Don't be silly. If there were an election tomorrow, none would have an
absolute majority. Why this parliament won't allow one, until Brexit is
sorted.

And what exactly is your basis for saying that?

The polls. Corse we know that the polls are a
lousy indicator of what a general election would
produce from the result May got with hers.

It is a likely result tho given how divisive brexit currently is.

Only in your own mind.

Nope.

Got a reliable reference from anywhere else?

Thats the only viable reference without a general election happening.

On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 19:09:38 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:



Only in your own mind.

Nope.

Do you get some sort of tiny senile climax, every time you type that word,
you abnormal senile pest from Oz?

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Message-ID:

On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 19:02:27 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


Labour are doing what Labour should be doing; destroying their enemy.

They havent in fact destroyed anyone except themselves.

LOL Auto-contradicting senile asshole!

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MID:

On 25/09/2019 10:09, Rod Speed wrote:


"Norman Wells" wrote in message
...
On 25/09/2019 05:04, Rod Speed wrote:


"Norman Wells" wrote in message
...
On 24/09/2019 18:38, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Â*Â*Â* Steve Walker wrote:
They daren't allow an election, because it seems likely that Boris
would
be returned with a majority.

Don't be silly. If there were an election tomorrow, none would have an
absolute majority. Why this parliament won't allow one, until
Brexit is
sorted.

And what exactly is your basis for saying that?

The polls. Corse we know that the polls are a
lousy indicator of what a general election would
produce from the result May got with hers.

It is a likely result tho given how divisive brexit currently is.

Only in your own mind.

Nope.

Got a reliable reference from anywhere else?

Thats the only viable reference without a general election happening.

So, you can't back up what you say.

Thought that would be the case.

"Norman Wells" wrote in message
...
On 25/09/2019 10:09, Rod Speed wrote:


"Norman Wells" wrote in message
...
On 25/09/2019 05:04, Rod Speed wrote:


"Norman Wells" wrote in message
...
On 24/09/2019 18:38, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Steve Walker wrote:
They daren't allow an election, because it seems likely that Boris
would
be returned with a majority.

Don't be silly. If there were an election tomorrow, none would have
an
absolute majority. Why this parliament won't allow one, until Brexit
is
sorted.

And what exactly is your basis for saying that?

The polls. Corse we know that the polls are a
lousy indicator of what a general election would
produce from the result May got with hers.

It is a likely result tho given how divisive brexit currently is.

Only in your own mind.

Nope.

Got a reliable reference from anywhere else?

Thats the only viable reference without a general election happening.

So, you can't back up what you say.

Like I said, it isnt even possible.

On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 20:19:32 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


So, you can't back up what you say.

Like I said, it isnt even possible.

IOW, you ARE a bull****ting senile troll!

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"You on the other hand are a heavyweight bull****ter who demonstrates
your particular prowess at it every day."
MID:

On 25/09/2019 08:50, Norman Wells wrote:
On 25/09/2019 07:31, Stephen Cole wrote:
Roger wrote:

Anybody who thinks labour are acting in some sort of virtuous manner to
save the nation needs a good dose of political realism. It's nothing
more
than a political power game, and the rest of the country are footing
the bill.


Labour are doing what Labour should be doing; destroying their enemy.

They were lucky that the Supreme Court decision drove their dual civil
wars over Tom Watson and Brexit off the front pages of the newspapers.

The idea, I thought, of an opposition was that it should be a
government-in-waiting, champing at the bit to get into power and do
better than the other lot.

What does it say about Labour that it is scared stiff of an election
which is the only way that could do that?

They are being both tactical and strategic at the moment. They have
Boris stuck in mid-air on a zip wire and can poke him with sharp sticks
as they like. I suspect he is headed for the record books as shortest
ever serving Prime Minister. It was a pity that Corbyn didn't do it on
day one which would then have set a record that could never be broken.

Allowing the clock to wind down works for both sides at the moment.

It's an utterly bizarre situation where the opposition is seemingly
unprepared to govern, unwilling to take over, and so lacking in
confidence in itself that it won't even try.

They are smart enough not to fall into the trap of executing a vote of
no confidence and then having Boris set a date for the election after
his disastrous hard Brexit has been forced through.

We already know conclusively that Boris has scant regard for the truth.
He has previously been dismissed from a ministerial post for lying.

Remind me what voting majority does he have in the house now?

We live in interesting times (Chinese usage). At least the Americans
have the option of impeaching their Liar in Chief to get rid of him.

How many more decent Tory MPs will have to defect or be thrown out
before the rest of parliament has a working majority. Both Labour and
Tory party are racing towards hard line zealot positions at opposite
ends of the political spectrum. It opens up a big gap in the middle
ground where sensible policies might be found. I wish the LibDems luck.

The Brexit party will steal votes from both Labour and Tory in the next
general election. It will almost certainly be a hung parliament again.

Be careful what you wish for.

--
Regards,
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In article ,
Martin Brown wrote:
It's an utterly bizarre situation where the opposition is seemingly
unprepared to govern, unwilling to take over, and so lacking in
confidence in itself that it won't even try.

They are smart enough not to fall into the trap of executing a vote of
no confidence and then having Boris set a date for the election after
his disastrous hard Brexit has been forced through.

Quite. Seems to have been his whole policy to date. Break or bend any
rules for his own ends. The only way to regain the votes the Tories have
lost to the Brexit party.

But you can't really expect the likes of Boris to know or care what might
be best for the country.

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To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On 25/09/2019 14:45, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Martin Brown wrote:
It's an utterly bizarre situation where the opposition is seemingly
unprepared to govern, unwilling to take over, and so lacking in
confidence in itself that it won't even try.

They are smart enough not to fall into the trap of executing a vote of
no confidence and then having Boris set a date for the election after
his disastrous hard Brexit has been forced through.

Quite. Seems to have been his whole policy to date. Break or bend any
rules for his own ends. The only way to regain the votes the Tories have
lost to the Brexit party.

But you can't really expect the likes of Boris to know or care what might
be best for the country.

Is Corbyn's propping up Boris in office but unable to govern 'the best
for the country'?

On 25/09/2019 15:03, Norman Wells wrote:
On 25/09/2019 14:45, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Â*Â*Â* Martin Brown wrote:
It's an utterly bizarre situation where the opposition is seemingly
unprepared to govern, unwilling to take over, and so lacking in
confidence in itself that it won't even try.

They are smart enough not to fall into the trap of executing a vote of
no confidence and then having Boris set a date for the election after
his disastrous hard Brexit has been forced through.

Quite. Seems to have been his whole policy to date. Break or bend any
rules for his own ends. The only way to regain the votes the Tories have
lost to the Brexit party.

But you can't really expect the likes of Boris to know or care what might
be best for the country.

Is Corbyn's propping up Boris in office but unable to govern 'the best
for the country'?

Better than a no-deal Brexit - which isn't saying much.

They only need to hang him out to dry on his zip wire until 31/10/2019.
Once his self imposed Brexit "do-or-die" deadline passes he is toast.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

In article ,
Norman Wells wrote:
On 25/09/2019 14:45, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Martin Brown wrote:
It's an utterly bizarre situation where the opposition is seemingly
unprepared to govern, unwilling to take over, and so lacking in
confidence in itself that it won't even try.

They are smart enough not to fall into the trap of executing a vote of
no confidence and then having Boris set a date for the election after
his disastrous hard Brexit has been forced through.

Quite. Seems to have been his whole policy to date. Break or bend any
rules for his own ends. The only way to regain the votes the Tories have
lost to the Brexit party.

But you can't really expect the likes of Boris to know or care what might
be best for the country.

Is Corbyn's propping up Boris in office but unable to govern 'the best
for the country'?

Are you desperate to vote Corbyn in, then?

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*Parenthetical remarks (however relevant) are (usually) unnecessary *

Dave Plowman London SW
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