Need to remove some double sockets in a kitchen due to rearrangement of
where appliances are - some have to go.

So looking for a neat solution that I can terminate (to keep ring
continuity) within the existing back box (dry wall boxes)
Wiil be classed as inaccessible, will then make the drywall hole
good.(will be behind new glass decor panels)
Thinking off something like:
https://www.screwfix.com/p/debox-4-5...-box-32a/970gv


Or possibly I thought of WAGO connectors
There is a box ...
https://www.screwfix.com/p/wagobox-j...questid=494771

Can that take 3 separate WAGO connectors ?....
https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/WA173.html

Or please suggest if a simpler way.

rick wrote:

looking for a neat solution that I can terminate (to keep ring
continuity) within the existing back box (dry wall boxes)
Wiil be classed as inaccessible, will then make the drywall hole
good.(will be behind new glass decor panels)

If the existing cable run is from from socketA, to socketB, to socketC,
to socketD and you remove e.g. sockets B and C, will the remaining
cables from A to D still be within allowed zones?

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Safe_zones_for_electric_cables

On 15/09/2019 18:15, Andy Burns wrote:
rick wrote:

looking for a neat solution that I can terminate (to keep ring
continuity) within the existing back box (dry wall boxes)
Wiil be classed as inaccessible, will then make the drywall hole
good.(will be behind new glass decor panels)

If the existing cable run is from from socketA, to socketB, to socketC,
to socketD and you remove e.g. sockets B and C, will the remaining
cables from A to D still be within allowed zones?

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Safe_zones_for_electric_cables


On 15/09/2019 18:15, Andy Burns wrote: rick wrote:

looking for a neat solution that I can terminate (to keep ring
continuity) within the existing back box (dry wall boxes)
Will be classed as inaccessible, will then make the drywall hole
good.(will be behind new glass decor panels)

If the existing cable run is from from socketA, to socketB, to socketC,
to socketD and you remove e.g. sockets B and C, will the remaining
cables from A to D still be within allowed zones?

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Safe_zones_for_electric_cables
yes ..... it is only the outlet that was the issue.

On 15/09/2019 18:08, rick wrote:
Need to remove some double sockets in a kitchen due to rearrangement of
where appliances are - some have to go.

So looking for a neat solution that I can terminate (to keep ring
continuity) within the existing back box (dry wall boxes)
Wiil be classed as inaccessible, will then make the drywall hole
good.(will be behind new glass decor panels)
Thinking off something like:
https://www.screwfix.com/p/debox-4-5...-box-32a/970gv


Or possibly I thought of WAGO connectors
There is a box ...
https://www.screwfix.com/p/wagobox-j...questid=494771

Can that take 3 separate WAGO connectors ?....
https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/WA173.html

Or please suggest if a simpler way.

https://www.screwfix.com/p/teng-tool...1-pieces/2272x



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windows of my apartment. (I live on the twenty-first floor.) "

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One issue with Wago connectors and boxes is if you are using them in inaccessable situations you are limited to a maximum current of 20A which means you cannot use them to complete a ring main fused at 32A using 2.5mm2 T&E. If however the boxes are accessible then you can go up to their rated value of 32A, that's according to the info leaflet provided unless someone knows different?

Richard

On 16/09/2019 00:21, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 15/09/2019 18:08, rick wrote:
Need to remove some double sockets in a kitchen due to rearrangement
of where appliances are - some have to go.

So looking for a neat solution that I can terminate (to keep ring
continuity) within the existing back box (dry wall boxes)
Wiil be classed as inaccessible, will then make the drywall hole
good.(will be behind new glass decor panels)
Thinking off something like:
https://www.screwfix.com/p/debox-4-5...-box-32a/970gv


Or possibly I thought of WAGO connectors
There is a box ...
https://www.screwfix.com/p/wagobox-j...questid=494771

Can that take 3 separate WAGO connectors ?....
https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/WA173.html

Or please suggest if a simpler way.

https://www.screwfix.com/p/teng-tool...1-pieces/2272x




I am surprised at you. At the very least it should be a ratchet crimper.
Although I would probably go with Wago.

On 15/09/2019 18:08, rick wrote:
Need to remove some double sockets in a kitchen due to rearrangement of
where appliances are - some have to go.

So looking for a neat solution that I can terminate (to keep ring
continuity) within the existing back box (dry wall boxes)
Wiil be classed as inaccessible, will then make the drywall hole
good.(will be behind new glass decor panels)
Thinking off something like:
https://www.screwfix.com/p/debox-4-5...-box-32a/970gv


Or possibly I thought of WAGO connectors
There is a box ...
https://www.screwfix.com/p/wagobox-j...questid=494771

Can that take 3 separate WAGO connectors ?....
https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/WA173.html

Or please suggest if a simpler way.

Crimp or solder + heatshrink them and forget.

Alternatively, if this is not an outside wall, could the socket
be repositioned on the other side of the wall and used for
another purpose ?.

On Monday, 16 September 2019 10:08:18 UTC+1, Tricky Dicky wrote:
One issue with Wago connectors and boxes is if you are using them in inaccessable situations you are limited to a maximum current of 20A which means you cannot use them to complete a ring main fused at 32A using 2.5mm2 T&E. If however the boxes are accessible then you can go up to their rated value of 32A, that's according to the info leaflet provided unless someone knows different?

An exception to this is the 773-173 push wire connector which, when used within inaccessible locations, is rated to carry 32A (41A elsewhere).

On Mon, 16 Sep 2019 00:21:54 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

On 15/09/2019 18:08, rick wrote:
Need to remove some double sockets in a kitchen due to rearrangement of
where appliances are - some have to go.

So looking for a neat solution that I can terminate (to keep ring
continuity) within the existing back box (dry wall boxes)
Wiil be classed as inaccessible, will then make the drywall hole
good.(will be behind new glass decor panels)
Thinking off something like:
https://www.screwfix.com/p/debox-4-5...-box-32a/970gv


Or possibly I thought of WAGO connectors
There is a box ...
https://www.screwfix.com/p/wagobox-j...questid=494771

Can that take 3 separate WAGO connectors ?....
https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/WA173.html

Or please suggest if a simpler way.

https://www.screwfix.com/p/teng-tool...1-pieces/2272x

Why is crimping better than using a terminal block? Even if the
terminal block is 30 amps, by placing the bare cables in direct
contact would this not increase capacity?

On Thursday, 19 September 2019 19:06:57 UTC+1, Scott wrote:

Why is crimping better than using a terminal block? Even if the
terminal block is 30 amps, by placing the bare cables in direct
contact would this not increase capacity?

more reliable


NT