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Silicone and shower screen
I was watching a video clip and they recommend to silicone on the
external side of the shower screen and not both sides as water could get trapped, ok I understand that. I would have thought however to silicone just the internal side and not the external side of the screen as that would prevent any water getting under the glass screen. Am I missing something? |
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On 17/08/2019 21:04, ss wrote:
I was watching a video clip and they recommend to silicone on the external side of the shower screen and not both sides as water could get trapped, ok I understand that. I would have thought however to silicone just the internal side and not the external side of the screen as that would prevent any water getting under the glass screen. Am I missing something? I think the idea is that while either will work, it saves having a bead of silicone in the shower where its harder to keep clean, and more likely to be degraded by repeated cleaning etc. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 18/08/2019 13:36, John Rumm wrote:
On 17/08/2019 21:04, ss wrote: I was watching a video clip and they recommend to silicone on the external side of the shower screen and not both sides as water could get trapped, ok I understand that. I would have thought however to silicone just the internal side and not the external side of the screen as that would prevent any water getting under the glass screen. Am I missing something? I think the idea is that while either will work, it saves having a bead of silicone in the shower where its harder to keep clean, and more likely to be degraded by repeated cleaning etc. And instead leaves a gap under the screen that is impossible to clean and just perfect for growing mould -- If I had all the money I've spent on drink... ...I'd spend it on drink. Sir Henry (at Rawlinson's End) |
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Silicone and shower screen
On 18/08/2019 14:02, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 18/08/2019 13:36, John Rumm wrote: On 17/08/2019 21:04, ss wrote: I was watching a video clip and they recommend to silicone on the external side of the shower screen and not both sides as water could get trapped, ok I understand that. I would have thought however to silicone just the internal side and not the external side of the screen as that would prevent any water getting under the glass screen. Am I missing something? I think the idea is that while either will work, it saves having a bead of silicone in the shower where its harder to keep clean, and more likely to be degraded by repeated cleaning etc. AndÂ* instead leaves a gap under the screen that is impossible to clean and just perfect for growing mould Most of the screen instructions specify that the frame should be bedded on a bead of sealant. So there will be no gap under. They are just talking about omitting a fillet of it between wall and frame on the inside. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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Silicone and shower screen
On Saturday, 17 August 2019 21:04:30 UTC+1, ss wrote:
I would have thought however to silicone just the internal side and not the external side of the screen as that would prevent any water getting under the glass screen. Am I missing something? The way I think of it is that the silicone seal *will* definitely fail at some time. It might take a year, or it might take ten. But when it fails, water *will* end up in the frame and/or around the screen. So, given that water *will* be there, it's better that it can freely drain out into the shower tray, rather than onto the floor outside of the tray. So seal the outside. |
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On 18/08/2019 20:49, David wrote:
On Saturday, 17 August 2019 21:04:30 UTC+1, ss wrote: I would have thought however to silicone just the internal side and not the external side of the screen as that would prevent any water getting under the glass screen. Am I missing something? The way I think of it is that the silicone seal *will* definitely fail at some time. Never has with me It might take a year, or it might take ten. But when it fails, water *will* end up in the frame and/or around the screen. After nearly 20 years So, given that water *will* be there, it's better that it can freely drain out into the shower tray, rather than onto the floor outside of the tray. So seal the outside. Classic example of good logic from a bad assumption -- All political activity makes complete sense once the proposition that all government is basically a self-legalising protection racket, is fully understood. |
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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... On 18/08/2019 20:49, David wrote: On Saturday, 17 August 2019 21:04:30 UTC+1, ss wrote: I would have thought however to silicone just the internal side and not the external side of the screen as that would prevent any water getting under the glass screen. Am I missing something? The way I think of it is that the silicone seal *will* definitely fail at some time. Never has with me Hasnt with me either. It might take a year, or it might take ten. But when it fails, water *will* end up in the frame and/or around the screen. After nearly 20 years After 45 years in my case. I did use the high end branded stuff tho. So, given that water *will* be there, it's better that it can freely drain out into the shower tray, rather than onto the floor outside of the tray. So seal the outside. Classic example of good logic from a bad assumption No assumption so much. |
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More Heavy Trolling by Senile Nym-Shifting Rodent Speed!
On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 10:27:15 +1000, jeikppkywk, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote: The way I think of it is that the silicone seal *will* definitely fail at some time. Never has with me Hasn¢t with me either. NOBODY talked to you, senile pest. FLUSH the rest of your usual unasked-for **** -- dennis@home to retarded senile Rot: "sod off rod you don't have a clue about anything." Message-ID: |
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On Monday, 19 August 2019 01:27:27 UTC+1, jeikppkywk wrote:
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... On 18/08/2019 20:49, David wrote: The way I think of it is that the silicone seal *will* definitely fail at some time. Never has with me Hasnt with me either. Excellent. Well done to both of you |
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On 19/08/2019 09:26, David wrote:
On Monday, 19 August 2019 01:27:27 UTC+1, jeikppkywk wrote: "The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... On 18/08/2019 20:49, David wrote: The way I think of it is that the silicone seal *will* definitely fail at some time. Never has with me Hasnt with me either. Excellent. Well done to both of you No, well done the manufacturers for providing as stable product that does not degrade over time Their only mistake was to fail to inform you of this. We have. There is now no excuse. -- "The great thing about Glasgow is that if there's a nuclear attack it'll look exactly the same afterwards." Billy Connolly |
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Silicone and shower screen
On Monday, 19 August 2019 10:51:18 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 19/08/2019 09:26, David wrote: On Monday, 19 August 2019 01:27:27 UTC+1, jeikppkywk wrote: "The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... On 18/08/2019 20:49, David wrote: The way I think of it is that the silicone seal *will* definitely fail at some time. Never has with me Hasnt with me either. Excellent. Well done to both of you No, well done the manufacturers for providing as stable product that does not degrade over time Their only mistake was to fail to inform you of this. We have. There is now no excuse. Well, the thing is, I don't know whether any water has ever entered any of the shower screens I've sealed. I've always followed the manufacturers' instructions and sealed the external side, so if any water has entered the frame, it has run harmlessly straight out again into the shower tray or bath... I assume ;-) |
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