On 28/07/2019 10:26, Andrew wrote:
On 27/07/2019 10:53, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 26/07/2019 21:46, ARW wrote:
On 26/07/2019 21:09, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 26/07/2019 20:47, ARW wrote:
On 25/07/2019 15:20, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Outside: 36°C
Inside: 28°C


:-)


Hands up those that do not have a thermometer and just opened the
back windows when they got in from work to "let some air in"?

My hoouse stat tells nme inside tem[ps and I have a mercutry
termotere as part of a vinateg barometer

Outsode I use lakenheath, mildenhall or Cambridge airfields via th
linux weather app to see whats what



Such unneeded effort IMHO as there there is not much you can do about
it:-)

1. I know when it is hot
2. People in the street tell you it is hot (the same pillocks that
tell you when it is raining)
3. Weather forecasts tell you when it will be hot.
4. It would be a **** of a job to change the thermal mass of my house.

Actually simply casting a big concrete block inside the house would do it



Or even planting some deciduous trees to stop/reduce the solar gain in
summer.

NO. what you need is eaves overhang. Shade when the sun is high, solar
gain in winter


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"If you dont read the news paper, you are un-informed. If you read the
news paper, you are mis-informed."

Mark Twain

On 28/07/2019 10:42, Richard wrote:
On 28/07/2019 07:51, harry wrote:
On Saturday, 27 July 2019 10:53:49 UTC+1, The Natural PhilosopherÂ* wrote:
On 26/07/2019 21:46, ARW wrote:
On 26/07/2019 21:09, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 26/07/2019 20:47, ARW wrote:
On 25/07/2019 15:20, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Outside: 36°C
Inside: 28°C


:-)


Hands up those that do not have a thermometer and just opened the
back windows when they got in from work to "let some air in"?

My hoouse stat tells nme inside tem[ps and I have a mercutry termotere
as part of a vinateg barometer

Outsode I use lakenheath, mildenhall or Cambridge airfields via th
linux weather app to see whats what



Such unneeded effort IMHO as there there is not much you can do
about it:-)

1. I know when it is hot
2. People in the street tell you it is hot (the same pillocks that tell
you when it is raining)
3. Weather forecasts tell you when it will be hot.
4. It would be a **** of a job to change the thermal mass of my house.

Actually simply casting a big concrete block inside the house would
do it


I have 30 tons of thermal mass concrete in my house. It takes three
months to cool off/warm up.
I have zero heating bill.
Plus. a negative electricity bill to the value of £2000/year.
Plus a zero fuel cost car in Summer.

You need to do things properly.
It enables a reasonably good lifestyle.

You really are a ****stain, harry.
If every home in the UK had 30 tons of concrete

Most have WAY more than that

Modern floors are solid 6" concrete with masses of insluation and UFH



thermal mass that would
be about 750 million tons of the stuff.
If every home in the UK was being as parasitic as you, who would pay for
the FIT bill?


--
"If you dont read the news paper, you are un-informed. If you read the
news paper, you are mis-informed."

Mark Twain

On 28/07/2019 16:13, The Natural Philosopher wrote:


Or even planting some deciduous trees to stop/reduce the solar gain in
summer.

NO. what you need is eaves overhang. Shade when the sun is high, solar
gain in winter



deciduous.. no leaves in winter

you need some bloody big eves overhangs to shade much of a house,
several meters on mine.
It would be easier to fit shutters like they do in sunny countries.

On 27/07/2019 10:53, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 26/07/2019 21:46, ARW wrote:
On 26/07/2019 21:09, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 26/07/2019 20:47, ARW wrote:
On 25/07/2019 15:20, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Outside: 36°C
Inside: 28°C


:-)


Hands up those that do not have a thermometer and just opened the
back windows when they got in from work to "let some air in"?

My hoouse stat tells nme inside tem[ps and I have a mercutry
termotere as part of a vinateg barometer

Outsode I use lakenheath, mildenhall or Cambridge airfields via th
linux weather app to see whats what



Such unneeded effort IMHO as there there is not much you can do about
it:-)

1. I know when it is hot
2. People in the street tell you it is hot (the same pillocks that
tell you when it is raining)
3. Weather forecasts tell you when it will be hot.
4. It would be a **** of a job to change the thermal mass of my house.

Actually simply casting a big concrete block inside the house would do it



In the lounge?

--
Adam

"dennis@home" wrote in message
...
On 27/07/2019 10:53, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 26/07/2019 21:46, ARW wrote:
On 26/07/2019 21:09, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 26/07/2019 20:47, ARW wrote:
On 25/07/2019 15:20, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Outside: 36°C
Inside: 28°C


:-)


Hands up those that do not have a thermometer and just opened the back
windows when they got in from work to "let some air in"?

My hoouse stat tells nme inside tem[ps and I have a mercutry termotere
as part of a vinateg barometer

Outsode I use lakenheath, mildenhall or Cambridge airfields via th
linux weather app to see whats what



Such unneeded effort IMHO as there there is not much you can do about
it:-)

1. I know when it is hot
2. People in the street tell you it is hot (the same pillocks that tell
you when it is raining)
3. Weather forecasts tell you when it will be hot.
4. It would be a **** of a job to change the thermal mass of my house.

Actually simply casting a big concrete block inside the house would do it

But not very well.
It would be far better to have air channels in it so you could get energy
in and out when you wanted.

Much better to have a room full of road base crushed
rock on a metal grid at the bottom for an air chamber.

Problem is with your tiny houses, that takes a lot of space.

On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 06:17:59 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


Much better to have

Senile idiot knows it ALL better ...AGAIN! LOL

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"You have mentioned Alexa in a couple of threads recently, it is not a real
woman you know even if it is the only thing with a Female name that stays
around around while you talk it to it.
Poor sad git who has to resort to Usenet and electronic devices for any
interaction as all real people run a mile to get away from from you boring
them to death."
MID:

On Fri, 26 Jul 2019 19:34:44 +0100, Harry Bloomfield wrote:

To help cool the house, I added a large fan on the bedroom window sill,
in front of the open window.

So drawing the hotter external air into the house, yes that'll really
cool it down...

To keep a house as cool as possible shut the windows and draw the
curtains on the south ish facing sides. If it cools down enough
outside in the evening/over night open windows and open the curtians
on the north ish facing sides.

The thermal mass here also did it's stuff, inside only got to the
very low 20's C with it pushing 30 C outside.

--
Cheers
Dave.

On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 04:49:50 +1000, Swer wrote:

By day, draw the curtains and shut the windows. at night reverse
that./

Really useless advice to anyone living in the centre of a built up
area where burglaries are commonplace.

Not if you have bars on the windows.

The windows don't need to be wide open, The locked a jar position is
enough for accessable windows. On the safety hook for higher ones.

--
Cheers
Dave.

On Sunday, 28 July 2019 22:51:54 UTC+1, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Fri, 26 Jul 2019 19:34:44 +0100, Harry Bloomfield wrote:

To help cool the house, I added a large fan on the bedroom window sill,
in front of the open window.

So drawing the hotter external air into the house, yes that'll really
cool it down...

To keep a house as cool as possible shut the windows and draw the
curtains on the south ish facing sides. If it cools down enough
outside in the evening/over night open windows and open the curtians
on the north ish facing sides.

The thermal mass here also did it's stuff, inside only got to the
very low 20's C with it pushing 30 C outside.

Houses vary. Some should be opened to cool them during a heatwave, some retain more coolth and are best shut. But all masonry houses can cool down at night from good ventilation, thus reducing day temp.


NT

On 28/07/2019 18:03, ARW wrote:
On 27/07/2019 10:53, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 26/07/2019 21:46, ARW wrote:
On 26/07/2019 21:09, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 26/07/2019 20:47, ARW wrote:
On 25/07/2019 15:20, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Outside: 36°C
Inside: 28°C


:-)


Hands up those that do not have a thermometer and just opened the
back windows when they got in from work to "let some air in"?

My hoouse stat tells nme inside tem[ps and I have a mercutry
termotere as part of a vinateg barometer

Outsode I use lakenheath, mildenhall or Cambridge airfields via th
linux weather app to see whats what



Such unneeded effort IMHO as there there is not much you can do about
it:-)

1. I know when it is hot
2. People in the street tell you it is hot (the same pillocks that
tell you when it is raining)
3. Weather forecasts tell you when it will be hot.
4. It would be a **** of a job to change the thermal mass of my house.

Actually simply casting a big concrete block inside the house would do it



In the lounge?

Where else? Make a really nice loudspeaker and TV enclosure out of it
with a space for a fish tank.



--
"First, find out who are the people you can not criticise. They are your
oppressors."
- George Orwell

On 28/07/2019 22:51, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Fri, 26 Jul 2019 19:34:44 +0100, Harry Bloomfield wrote:

To help cool the house, I added a large fan on the bedroom window sill,
in front of the open window.

So drawing the hotter external air into the house, yes that'll really
cool it down...

To keep a house as cool as possible shut the windows and draw the
curtains on the south ish facing sides. If it cools down enough
outside in the evening/over night open windows and open the curtians
on the north ish facing sides.

The thermal mass here also did it's stuff, inside only got to the
very low 20's C with it pushing 30 C outside.

You must be further north. It was over 35C here for sure. And I was in
the mid 20s inside


--
Microsoft : the best reason to go to Linux that ever existed.

"dennis@home" wrote in message
...
On 28/07/2019 16:13, The Natural Philosopher wrote:


Or even planting some deciduous trees to stop/reduce the solar gain in
summer.

NO. what you need is eaves overhang. Shade when the sun is high, solar
gain in winter



deciduous.. no leaves in winter

you need some bloody big eves overhangs to shade much of a house, several
meters on mine.

Two meters on mine.

It would be easier to fit shutters like they do in sunny countries.

Abd gave to fart around opening and closing them twice a day. No thanks.

On Monday, 29 July 2019 00:45:09 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Where else? Make a really nice loudspeaker and TV enclosure out of it
with a space for a fish tank.

And cover it with stone cladding and call it the 1970s again

Owain

On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 15:37:53 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


deciduous.. no leaves in winter

you need some bloody big eves overhangs to shade much of a house, several
meters on mine.

Two meters on mine.

Nobody asked you, senile Rodent.

It would be easier to fit shutters like they do in sunny countries.

Abd gave to fart around opening and closing them twice a day. No thanks.

You have no problem farting around and trolling on Usenet all night and day,
senile idiot!

--
about senile Rot Speed:
"This is like having a conversation with someone with brain damage."
MID:

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

ARW wrote:

It would be a **** of a job to change the thermal mass of my house.

Actually simply casting a big concrete block inside the house would
do it

In the lounge?

Where else?

Rachel Whiteread wants her art-piece back ...

On 29/07/2019 09:22, wrote:
On Monday, 29 July 2019 00:45:09 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Where else? Make a really nice loudspeaker and TV enclosure out of it
with a space for a fish tank.

And cover it with stone cladding and call it the 1970s again

Or leave it bare and call it the 1950s, or make sure it is imnpossibly
angular for that art deco look


Owain




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€œit should be clear by now to everyone that activist environmentalism
(or environmental activism) is becoming a general ideology about humans,
about their freedom, about the relationship between the individual and
the state, and about the manipulation of people under the guise of a
'noble' idea. It is not an honest pursuit of 'sustainable development,'
a matter of elementary environmental protection, or a search for
rational mechanisms designed to achieve a healthy environment. Yet
things do occur that make you shake your head and remind yourself that
you live neither in Joseph Stalins Communist era, nor in the Orwellian
utopia of 1984.€�

Vaclav Klaus

On 29/07/2019 09:22, wrote:
On Monday, 29 July 2019 00:45:09 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Where else? Make a really nice loudspeaker and TV enclosure out of it
with a space for a fish tank.

And cover it with stone cladding and call it the 1970s again


Polish it shirley?

On 28/07/2019 16:13, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 28/07/2019 10:26, Andrew wrote:
On 27/07/2019 10:53, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 26/07/2019 21:46, ARW wrote:
On 26/07/2019 21:09, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 26/07/2019 20:47, ARW wrote:
On 25/07/2019 15:20, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Outside: 36°C
Inside: 28°C


:-)


Hands up those that do not have a thermometer and just opened the
back windows when they got in from work to "let some air in"?

My hoouse stat tells nme inside tem[ps and I have a mercutry
termotere as part of a vinateg barometer

Outsode I use lakenheath, mildenhall or Cambridge airfields via th
linux weather app to see whats what



Such unneeded effort IMHO as there there is not much you can do
about it:-)

1. I know when it is hot
2. People in the street tell you it is hot (the same pillocks that
tell you when it is raining)
3. Weather forecasts tell you when it will be hot.
4. It would be a **** of a job to change the thermal mass of my house.

Actually simply casting a big concrete block inside the house would
do it



Or even planting some deciduous trees to stop/reduce the solar gain in
summer.

NO. what you need is eaves overhang. Shade when the sun is high, solar
gain in winter



Plant big deciduous trees then.

On 29/07/2019 09:22, wrote:
On Monday, 29 July 2019 00:45:09 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Where else? Make a really nice loudspeaker and TV enclosure out of it
with a space for a fish tank.

And cover it with stone cladding and call it the 1970s again

Owain



Do the people who fitted stome cladding have the last laugh ?.

It added an extra layer of windchill protection and if facing
south, protection from driving rain and summer sun.

On Sunday, 28 July 2019 10:42:24 UTC+1, Richard wrote:
On 28/07/2019 07:51, harry wrote:
On Saturday, 27 July 2019 10:53:49 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 26/07/2019 21:46, ARW wrote:
On 26/07/2019 21:09, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 26/07/2019 20:47, ARW wrote:
On 25/07/2019 15:20, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Outside: 36°C
Inside: 28°C


:-)


Hands up those that do not have a thermometer and just opened the
back windows when they got in from work to "let some air in"?

My hoouse stat tells nme inside tem[ps and I have a mercutry termotere
as part of a vinateg barometer

Outsode I use lakenheath, mildenhall or Cambridge airfields via th
linux weather app to see whats what



Such unneeded effort IMHO as there there is not much you can do about it:-)

1. I know when it is hot
2. People in the street tell you it is hot (the same pillocks that tell
you when it is raining)
3. Weather forecasts tell you when it will be hot.
4. It would be a **** of a job to change the thermal mass of my house..

Actually simply casting a big concrete block inside the house would do it


I have 30 tons of thermal mass concrete in my house. It takes three months to cool off/warm up.
I have zero heating bill.
Plus. a negative electricity bill to the value of £2000/year.
Plus a zero fuel cost car in Summer.

You need to do things properly.
It enables a reasonably good lifestyle.

You really are a ****stain, harry.
If every home in the UK had 30 tons of concrete thermal mass that would
be about 750 million tons of the stuff.
If every home in the UK was being as parasitic as you, who would pay for
the FIT bill?

And you are a ****-fer-brains.
The thirty tons of concrete is part of the house structure.
It is the retaining wall for my earth shielded house.
Any medium sized traditional house could have a hundred tons of masonry/concrete in it.
When it comes to aggregates, brick, concrete, a hundred tons is nothing.

On Sunday, 28 July 2019 16:14:29 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 28/07/2019 10:42, Richard wrote:
On 28/07/2019 07:51, harry wrote:
On Saturday, 27 July 2019 10:53:49 UTC+1, The Natural PhilosopherÂ* wrote:
On 26/07/2019 21:46, ARW wrote:
On 26/07/2019 21:09, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 26/07/2019 20:47, ARW wrote:
On 25/07/2019 15:20, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Outside: 36°C
Inside: 28°C


:-)


Hands up those that do not have a thermometer and just opened the
back windows when they got in from work to "let some air in"?

My hoouse stat tells nme inside tem[ps and I have a mercutry termotere
as part of a vinateg barometer

Outsode I use lakenheath, mildenhall or Cambridge airfields via th
linux weather app to see whats what



Such unneeded effort IMHO as there there is not much you can do
about it:-)

1. I know when it is hot
2. People in the street tell you it is hot (the same pillocks that tell
you when it is raining)
3. Weather forecasts tell you when it will be hot.
4. It would be a **** of a job to change the thermal mass of my house.

Actually simply casting a big concrete block inside the house would
do it


I have 30 tons of thermal mass concrete in my house. It takes three
months to cool off/warm up.
I have zero heating bill.
Plus. a negative electricity bill to the value of £2000/year.
Plus a zero fuel cost car in Summer.

You need to do things properly.
It enables a reasonably good lifestyle.

You really are a ****stain, harry.
If every home in the UK had 30 tons of concrete

Most have WAY more than that

Modern floors are solid 6" concrete with masses of insluation and UFH


Our Richard is much to thick to understand such things.

On 29/07/2019 14:05, Andrew wrote:
On 29/07/2019 09:22, wrote:
On Monday, 29 July 2019 00:45:09 UTC+1, The Natural PhilosopherÂ* wrote:
Where else? Make a really nice loudspeaker and TV enclosure out of it
with a space for a fish tank.

And cover it with stone cladding and call it the 1970s again

Owain



Do the people who fitted stome cladding have the last laugh ?.

It added an extra layer of windchill protection and if facing
south, protection from driving rain and summer sun.

Not inside yer living room


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gospel of envy.

Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.

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