My PC is working ok but asus netbook will not connect.it is getting the
signal but wont connect.

Signal strength is excellent.

I have tried `repair` but no joy.

It was connecting last Time I used it (I only use for hols) a couple of
months back.

No changes have been made by me since last used.

What to try next? I havent a clue on this stuff.

In article ,
ss wrote:
My PC is working ok but asus netbook will not connect.it is getting the
signal but wont connect.

Signal strength is excellent.

I have tried `repair` but no joy.

It was connecting last Time I used it (I only use for hols) a couple of
months back.

No changes have been made by me since last used.

What to try next? I havent a clue on this stuff.

Is this via Wi-Fi or cable?

If Wi-Fi, are you sure it is trying to connecting to your own signal?
Round here, I get a choice of about a dozen.

Just that if you last used it elsewhere, it may have forgotten your own
Wi-Fi password, or whatever.

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Also some routers can seem to lock things out for no apparent reason, I
assume you have tried a router reboot. It would be interesting to know if
smart phones or other wifi devices like Amazon smart speakers are connecting
OK.
Often this sort of thing can be due to interference on one way or the
others comms, a channel is being used by a neighbour etc, so the signal
quality may be so bad it cannot hear the return signals properly.
Does it help if its really close to the router?
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In article ,
ss wrote:
My PC is working ok but asus netbook will not connect.it is getting the
signal but wont connect.

Signal strength is excellent.

I have tried `repair` but no joy.

It was connecting last Time I used it (I only use for hols) a couple of
months back.

No changes have been made by me since last used.

What to try next? I havent a clue on this stuff.

Is this via Wi-Fi or cable?

If Wi-Fi, are you sure it is trying to connecting to your own signal?
Round here, I get a choice of about a dozen.

Just that if you last used it elsewhere, it may have forgotten your own
Wi-Fi password, or whatever.

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On 05/06/2019 20:23, Brian Gaff wrote:
Also some routers can seem to lock things out for no apparent reason, I
assume you have tried a router reboot. It would be interesting to know if
smart phones or other wifi devices like Amazon smart speakers are connecting
OK.
Often this sort of thing can be due to interference on one way or the
others comms, a channel is being used by a neighbour etc, so the signal
quality may be so bad it cannot hear the return signals properly.
Does it help if its really close to the router?
Brian

It is about 4 feet from the router.
my wifes iphones and stuff connect ok.

I am sure it is a simple fix if I kew what I was doing.

On 05/06/2019 20:48, ss wrote:
On 05/06/2019 20:23, Brian Gaff wrote:
Also some routers can seem to lock things out for no apparent reason, I
assume you have tried a router reboot. It would be interesting to know if
smart phones or other wifi devices like Amazon smart speakers are
connecting
OK.
Â* Often this sort of thing can be due to interference on one way or the
others comms, a channel is being used by a neighbour etc, so the signal
quality may be so bad it cannot hear the return signals properly.
Â* Does it help if its really close to the router?
Â* Brian

It is about 4 feet from the router.
my wifes iphones and stuff connect ok.

I am sure it is a simple fix if I kew what I was doing.
It sounds lioke you atre not using DHCP to automatically allocate IP
address, defdault gateway and DNS server.

Somewhee in network settings there should be a
page to turn on that.



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On 05/06/2019 11:54, ss wrote:
My PC is working ok but asus netbook will not connect.it is getting the
signal but wont connect.

Signal strength is excellent.

I have tried `repair` but no joy.

It was connecting last Time I used it (I only use for hols) a couple of
months back.

No changes have been made by me since last used.

What to try next?Â* I havent a clue on this stuff.

What OS is it running?

(Often getting it to "forget" the details of an existing connection and
then re-making it can help)

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On 05/06/2019 14:14, John Rumm wrote:
What OS is it running?

(Often getting it to "forget" the details of an existing connection and
then re-making it can help)

Using wi-fi all located where I normally use it.
The connection is the correct one I have checked with the modem
The connection is saved as `connect automatically`
Against the connection for here it states `Limited or no
connectivity`with a 5 bar green connection signal.

Other message:

`This problem ocurred because the network did not assign a network
address to the computer`

Network Connection details:
Physical address 1C-4B-D6-xx-xx-xx
IP address 169.254.72xx
Subnet mask 255.255.0.0
default gateway
DNS server
WINS server

On 05/06/2019 14:26, ss wrote:
On 05/06/2019 14:14, John Rumm wrote:
What OS is it running?

(Often getting it to "forget" the details of an existing connection
and then re-making it can help)

Using wi-fi all located where I normally use it.
The connection is the correct one I have checked with the modem
The connection is saved as `connect automatically`
Against the connection for here it states `Limited or no
connectivity`with a 5 bar green connection signal.

Other message:

`This problem ocurred because the network did not assign a network
address to the computer`

Network Connection details:
Physical addressÂ*Â* 1C-4B-D6-xx-xx-xx
IP addressÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 169.254.72xx
Subnet maskÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 255.255.0.0
default gateway
DNS server
WINS server

What router? What OS on the netbook

What happens if you manually assign a IP and default gateway to the
netbook wifi adapor (using an address that is not inside the DHVP
address pool being allocated by the router)


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On 05/06/2019 14:31, John Rumm wrote:
What router? What OSÂ* on the netbook

.............Router Virgin hub 3.0 Win xp

What happens if you manually assign a IP and default gateway to the
netbook wifi adapor (using an address that is not inside the DHVP
address pool being allocated by the router)

Dont even know where to start on the above.

Tried pair WPS ....no change
Tried reboot on router ......no change.

Message when trying to connect:
windows was unable to find a certificate to log you on to Virgin media.

On 05/06/2019 16:32, ss wrote:
windows was unable to find a certificate to log you on to Virgin media


Maybe..

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/for...o-the-network/

ss wrote:

Message when trying to connect:
windows was unable to find a certificate to log you on to Virgin media.

Home networks rarely require certificates to connect to wifi (it's more
for corporate networks) as suggested elsewhere tell windows to "forget"
the virgin wifi network, then re-connect to it, and hopefully it should
request a passphrase instead.

On 05/06/2019 16:32, ss wrote:
On 05/06/2019 14:31, John Rumm wrote:
What router? What OSÂ* on the netbook

............Router Virgin hub 3.0Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Win xp

What happens if you manually assign a IP and default gateway to the
netbook wifi adapor (using an address that is not inside the DHVP
address pool being allocated by the router)

Dont even know where to start on the above.

Control panel, then network connections
Right click on the wifi adaptor connection and choose "properties"
Double click the "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)" entry
On the general tab of the dialog use the radio buttons to select the
options to specify IP and DNS addresses.

Set the IP to a valid one for the network, and the DNS entry to match
the address of the router (probably 192.168.0.1 for a virgin home hub).

OK your way out of the dialogs.




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You may of course be getting the xp is too old so we won't let it back on
syndrome.
I've seen this before, but since I use a piggy back router not the virgin
internal one I get around it.
Brian

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On 05/06/2019 14:31, John Rumm wrote:
What router? What OS on the netbook

............Router Virgin hub 3.0 Win xp

What happens if you manually assign a IP and default gateway to the
netbook wifi adapor (using an address that is not inside the DHVP address
pool being allocated by the router)

Dont even know where to start on the above.

Tried pair WPS ....no change
Tried reboot on router ......no change.

Message when trying to connect:
windows was unable to find a certificate to log you on to Virgin media.

ss wrote:


IP addressÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 169.254.72xx

you've connected to the actual wifi network, but your router hasn't
allocated you an IP address, so the computer has "invented" one which is
not much good, try rebooting your router.

ss wrote:
On 05/06/2019 14:14, John Rumm wrote:
What OS is it running?

(Often getting it to "forget" the details of an existing connection and
then re-making it can help)

Using wi-fi all located where I normally use it.
The connection is the correct one I have checked with the modem
The connection is saved as `connect automatically`
Against the connection for here it states `Limited or no
connectivity`with a 5 bar green connection signal.

Other message:

`This problem ocurred because the network did not assign a network
address to the computer`

Network Connection details:
Physical address 1C-4B-D6-xx-xx-xx
IP address 169.254.72xx
Subnet mask 255.255.0.0
default gateway
DNS server
WINS server


Well worth trying a router reboot.

Tim

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On 05/06/2019 14:14, John Rumm wrote:
On 05/06/2019 11:54, ss wrote:
My PC is working ok but asus netbook will not connect.it is getting
the signal but wont connect.

Signal strength is excellent.

I have tried `repair` but no joy.

It was connecting last Time I used it (I only use for hols) a couple
of months back.

No changes have been made by me since last used.

What to try next?Â* I havent a clue on this stuff.

What OS is it running?

(Often getting it to "forget" the details of an existing connection and
then re-making it can help)

What is the hardware?
What is it connecting to?

My car wont start. Please help


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On 05/06/2019 14:14, John Rumm wrote:
On 05/06/2019 11:54, ss wrote:
My PC is working ok but asus netbook will not connect.it is getting
the signal but wont connect.

Signal strength is excellent.

I have tried `repair` but no joy.

It was connecting last Time I used it (I only use for hols) a couple
of months back.

No changes have been made by me since last used.

What to try next? I havent a clue on this stuff.

What OS is it running?

(Often getting it to "forget" the details of an existing connection and
then re-making it can help)

What is the hardware?
What is it connecting to?

My car wont start. Please help



Can we carry on with the fan wiring instead?
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On 05/06/2019 18:35, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
What is the hardware?
What is it connecting to?

Win xp
virgin wi-fi

On 05/06/2019 18:49, ss wrote:
On 05/06/2019 18:35, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
What is the hardware?
What is it connecting to?

Win xp
virgin wi-fi

What is 'virgin wifi'


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On 05/06/2019 18:50, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 05/06/2019 18:49, ss wrote:
On 05/06/2019 18:35, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
What is the hardware?
What is it connecting to?

Win xp
virgin wi-fi

What is 'virgin wifi'


You're not helping. Nobody has suggested buying something Apple as "it
just works" or reinstalling Windows. Help trolls are not what they used
to be.

On 05/06/2019 18:50, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
What is the hardware?
What is it connecting to?

Win xp
virgin wi-fi

What is 'virgin wifi'

The internet as far as I am concerned.
This end of computers I have not a clue I have never in 20 years had to
connect one to the internet hence my issues I dont even understand the
terminology, I am having to google it as I read these posts.

ss wrote:
On 05/06/2019 18:35, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
What is the hardware?
What is it connecting to?

Win xp
virgin wi-fi


I wonder whether this is an XP problem? I have vague recollection of an old
XP set-up getting cut off from the net by Microsoft due to lack of security
updates. Maybe firewall settings have decided its a security risk?

Tim

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On 05/06/2019 11:54, ss wrote:
My PC is working ok but asus netbook will not connect.it is getting the
signal but wont connect.

Signal strength is excellent.

I have tried `repair` but no joy.

It was connecting last Time I used it (I only use for hols) a couple of
months back.

No changes have been made by me since last used.

What to try next? I havent a clue on this stuff.

What OS is it running?

(Often getting it to "forget" the details of an existing connection and
then re-making it can help)

I have just done that with a 2nd hand Galaxy A3 which wouldn't log on to O2
wifi.

Apparently the trick is to target it to 1.0.0.0 which defaults to the
homepage of the router.

You then login with your correct details and it forgets the saved ones and
remembers yours.

Probably no use to the OP, who I hope has resolved his issue by now! But
may be of use to someone else.

James

Yes June is busting out all over... again.
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On 05/06/2019 11:54, ss wrote:
My PC is working ok but asus netbook will not connect.it is getting the
signal but wont connect.

Signal strength is excellent.

I have tried `repair` but no joy.

It was connecting last Time I used it (I only use for hols) a couple of
months back.

No changes have been made by me since last used.

What to try next? I havent a clue on this stuff.

What OS is it running?

(Often getting it to "forget" the details of an existing connection and
then re-making it can help)

I have just done that with a 2nd hand Galaxy A3 which wouldn't log on to
O2 wifi.

Apparently the trick is to target it to 1.0.0.0 which defaults to the
homepage of the router.

You then login with your correct details and it forgets the saved ones and
remembers yours.

Probably no use to the OP, who I hope has resolved his issue by now! But
may be of use to someone else.

James

In article ,
says...

My PC is working ok but asus netbook will not connect.it is getting the
signal but wont connect.

Signal strength is excellent.

I have tried `repair` but no joy.

It was connecting last Time I used it (I only use for hols) a couple of
months back.

No changes have been made by me since last used.
.
What to try next?

Have you got a "Pair WPS" button on your WiFi router?

Try pressing it while your netbook is trying to connect to it
and see what happens (you'll have to wait for it go through
the motions - it wopn't be instantaneous).

I havent a clue on this stuff

Logging on to the router might shed some light on the problem.
To quote the old maxim: "When all else fails, read the
instructions!"

If you haven't got them or lost them, try looking for them on
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On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 11:54:57 +0100, ss wrote:

My PC is working ok but asus netbook will not connect.it is getting the
signal but wont connect.

Signal strength is excellent.

I have tried `repair` but no joy.

It was connecting last Time I used it (I only use for hols) a couple of
months back.

No changes have been made by me since last used.

What to try next? I havent a clue on this stuff.

Does the netbook have an Ethernet port and if so, have you tried
connecting it to the router directly OOI? (sorry, not followed the
entire thread).

Cheers, T i m

On 05/06/2019 21:29, T i m wrote:
Does the netbook have an Ethernet port and if so, have you tried
connecting it to the router directly OOI? (sorry, not followed the
entire thread).

Yes I tried that and no joy.

On 05/06/2019 21:34, ss wrote:
On 05/06/2019 21:29, T i m wrote:

I have just looked out my old laptop (winxp) at least 12 years old and
never used for at least 5 years, it connected up straight away on
wi-fi, so might try and follow the settings on that and attempt to
mirror them on the netbook.

On 05/06/2019 22:08, ss wrote:
On 05/06/2019 21:34, ss wrote:
On 05/06/2019 21:29, T i m wrote:

I have just looked out my old laptop (winxp) at least 12 years old and
never used for at least 5 years,Â* it connected up straight away on
wi-fi, so might try and follow the settings on that and attempt to
mirror them on the netbook.



comparison between netbook and laptop settings.
https://imgur.com/5lo5wFF

ss wrote:

comparison between netbook and laptop settings.
https://imgur.com/5lo5wFF

You haven't given the netbook a gateway, give it 192.168.0.1 without
that it can only see stuff on your own network, not the internet

On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 22:22:02 +0100, ss wrote:

On 05/06/2019 22:08, ss wrote:
On 05/06/2019 21:34, ss wrote:
On 05/06/2019 21:29, T i m wrote:

I have just looked out my old laptop (winxp) at least 12 years old and
never used for at least 5 years,* it connected up straight away on
wi-fi, so might try and follow the settings on that and attempt to
mirror them on the netbook.



comparison between netbook and laptop settings.
https://imgur.com/5lo5wFF

You don't seem to have a default gateway setting on the netbook and
you would need one if you wanted to 'get out' of your local network
(and you do).

You could set the default gateway on the manual settings (to
192.168.0.1) before you do and see what happens though.

However, setting the interface to manual can mask other issues so it
might be worth putting it back to automatic (DHCP).

I think it may have been mentioned upthread that some old WiFi
interfaces may not work on the new Hubs (VM particularly). Do you have
a neighbour, family member or Internet cafe that would let you test
the Netbook on their WiFi?

Cheers, T i m

On 05/06/2019 22:22, ss wrote:
On 05/06/2019 22:08, ss wrote:
On 05/06/2019 21:34, ss wrote:
On 05/06/2019 21:29, T i m wrote:

I have just looked out my old laptop (winxp) at least 12 years old and
never used for at least 5 years,Â* it connected up straight away on
wi-fi, so might try and follow the settings on that and attempt to
mirror them on the netbook.



comparison between netbook and laptop settings.
https://imgur.com/5lo5wFF


192.168.0.1 is the address of the VM router and is manually assigned in
accordance with John Rumm's post at 1733. Try changing it back so the
address is assigned by DHCP and the default gateway matches your old
laptop.

If that still doesn't work & you haven't already done so check the
firewall settings are the dame

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On 05/06/2019 22:22, ss wrote:
On 05/06/2019 22:08, ss wrote:
On 05/06/2019 21:34, ss wrote:
On 05/06/2019 21:29, T i m wrote:

I have just looked out my old laptop (winxp) at least 12 years old and
never used for at least 5 years,Â* it connected up straight away on
wi-fi, so might try and follow the settings on that and attempt to
mirror them on the netbook.



comparison between netbook and laptop settings.
https://imgur.com/5lo5wFF



Turn DHCP on so it gets the correct IP and gateway from the router.
The ones it has won't work as it has the same IP as the router.

On 05/06/2019 21:34, ss wrote:
On 05/06/2019 21:29, T i m wrote:
Does the netbook have an Ethernet port and if so, have you tried
connecting it to the router directly OOI? (sorry, not followed the
entire thread).

Yes I tried that and no joy.

Thenyou have one really ****ed` up configuration

Try turning the IP aqdress allocation to 'automatic' or 'dhcp'


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On 05/06/2019 21:34, ss wrote:
On 05/06/2019 21:29, T i m wrote:
Does the netbook have an Ethernet port and if so, have you tried
connecting it to the router directly OOI? (sorry, not followed the
entire thread).

Yes I tried that and no joy.

Thenyou have one really ****ed` up configuration

Try turning the IP aqdress allocation to 'automatic' or 'dhcp'



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On 06/06/2019 18:09, Jim K.. wrote:
Thenyou have one really ****ed` up configuration

Try turning the IP aqdress allocation to 'automatic' or 'dhcp'

UPDATE:

Unfortunately I am no further forward, I do however thank all for their
efforts and time in trying to help. I was hoping to get it working by
Fri as I use it on hols but will just borrow a small laptop for that.

I think my best plan is to leave alone until I find someone local who
can have a `hands on` look as I am sure it is a simple fix (for some)

My apptitude is for mechanical things and rarely do I fail to fix them,
when it goes electronic it mystifies me as I cant work out any logic to
the problem.

On 06/06/2019 17:49, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 05/06/2019 21:34, ss wrote:
On 05/06/2019 21:29, T i m wrote:
Does the netbook have an Ethernet port and if so, have you tried
connecting it to the router directly OOI? (sorry, not followed the
entire thread).

Yes I tried that and no joy.

Thenyou have one really ****ed` up configuration

Try turning the IP aqdress allocation to 'automatic' or 'dhcp'

If DHCP is not working then there are a number of possibilities. Its
possible if attempting certificate validation it won't get as far as
being able to even start DHCP, and sometimes that option can be enabled
at the wifi adaptor level rather than in the wifi configuration itself.
(I have posted a guide on disabling that elsewhere)

Its also possible that the TCP/IP stack needs a complete reset. That is
worth trying since it won't hurt, and can fix a number of issues. To do
that from a command prompt issue the commands:

netsh winsock reset
netsh int ip reset


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