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Just the outward faces have whatever your chosen facing stacked neatly, behind the facing the usual material us some form of coarse stone chips shovelled in.

Richard

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What are you doing with them, retaining an embankment, or containing a
blast from a vehicle bourn IED?


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I'm sure an expert on everything like you could have given me an answer if
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should they be neatly filled or does it not matter? ....

What are you doing with them, retaining an embankment, or containing a
blast from a vehicle bourn IED?


it was years ago a guy building a house had attempted to build a retaining
wall behind his house using light weight concrete blocks......I wouldn't
accept it and suggested gabions.....so he got the cages and started filling
them with all sorts of rubble and old brickwork in a very random fashion
.....so I called in out pet Engineer and he said that was
acceptable.......just didn't look right to me as every other gabion wall I
had seen had the stone nicely packed ......just asking

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What are you doing with them, retaining an embankment, or containing a
blast from a vehicle bourn IED?


it was years ago a guy building a house had attempted to build a retaining
wall behind his house using light weight concrete blocks......I wouldn't
accept it and suggested gabions.....so he got the cages and started filling
them with all sorts of rubble and old brickwork in a very random fashion
....so I called in out pet Engineer and he said that was
acceptable.......just didn't look right to me as every other gabion wall I
had seen had the stone nicely packed ......just trolling

There fixed it for you
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On 03/06/2019 13:31, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
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should they be neatly filled or does it not matter? ....

What are you doing with them, retaining an embankment, or containing a
blast from a vehicle bourn IED?


it was years ago a guy building a house had attempted to build a retaining
wall behind his house using light weight concrete blocks......I wouldn't
accept it and suggested gabions.....so he got the cages and started filling
them with all sorts of rubble and old brickwork in a very random fashion
....so I called in out pet Engineer and he said that was
acceptable.......just didn't look right to me as every other gabion wall I
had seen had the stone nicely packed ......just asking


For good appearance, the visible face does need to be neatly packed. A
mate of mine who did it reckons that significantly increases the "build
time". I do quite like the other idea of including earth too, so that
you can end up with a creeper facing.

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What are you doing with them, retaining an embankment, or containing a
blast from a vehicle bourn IED?


it was years ago a guy building a house had attempted to build a
retaining
wall behind his house using light weight concrete blocks......I wouldn't
accept it and suggested gabions.....so he got the cages and started
filling
them with all sorts of rubble and old brickwork in a very random fashion
....so I called in out pet Engineer and he said that was
acceptable.......just didn't look right to me as every other gabion wall
I
had seen had the stone nicely packed ......just asking

There fixed it for you
Ho ho

no need to get abusive just because you couldn't answer the question old man
........

In article ,
says...

I'm sure an expert on everything like you could have given
me an answer if you could have found it on google....tee hee

So, did you go through all 9 million results for 'gabion' or
jiust the 232,00 results for 'filling gabion baskets' bedore
reaching that conclusion?

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Depends where you are putting them. I usually put even stones all around
the edges and fill in the middle with whatever's left over. What's more
important from a strength and stability point of view, is that you put
tie wires from back to front and end to end.

How many of those you need is obviously dependent on the size of the
baskets you are using. I can give you more detailed intructions if you
need them.

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says...

I'm sure an expert on everything like you could have given
me an answer if you could have found it on google....tee hee

So, did you go through all 9 million results for 'gabion' or
jiust the 232,00 results for 'filling gabion baskets' bedore
reaching that conclusion?


Billy Bunter is just trolling I reckon. Seriously, has ANYONE said €œtee
hee€� since him?

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jiust the 232,00 results for 'filling gabion baskets' bedore
reaching that conclusion?

did you ? .....

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I'm sure an expert on everything like you could have given
me an answer if you could have found it on google....tee hee

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jiust the 232,00 results for 'filling gabion baskets' bedore
reaching that conclusion?


Billy Bunter is just trolling I reckon. Seriously, has ANYONE said "tee
hee" since him?

Tim

crikey ! ....

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Depends where you are putting them. I usually put even stones all around
the edges and fill in the middle with whatever's left over. What's more
important from a strength and stability point of view, is that you put tie
wires from back to front and end to end.

How many of those you need is obviously dependent on the size of the
baskets you are using. I can give you more detailed intructions if you
need them.

no that's fine thanks......

On Monday, 3 June 2019 18:58:03 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

Does anyone know what happens to a gabion retaining wall when the
steel baskets have rusted away? Is it meant to have filled up with
enough earth and vegetation by then that it just stays put, maybe
helped by interlocking stones in the fill?

John

On Monday, 3 June 2019 19:21:17 UTC+1, wrote:
On Monday, 3 June 2019 18:58:03 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

Does anyone know what happens to a gabion retaining wall when the
steel baskets have rusted away? Is it meant to have filled up with
enough earth and vegetation by then that it just stays put, maybe
helped by interlocking stones in the fill?

John

Whether it all stays put depends on the stacking arrangement & horizontal loads, plus whether deep rooted vegetation has taken hold.
That's why they're not permitted to be used as part of a house construction.


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Does anyone know what happens to a gabion retaining wall when the
steel baskets have rusted away? Is it meant to have filled up with
enough earth and vegetation by then that it just stays put, maybe
helped by interlocking stones in the fill?



it fails...50 years life...timber retaining walls have 100 years life
........

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On Monday, 3 June 2019 18:58:03 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

Does anyone know what happens to a gabion retaining wall when the
steel baskets have rusted away? Is it meant to have filled up with
enough earth and vegetation by then that it just stays put, maybe
helped by interlocking stones in the fill?



it fails...50 years life...timber retaining walls have 100 years life
.......



50 years if you buy your gabions from a good supplier. I have installed
quite a lot over a number of years on my property - mostly on a river bank.

I usually get them from a manufacturer/supplier in Shropshire -
https://www.finemeshmetals.co.uk/ - and they are perfect after a number
of years. However, a while back I needed just a couple of small ones to
finish something off and got them off Ebay. They were rusting within a
couple of years - so beware.

On 04/06/2019 08:08, Farmer Giles wrote:
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On Monday, 3 June 2019 18:58:03 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ...Â* wrote:

Does anyone know what happens to a gabion retaining wall when the
steel baskets have rusted away?Â* Is it meant to have filled up with
enough earth and vegetation by then that it just stays put, maybe
helped by interlocking stones in the fill?



it fails...50 years life...timber retaining walls have 100 years life
.......



50 years if you buy your gabions from a good supplier. I have installed
quite a lot over a number of years on my property - mostly on a river bank.

I usually get them from a manufacturer/supplier in Shropshire -
https://www.finemeshmetals.co.uk/ - and they are perfect after a number
of years. However, a while back I needed just a couple of small ones to
finish something off and got them off Ebay. They were rusting within a
couple of years - so beware.

I wonder what the price and lifetime difference is for stainless-steel?

SteveW

On 04/06/2019 10:00, Steve Walker wrote:
On 04/06/2019 08:08, Farmer Giles wrote:
On 04/06/2019 06:53, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
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On Monday, 3 June 2019 18:58:03 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ...Â* wrote:

Does anyone know what happens to a gabion retaining wall when the
steel baskets have rusted away?Â* Is it meant to have filled up with
enough earth and vegetation by then that it just stays put, maybe
helped by interlocking stones in the fill?



it fails...50 years life...timber retaining walls have 100 years life
.......



50 years if you buy your gabions from a good supplier. I have
installed quite a lot over a number of years on my property - mostly
on a river bank.

I usually get them from a manufacturer/supplier in Shropshire -
https://www.finemeshmetals.co.uk/ - and they are perfect after a
number of years. However, a while back I needed just a couple of small
ones to finish something off and got them off Ebay. They were rusting
within a couple of years - so beware.

I wonder what the price and lifetime difference is for stainless-steel?

SteveW


I have no idea, I've only ever used what they call their 'Galfan' finish
- which is supposed to last four times as long as just galvanised. Also,
the 5mm wire type would obviously last longer than the 4mm type which I
have used - but they would be more expensive.

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On Monday, 3 June 2019 18:58:03 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

Does anyone know what happens to a gabion retaining wall when the
steel baskets have rusted away? Is it meant to have filled up with
enough earth and vegetation by then that it just stays put, maybe
helped by interlocking stones in the fill?



it fails...50 years life...timber retaining walls have 100 years life
.......



50 years if you buy your gabions from a good supplier. I have installed
quite a lot over a number of years on my property - mostly on a river
bank.

I usually get them from a manufacturer/supplier in Shropshire -
https://www.finemeshmetals.co.uk/ - and they are perfect after a number
of years. However, a while back I needed just a couple of small ones to
finish something off and got them off Ebay. They were rusting within a
couple of years - so beware.

I wonder what the price and lifetime difference is for stainless-steel?

SteveW

best just using the standard galvanized ones....or plastic coated........

On 03/06/2019 11:38, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Sun, 2 Jun 2019 18:52:02 +0100, "Jim GM4DHJ ..."
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In general I thing gabions are unattractive. But they're functional.

That's Essex women.


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On Sun, 2 Jun 2019 18:52:02 +0100, "Jim GM4DHJ ..."
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should they be neatly filled or does it not matter? ....

In general I thing gabions are unattractive. But they're functional.
If I was in the position of filling gabions, I'd include quite a lot
of soil along with the stone, and into the sides I'd plant perennials
that like that situation, i.e. that like growing in walls, like good
drainage and tolerate dry conditions, to mask the stones and wire.

Soil would wash out.
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On 04/06/2019 22:21, bert wrote:
In article , Chris Hogg
writes
On Sun, 2 Jun 2019 18:52:02 +0100, "Jim GM4DHJ ..."
wrote:

should they be neatly filled or does it not matter? ....

In general I thing gabions are unattractive. But they're functional.
If I was in the position of filling gabions, I'd include quite a lot
of soil along with the stone, and into the sides I'd plant perennials
that like that situation, i.e. that like growing in walls, like good
drainage and tolerate dry conditions, to mask the stones and wire.

Soil would wash out.

No. The roots bind it


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should they be neatly filled or does it not matter? ....

In general I thing gabions are unattractive. But they're functional.

That's Essex women.


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