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"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... should they be neatly filled or does it not matter? .... google will not help you .....tee hee |
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"Jim GM4DHJ ..." Wrote in message:
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... should they be neatly filled or does it not matter? .... google will not help you .....tee hee Split personality sharing same account? Ho hee -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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"Jim K.." wrote in message o.uk... "Jim GM4DHJ ..." Wrote in message: "Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... should they be neatly filled or does it not matter? .... google will not help you .....tee hee Split personality sharing same account? Ho hee what ? .... |
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"Jim GM4DHJ ..." Wrote in message:
"Jim K.." wrote in message o.uk... "Jim GM4DHJ ..." Wrote in message: "Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... should they be neatly filled or does it not matter? .... google will not help you .....tee hee Split personality sharing same account? Ho hee what ? .... ....the F are you doing replying to your own posts ? .... Ho hee ho -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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"Jim K.." wrote in message o.uk... "Jim GM4DHJ ..." Wrote in message: "Jim K.." wrote in message o.uk... "Jim GM4DHJ ..." Wrote in message: "Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... should they be neatly filled or does it not matter? .... google will not help you .....tee hee Split personality sharing same account? Ho hee what ? .... ...the F are you doing replying to your own posts ? .... Ho hee ho and why not? .... |
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Jim K.. wrote:
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." Wrote in message: "Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... should they be neatly filled or does it not matter? .... google will not help you .....tee hee Split personality sharing same account? Ho hee Hes a trouble making troll. |
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Brian Reay Wrote in message:
Jim K.. wrote: "Jim GM4DHJ ..." Wrote in message: "Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... should they be neatly filled or does it not matter? .... google will not help you .....tee hee Split personality sharing same account? Ho hee He?s a trouble making troll. Don't flatter him! :-) -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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Just the outward faces have whatever your chosen facing stacked neatly, behind the facing the usual material us some form of coarse stone chips shovelled in.
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On 02/06/2019 18:52, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
should they be neatly filled or does it not matter? .... What are you doing with them, retaining an embankment, or containing a blast from a vehicle bourn IED? -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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"Brian Reay" wrote in message ... Jim K.. wrote: "Jim GM4DHJ ..." Wrote in message: "Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... should they be neatly filled or does it not matter? .... google will not help you .....tee hee Split personality sharing same account? Ho hee He's a trouble making troll. I'm sure an expert on everything like you could have given me an answer if you could have found it on google....tee hee |
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"John Rumm" wrote in message o.uk... On 02/06/2019 18:52, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: should they be neatly filled or does it not matter? .... What are you doing with them, retaining an embankment, or containing a blast from a vehicle bourn IED? it was years ago a guy building a house had attempted to build a retaining wall behind his house using light weight concrete blocks......I wouldn't accept it and suggested gabions.....so he got the cages and started filling them with all sorts of rubble and old brickwork in a very random fashion .....so I called in out pet Engineer and he said that was acceptable.......just didn't look right to me as every other gabion wall I had seen had the stone nicely packed ......just asking |
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"Jim GM4DHJ ..." Wrote in message:
"John Rumm" wrote in message o.uk... On 02/06/2019 18:52, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: should they be neatly filled or does it not matter? .... What are you doing with them, retaining an embankment, or containing a blast from a vehicle bourn IED? it was years ago a guy building a house had attempted to build a retaining wall behind his house using light weight concrete blocks......I wouldn't accept it and suggested gabions.....so he got the cages and started filling them with all sorts of rubble and old brickwork in a very random fashion ....so I called in out pet Engineer and he said that was acceptable.......just didn't look right to me as every other gabion wall I had seen had the stone nicely packed ......just trolling There fixed it for you Ho ho -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On 03/06/2019 13:31, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
"John Rumm" wrote in message o.uk... On 02/06/2019 18:52, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: should they be neatly filled or does it not matter? .... What are you doing with them, retaining an embankment, or containing a blast from a vehicle bourn IED? it was years ago a guy building a house had attempted to build a retaining wall behind his house using light weight concrete blocks......I wouldn't accept it and suggested gabions.....so he got the cages and started filling them with all sorts of rubble and old brickwork in a very random fashion ....so I called in out pet Engineer and he said that was acceptable.......just didn't look right to me as every other gabion wall I had seen had the stone nicely packed ......just asking For good appearance, the visible face does need to be neatly packed. A mate of mine who did it reckons that significantly increases the "build time". I do quite like the other idea of including earth too, so that you can end up with a creeper facing. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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"Jim K.." wrote in message o.uk... "Jim GM4DHJ ..." Wrote in message: "John Rumm" wrote in message o.uk... On 02/06/2019 18:52, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: should they be neatly filled or does it not matter? .... What are you doing with them, retaining an embankment, or containing a blast from a vehicle bourn IED? it was years ago a guy building a house had attempted to build a retaining wall behind his house using light weight concrete blocks......I wouldn't accept it and suggested gabions.....so he got the cages and started filling them with all sorts of rubble and old brickwork in a very random fashion ....so I called in out pet Engineer and he said that was acceptable.......just didn't look right to me as every other gabion wall I had seen had the stone nicely packed ......just asking There fixed it for you Ho ho no need to get abusive just because you couldn't answer the question old man ........ |
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On 02/06/2019 18:52, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
should they be neatly filled or does it not matter? .... Depends where you are putting them. I usually put even stones all around the edges and fill in the middle with whatever's left over. What's more important from a strength and stability point of view, is that you put tie wires from back to front and end to end. How many of those you need is obviously dependent on the size of the baskets you are using. I can give you more detailed intructions if you need them. |
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Terry Casey wrote:
In article , says... I'm sure an expert on everything like you could have given me an answer if you could have found it on google....tee hee So, did you go through all 9 million results for 'gabion' or jiust the 232,00 results for 'filling gabion baskets' bedore reaching that conclusion? Billy Bunter is just trolling I reckon. Seriously, has ANYONE said tee hee since him? Tim -- Please don't feed the trolls |
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"Terry Casey" wrote in message ... In article , says... I'm sure an expert on everything like you could have given me an answer if you could have found it on google....tee hee So, did you go through all 9 million results for 'gabion' or jiust the 232,00 results for 'filling gabion baskets' bedore reaching that conclusion? did you ? ..... |
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"Tim+" wrote in message ... Terry Casey wrote: In article , says... I'm sure an expert on everything like you could have given me an answer if you could have found it on google....tee hee So, did you go through all 9 million results for 'gabion' or jiust the 232,00 results for 'filling gabion baskets' bedore reaching that conclusion? Billy Bunter is just trolling I reckon. Seriously, has ANYONE said "tee hee" since him? Tim crikey ! .... |
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"Farmer Giles" wrote in message o.uk... On 02/06/2019 18:52, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: should they be neatly filled or does it not matter? .... Depends where you are putting them. I usually put even stones all around the edges and fill in the middle with whatever's left over. What's more important from a strength and stability point of view, is that you put tie wires from back to front and end to end. How many of those you need is obviously dependent on the size of the baskets you are using. I can give you more detailed intructions if you need them. no that's fine thanks...... |
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On Monday, 3 June 2019 18:58:03 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
Does anyone know what happens to a gabion retaining wall when the steel baskets have rusted away? Is it meant to have filled up with enough earth and vegetation by then that it just stays put, maybe helped by interlocking stones in the fill? John |
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On Monday, 3 June 2019 19:21:17 UTC+1, wrote:
On Monday, 3 June 2019 18:58:03 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: Does anyone know what happens to a gabion retaining wall when the steel baskets have rusted away? Is it meant to have filled up with enough earth and vegetation by then that it just stays put, maybe helped by interlocking stones in the fill? John Whether it all stays put depends on the stacking arrangement & horizontal loads, plus whether deep rooted vegetation has taken hold. That's why they're not permitted to be used as part of a house construction. NT |
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wrote in message ... On Monday, 3 June 2019 18:58:03 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: Does anyone know what happens to a gabion retaining wall when the steel baskets have rusted away? Is it meant to have filled up with enough earth and vegetation by then that it just stays put, maybe helped by interlocking stones in the fill? it fails...50 years life...timber retaining walls have 100 years life ........ |
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On 04/06/2019 06:53, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
wrote in message ... On Monday, 3 June 2019 18:58:03 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: Does anyone know what happens to a gabion retaining wall when the steel baskets have rusted away? Is it meant to have filled up with enough earth and vegetation by then that it just stays put, maybe helped by interlocking stones in the fill? it fails...50 years life...timber retaining walls have 100 years life ....... 50 years if you buy your gabions from a good supplier. I have installed quite a lot over a number of years on my property - mostly on a river bank. I usually get them from a manufacturer/supplier in Shropshire - https://www.finemeshmetals.co.uk/ - and they are perfect after a number of years. However, a while back I needed just a couple of small ones to finish something off and got them off Ebay. They were rusting within a couple of years - so beware. |
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On 04/06/2019 08:08, Farmer Giles wrote:
On 04/06/2019 06:53, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: wrote in message ... On Monday, 3 June 2019 18:58:03 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ...* wrote: Does anyone know what happens to a gabion retaining wall when the steel baskets have rusted away?* Is it meant to have filled up with enough earth and vegetation by then that it just stays put, maybe helped by interlocking stones in the fill? it fails...50 years life...timber retaining walls have 100 years life ....... 50 years if you buy your gabions from a good supplier. I have installed quite a lot over a number of years on my property - mostly on a river bank. I usually get them from a manufacturer/supplier in Shropshire - https://www.finemeshmetals.co.uk/ - and they are perfect after a number of years. However, a while back I needed just a couple of small ones to finish something off and got them off Ebay. They were rusting within a couple of years - so beware. I wonder what the price and lifetime difference is for stainless-steel? SteveW |
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On 04/06/2019 10:00, Steve Walker wrote:
On 04/06/2019 08:08, Farmer Giles wrote: On 04/06/2019 06:53, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: wrote in message ... On Monday, 3 June 2019 18:58:03 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ...* wrote: Does anyone know what happens to a gabion retaining wall when the steel baskets have rusted away?* Is it meant to have filled up with enough earth and vegetation by then that it just stays put, maybe helped by interlocking stones in the fill? it fails...50 years life...timber retaining walls have 100 years life ....... 50 years if you buy your gabions from a good supplier. I have installed quite a lot over a number of years on my property - mostly on a river bank. I usually get them from a manufacturer/supplier in Shropshire - https://www.finemeshmetals.co.uk/ - and they are perfect after a number of years. However, a while back I needed just a couple of small ones to finish something off and got them off Ebay. They were rusting within a couple of years - so beware. I wonder what the price and lifetime difference is for stainless-steel? SteveW I have no idea, I've only ever used what they call their 'Galfan' finish - which is supposed to last four times as long as just galvanised. Also, the 5mm wire type would obviously last longer than the 4mm type which I have used - but they would be more expensive. |
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"Steve Walker" wrote in message ... On 04/06/2019 08:08, Farmer Giles wrote: On 04/06/2019 06:53, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: wrote in message ... On Monday, 3 June 2019 18:58:03 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: Does anyone know what happens to a gabion retaining wall when the steel baskets have rusted away? Is it meant to have filled up with enough earth and vegetation by then that it just stays put, maybe helped by interlocking stones in the fill? it fails...50 years life...timber retaining walls have 100 years life ....... 50 years if you buy your gabions from a good supplier. I have installed quite a lot over a number of years on my property - mostly on a river bank. I usually get them from a manufacturer/supplier in Shropshire - https://www.finemeshmetals.co.uk/ - and they are perfect after a number of years. However, a while back I needed just a couple of small ones to finish something off and got them off Ebay. They were rusting within a couple of years - so beware. I wonder what the price and lifetime difference is for stainless-steel? SteveW best just using the standard galvanized ones....or plastic coated........ |
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On 03/06/2019 11:38, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Sun, 2 Jun 2019 18:52:02 +0100, "Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote: should they be neatly filled or does it not matter? .... In general I thing gabions are unattractive. But they're functional. That's Essex women. -- Adam |
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In article , Chris Hogg
writes On Sun, 2 Jun 2019 18:52:02 +0100, "Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote: should they be neatly filled or does it not matter? .... In general I thing gabions are unattractive. But they're functional. If I was in the position of filling gabions, I'd include quite a lot of soil along with the stone, and into the sides I'd plant perennials that like that situation, i.e. that like growing in walls, like good drainage and tolerate dry conditions, to mask the stones and wire. Soil would wash out. -- bert |
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On 04/06/2019 22:21, bert wrote:
In article , Chris Hogg writes On Sun, 2 Jun 2019 18:52:02 +0100, "Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote: should they be neatly filled or does it not matter? .... In general I thing gabions are unattractive. But they're functional. If I was in the position of filling gabions, I'd include quite a lot of soil along with the stone, and into the sides I'd plant perennials that like that situation, i.e. that like growing in walls, like good drainage and tolerate dry conditions, to mask the stones and wire. Soil would wash out. No. The roots bind it -- When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society, over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it. Frédéric Bastiat |
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"ARW" wrote in message ... On 03/06/2019 11:38, Chris Hogg wrote: On Sun, 2 Jun 2019 18:52:02 +0100, "Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote: should they be neatly filled or does it not matter? .... In general I thing gabions are unattractive. But they're functional. That's Essex women. kent shirley...... |
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