Simple question: Should the braid be connected to anything? The back of
the wall plate looks like a connector for the central copper wire plus a
clamp for the cable. does the braided sheathing need to be connected
through to the telly???

On Wednesday, 10 April 2019 18:44:26 UTC+1, TimW wrote:
Simple question: Should the braid be connected to anything? The back of
the wall plate looks like a connector for the central copper wire plus a
clamp for the cable. does the braided sheathing need to be connected
through to the telly???

The clamp goes onto the braid, ie the outer sheath has to be removed.
Make sure the braid doesn't short onto the central solid wire.

In article 29f185cd-5f7e-4dfb-9f58-
,
says...

On Wednesday, 10 April 2019 18:44:26 UTC+1, TimW wrote:
Simple question: Should the braid be connected to anything? The back of
the wall plate looks like a connector for the central copper wire plus a
clamp for the cable. does the braided sheathing need to be connected
through to the telly???

The clamp goes onto the braid, ie the outer sheath has to be removed.
Make sure the braid doesn't short onto the central solid wire.

No!

Strip back the outer sheath then fold the braid back over the
sheath - you may have to partially or totally unravel it -
and place both the braid AND sheath together under the clamp.

If the cable also has a copper foil screen, rather than a
bonded aluminium one, tear it off so that it can't get in the
wrong place.

The clamp performs two function, one physical and one
electrical.

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On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 19:40:29 +0100, Terry Casey
wrote:

snip

Strip back the outer sheath then fold the braid back over the
sheath - you may have to partially or totally unravel it -
and place both the braid AND sheath together under the clamp.

If the cable also has a copper foil screen, rather than a
bonded aluminium one, tear it off so that it can't get in the
wrong place.

The clamp performs two function, one physical and one
electrical.

+1

Cheers, T i m

On Wednesday, 10 April 2019 19:40:32 UTC+1, Terry Casey wrote:
In article 29f185cd-5f7e-4dfb-9f58-
,
says...

On Wednesday, 10 April 2019 18:44:26 UTC+1, TimW wrote:
Simple question: Should the braid be connected to anything? The back of
the wall plate looks like a connector for the central copper wire plus a
clamp for the cable. does the braided sheathing need to be connected
through to the telly???

The clamp goes onto the braid, ie the outer sheath has to be removed.
Make sure the braid doesn't short onto the central solid wire.

No!

Strip back the outer sheath then fold the braid back over the
sheath - you may have to partially or totally unravel it -
and place both the braid AND sheath together under the clamp.

If the cable also has a copper foil screen, rather than a
bonded aluminium one, tear it off so that it can't get in the
wrong place.

The clamp performs two function, one physical and one
electrical.

--
Drivel.
The cable is not subject to mechanical stress as it's behind the wall plate.

On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 22:45:30 -0700 (PDT), harry
wrote:

On Wednesday, 10 April 2019 19:40:32 UTC+1, Terry Casey wrote:
In article 29f185cd-5f7e-4dfb-9f58-
,
says...

On Wednesday, 10 April 2019 18:44:26 UTC+1, TimW wrote:
Simple question: Should the braid be connected to anything? The back of
the wall plate looks like a connector for the central copper wire plus a
clamp for the cable. does the braided sheathing need to be connected
through to the telly???

The clamp goes onto the braid, ie the outer sheath has to be removed.
Make sure the braid doesn't short onto the central solid wire.

No!

Strip back the outer sheath then fold the braid back over the
sheath - you may have to partially or totally unravel it -
and place both the braid AND sheath together under the clamp.

If the cable also has a copper foil screen, rather than a
bonded aluminium one, tear it off so that it can't get in the
wrong place.

The clamp performs two function, one physical and one
electrical.

--
Drivel.

Is it ... IYHO of course!

The cable is not subject to mechanical stress as it's behind the wall plate.

So, between the faceplate being off and back in place, there is no
chance any strain could be put on the inner conductor (if the clamp
wasn't providing any mechanical support)?

Or if someone pulls the cable from the other end ... ?

What you meant was in 'harry's world' (... Imagine how sad / sick a
place that would be if it was a Theme Park ...) you couldn't imagine
any circumstances where making sure the mechanical clamp was as good
as possible would be a 'good idea'?

Cheers, T i m

On Thursday, 11 April 2019 07:48:46 UTC+1, T i m wrote:
On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 22:45:30 -0700 (PDT), harry
wrote:

On Wednesday, 10 April 2019 19:40:32 UTC+1, Terry Casey wrote:
In article 29f185cd-5f7e-4dfb-9f58-
,
says...

On Wednesday, 10 April 2019 18:44:26 UTC+1, TimW wrote:
Simple question: Should the braid be connected to anything? The back of
the wall plate looks like a connector for the central copper wire plus a
clamp for the cable. does the braided sheathing need to be connected
through to the telly???

The clamp goes onto the braid, ie the outer sheath has to be removed.
Make sure the braid doesn't short onto the central solid wire.

No!

Strip back the outer sheath then fold the braid back over the
sheath - you may have to partially or totally unravel it -
and place both the braid AND sheath together under the clamp.

If the cable also has a copper foil screen, rather than a
bonded aluminium one, tear it off so that it can't get in the
wrong place.

The clamp performs two function, one physical and one
electrical.

--
Drivel.

Is it ... IYHO of course!

The cable is not subject to mechanical stress as it's behind the wall plate.

So, between the faceplate being off and back in place, there is no
chance any strain could be put on the inner conductor (if the clamp
wasn't providing any mechanical support)?

Or if someone pulls the cable from the other end ... ?

What you meant was in 'harry's world' (... Imagine how sad / sick a
place that would be if it was a Theme Park ...) you couldn't imagine
any circumstances where making sure the mechanical clamp was as good
as possible would be a 'good idea'?


So why don't they have a cable grip on the incomer(s) of a 13a socket?

The consequences of an aerial cable coming loose are trivial anyway.

On 11/04/2019 06:45, harry wrote:

Drivel.
The cable is not subject to mechanical stress as it's behind the wall plate.


It's probably bent at an angle that is trying to pull it out of the clamp.

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On 11/04/2019 08:30, alan_m wrote:
On 11/04/2019 06:45, harry wrote:

Drivel.
The cable is not subject to mechanical stress as it's behind the wall
plate.


It's probably bent at an angle that is trying to pull it out of the clamp.


Its the wrong wall plate then.
The minimum radius on coax is quite large.
If its TV it matters less than for sat.

On 11/04/2019 06:45, harry wrote:

The clamp performs two function, one physical and one
electrical.

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Drivel.
The cable is not subject to mechanical stress as it's behind the wall plate.


Dribble yourself Harry! It's much easier to put the wallplate into
position if the cables are secured to it firmly. Also, if the outer
sheath doesn't reach the braid clamp the dielectric can deform as the
plate is fitted, causing an impedance bump.

Bill

On Thursday, 11 April 2019 14:03:53 UTC+1, Bill Wright wrote:
On 11/04/2019 06:45, harry wrote:

The clamp performs two function, one physical and one
electrical.

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Drivel.
The cable is not subject to mechanical stress as it's behind the wall plate.


Dribble yourself Harry! It's much easier to put the wallplate into
position if the cables are secured to it firmly. Also, if the outer
sheath doesn't reach the braid clamp the dielectric can deform as the
plate is fitted, causing an impedance bump.

Bill

https://www.aerialsandtv.com/_wp_gen...9d9f_01_1a.jpg

In article ,
harry wrote:
On Wednesday, 10 April 2019 19:40:32 UTC+1, Terry Casey wrote:
In article 29f185cd-5f7e-4dfb-9f58-
,
says...

On Wednesday, 10 April 2019 18:44:26 UTC+1, TimW wrote:
Simple question: Should the braid be connected to anything? The back of
the wall plate looks like a connector for the central copper wire plus a
clamp for the cable. does the braided sheathing need to be connected
through to the telly???

The clamp goes onto the braid, ie the outer sheath has to be removed.
Make sure the braid doesn't short onto the central solid wire.

No!

Strip back the outer sheath then fold the braid back over the
sheath - you may have to partially or totally unravel it -
and place both the braid AND sheath together under the clamp.

If the cable also has a copper foil screen, rather than a
bonded aluminium one, tear it off so that it can't get in the
wrong place.

The clamp performs two function, one physical and one
electrical.

--
Drivel. The cable is not subject to mechanical stress as it's behind the
wall plate.

It almosr certainly will be when the plate is secured to the wall box.

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TimW wrote

Simple question: Should the braid be connected to anything?

Yep. to the metal outer of the socket.

The back of the wall plate looks like a connector for the
central copper wire plus a clamp for the cable. does the
braided sheathing need to be connected through to the telly???

Yep.

On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 05:28:12 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


Yep.

LOL

Yep.

LOL

Are you drugged or what, you pathological auto-contradicting asshole? LOL

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On Wednesday, 10 April 2019 18:44:26 UTC+1, TimW wrote:
Simple question: Should the braid be connected to anything?

yes, otherwise it'll amplify your bile. Or something like that.

Of course it does, they don't just put it there to annoy people trying not
to short it out you know. I think if you have to ask such a question you
might not be the best person to wire up aerials.
Brian

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"TimW" wrote in message
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Simple question: Should the braid be connected to anything? The back of
the wall plate looks like a connector for the central copper wire plus a
clamp for the cable. does the braided sheathing need to be connected
through to the telly???

On 11/04/2019 08:50, Brian Gaff wrote:
....you
might not be the best person to wire up aerials.
Brian


True

In article ,
TimW wrote:
Simple question: Should the braid be connected to anything? The back of
the wall plate looks like a connector for the central copper wire plus a
clamp for the cable. does the braided sheathing need to be connected
through to the telly???

The braid goes under the clamp.

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On 10/04/2019 18:44, TimW wrote:
Simple question: Should the braid be connected to anything? The back of
the wall plate looks like a connector for the central copper wire plus a
clamp for the cable. does the braided sheathing need to be connected
through to the telly???

http://www.satcure.co.uk/tech/wall_plates.htm

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