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What's this pipe?
15mm Copper pipe stub comes out of concrete floor & is capped. Tracing it is therefore not practical. Question is, what plumbing circuit is it part of? CW, HW, gas, CH primary? Is there any way to find out other than the messy way?
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On 06/04/2019 01:38, wrote:
15mm Copper pipe stub comes out of concrete floor & is capped. Tracing it is therefore not practical. Question is, what plumbing circuit is it part of? CW, HW, gas, CH primary? Is there any way to find out other than the messy way? Press stick against it and an ear, if water you would hear flow when a tap is run or the CH etc. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On Saturday, 6 April 2019 03:34:39 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
On 06/04/2019 01:38, tabbypurr wrote: 15mm Copper pipe stub comes out of concrete floor & is capped. Tracing it is therefore not practical. Question is, what plumbing circuit is it part of? CW, HW, gas, CH primary? Is there any way to find out other than the messy way? Press stick against it and an ear, if water you would hear flow when a tap is run or the CH etc. Aha, will try that when next there. Thank you. NT |
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If it is a single pipe it is unlikely to be part of the CH more likely a cold feed. If the room had another purpose before then that might be a clue. Our last house had an external washroom with its own cold water supply when originally built in 1957. A kitchen extension was later built over the site of the wash room so we ended up with two stopcocks one in the extension the other in what used to be the kitchen in the main house.
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On Saturday, 6 April 2019 10:00:58 UTC+1, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
tabbypurr wrote : 15mm Copper pipe stub comes out of concrete floor & is capped. Tracing it is therefore not practical. Question is, what plumbing circuit is it part of? CW, HW, gas, CH primary? Is there any way to find out other than the messy way? Metal detector might allow you to trace its route in the concrete back to the source, assuming the concrete has no reinforcement and the pipe isn't too deep. It's next to a bunch of pipes carrying everything there is in the property, so that wouldn't work this time. I reckon an ear test is the one option that probably will. NT |
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Probably Gass if its near a hearth?
I had one of those but when I had gas taken out I had it cut off at floor level. Idiot idea to feed it through the e concrete hearth in the first place. Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! wrote in message ... 15mm Copper pipe stub comes out of concrete floor & is capped. Tracing it is therefore not practical. Question is, what plumbing circuit is it part of? CW, HW, gas, CH primary? Is there any way to find out other than the messy way? NT |
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I also have a couple of pipes in my sitting room both originally went to the
back boiler tank when there was an open fire, but its been drained from a little stopcock behind a skirting board. I wonder if you could modify a continuity tester to see where it goes. Of course if it goes everywhere with little resistance that might be pointless, but if its just an orphan it should show that by not connecting to anything. Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! wrote in message ... On Saturday, 6 April 2019 03:34:39 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote: On 06/04/2019 01:38, tabbypurr wrote: 15mm Copper pipe stub comes out of concrete floor & is capped. Tracing it is therefore not practical. Question is, what plumbing circuit is it part of? CW, HW, gas, CH primary? Is there any way to find out other than the messy way? Press stick against it and an ear, if water you would hear flow when a tap is run or the CH etc. Aha, will try that when next there. Thank you. NT |
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On 06/04/2019 10:27, Brian Gaff wrote:
Probably Gass if its near a hearth? I had one of those but when I had gas taken out I had it cut off at floor level. Why did you have the gas taken out? Isn't it the most economical way to heat rooms, water and perhaps cook as well? (And it annoys the greenies as burning it produces CO2 g) -- Max Demian |
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On Saturday, 6 April 2019 10:29:31 UTC+1, dennis@home wrote:
On 06/04/2019 10:22, tabbypurr wrote: On Saturday, 6 April 2019 10:00:58 UTC+1, Harry Bloomfield wrote: tabbypurr wrote : 15mm Copper pipe stub comes out of concrete floor & is capped. Tracing it is therefore not practical. Question is, what plumbing circuit is it part of? CW, HW, gas, CH primary? Is there any way to find out other than the messy way? Metal detector might allow you to trace its route in the concrete back to the source, assuming the concrete has no reinforcement and the pipe isn't too deep. It's next to a bunch of pipes carrying everything there is in the property, so that wouldn't work this time. I reckon an ear test is the one option that probably will. NT Anyone with the engineering knowledge you have could use a long wire and a continuity tester to find the other end. All the pipes are of course soldered, clamped & then bonded together via the CH, main bonding & equipotential bonding. So how would you do it with a bit of wire? NT |
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On Sat, 6 Apr 2019 11:07:40 +0100, Max Demian
wrote: On 06/04/2019 10:27, Brian Gaff wrote: Probably Gass if its near a hearth? I had one of those but when I had gas taken out I had it cut off at floor level. Why did you have the gas taken out? Isn't it the most economical way to heat rooms, water and perhaps cook as well? (And it annoys the greenies as burning it produces CO2 g) I have a capped gas pipe in my hall cupboard. Gas was taken out when my mother bought the house to prevent it exploding! When a gas leak was smelt around the paths to my and my neighbour's front door I asked the investigator to see if it was coming from my old pipe. However when uncapped it was dead, and my neighbour's pipe was the culprit. -- Dave W |
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On 06/04/2019 11:15, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
wrote : It's next to a bunch of pipes carrying everything there is in the property, so that wouldn't work this time. I reckon an ear test is the one option that probably will. Turn the water off and the gas, then try removing the blanking plug carefully, to see what's inside the pipe. Smell, if gas should be obvious, if static water filed probably a mains cw feed, if it tries to leak it is central heating. Has the OP said that there is a blanking plug? -- Adam |
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on 06/04/2019, ARW supposed :
On 06/04/2019 11:15, Harry Bloomfield wrote: wrote : It's next to a bunch of pipes carrying everything there is in the property, so that wouldn't work this time. I reckon an ear test is the one option that probably will. Turn the water off and the gas, then try removing the blanking plug carefully, to see what's inside the pipe. Smell, if gas should be obvious, if static water filed probably a mains cw feed, if it tries to leak it is central heating. Has the OP said that there is a blanking plug? It would be a fair assumption that it has not been left wide open. OP - is the pipe open at the end? |
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On 06/04/2019 15:48, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
on 06/04/2019, ARW supposed : On 06/04/2019 11:15, Harry Bloomfield wrote: wrote : It's next to a bunch of pipes carrying everything there is in the property, so that wouldn't work this time. I reckon an ear test is the one option that probably will. Turn the water off and the gas, then try removing the blanking plug carefully, to see what's inside the pipe. Smell, if gas should be obvious, if static water filed probably a mains cw feed, if it tries to leak it is central heating. Has the OP said that there is a blanking plug? It would be a fair assumption that it has not been left wide open. OP - is the pipe open at the end? Or have a soldered end cap? -- Adam |
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On Sat, 06 Apr 2019 15:48:47 +0100, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
on 06/04/2019, ARW supposed : On 06/04/2019 11:15, Harry Bloomfield wrote: wrote : It's next to a bunch of pipes carrying everything there is in the property, so that wouldn't work this time. I reckon an ear test is the one option that probably will. Turn the water off and the gas, then try removing the blanking plug carefully, to see what's inside the pipe. Smell, if gas should be obvious, if static water filed probably a mains cw feed, if it tries to leak it is central heating. Has the OP said that there is a blanking plug? It would be a fair assumption that it has not been left wide open. OP - is the pipe open at the end? He says it's capped. -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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ARW wrote:
On 06/04/2019 15:48, Harry Bloomfield wrote: on 06/04/2019, ARW supposed : On 06/04/2019 11:15, Harry Bloomfield wrote: wrote : It's next to a bunch of pipes carrying everything there is in the property, so that wouldn't work this time. I reckon an ear test is the one option that probably will. Turn the water off and the gas, then try removing the blanking plug carefully, to see what's inside the pipe. Smell, if gas should be obvious, if static water filed probably a mains cw feed, if it tries to leak it is central heating. Has the OP said that there is a blanking plug? It would be a fair assumption that it has not been left wide open. OP - is the pipe open at the end? Or have a soldered end cap? You can usually get soldered end caps off if there is not too much water around. or cut the pipe. The only technique that will make it impossible iwithout excavation s folded, beaten flat and soldered near the concrete. -- Roger Hayter |
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dennis@home wrote :
Its not exactly difficult to work it out. Go on then, we are all waiting for the solution a solution which doesn't require specialised equipment micro-ohm meters. |
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On 06/04/2019 15:48, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
on 06/04/2019, ARW supposed : On 06/04/2019 11:15, Harry Bloomfield wrote: wrote : It's next to a bunch of pipes carrying everything there is in the property, so that wouldn't work this time. I reckon an ear test is the one option that probably will. Turn the water off and the gas, then try removing the blanking plug carefully, to see what's inside the pipe. Smell, if gas should be obvious, if static water filed probably a mains cw feed, if it tries to leak it is central heating. Has the OP said that there is a blanking plug? It would be a fair assumption that it has not been left wide open. OP - is the pipe open at the end? First sentence of the original question - "15mm Copper pipe stub comes out of concrete floor & is capped." SteveW |
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Steve Walker formulated the question :
First sentence of the original question - "15mm Copper pipe stub comes out of concrete floor & is capped." Thanks.. |
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On 06/04/2019 22:30, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
dennis@home wrote : Its not exactly difficult to work it out. Go on then, we are all waiting for the solution a solution which doesn't require specialised equipment micro-ohm meters. Well you could start by temporary disconnecting the bonding. |
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On Saturday, 6 April 2019 20:54:18 UTC+1, dennis@home wrote:
On 06/04/2019 12:45, tabbypurr wrote: On Saturday, 6 April 2019 10:29:31 UTC+1, dennis@home wrote: On 06/04/2019 10:22, tabbypurr wrote: On Saturday, 6 April 2019 10:00:58 UTC+1, Harry Bloomfield wrote: tabbypurr wrote : 15mm Copper pipe stub comes out of concrete floor & is capped. Tracing it is therefore not practical. Question is, what plumbing circuit is it part of? CW, HW, gas, CH primary? Is there any way to find out other than the messy way? Metal detector might allow you to trace its route in the concrete back to the source, assuming the concrete has no reinforcement and the pipe isn't too deep. It's next to a bunch of pipes carrying everything there is in the property, so that wouldn't work this time. I reckon an ear test is the one option that probably will. NT Anyone with the engineering knowledge you have could use a long wire and a continuity tester to find the other end. All the pipes are of course soldered, clamped & then bonded together via the CH, main bonding & equipotential bonding. So how would you do it with a bit of wire? NT Its not exactly difficult to work it out. then you can tell us. |
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On Saturday, 6 April 2019 23:32:42 UTC+1, dennis@home wrote:
On 06/04/2019 22:30, Harry Bloomfield wrote: dennis@home wrote : Its not exactly difficult to work it out. Go on then, we are all waiting for the solution a solution which doesn't require specialised equipment micro-ohm meters. Well you could start by temporary disconnecting the bonding. that won't help much. Come on, tell us how to do it with a bit of wire. NT |
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On Saturday, 6 April 2019 21:38:22 UTC+1, Roger Hayter wrote:
ARW wrote: On 06/04/2019 15:48, Harry Bloomfield wrote: on 06/04/2019, ARW supposed : On 06/04/2019 11:15, Harry Bloomfield wrote: tabbypurr wrote : It's next to a bunch of pipes carrying everything there is in the property, so that wouldn't work this time. I reckon an ear test is the one option that probably will. Turn the water off and the gas, then try removing the blanking plug carefully, to see what's inside the pipe. Smell, if gas should be obvious, if static water filed probably a mains cw feed, if it tries to leak it is central heating. Has the OP said that there is a blanking plug? It would be a fair assumption that it has not been left wide open. OP - is the pipe open at the end? Or have a soldered end cap? You can usually get soldered end caps off if there is not too much water around. or cut the pipe. The only technique that will make it impossible iwithout excavation s folded, beaten flat and soldered near the concrete. That's certainly not the only way to make it impossible If removing the cap were practical I'd not have asked. NT |
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"ARW" wrote in message ... On 06/04/2019 11:15, Harry Bloomfield wrote: wrote : It's next to a bunch of pipes carrying everything there is in the property, so that wouldn't work this time. I reckon an ear test is the one option that probably will. Turn the water off and the gas, then try removing the blanking plug carefully, to see what's inside the pipe. Smell, if gas should be obvious, if static water filed probably a mains cw feed, if it tries to leak it is central heating. Has the OP said that there is a blanking plug? Yes he did. 15mm Copper pipe stub comes out of concrete floor & is capped. |
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On 06/04/2019 23:32, dennis@home wrote:
On 06/04/2019 22:30, Harry Bloomfield wrote: dennis@home wrote : Its not exactly difficult to work it out. Go on then, we are all waiting for the solution a solution which doesn't require specialised equipment micro-ohm meters. Well you could start by temporary disconnecting the bonding. Like **** it would. It would be easier to shove your brain down the 15mm pipe and see where it pops up. -- Adam |
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"Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message ... on 06/04/2019, ARW supposed : On 06/04/2019 11:15, Harry Bloomfield wrote: wrote : It's next to a bunch of pipes carrying everything there is in the property, so that wouldn't work this time. I reckon an ear test is the one option that probably will. Turn the water off and the gas, then try removing the blanking plug carefully, to see what's inside the pipe. Smell, if gas should be obvious, if static water filed probably a mains cw feed, if it tries to leak it is central heating. Has the OP said that there is a blanking plug? It would be a fair assumption that it has not been left wide open. OP - is the pipe open at the end? He said it isnt. |
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On 07/04/2019 01:23, Rod Speed wrote:
"ARW" wrote in message ... On 06/04/2019 11:15, Harry Bloomfield wrote: wrote : It's next to a bunch of pipes carrying everything there is in the property, so that wouldn't work this time. I reckon an ear test is the one option that probably will. Turn the water off and the gas, then try removing the blanking plug carefully, to see what's inside the pipe. Smell, if gas should be obvious, if static water filed probably a mains cw feed, if it tries to leak it is central heating. Has the OP said that there is a blanking plug? Yes he did. 15mm Copper pipe stub comes out of concrete floor & is capped. Capped does not mean a blanking plug. -- Adam |
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More Heavy Trolling by Senile Nym-Shifting Rot Speed!
On Sun, 7 Apr 2019 10:34:08 +1000, Jac Brown, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rot Speed, wrote: OP - is the pipe open at the end? He said it isnt. That was already answered, you senile pest! Just what in hell makes you believe an answer only is valid when YOU confirm it additionally, you self-important, self-opinionated senile asshole? No wonder you got NOBODY in real life to talk to, cretin! -- Bill Wright addressing senile Ozzie cretin Rot Speed: "Well you make up a lot of stuff and it's total ******** most of it." MID: |
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On Sunday, 7 April 2019 09:45:15 UTC+1, dennis@home wrote:
On 07/04/2019 00:59, tabbypurr wrote: On Saturday, 6 April 2019 20:54:18 UTC+1, dennis@home wrote: On 06/04/2019 12:45, tabbypurr wrote: On Saturday, 6 April 2019 10:29:31 UTC+1, dennis@home wrote: On 06/04/2019 10:22, tabbypurr wrote: On Saturday, 6 April 2019 10:00:58 UTC+1, Harry Bloomfield wrote: tabbypurr wrote : 15mm Copper pipe stub comes out of concrete floor & is capped. Tracing it is therefore not practical. Question is, what plumbing circuit is it part of? CW, HW, gas, CH primary? Is there any way to find out other than the messy way? Metal detector might allow you to trace its route in the concrete back to the source, assuming the concrete has no reinforcement and the pipe isn't too deep. It's next to a bunch of pipes carrying everything there is in the property, so that wouldn't work this time. I reckon an ear test is the one option that probably will. NT Anyone with the engineering knowledge you have could use a long wire and a continuity tester to find the other end. All the pipes are of course soldered, clamped & then bonded together via the CH, main bonding & equipotential bonding. So how would you do it with a bit of wire? NT Its not exactly difficult to work it out. then you can tell us. Well the first thing it will tell you before you disconnect anything is if its connected to any other pipe work which is the first step. Now I will let you continue with step two if it doesn't read anything or if it does read something. It's connected. It wouldn't be there if it wasn't. What is your step 2 with this bit of wire? NT |
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On 06/04/2019 11:07, Max Demian wrote:
On 06/04/2019 10:27, Brian Gaff wrote: Probably Gass if its near a hearth? I had one of those but when I had gas taken outÂ* I had it cut off at floor level. Why did you have the gas taken out? Isn't it the most economical way to heat rooms, water and perhaps cook as well? Its not uncommon to remove gas fires and cap off their feeds when CH is installed though. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 08/04/2019 12:20, John Rumm wrote:
On 06/04/2019 11:07, Max Demian wrote: On 06/04/2019 10:27, Brian Gaff wrote: I had one of those but when I had gas taken outÂ* I had it cut off at floor level. Why did you have the gas taken out? Isn't it the most economical way to heat rooms, water and perhaps cook as well? Its not uncommon to remove gas fires and cap off their feeds when CH is installed though. Yes but Brian uses storage heaters. I don't know whether he had gas central heating before. -- Max Demian |
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