Dave W wrote:
On Sat, 30 Mar 2019 08:48:55 +1100, "Jac Brown"
wrote:



"Tekkie®" wrote in message
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Jac Brown posted for all of us...



Got one of these
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0mcpg949t9..._2208.JPG?dl=0
with a badly damaged philips screw head which I can't get out of here.
https://youtu.be/XlYNf101RJ0?tV

The thing is entirely plastic in two parts. I don't care about wrecking
the
whole screw and what it goes into because I am happy to replace it.

I'd normally just grab the head with some mole grips etc but
cant get the screw unscrewed enough to get a grip on the head,
No easy access to cut a slot in the head and use a flat screw driver.
Guess it might be feasible with a dremel with a cutting disk. I have
both.

My initial thought was a screw extractor/easy out but the don't really
go small enough. The threaded part is only 5.5mm thick. The smallest
screw extractor is listed as 3mm which might well work with a hole
drilled into where the philips slots used to be.

The other possibility is to glue a plastic rod to the head but I don't
have a rod of the same plastic and there is no obvious way to work
out what the plastic is to order a rod of the same plastic and glue.
Is one particular type of plastic normally used on those things ?

I guess superglue and metal rod might work.

Any other alternative I might be having a brain fart about before
I order the smallest screw extractor ?

Not urgent, there is some problem with the windscreen washer
bottle that means it holds very little water but its fine to do
without a washer for a month or two while the extractor arrives.

Jam a small screwdriver or pick under the screw head while turning the
screw

That wont work, its recessed.

or do a reacharound and clip it off with a dyke.

That doesn't work either, again because its recessed.

Drilling it out should work when I charge up one the
cordless drills. The mains powered drills are all too long
with the car on the jack. I don't have access to a hoist.

As someone else said, it's not a screw.

Then why is it threaded and have a crosshead on it??

Its a fecking screw. You can get fasteners with a smooth sided pin that
you push in to expand the legs but this one clearly has a plastic screw to
wind in to expand them.

Cant you see the threads?


The whole thing was inserted
into the hole, then the top part pushed down to expand the bottom bits
bigger than the hole they went through.

Not this one.

If you try to turn the 'screw' it will just keep rotating without
allowing the bottom bits to contract.

Why would a pin have a crosshead to turn it to no effect?

Tim

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"Dave W" wrote in message
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On Sat, 30 Mar 2019 08:48:55 +1100, "Jac Brown"
wrote:



"Tekkie®" wrote in message
...
Jac Brown posted for all of us...



Got one of these
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0mcpg949t9..._2208.JPG?dl=0
with a badly damaged philips screw head which I can't get out of here.
https://youtu.be/XlYNf101RJ0?t=56

The thing is entirely plastic in two parts. I don't care about wrecking
the
whole screw and what it goes into because I am happy to replace it.

I'd normally just grab the head with some mole grips etc but
cant get the screw unscrewed enough to get a grip on the head,
No easy access to cut a slot in the head and use a flat screw driver.
Guess it might be feasible with a dremel with a cutting disk. I have
both.

My initial thought was a screw extractor/easy out but the don't really
go small enough. The threaded part is only 5.5mm thick. The smallest
screw extractor is listed as 3mm which might well work with a hole
drilled into where the philips slots used to be.

The other possibility is to glue a plastic rod to the head but I don't
have a rod of the same plastic and there is no obvious way to work
out what the plastic is to order a rod of the same plastic and glue.
Is one particular type of plastic normally used on those things ?

I guess superglue and metal rod might work.

Any other alternative I might be having a brain fart about before
I order the smallest screw extractor ?

Not urgent, there is some problem with the windscreen washer
bottle that means it holds very little water but its fine to do
without a washer for a month or two while the extractor arrives.

Jam a small screwdriver or pick under the screw head while turning the
screw

That wont work, its recessed.

or do a reacharound and clip it off with a dyke.

That doesn't work either, again because its recessed.

Drilling it out should work when I charge up one the
cordless drills. The mains powered drills are all too long
with the car on the jack. I don't have access to a hoist.

As someone else said, it's not a screw.

Yes it is you can see the thread if you zoom in.

The whole thing was inserted into the hole, then
the top part pushed down to expand the bottom
bits bigger than the hole they went through.

It works like that when you SCREW the screw in.

If you try to turn the 'screw' it will just keep rotating
without allowing the bottom bits to contract.

Its brother close to it unscrewed fine, that's the one in the photo.

As it's only plastic, I would try putting a screwdriver
into it, then giving the screwdriver a hearty whack
with a hammer to break the head of the 'screw'.

That will just bend the small metal tab that the whole thing goes into.

On Sun, 31 Mar 2019 06:21:10 +1100, Jac Brown, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rot Speed, wrote:


It works like that when you SCREW the screw in.

I'd love to SCREW a screw deep into your senile head, Rot!

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"**** you're thick/pathetic excuse for a troll."
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Jac Brown wrote:


"Dave W" wrote in message
news
On Sat, 30 Mar 2019 08:48:55 +1100, "Jac Brown"
wrote:



"Tekkie®" wrote in message
...
Jac Brown posted for all of us...



Got one of these
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0mcpg949t9..._2208.JPG?dl=0
with a badly damaged philips screw head which I can't get out of here.
https://youtu.be/XlYNf101RJ0?t=56

The thing is entirely plastic in two parts. I don't care about wrecking
the
whole screw and what it goes into because I am happy to replace it.

I'd normally just grab the head with some mole grips etc but
cant get the screw unscrewed enough to get a grip on the head,
No easy access to cut a slot in the head and use a flat screw driver.
Guess it might be feasible with a dremel with a cutting disk. I have
both.

My initial thought was a screw extractor/easy out but the don't really
go small enough. The threaded part is only 5.5mm thick. The smallest
screw extractor is listed as 3mm which might well work with a hole
drilled into where the philips slots used to be.

The other possibility is to glue a plastic rod to the head but I don't
have a rod of the same plastic and there is no obvious way to work
out what the plastic is to order a rod of the same plastic and glue.
Is one particular type of plastic normally used on those things ?

I guess superglue and metal rod might work.

Any other alternative I might be having a brain fart about before
I order the smallest screw extractor ?

Not urgent, there is some problem with the windscreen washer
bottle that means it holds very little water but its fine to do
without a washer for a month or two while the extractor arrives.

Jam a small screwdriver or pick under the screw head while turning the
screw

That wont work, its recessed.

or do a reacharound and clip it off with a dyke.

That doesn't work either, again because its recessed.

Drilling it out should work when I charge up one the
cordless drills. The mains powered drills are all too long
with the car on the jack. I don't have access to a hoist.

As someone else said, it's not a screw.

Yes it is you can see the thread if you zoom in.

The whole thing was inserted into the hole, then
the top part pushed down to expand the bottom
bits bigger than the hole they went through.

It works like that when you SCREW the screw in.

If you try to turn the 'screw' it will just keep rotating
without allowing the bottom bits to contract.

Its brother close to it unscrewed fine, that's the one in the photo.

As it's only plastic, I would try putting a screwdriver
into it, then giving the screwdriver a hearty whack
with a hammer to break the head of the 'screw'.

That will just bend the small metal tab that the whole thing goes into.


Heat a screwdriver up over a flame and €œmelt€� it into the screw. Wait a
short while for it to cool enough then unscrew.

Tim



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On 03/30/2019 11:35 AM, Tim+ wrote:
Its a fecking screw. You can get fasteners with a smooth sided pin that
you push in to expand the legs but this one clearly has a plastic screw to
wind in to expand them.

With many of those you push the pin in further to release them. They are
reusable after you reset the pin.

On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 14:06:01 +0000, Peter Parry
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 10:01:13 +0000, Andy Burns
wrote:

Peter Parry wrote:

It isn't a screw but a push fit device

Suggest you zoom in further ...

Try a Goggle image search for push fit wheel arch panel fastener for
hundreds of the things.
https://www.dhgate.com/product/121-a...214447682.html

Shows one, they are all push fit for speed of assembly.

I've just been told off for backing you up, but your link shows a
proper screw thread. The title includes the words "screw push-in", but
I would say that means you push it in then screw it.
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Dave W