Overheard someone talking to someone that was going to supply her a temporary vehicle. She was very concerned that the car should be at least a 2.0 as she intends to dive on the motorway.

I assume they offered a beemer, because she said

€œI dont know anything about BMWs I drive a Jaguar..
I dont know if they can be driven on the motorway.€�


How the other half lives! I used to take my 1.0 Metros from London to Preston & back on the motorway on a regular basis (leaving Jaguars and BMs eating my lead!)

On 13/02/2019 12:27, wrote:
Overheard someone talking to someone that was going to supply her a temporary vehicle. She was very concerned that the car should be at least a 2.0 as she intends to dive on the motorway.

I assume they offered a beemer, because she said

€œI dont know anything about BMWs I drive a Jaguar.
I dont know if they can be driven on the motorway.€�


How the other half lives! I used to take my 1.0 Metros from London to Preston & back on the motorway on a regular basis (leaving Jaguars and BMs eating my lead!)


Ah yes!
Push the throttle down as far as it will go and keep it there. Turn the
stereo cassette player up loud enough to hear over the noise and leave
that there too. About 90 on the flat, slowing to 70 or less if it's up
hill. It was a Renault5 for me, when I could get it started. Back and
forth on the M3 and M4.
TW

Actually my neighbour had a Metro and boy could that thing move. The speedo
kind of just hit the end and after that it was guesswork. Only problem with
it was that it tended to be full of rust even when new.

Brian

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On 13/02/2019 12:27, wrote:
Overheard someone talking to someone that was going to supply her a
temporary vehicle. She was very concerned that the car should be at
least a 2.0 as she intends to dive on the motorway.

I assume they offered a beemer, because she said

"I don't know anything about BMW's I drive a Jaguar.
I don't know if they can be driven on the motorway."


How the other half lives! I used to take my 1.0 Metros from London to
Preston & back on the motorway on a regular basis (leaving Jaguars and
BMs eating my lead!)


Ah yes!
Push the throttle down as far as it will go and keep it there. Turn the
stereo cassette player up loud enough to hear over the noise and leave
that there too. About 90 on the flat, slowing to 70 or less if it's up
hill. It was a Renault5 for me, when I could get it started. Back and
forth on the M3 and M4.
TW

In article ,
Brian Gaff wrote:
Actually my neighbour had a Metro and boy could that thing move. The
speedo kind of just hit the end and after that it was guesswork. Only
problem with it was that it tended to be full of rust even when new.

As I said - a very optimistic speedo. Some makers today do just the same.
When making one which is within 1% accuracy should be child's play since
they are counting pulses.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On 13/02/2019 16:54, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Brian Gaff wrote:
Actually my neighbour had a Metro and boy could that thing move. The
speedo kind of just hit the end and after that it was guesswork. Only
problem with it was that it tended to be full of rust even when new.

As I said - a very optimistic speedo. Some makers today do just the same.
When making one which is within 1% accuracy should be child's play since
they are counting pulses.


I find it hard to see how a simple count of pulses can deliver 1 per
cent accuracy. The speedo *mustn't* read low. That's a statutory
requirement: "the true speed shall not exceed the indicated speed" in
your no-doubt well-thumbed copy of the The Motor Vehicles (Approval)
Regulations 2001. Wear on tyres alone can produce a difference of 2 per
cent in the circumference.

--
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"Robin" wrote in message
...
On 13/02/2019 16:54, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Brian Gaff wrote:
Actually my neighbour had a Metro and boy could that thing move. The
speedo kind of just hit the end and after that it was guesswork. Only
problem with it was that it tended to be full of rust even when new.

As I said - a very optimistic speedo. Some makers today do just the same.
When making one which is within 1% accuracy should be child's play since
they are counting pulses.


I find it hard to see how a simple count of pulses can deliver 1 per cent
accuracy. The speedo *mustn't* read low. That's a statutory requirement:
"the true speed shall not exceed the indicated speed" in your no-doubt
well-thumbed copy of the The Motor Vehicles (Approval) Regulations 2001.
Wear on tyres alone can produce a difference of 2 per cent in the
circumference.

I'm surprised it's that much. Is the difference between the external
diameter of a new tyre and of a just-legal tyre as much as 2%?

I presume manufacturers design the speedo to over-read by at least 2% so it
never under-reads even with just-legal tyres. Mine seems to under read by 5
mph across the whole range from 10 - 70, compared with a GPS speedo app.

Robin has brought this to us :
I find it hard to see how a simple count of pulses can deliver 1 per cent
accuracy.

My does around 50 pulses per revolution of the wheel, there are
electronic methods to predict the likely next pulse period and predict
when the next pulse will arrive. I have three speed displays available
to me - the dial on the dash, which reads a few percent high, digital
display which does not interpret the wheel pulses at all, it just
displays the value and entirely independently - satnav. The latter two
always agree within 1mph at a steady speed.

In article , Robin
writes
On 13/02/2019 16:54, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Brian Gaff wrote:
Actually my neighbour had a Metro and boy could that thing move. The
speedo kind of just hit the end and after that it was guesswork. Only
problem with it was that it tended to be full of rust even when new.
As I said - a very optimistic speedo. Some makers today do just the
same.
When making one which is within 1% accuracy should be child's play since
they are counting pulses.


I find it hard to see how a simple count of pulses can deliver 1 per
cent accuracy. The speedo *mustn't* read low. That's a statutory
requirement: "the true speed shall not exceed the indicated speed" in
your no-doubt well-thumbed copy of the The Motor Vehicles (Approval)
Regulations 2001. Wear on tyres alone can produce a difference of 2
per cent in the circumference.

And also
For all true speeds of between 25 mph and 70 mph (or the maximum speed
if lower), the difference between the indicated speed and the true speed
shall not exceed€”

V/10 + 6.25 mph

where V = the true speed of the vehicle in mph.

Which seems to me a very wide variation.
--
bert

In article ,
Robin wrote:
On 13/02/2019 16:54, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Brian Gaff wrote:
Actually my neighbour had a Metro and boy could that thing move. The
speedo kind of just hit the end and after that it was guesswork. Only
problem with it was that it tended to be full of rust even when new.

As I said - a very optimistic speedo. Some makers today do just the same.
When making one which is within 1% accuracy should be child's play since
they are counting pulses.


I find it hard to see how a simple count of pulses can deliver 1 per
cent accuracy.

Really?

The speedo *mustn't* read low. That's a statutory
requirement: "the true speed shall not exceed the indicated speed" in
your no-doubt well-thumbed copy of the The Motor Vehicles (Approval)
Regulations 2001. Wear on tyres alone can produce a difference of 2 per
cent in the circumference.
So you start out with a speedo dead accurate with new tyres. Then the
maximum error would be 2%. Not 10% as allowed. Things have moved on since
that reg was written.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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Dave Plowman wrote:

a very optimistic speedo. Some makers today do just the same.
When making one which is within 1% accuracy should be child's play since
they are counting pulses.

Mine shows true speed minus 1 mph, compared to GPS speed and to those
annoying signs that flash to thank you for being considerate.

In article ,
Andy Burns wrote:
Mine shows true speed minus 1 mph, compared to GPS speed and to those
annoying signs that flash to thank you for being considerate.

There's one round here that flashes saying you're exceeding the limit even
at 20 mph - in a 30 MPH zone. One of the older types which all seemed to
do that.

The newer ones which show your actual speed and a smiley etc, do seem
rather better.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 4:58:16 PM UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Brian Gaff wrote:
Actually my neighbour had a Metro and boy could that thing move. The
speedo kind of just hit the end and after that it was guesswork. Only
problem with it was that it tended to be full of rust even when new.

As I said - a very optimistic speedo. Some makers today do just the same.
When making one which is within 1% accuracy should be child's play since
they are counting pulses.

--
*The closest I ever got to a 4.0 in school was my blood alcohol content*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Years ago when speedometers were mechanically driven I had a Cortina with an automatic box. I had always thought it was very noisy at 70 or so mph so I had a friend trail me one night. THe speedo was under reading byt about 8 mph. I often wondered ift they had fitted the wromng cable

In article , fred
wrote:
On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 4:58:16 PM UTC, Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:
In article , Brian Gaff
wrote:
Actually my neighbour had a Metro and boy could that thing move. The
speedo kind of just hit the end and after that it was guesswork. Only
problem with it was that it tended to be full of rust even when new.

As I said - a very optimistic speedo. Some makers today do just the
same. When making one which is within 1% accuracy should be child's
play since they are counting pulses.

-- *The closest I ever got to a 4.0 in school was my blood alcohol
content*

Dave Plowman London SW To
e-mail, change noise into sound.

Years ago when speedometers were mechanically driven I had a Cortina with
an automatic box. I had always thought it was very noisy at 70 or so mph
so I had a friend trail me one night. THe speedo was under reading byt
about 8 mph. I often wondered ift they had fitted the wromng cable

Ah, so the 100mph I wound my Cortina IV up to on the M4 might have been
even higher.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

fred wrote:
On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 4:58:16 PM UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Brian Gaff wrote:
Actually my neighbour had a Metro and boy could that thing move. The
speedo kind of just hit the end and after that it was guesswork. Only
problem with it was that it tended to be full of rust even when new.

As I said - a very optimistic speedo. Some makers today do just the same.
When making one which is within 1% accuracy should be child's play since
they are counting pulses.

--
*The closest I ever got to a 4.0 in school was my blood alcohol content*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Years ago when speedometers were mechanically driven I had a Cortina with an automatic box. I had always thought it was very noisy at 70 or so mph so I had a friend trail me one night. THe speedo was under reading byt about 8 mph. I often wondered ift they had fitted the wromng cable

Ho do you make a cable that turns at a different speed at the other end?

fred wrote:
On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 4:58:16 PM UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Brian Gaff wrote:
Actually my neighbour had a Metro and boy could that thing move. The
speedo kind of just hit the end and after that it was guesswork. Only
problem with it was that it tended to be full of rust even when new.

As I said - a very optimistic speedo. Some makers today do just the same.
When making one which is within 1% accuracy should be child's play since
they are counting pulses.

--
*The closest I ever got to a 4.0 in school was my blood alcohol content*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Years ago when speedometers were mechanically driven I had a Cortina with
an automatic box. I had always thought it was very noisy at 70 or so mph
so I had a friend trail me one night. THe speedo was under reading byt
about 8 mph. I often wondered ift they had fitted the wromng cable


Why do you believe that your friends speedo was accurate?

A wrong cable cant change the the accuracy but its not unknown for the
wrong speedo drive gears to be fitted to the box resulting in
under-reading. Happened with my wifes old Citroen ZX and it had to be
recalled.

Tim

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On 13/02/2019 16:54, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Brian Gaff wrote:
Actually my neighbour had a Metro and boy could that thing move. The
speedo kind of just hit the end and after that it was guesswork. Only
problem with it was that it tended to be full of rust even when new.

As I said - a very optimistic speedo. Some makers today do just the same.
When making one which is within 1% accuracy should be child's play since
they are counting pulses.


Yes you could do it if the pulses were coming from a laser scanner
pointing at the road so wear and pressure changes in the tyres didn't
have any effect, or you could drag a fifth wheel speedo behind you to
get an accurate speed.

On 13/02/2019 16:54, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
As I said - a very optimistic speedo. Some makers today do just the same.
When making one which is within 1% accuracy should be child's play since
they are counting pulses.

They all do that. 8% high in my experience.

If you aren't careful you won't measure 0-60 times, you'll measure
acceleration to 60 - 8%.

And you'll work out your fuel consumption at a steady 50, not a steady 56...

Win-win for the manufacturer...

I tend to use the tacho. 20MPH per 1000RPM in top, bang on the button,
checked against GPS when straight, level and steady - and I've never
noticed any effect from tyre wear.

The speedo is just somewhere between the marks.

Andy

On 13/02/2019 13:05, TimW wrote:
On 13/02/2019 12:27, wrote:
Overheard someone talking to someone that was going to supply her a temporary vehicle. She was very concerned that the car should be at least a 2.0 as she intends to dive on the motorway.

I assume they offered a beemer, because she said

€œI dont know anything about BMWs I drive a Jaguar.
I dont know if they can be driven on the motorway.€�


How the other half lives! I used to take my 1.0 Metros from London to Preston & back on the motorway on a regular basis (leaving Jaguars and BMs eating my lead!)


Ah yes!
Push the throttle down as far as it will go and keep it there. Turn the
stereo cassette player up loud enough to hear over the noise and leave
that there too. About 90 on the flat, slowing to 70 or less if it's up
hill. It was a Renault5 for me, when I could get it started. Back and
forth on the M3 and M4.
TW
I used to drive my father's Ford Anglia 1200 to see the then girlfriend.
12 miles in 11 minutes with my foot down to the floor and the speedo up
against the stop at 92. Several pretty burnt out valves when he sold it
when I went to college but I had had some fun.

--
F

F news@nowhere Wrote in message:
On 13/02/2019 13:05, TimW wrote:
On 13/02/2019 12:27, wrote:
Overheard someone talking to someone that was going to supply her a temporary vehicle. She was very concerned that the car should be at least a 2.0 as she intends to dive on the motorway.

I assume they offered a beemer, because she said

?I don?t know anything about BMW?s I drive a Jaguar.
I don?t know if they can be driven on the motorway.?


How the other half lives! I used to take my 1.0 Metros from London to Preston & back on the motorway on a regular basis (leaving Jaguars and BMs eating my lead!)


Ah yes!
Push the throttle down as far as it will go and keep it there. Turn the
stereo cassette player up loud enough to hear over the noise and leave
that there too. About 90 on the flat, slowing to 70 or less if it's up
hill. It was a Renault5 for me, when I could get it started. Back and
forth on the M3 and M4.
TW
I used to drive my father's Ford Anglia 1200 to see the then girlfriend.
12 miles in 11 minutes with my foot down to the floor and the speedo up
against the stop at 92.

Er... Something wrong there!
--
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"Tim+" wrote in message
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F news@nowhere Wrote in message:
I used to drive my father's Ford Anglia 1200 to see the then girlfriend.
12 miles in 11 minutes with my foot down to the floor and the speedo up
against the stop at 92. Several pretty burnt out valves when he sold it
when I went to college but I had had some fun.-- F

Yep, 65mph in an Anglia will do that. ;-) (12 miles in 11 minutes
is nowhere *near* 92 mph).

Though unless he and his girlfriend lived right on the roadside on a road
with no junctions or bends that required him to slow down or stop, he'd have
to be hitting 80-90 mph in places to average 65 door-to-door. Might have
been possible at one time, but traffic levels and speed cameras would make
it difficult to achieve nowadays. Cars have got faster, but traffic and
speed limits have got worse.

On Tuesday, 19 February 2019 14:45:41 UTC, NY wrote:
"Tim+" wrote in message
...
F news@nowhere Wrote in message:

I used to drive my father's Ford Anglia 1200 to see the then girlfriend.
12 miles in 11 minutes with my foot down to the floor and the speedo up
against the stop at 92. Several pretty burnt out valves when he sold it
when I went to college but I had had some fun.-- F

Yep, 65mph in an Anglia will do that. ;-) (12 miles in 11 minutes
is nowhere *near* 92 mph).

Though unless he and his girlfriend lived right on the roadside on a road
with no junctions or bends that required him to slow down or stop, he'd have
to be hitting 80-90 mph in places to average 65 door-to-door. Might have
been possible at one time, but traffic levels and speed cameras would make
it difficult to achieve nowadays. Cars have got faster, but traffic and
speed limits have got worse.

ISTR Anglias having terrible brakes & poor stability.


NT

In article ,
wrote:
On Tuesday, 19 February 2019 14:45:41 UTC, NY wrote:
"Tim+" wrote in message
...
F news@nowhere Wrote in message:

I used to drive my father's Ford Anglia 1200 to see the then
girlfriend. 12 miles in 11 minutes with my foot down to the floor
and the speedo up against the stop at 92. Several pretty burnt out
valves when he sold it when I went to college but I had had some
fun.-- F

Yep, 65mph in an Anglia will do that. ;-) (12 miles in 11 minutes is
nowhere *near* 92 mph).

Though unless he and his girlfriend lived right on the roadside on a
road with no junctions or bends that required him to slow down or
stop, he'd have to be hitting 80-90 mph in places to average 65
door-to-door. Might have been possible at one time, but traffic levels
and speed cameras would make it difficult to achieve nowadays. Cars
have got faster, but traffic and speed limits have got worse.

ISTR Anglias having terrible brakes & poor stability.


NT

yes, but fitting an anti-roll bar on the front and upgrading the brake
linings to (ISTR) VG95 made quite a difference.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

On 19/02/2019 14:10, Tim+ wrote:
F news@nowhere Wrote in message:
I used to drive my father's Ford Anglia 1200 to see the then girlfriend. 12 miles in 11 minutes with my foot down to the floor and the speedo up against the stop at 92. Several pretty burnt out valves when he sold it when I went to college but I had had some fun.-- F

Yep, 65mph in an Anglia will do that. ;-) (12 miles in 11 minutes
is nowhere *near* 92 mph).

Tim

It wasn't flat out all the way...

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F

"F" news@nowhere wrote in message
o.uk...
On 19/02/2019 14:10, Tim+ wrote:
F news@nowhere Wrote in message:
I used to drive my father's Ford Anglia 1200 to see the then girlfriend.
12 miles in 11 minutes with my foot down to the floor and the speedo up
against the stop at 92. Several pretty burnt out valves when he sold it
when I went to college but I had had some fun.-- F

Yep, 65mph in an Anglia will do that. ;-) (12 miles in 11 minutes
is nowhere *near* 92 mph).

Tim

It wasn't flat out all the way...

As a matter of interest, what sort of roads was it? I'm impressed that on a
road that is not a motorway or dual carriageway all the way you were able to
average over 60 mph. I've driven as fast as feels safe on two-way,
single-carriageway roads, going a bit above 60 on the straights, and still
only averaged about 55. It doesn't take many stops at junctions or slowing
down for sharp bends to bring the average down, even when you go above 60
where you can.

On 21/02/2019 18:31, NY wrote:
I'm impressed that on a road that is not a motorway or dual carriageway
all the way you were able to average over 60 mph.

Ive done up to 130mph on ordinary A roads and equivalent, back in the day



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important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for
the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the
truth is the greatest enemy of the State.

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On 21/02/2019 18:31, NY wrote:
"F" news@nowhere wrote in message
o.uk...
On 19/02/2019 14:10, Tim+ wrote:
F news@nowhere Wrote in message:
I used to drive my father's Ford Anglia 1200 to see the then girlfriend.
12 miles in 11 minutes with my foot down to the floor and the speedo up
against the stop at 92. Several pretty burnt out valves when he sold it
when I went to college but I had had some fun.-- F

Yep, 65mph in an Anglia will do that. ;-) (12 miles in 11 minutes
is nowhere *near* 92 mph).

Tim

It wasn't flat out all the way...

As a matter of interest, what sort of roads was it?

Pretty straight A road late at night with no traffic.

--
F

On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 12:27:03 PM UTC, wrote:
Overheard someone talking to someone that was going to supply her a temporary vehicle. She was very concerned that the car should be at least a 2.0 as she intends to dive on the motorway.

I assume they offered a beemer, because she said

€œI dont know anything about BMWs I drive a Jaguar.
I dont know if they can be driven on the motorway.€�


If she is that stupid she shouldn't be driving on any road. Perhaps she was trying to be sarky, etc.
I mean, she must have noticed the other carss around her when driving in her Jag.

On 13/02/2019 13:59, sm_jamieson wrote:
On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 12:27:03 PM UTC, wrote:
Overheard someone talking to someone that was going to supply her a temporary vehicle. She was very concerned that the car should be at least a 2.0 as she intends to dive on the motorway.

I assume they offered a beemer, because she said

€œI dont know anything about BMWs I drive a Jaguar.
I dont know if they can be driven on the motorway.€�


If she is that stupid she shouldn't be driving on any road. Perhaps she was trying to be sarky, etc.
I mean, she must have noticed the other carss around her when driving in her Jag.

Had a dumb 50+ blonde ( but out of a bottle at that age) in a big
Mercedes saloon (350 or 450) in front of me at the lights once. All rear
fog lights on, plus rear lights plus brake lights. Couldn't see a damn
thing. At the next set of lights she was turning right, I was going
straight ahead. I hooted the horn and she looked and we wound down our
windows.

"You have your fog lights and are dazzling everyone behind you."
"No I don't". (I could see the warning light from my car.)
"Yes you do, you are dazzling everyone. Turn them off it's not foggy."
"No I do not. This is a Mercedes, the lights are just brighter and
better than cheap cars like yours."

So I can quite believe the overheard conversation.

"sm_jamieson" wrote in message
...
On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 12:27:03 PM UTC, wrote:
Overheard someone talking to someone that was going to supply her a
temporary vehicle. She was very concerned that the car should be at
least a 2.0 as she intends to dive on the motorway.

I assume they offered a beemer, because she said

€œI dont know anything about BMWs I drive a Jaguar.
I dont know if they can be driven on the motorway.€�


If she is that stupid she shouldn't be driving on any road.
Perhaps she was trying to be sarky, etc. I mean, she must have
noticed the other carss around her when driving in her Jag.

Not necessarily, many stupid women wouldnt. Some arent
even aware of the brand of the car they drive all the time.

In article ,
Rod Speed wrote:


"sm_jamieson" wrote in message
...
On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 12:27:03 PM UTC, wrote:
Overheard someone talking to someone that was going to supply her a
temporary vehicle. She was very concerned that the car should be at
least a 2.0 as she intends to dive on the motorway.

I assume they offered a beemer, because she said

”I don‘t know anything about BMW‘s I drive a Jaguar.
I don‘t know if they can be driven on the motorway.•


If she is that stupid she shouldn't be driving on any road.
Perhaps she was trying to be sarky, etc. I mean, she must have
noticed the other carss around her when driving in her Jag.

Not necessarily, many stupid women wouldn‘t. Some arent
even aware of the brand of the car they drive all the time.

Some years ago, I was helping with a children's show at our Village Hall.
During the interval.meone who lived across the road appearedc and asked if
we could geta car moved which was blocking the driveway into his house.
So, I announced that Make & Number of car was in the way and aslked for it
to be moved. Nothing happened. After the show I stood besdie the vehicle
until the driver appeared "Didn't you hear me ask you to move?" "I don't
know what I drive." and drove off.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

In article ,
wrote:
Overheard someone talking to someone that was going to supply her a
temporary vehicle. She was very concerned that the car should be at
least a 2.0 as she intends to dive on the motorway.

I assume they offered a beemer, because she said

”I don‘t know anything about BMW‘s I drive a Jaguar.
I don‘t know if they can be driven on the motorway.•

Most BMWs probably overtook her on the motorway going so fast she couldn't
read the badge. And likely plenty white vans too.


How the other half lives! I used to take my 1.0 Metros from London to
Preston & back on the motorway on a regular basis (leaving Jaguars and
BMs eating my lead!)

Which just means they were vaguely keeping to the speed limit. Given most
BMWs and Jags ever made were faster than a 1 litre Metro. But at least the
Metro had a speedo which told you you were going fast. ;-)

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On 13/02/2019 14:48, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
wrote:
Overheard someone talking to someone that was going to supply her a
temporary vehicle. She was very concerned that the car should be at
least a 2.0 as she intends to dive on the motorway.

I assume they offered a beemer, because she said

€�I don€˜t know anything about BMW€˜s I drive a Jaguar.
I don€˜t know if they can be driven on the motorway.€¢

Most BMWs probably overtook her on the motorway going so fast she couldn't
read the badge. And likely plenty white vans too.


How the other half lives! I used to take my 1.0 Metros from London to
Preston & back on the motorway on a regular basis (leaving Jaguars and
BMs eating my lead!)

Which just means they were vaguely keeping to the speed limit. Given most
BMWs and Jags ever made were faster than a 1 litre Metro. But at least the
Metro had a speedo which told you you were going fast. ;-)


I sometimes set my cruise control to a true 70MPG (GPS calibrated with
sat nav and mobile phone) and there are still very few cars overtaking me.

I have also had a couple of phone calls about me undertaking on a 50 MPH
dual carriageway on the way to work. I have flown past the other
vehicles with my van set at a true 50MPH. This is always where the fixed
speed camera is and they slow down to 40 MPH or less.


--
Adam

"ARW" wrote in message
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I have also had a couple of phone calls about me undertaking on a 50 MPH
dual carriageway on the way to work. I have flown past the other vehicles
with my van set at a true 50MPH. This is always where the fixed speed
camera is and they slow down to 40 MPH or less.

I've lost count of the number of times that I've been following other
traffic that is all doing under the speed limit, and yet one of them *still*
slams the anchors on dangerously hard when they see a police car that might
be looking for speeding drivers. Many drivers seem to think that they must
brake even if they are nowhere near exceeding the speed limit.

Probably the same people that slow down as they approach the back end of a
lorry that they are about to overtake, crawl past the lorry at maybe 2 mph
faster than it and then accelerate away as soon as they have passed its cab.
I prefer to spend as little (rather than as much) time alongside a lorry, in
case it happens to pull out without looking - especially if it's an LHD
lorry.

NY explained :
I've lost count of the number of times that I've been following other traffic
that is all doing under the speed limit, and yet one of them *still* slams
the anchors on dangerously hard when they see a police car that might be
looking for speeding drivers. Many drivers seem to think that they must brake
even if they are nowhere near exceeding the speed limit.

I think that is likely them braking, because they don't even know what
the speed limit is and suddenly develop a guilty conscience.

Harry Bloomfield wrote:
NY explained :
I've lost count of the number of times that I've been following other
traffic that is all doing under the speed limit, and yet one of them
*still* slams the anchors on dangerously hard when they see a police
car that might be looking for speeding drivers. Many drivers seem to
think that they must brake even if they are nowhere near exceeding the
speed limit.

I think that is likely them braking, because they don't even know what
the speed limit is and suddenly develop a guilty conscience.

You lot are lucky,here in Australia we have just made a law that any
flashing police or emergency vehicles at the side of the road means that
you have to slow to 40 kmph which means that you have to reduce speed
from 110 kmph to 40 kmph suddenly on the highway, it has already caused
accidents.

On 13/02/2019 18:58, NY wrote:
I've lost count of the number of times that I've been following other
traffic that is all doing under the speed limit, and yet one of them
*still* slams the anchors on dangerously hard when they see a police car
that might be looking for speeding drivers. Many drivers seem to think
that they must brake even if they are nowhere near exceeding the speed
limit.

I mentioned ths top a plumber. His tale was interesting.

"Most people dont know what the speed limit is, so around town they
drive at 20mph to be safe, and out of town they drive at 50mph".


--
Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's
too dark to read.

Groucho Marx

In article , ARW
wrote:
On 13/02/2019 14:48, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
wrote:
Overheard someone talking to someone that was going to supply her a
temporary vehicle. She was very concerned that the car should be at
least a 2.0 as she intends to dive on the motorway.

I assume they offered a beemer, because she said

•I don�t know anything about BMW�s I drive a Jaguar. I don�t know if
they can be driven on the motorway.�

Most BMWs probably overtook her on the motorway going so fast she
couldn't read the badge. And likely plenty white vans too.


How the other half lives! I used to take my 1.0 Metros from London to
Preston & back on the motorway on a regular basis (leaving Jaguars and
BMs eating my lead!)

Which just means they were vaguely keeping to the speed limit. Given
most BMWs and Jags ever made were faster than a 1 litre Metro. But at
least the Metro had a speedo which told you you were going fast. ;-)


I sometimes set my cruise control to a true 70MPG (GPS calibrated with
sat nav and mobile phone) and there are still very few cars overtaking me.

not so down south. Mostly BMWs

I have also had a couple of phone calls about me undertaking on a 50 MPH
dual carriageway on the way to work. I have flown past the other
vehicles with my van set at a true 50MPH. This is always where the fixed
speed camera is and they slow down to 40 MPH or less.


-- Adam

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from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

On 13/02/2019 19:11, charles wrote:
In article , ARW


I sometimes set my cruise control to a true 70MPG (GPS calibrated with
sat nav and mobile phone) and there are still very few cars overtaking me.

not so down south. Mostly BMWs

A lot down south if you count Watford as South.

The standard of driving on the M1 South of Luton is probably some of the
worst motorway driving I have seen in the UK.




--
Adam

On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 21:39:40 +0000, ARW wrote:

The standard of driving on the M1 South of Luton is probably some of the
worst motorway driving I have seen in the UK.

Hum, was down at Milton Keynes and Nottingham last year, thought the
M1 driving was much better than the M6/M61 south of Preston. That's
abit further north I think but the picture of a dragon obscures the
map.

The M1 is mostly "smart motorway" and even without the variable speed
limit in operation everyone one was doing 70 and reasonably well
spaced out. Presumably because some of the VSL gantries also have
ordinary speed cameras bolted on the side...

The M6/M61 is not "smart motorway" and no speed cameras. Any time
near the rush and you'll have cars doing 80+ mph, two car lengths
apart.

The M61 is only 20 miles long, time difference between *average*
speeds of 65 and 75, is a mere 2' 27". Do people really time their
commute so finely? Hitting a couple sets of lights on red instead of
green will add that sort of time...

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Cheers
Dave.

ARW laid this down on his screen :
I have also had a couple of phone calls about me undertaking on a 50 MPH dual
carriageway on the way to work.

Phone calls from whom?