Huge wrote:
Is the gray stuff push-fit or solvent weld?

Only, I've got to the "move the toilet" stage in the bathroom fitment, and
"all" I have to do is undo a couple of joints, cut 27cm out of a straight
run and put it back together.

Except ... I can't get the joints apart. So, are they stuck together with
30 years of cack, or welded?

Can be either :-)

The material is PVC, which is solvent weldable. But you also get pushfit
connectoes for use with it.

If it's pushfit, there whoulc be a tell-tale 'bump' around the
circumference which houses the O ring.

--
Grunff

On 19 Feb 2004 18:56:53 GMT, (Huge) wrote:

Grunff writes:
Huge wrote:
Is the gray stuff push-fit or solvent weld?

Only, I've got to the "move the toilet" stage in the bathroom fitment, and
"all" I have to do is undo a couple of joints, cut 27cm out of a straight
run and put it back together.

Except ... I can't get the joints apart. So, are they stuck together with
30 years of cack, or welded?

Can be either :-)

That's what I suspected....

The material is PVC, which is solvent weldable. But you also get pushfit
connectoes for use with it.

If it's pushfit, there whoulc be a tell-tale 'bump' around the
circumference which houses the O ring.

Which there is, which is why I thought it was pushfit.

Oh, well, I've got to go out tomorrow and collect the tiles, so I'll
go into Gibbs & Dandy & buy new stuff.

Although it is doubtful that the pushfit has that much cack in it that
it is solidly welded, try putting some effort into it!
...

SJW
A.C.S. Ltd.

In article ,
Huge wrote:
Only, I've got to the "move the toilet" stage in the bathroom fitment, and
"all" I have to do is undo a couple of joints, cut 27cm out of a straight
run and put it back together.

Except ... I can't get the joints apart. So, are they stuck together with
30 years of cack, or welded?

You can sometimes see signs of the glue round joints - it goes sort of
yellow with time. If it's oldish - I'd say it is probably glued. And you
won't get it apart. ;-)

--
*Warning: Dates in Calendar are closer than they appear.

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Dave Plowman wrote:

In article ,
Huge wrote:
Only, I've got to the "move the toilet" stage in the bathroom
fitment, and "all" I have to do is undo a couple of joints, cut 27cm
out of a straight run and put it back together.

Except ... I can't get the joints apart. So, are they stuck together
with 30 years of cack, or welded?

You can sometimes see signs of the glue round joints - it goes sort of
yellow with time. If it's oldish - I'd say it is probably glued. And
you won't get it apart. ;-)


If they're not welded, you can sometimes free them by rotating the pipes. If
you have sufficient access, you could try using the sort of strap wrench
designed for undoing oil filters on cars.
--
Cheers,
Set Square
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Please reply to newsgroup. Reply address is Black Hole!

In article ,
Huge wrote:
If they're not welded, you can sometimes free them by rotating the pipes. If
you have sufficient access, you could try using the sort of strap wrench
designed for undoing oil filters on cars.

Now that's not a bad idea. I've got one of those. Somewhere.

Before you raise your hopes, if you can examine a joint in the pipe, a
welded one will have no clearance between boss and pipe - a plug in type
will.

--
*Do infants enjoy infancy as much as adults enjoy adultery?

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

(Huge) wrote:

Hello Huge

H| Other things to do now. (Oh, the joy of having 2 bathrooms
H| and 3 loos.)

Lucky. I've got to rip the floor up in my sole bathroom today, but the
wife's on crutches /and/ she's got a dodgy tummy atm, so I'm probably
going to have to put down and raise the floor a couple of dozen
times...

--
Simon Avery, Dartmoor, UK
uk.d-i-y FAQ: http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/

(Huge) wrote:

Hello Huge

Lucky. I've got to rip the floor up in my sole bathroom
today, but the wife's on crutches /and/ she's got a dodgy
tummy atm, so I'm probably going to have to put down and
raise the floor a couple of dozen times...
H| Bummer. My sympathy.

Undue worrying, went very smoothly.

Close lockshields.
Lift boards.
Cut pipes, bung on speedfit 15mm cap. Repeat for other pipe, lose
about half a pint of water under the floorboards (ground level).
Remove rad full of water.
Tile and grout back wall.

Fit incredibly expensive but very pretty gold towel rail. (Why are
they all so expensive? Why?)
Refit pipes, this time the water's hotter and I lose a couple of pints
because I went ouchy and flinched.

All done without turning off the heating or losing enough water to
worry about. Boards only up for ten minutes at a time.

Eeh, looks nice. And I had time to watch the rugger.

--
Simon Avery, Dartmoor, UK
uk.d-i-y FAQ: http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/

On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 22:28:25 GMT, (Simon
Avery) wrote:

(Huge) wrote:

Hello Huge

Lucky. I've got to rip the floor up in my sole bathroom
today, but the wife's on crutches /and/ she's got a dodgy
tummy atm, so I'm probably going to have to put down and
raise the floor a couple of dozen times...
H| Bummer. My sympathy.

Undue worrying, went very smoothly.

Close lockshields.
Lift boards.
Cut pipes, bung on speedfit 15mm cap. Repeat for other pipe, lose
about half a pint of water under the floorboards (ground level).
Remove rad full of water.
Tile and grout back wall.

Fit incredibly expensive but very pretty gold towel rail. (Why are
they all so expensive? Why?)

Because you are willing to pay :-)



Refit pipes, this time the water's hotter and I lose a couple of pints
because I went ouchy and flinched.

All done without turning off the heating or losing enough water to
worry about. Boards only up for ten minutes at a time.

Eeh, looks nice. And I had time to watch the rugger.

SWMBO happy?

How many times did you have to lift and replace floor?

..andy

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"Simon Avery" wrote
| Fit incredibly expensive but very pretty gold towel rail. (Why
| are they all so expensive? Why?)

Because the manufacturers know that She chooses but He pays.

Owain

"Huge" wrote
| "Owain" writes:
| "Simon Avery" wrote
| | Fit incredibly expensive but very pretty gold towel rail. (Why
| | are they all so expensive? Why?)
| Because the manufacturers know that She chooses but He pays.
| Perhaps your wife

That's one mistake I've never made.

| needs her "How F***ing Much???" detector adjusting?

Owain