I have had a long lecture from someone who has seen a video online
showing a shower being fitted. That includes testing the output
temperature with a thermometer. In practice, does anyone ever do that?

On 26/09/2018 13:07, GB wrote:
I have had a long lecture from someone who has seen a video online
showing a shower being fitted. That includes testing the output
temperature with a thermometer.Â* In practice, does anyone ever do that?


Possibly only where there is a legal requirement to do so such as for a
temperature controlled shower in a old folks home/hospital etc.

On mixing showers testing only the output is insufficient. You first
need to establish that the hot water feed is at a scalding temperature
and the output is a lower temperature. If you test the output when the
hot water input is barely warm the test will always pass.

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On Wednesday, 26 September 2018 13:07:16 UTC+1, GB wrote:
I have had a long lecture from someone who has seen a video online
showing a shower being fitted. That includes testing the output
temperature with a thermometer. In practice, does anyone ever do that?

I have. Do you need to? The answer is in most cases no.


NT

On 26/09/2018 14:07, wrote:
On Wednesday, 26 September 2018 13:07:16 UTC+1, GB wrote:
I have had a long lecture from someone who has seen a video online
showing a shower being fitted. That includes testing the output
temperature with a thermometer. In practice, does anyone ever do that?

I have. Do you need to? The answer is in most cases no.


NT

Me too.

I also have this uncalibrated thermometer that I take everywhere with
me, known as a hand.

On 26/09/2018 17:24, newshound wrote:
On 26/09/2018 14:07, wrote:
On Wednesday, 26 September 2018 13:07:16 UTC+1, GBÂ* wrote:
I have had a long lecture from someone who has seen a video online
showing a shower being fitted. That includes testing the output
temperature with a thermometer.Â* In practice, does anyone ever do that?

I have. Do you need to? The answer is in most cases no.


NT

Me too.

I also have this uncalibrated thermometer that I take everywhere with
me, known as a hand.

Yes. I set the stop on our thermostatic shower valve to the point where
it was a little too hot to stand, but not hot enough to scald for a
reasonable period. Why would I want a thermometer for that?

OK, one where vulnerable people, with different tolerances are present
would require a properly measured setting.

SteveW

On 26/09/2018 20:16, Steve Walker wrote:
On 26/09/2018 17:24, newshound wrote:
On 26/09/2018 14:07, wrote:
On Wednesday, 26 September 2018 13:07:16 UTC+1, GBÂ* wrote:
I have had a long lecture from someone who has seen a video online
showing a shower being fitted. That includes testing the output
temperature with a thermometer.Â* In practice, does anyone ever do that?

I have. Do you need to? The answer is in most cases no.


NT

Me too.

I also have this uncalibrated thermometer that I take everywhere with
me, known as a hand.

Yes. I set the stop on our thermostatic shower valve to the point where
it was a little too hot to stand, but not hot enough to scald for a
reasonable period. Why would I want a thermometer for that?

Yup I set them similarly - or at least the hot end calibrated so its hot
for SWMBO and warm for me - then I have the extra travel past the
"danger" stop to get a decent temperature :-)

OK, one where vulnerable people, with different tolerances are present
would require a properly measured setting.

SteveW



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On 26/09/2018 20:16, Steve Walker wrote:
On 26/09/2018 17:24, newshound wrote:
On 26/09/2018 14:07, wrote:
On Wednesday, 26 September 2018 13:07:16 UTC+1, GBÂ* wrote:
I have had a long lecture from someone who has seen a video online
showing a shower being fitted. That includes testing the output
temperature with a thermometer.Â* In practice, does anyone ever do that?

I have. Do you need to? The answer is in most cases no.


NT

Me too.

I also have this uncalibrated thermometer that I take everywhere with
me, known as a hand.

Yes. I set the stop on our thermostatic shower valve to the point where
it was a little too hot to stand, but not hot enough to scald for a
reasonable period. Why would I want a thermometer for that?

OK, one where vulnerable people, with different tolerances are present
would require a properly measured setting.

SteveW


Yes, that is *really* important. It is not just the tolerances, it's
that some people can't sense when they are being burned.

On Wednesday, 26 September 2018 23:56:31 UTC+1, newshound wrote:
On 26/09/2018 20:16, Steve Walker wrote:
On 26/09/2018 17:24, newshound wrote:
On 26/09/2018 14:07, tabbypurr wrote:
On Wednesday, 26 September 2018 13:07:16 UTC+1, GBÂ* wrote:

I have had a long lecture from someone who has seen a video online
showing a shower being fitted. That includes testing the output
temperature with a thermometer.Â* In practice, does anyone ever do that?

I have. Do you need to? The answer is in most cases no.


NT

Me too.

I also have this uncalibrated thermometer that I take everywhere with
me, known as a hand.

Yes. I set the stop on our thermostatic shower valve to the point where
it was a little too hot to stand, but not hot enough to scald for a
reasonable period. Why would I want a thermometer for that?

OK, one where vulnerable people, with different tolerances are present
would require a properly measured setting.

SteveW


Yes, that is *really* important. It is not just the tolerances, it's
that some people can't sense when they are being burned.

I've found that what's a comfortable shower temp for one person would have another screaming in pain.


NT

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On Wednesday, 26 September 2018 23:56:31 UTC+1, newshound wrote:
On 26/09/2018 20:16, Steve Walker wrote:
On 26/09/2018 17:24, newshound wrote:
On 26/09/2018 14:07, tabbypurr wrote:
On Wednesday, 26 September 2018 13:07:16 UTC+1, GB wrote:

I have had a long lecture from someone who has seen a video online
showing a shower being fitted. That includes testing the output
temperature with a thermometer. In practice, does anyone ever do
that?

I have. Do you need to? The answer is in most cases no.


NT

Me too.

I also have this uncalibrated thermometer that I take everywhere with
me, known as a hand.

Yes. I set the stop on our thermostatic shower valve to the point where
it was a little too hot to stand, but not hot enough to scald for a
reasonable period. Why would I want a thermometer for that?

OK, one where vulnerable people, with different tolerances are present
would require a properly measured setting.

SteveW


Yes, that is *really* important. It is not just the tolerances, it's
that some people can't sense when they are being burned.

I've found that what's a comfortable shower temp for one person would have
another screaming in pain.

Its never that extreme.

On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:01:31 +1000, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again:


Yes, that is *really* important. It is not just the tolerances, it's
that some people can't sense when they are being burned.

I've found that what's a comfortable shower temp for one person would have
another screaming in pain.

Its never that extreme.

Ozzie idiot knows it BETTER, yet AGAIN! tsk

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On 26/09/2018 17:24, newshound wrote:
On 26/09/2018 14:07, wrote:
On Wednesday, 26 September 2018 13:07:16 UTC+1, GBÂ* wrote:
I have had a long lecture from someone who has seen a video online
showing a shower being fitted. That includes testing the output
temperature with a thermometer.Â* In practice, does anyone ever do that?

I have. Do you need to? The answer is in most cases no.


NT

Me too.

I also have this uncalibrated thermometer that I take everywhere with
me, known as a hand.

AKA wanking spanner at work.

eg "Get your wanking spanners out your pockets and get some work done"

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On 27/09/2018 10:51, wrote:
On Wednesday, 26 September 2018 23:56:31 UTC+1, newshound wrote:
On 26/09/2018 20:16, Steve Walker wrote:
On 26/09/2018 17:24, newshound wrote:
On 26/09/2018 14:07, tabbypurr wrote:
On Wednesday, 26 September 2018 13:07:16 UTC+1, GBÂ* wrote:

I have had a long lecture from someone who has seen a video online
showing a shower being fitted. That includes testing the output
temperature with a thermometer.Â* In practice, does anyone ever do that?

I have. Do you need to? The answer is in most cases no.


NT

Me too.

I also have this uncalibrated thermometer that I take everywhere with
me, known as a hand.

Yes. I set the stop on our thermostatic shower valve to the point where
it was a little too hot to stand, but not hot enough to scald for a
reasonable period. Why would I want a thermometer for that?

OK, one where vulnerable people, with different tolerances are present
would require a properly measured setting.

SteveW


Yes, that is *really* important. It is not just the tolerances, it's
that some people can't sense when they are being burned.

I've found that what's a comfortable shower temp for one person would have another screaming in pain.

Yes, but not actually causing any harm. The stop is not to prevent
someone being (very) uncomfortable, it is purely to prevent them
accidentally injuring themselves - otherwise there would not be a means
to override it and turn it hotter.

SteveW

On Thursday, 27 September 2018 21:38:01 UTC+1, Steve Walker wrote:
On 27/09/2018 10:51, tabbypurr wrote:
On Wednesday, 26 September 2018 23:56:31 UTC+1, newshound wrote:
On 26/09/2018 20:16, Steve Walker wrote:
On 26/09/2018 17:24, newshound wrote:
On 26/09/2018 14:07, tabbypurr wrote:
On Wednesday, 26 September 2018 13:07:16 UTC+1, GBÂ* wrote:

I have had a long lecture from someone who has seen a video online
showing a shower being fitted. That includes testing the output
temperature with a thermometer.Â* In practice, does anyone ever do that?

I have. Do you need to? The answer is in most cases no.


NT

Me too.

I also have this uncalibrated thermometer that I take everywhere with
me, known as a hand.

Yes. I set the stop on our thermostatic shower valve to the point where
it was a little too hot to stand, but not hot enough to scald for a
reasonable period. Why would I want a thermometer for that?

OK, one where vulnerable people, with different tolerances are present
would require a properly measured setting.

SteveW


Yes, that is *really* important. It is not just the tolerances, it's
that some people can't sense when they are being burned.

I've found that what's a comfortable shower temp for one person would have another screaming in pain.

Yes, but not actually causing any harm. The stop is not to prevent
someone being (very) uncomfortable, it is purely to prevent them
accidentally injuring themselves - otherwise there would not be a means
to override it and turn it hotter.

SteveW

I'm not convinced of that, but am not willing to do the experiment.


NT