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So the upstairs bath was moved into position. In a fairly tight alcove
so kindly envisage a portly elderly person adjusting the support legs!

This led on to final assembly of the wall mounted taps and spout. I
suppose it is too much to expect the manufacturer to check if the spout
points down when assembled and provide a suitably sized spacer to
compensate? Anyway the first attempt ended with the spout pointing to
the ceiling (ARW on a slow day).
Back out and lots more thread tape. This time it got to about 4 o'clock,
tempting me to apply a little more leverage.

Extracting the broken threaded sleeve was easy compared to finding a
suitable threaded insert which could be soldered into the nicely chromed
but very thin brass spout. (old fashioned tap connector, turned down to
a sliding fit and the thread built up with a soldered on sleeve)

I have taken the opportunity to shorten the spout as it offers lots of
leverage to unwary children.
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On Sun, 26 Aug 2018 22:51:12 +0100, Tim Lamb
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I
suppose it is too much to expect the manufacturer to check if the spout
points down when assembled and provide a suitably sized spacer to
compensate?


I quite like 'Foliac Threadseal PH' as then you can easily have things
pointing where you like (and not have them leak / damaged). ;-)

Spacers can still be needed if aesthetics are important etc.

Cheers, T i m


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On Sun, 26 Aug 2018 22:51:12 +0100, Tim Lamb
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I
suppose it is too much to expect the manufacturer to check if the spout
points down when assembled and provide a suitably sized spacer to
compensate?


I quite like 'Foliac Threadseal PH' as then you can easily have things
pointing where you like (and not have them leak / damaged). ;-)


The concern about this particular tap is the buried nature leading to
worries about access for future maintenance. I'm trying to balance leak
proof, serviceable and not vulnerable to experimentation by
grandchildren.

Spacers can still be needed if aesthetics are important etc.


Yes. Today I'll find out if my bodge is stronger than the original.
Cautiously!

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On Sun, 26 Aug 2018 22:51:12 +0100, Tim Lamb wrote:

This led on to final assembly of the wall mounted taps and spout. I
suppose it is too much to expect the manufacturer to check if the spout
points down when assembled and provide a suitably sized spacer to
compensate? Anyway the first attempt ended with the spout pointing to
the ceiling (ARW on a slow day).
Back out and lots more thread tape. This time it got to about 4 o'clock,
tempting me to apply a little more leverag


I bought a pair of Bristan 1901 bib taps and upstands. One tap was getting
snut with about 10 deg. to go, so OK; the oter tap was close to 180 deg.
out!
Swapped them and they were both out by the same ammount but too far to
tighten.
Found a couple of white nylon washers of the correct thichness to allow the
'adjustment' to be done with tape. Trimmed around to reduce the washer to
the same size as the flange. Not too bad; could be better.

The lot cost about £90 around 5 years ago froma plumbers' merchant; retail
more like £150.
At that price I too would expect the threads to be tapped for fitting.
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On Sun, 26 Aug 2018 22:51:12 +0100, Tim Lamb wrote:

This led on to final assembly of the wall mounted taps and spout. I
suppose it is too much to expect the manufacturer to check if the spout
points down when assembled and provide a suitably sized spacer to
compensate? Anyway the first attempt ended with the spout pointing to
the ceiling (ARW on a slow day).
Back out and lots more thread tape. This time it got to about 4 o'clock,
tempting me to apply a little more leverag


I bought a pair of Bristan 1901 bib taps and upstands. One tap was getting
snut with about 10 deg. to go, so OK; the oter tap was close to 180 deg.
out!
Swapped them and they were both out by the same ammount but too far to
tighten.
Found a couple of white nylon washers of the correct thichness to allow the
'adjustment' to be done with tape. Trimmed around to reduce the washer to
the same size as the flange. Not too bad; could be better.

The lot cost about £90 around 5 years ago froma plumbers' merchant; retail
more like £150.
At that price I too would expect the threads to be tapped for fitting.


Just so!

I too have a pack of Nylon washers having been unable to source fibre
washers of the correct size. One consolation is that the spout is not
having to withstand mains pressure and self drains as mentioned earlier.
A degree of nervousness is that leaks will not be visible: buried in a
studwork wall:-(

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On Sun, 26 Aug 2018 22:51:12 +0100, Tim Lamb
wrote:

So the upstairs bath was moved into position. In a fairly tight alcove
so kindly envisage a portly elderly person adjusting the support legs!

This led on to final assembly of the wall mounted taps and spout. I
suppose it is too much to expect the manufacturer to check if the spout
points down when assembled and provide a suitably sized spacer to
compensate? Anyway the first attempt ended with the spout pointing to
the ceiling (ARW on a slow day).
Back out and lots more thread tape. This time it got to about 4 o'clock,
tempting me to apply a little more leverage.

Extracting the broken threaded sleeve was easy compared to finding a
suitable threaded insert which could be soldered into the nicely chromed
but very thin brass spout. (old fashioned tap connector, turned down to
a sliding fit and the thread built up with a soldered on sleeve)


For some reason your account reminds me of Hoffnung's account of the
barrel of bricks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZUJLO6lMhI


Thank you:-)
Helped by the reader applying their imagination to probable events?


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I was just thinking the same. Unfortunately it seems the designers of
plumbing items seldom consider anything other than the situation you see in
the glossy brochures for their use.
Brian

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On Sun, 26 Aug 2018 22:51:12 +0100, Tim Lamb
wrote:

So the upstairs bath was moved into position. In a fairly tight alcove
so kindly envisage a portly elderly person adjusting the support legs!

This led on to final assembly of the wall mounted taps and spout. I
suppose it is too much to expect the manufacturer to check if the spout
points down when assembled and provide a suitably sized spacer to
compensate? Anyway the first attempt ended with the spout pointing to
the ceiling (ARW on a slow day).
Back out and lots more thread tape. This time it got to about 4 o'clock,
tempting me to apply a little more leverage.

Extracting the broken threaded sleeve was easy compared to finding a
suitable threaded insert which could be soldered into the nicely chromed
but very thin brass spout. (old fashioned tap connector, turned down to
a sliding fit and the thread built up with a soldered on sleeve)


For some reason your account reminds me of Hoffnung's account of the
barrel of bricks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZUJLO6lMhI

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Chris



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