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Prepare floor for vinyl tiles
I am going to have to lay about 4 sq metres of Amtico tiles.
They are much thinner than those I laid 40 years ago, so the floor has to be very even. What I have looks as though it is a layer of ply or hardboard rough side up. It is pretty even but I need to ensure it is as good as I can get it. Can anyone recommend a suitable pourable materialthat will self-level? -- Mageia 5.1 for x86_64, Kernel:4.4.114-desktop-1.mga5 KDE version 4.14.5 on an AMD Phenom II X4 Black edition. |
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On 02/07/18 11:07, Pinnerite wrote:
I am going to have to lay about 4 sq metres of Amtico tiles. They are much thinner than those I laid 40 years ago, so the floor has to be very even. What I have looks as though it is a layer of ply or hardboard rough side up. It is pretty even but I need to ensure it is as good as I can get it. Can anyone recommend a suitable pourable materialthat will self-level? F Ball Stopgap 300 Watch the videos on Youtube, use a spiked roller to move it around, dam the doorways (it will leak through the tiniest of gaps) and follow the manufacturer's instructs exactly - especially about priming the floor first. However, as good as it is, I've observed it works best for a 5mm deep pour - you should get it to millpond flatness. 3mm is just about do-able. Much less and it won't self level that well. And this is the best product I know of (and have used). |
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On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 12:42:20 PM UTC+1, Tim Watts wrote:
On 02/07/18 11:07, Pinnerite wrote: I am going to have to lay about 4 sq metres of Amtico tiles. They are much thinner than those I laid 40 years ago, so the floor has to be very even. What I have looks as though it is a layer of ply or hardboard rough side up. It is pretty even but I need to ensure it is as good as I can get it. Can anyone recommend a suitable pourable materialthat will self-level? F Ball Stopgap 300 Watch the videos on Youtube, use a spiked roller to move it around, dam the doorways (it will leak through the tiniest of gaps) and follow the manufacturer's instructs exactly - especially about priming the floor first. However, as good as it is, I've observed it works best for a 5mm deep pour - you should get it to millpond flatness. 3mm is just about do-able. Much less and it won't self level that well. And this is the best product I know of (and have used). I'd say get decent ply of a good thickness. That should be as level as it can be |
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On Monday, 2 July 2018 13:20:41 UTC+1, stuart noble wrote:
On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 12:42:20 PM UTC+1, Tim Watts wrote: On 02/07/18 11:07, Pinnerite wrote: I am going to have to lay about 4 sq metres of Amtico tiles. They are much thinner than those I laid 40 years ago, so the floor has to be very even. What I have looks as though it is a layer of ply or hardboard rough side up. It is pretty even but I need to ensure it is as good as I can get it. Can anyone recommend a suitable pourable materialthat will self-level? F Ball Stopgap 300 Watch the videos on Youtube, use a spiked roller to move it around, dam the doorways (it will leak through the tiniest of gaps) and follow the manufacturer's instructs exactly - especially about priming the floor first. However, as good as it is, I've observed it works best for a 5mm deep pour - you should get it to millpond flatness. 3mm is just about do-able. Much less and it won't self level that well. And this is the best product I know of (and have used). I'd say get decent ply of a good thickness. That should be as level as it can be how would you treat the edge gaps? NT |
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On 02/07/2018 11:07, Pinnerite wrote:
I am going to have to lay about 4 sq metres of Amtico tiles. They are much thinner than those I laid 40 years ago, so the floor has to be very even. What I have looks as though it is a layer of ply or hardboard rough side up. It is pretty even but I need to ensure it is as good as I can get it. Can anyone recommend a suitable pourable materialthat will self-level? I recently did a couple of Karndean vinyl plank floors... the usual recomendation is to give them a final coat of latex self levelling compound (I have used the Wickes one in the past, and its not too bad if you get it down fast - probably not as effective as Tim's F&B - although probably a fraction of the price!). However on mine I just used 5.5mm WBP ply screwed down really well (6" grid), and then gave it a coat of feathering compound. That seemed to work fine as a base for the tiles. (although note mine do not have a high shine and so do not reveal every imperfection in the level) -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 02/07/18 15:42, John Rumm wrote:
On 02/07/2018 11:07, Pinnerite wrote: I am going to have to lay about 4 sq metres of Amtico tiles. They are much thinner than those I laid 40 years ago, so the floor has to be very even. What I have looks as though it is a layer of ply or hardboard rough side up. It is pretty even but I need to ensure it is as good as I can get it. Can anyone recommend a suitable pourable materialthat will self-level? I recently did a couple of Karndean vinyl plank floors... the usual recomendation is to give them a final coat ofÂ* latex self levelling compound (I have used the Wickes one in the past, and its not too bad if you get it down fast - probably not as effective as Tim's F&B - although probably a fraction of the price!). Stopgap 300 was about £19 / 20kg bag 5 years ago - not too bad considering some of the sheds were charging similar for less good stuff However on mine I just used 5.5mm WBP ply screwed down really well (6" grid), and then gave it a coat of feathering compound. That seemed to work fine as a base for the tiles. (although note mine do not have a high shine and so do not reveal every imperfection in the level) |
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On 02/07/2018 17:20, Tim Watts wrote:
On 02/07/18 15:42, John Rumm wrote: On 02/07/2018 11:07, Pinnerite wrote: I am going to have to lay about 4 sq metres of Amtico tiles. They are much thinner than those I laid 40 years ago, so the floor has to be very even. What I have looks as though it is a layer of ply or hardboard rough side up. It is pretty even but I need to ensure it is as good as I can get it. Can anyone recommend a suitable pourable materialthat will self-level? I recently did a couple of Karndean vinyl plank floors... the usual recomendation is to give them a final coat ofÂ* latex self levelling compound (I have used the Wickes one in the past, and its not too bad if you get it down fast - probably not as effective as Tim's F&B - although probably a fraction of the price!). Stopgap 300 was about £19 / 20kg bag 5 years ago - not too bad considering some of the sheds were charging similar for less good stuff Not as much as I was expecting to be fair... ISTR the better of the two wickes ones were about £15 or £16 at the time. (they are listing the latex one at £18.69 at the mo, or 14.95 if you get 3 or more now) -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 02/07/18 18:06, John Rumm wrote:
On 02/07/2018 17:20, Tim Watts wrote: On 02/07/18 15:42, John Rumm wrote: On 02/07/2018 11:07, Pinnerite wrote: I am going to have to lay about 4 sq metres of Amtico tiles. They are much thinner than those I laid 40 years ago, so the floor has to be very even. What I have looks as though it is a layer of ply or hardboard rough side up. It is pretty even but I need to ensure it is as good as I can get it. Can anyone recommend a suitable pourable materialthat will self-level? I recently did a couple of Karndean vinyl plank floors... the usual recomendation is to give them a final coat ofÂ* latex self levelling compound (I have used the Wickes one in the past, and its not too bad if you get it down fast - probably not as effective as Tim's F&B - although probably a fraction of the price!). Stopgap 300 was about £19 / 20kg bag 5 years ago - not too bad considering some of the sheds were charging similar for less good stuff Not as much as I was expecting to be fair... ISTR the better of the two wickes ones were about £15 or £16 at the time. (they are listing the latex one at £18.69 at the mo, or 14.95 if you get 3 or more now) £22 inc VAT: https://www.ukflooringsupplier.co.uk...ch=stopgap+300 but the OP will also need one bottle of: https://www.ukflooringsupplier.co.uk..._15481881.aspx for £34 and you cannot avoid using that (and expect SG300 to work!). However, the end result is a flat surface that's virtually iron hard. |
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