I've got all the indoor doors to gloss paint and the brush I've started
wit is beyond cr@p. It holds very little paint and is developing severe
alopecia. Progress is slow and messy.

Can anyone recommend a decent brand or source of a brush that will help
me do a better and faster job?

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On 19/06/2018 17:47, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 17:40:04 +0100, F news@nowhere wrote:

I've got all the indoor doors to gloss paint and the brush I've started
wit is beyond cr@p. It holds very little paint and is developing severe
alopecia. Progress is slow and messy.

Can anyone recommend a decent brand or source of a brush that will help
me do a better and faster job?

Harris

Thanks. Any particular version: there's quite a choice.

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F

I've found the red ones from Wilko are OK

On 19/06/2018 18:32, F wrote:
On 19/06/2018 17:47, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 17:40:04 +0100, F news@nowhere wrote:

I've got all the indoor doors to gloss paint and the brush I've started
wit is beyond cr@p. It holds very little paint and is developing severe
alopecia. Progress is slow and messy.

Can anyone recommend a decent brand or source of a brush that will help
me do a better and faster job?

Harris

Thanks. Any particular version: there's quite a choice.



Use a roller to apply the pain, then just brush it out with the brush.

On 19/06/2018 18:53, GB wrote:

Use a roller to apply the pain, then just brush it out with the brush.

pain? Freudian slip.

On 19/06/2018 18:53, GB wrote:
On 19/06/2018 18:32, F wrote:
On 19/06/2018 17:47, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 17:40:04 +0100, F news@nowhere wrote:

I've got all the indoor doors to gloss paint and the brush I've started
wit is beyond cr@p. It holds very little paint and is developing severe
alopecia. Progress is slow and messy.

Can anyone recommend a decent brand or source of a brush that will help
me do a better and faster job?

Harris

Thanks. Any particular version: there's quite a choice.



Use a roller to apply the pain

And painting is a pain!

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"GB" wrote in message
news
On 19/06/2018 18:32, F wrote:
On 19/06/2018 17:47, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 17:40:04 +0100, F news@nowhere wrote:

I've got all the indoor doors to gloss paint and the brush I've started
wit is beyond cr@p. It holds very little paint and is developing severe
alopecia. Progress is slow and messy.

Can anyone recommend a decent brand or source of a brush that will help
me do a better and faster job?

Harris

Thanks. Any particular version: there's quite a choice.



Use a roller to apply the pain,

Whips work a lot better.

then just brush it out with the brush.

Brush what out, the blood and gore ?

On Tuesday, 19 June 2018 17:40:08 UTC+1, F wrote:
I've got all the indoor doors to gloss paint and the brush I've started
wit is beyond cr@p. It holds very little paint and is developing severe
alopecia. Progress is slow and messy.

Can anyone recommend a decent brand or source of a brush that will help
me do a better and faster job?

There is one bit of good news: alopecia can be mostly cured by not cleaning the bristles near the top. Let the gloss get in there & set.


NT

On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 05:18:40 +1000, cantankerous geezer Rot Speed blabbered,
again:



Use a roller to apply the pain,

Whips work a lot better.

then just brush it out with the brush.

Brush what out, the blood and gore ?

Gee ...and that thread was Rot-free, so far! tsk

Chris Hogg has brought this to us :
Harris

I don't know if some of mine are typical, or maybe copies, but I have
some very poor quality Harris brushes.

I also have some really good brushes with red handles bought from Wilko
(own brand).

GB wrote:

Use a roller to apply the paint, then just brush it out with the brush.

+1

Chris
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Plant amazing Acers.

On 20/06/2018 08:17, Chris J Dixon wrote:
GB wrote:

Use a roller to apply the paint, then just brush it out with the brush.

+1

Thanks, both of you. I've never used a roller for gloss but am picking
one up this morning.

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F

On 20/06/2018 09:25, F wrote:
On 20/06/2018 08:17, Chris J Dixon wrote:
GB wrote:

Use a roller to apply the paint, then just brush it out with the brush.

+1

Thanks, both of you. I've never used a roller for gloss but am picking
one up this morning.


One of those mini rollers.

On 19/06/2018 23:16, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Chris Hogg has brought this to us :
Harris

I don't know if some of mine are typical, or maybe copies, but I have
some very poor quality Harris brushes.

I also have some really good brushes with red handles bought from Wilko
(own brand).

I've picked up a couple of Harris brushes so will see how they work out.
Fingers crossed! Unfortunately, we don't have a Wilko nearby.

--
F

On 19/06/2018 18:53, GB wrote:
On 19/06/2018 18:32, F wrote:
On 19/06/2018 17:47, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 17:40:04 +0100, F news@nowhere wrote:

I've got all the indoor doors to gloss paint and the brush I've started
wit is beyond cr@p. It holds very little paint and is developing severe
alopecia. Progress is slow and messy.

Can anyone recommend a decent brand or source of a brush that will help
me do a better and faster job?

Harris

Thanks. Any particular version: there's quite a choice.



Use a roller to apply the pain, then just brush it out with the brush.

What's the benefit of using a roller for applying the gloss?

On 20/06/2018 09:26, GB wrote:
On 20/06/2018 09:25, F wrote:
On 20/06/2018 08:17, Chris J Dixon wrote:
GB wrote:

Use a roller to apply the paint, then just brush it out with the brush.

+1

Thanks, both of you. I've never used a roller for gloss but am picking
one up this morning.


One of those mini rollers.

I've found that you have to be prepared and work fast especially with
water based paints on a very hot day. If you are too slow the paint can
start drying/filming before you have chance to rework it. Mini rollers
on their own can leave an orange peel type finish - which may not look
that bad for some applications where it can hide some minor infections
in what you are painting.

You also need a good quality soft natural bristle brush for a good
finish. I've found that brushes with synthetic fibres tend to leave much
more obvious brush marks.

Synthetic fibre brushes also tend to differ vastly in quality and IMO
price doesn't always reflect quality. Some of the better synthetic fibre
brushes in my collection have been from pound type shops with molded
plastic ferrules that don't rust nor shed bristles and hold a decent
amount of paint.

Always wash a new brush and/or dry paint some brick work to see if the
brush is going to drop bristles. Removing bristles from what you are
painting can be a PITA and slow you down.

If using a water based paint on a roller placing it in a plastic bag and
tying up the opening of the bag (plastic food bags with plastic zips are
good for this) allows you to continue using the roller for 12/24hours
without having to clean it.

Painting outside this time of year with white paint may attract flying
insects such as greenfly. Don't try and remove them when the paint is
still wet! You may still achieve an acceptable finish if you let the
paint fully dry and then wipe off the insects with a damp cloth.


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On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 17:40:04 +0100, F news@nowhere wrote:

I've got all the indoor doors to gloss paint and the brush I've started
wit is beyond cr@p. It holds very little paint and is developing severe
alopecia. Progress is slow and messy.

Can anyone recommend a decent brand or source of a brush that will help
me do a better and faster job?

Harris

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Not easy on some of the ornamental beading though.
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On 19/06/2018 18:32, F wrote:
On 19/06/2018 17:47, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 17:40:04 +0100, F news@nowhere wrote:

I've got all the indoor doors to gloss paint and the brush I've started
wit is beyond cr@p. It holds very little paint and is developing severe
alopecia. Progress is slow and messy.

Can anyone recommend a decent brand or source of a brush that will help
me do a better and faster job?

Harris

Thanks. Any particular version: there's quite a choice.



Use a roller to apply the pain, then just brush it out with the brush.

Actually I was going to say a riding crop but somebody beat me to it.
maniacal laughter at the terrible puns in this thread.
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"GB" wrote in message
news
On 19/06/2018 18:32, F wrote:
On 19/06/2018 17:47, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 17:40:04 +0100, F news@nowhere wrote:

I've got all the indoor doors to gloss paint and the brush I've
started
wit is beyond cr@p. It holds very little paint and is developing
severe
alopecia. Progress is slow and messy.

Can anyone recommend a decent brand or source of a brush that will
help
me do a better and faster job?

Harris

Thanks. Any particular version: there's quite a choice.



Use a roller to apply the pain,

Whips work a lot better.

then just brush it out with the brush.

Brush what out, the blood and gore ?

F wrote:
On 20/06/2018 08:17, Chris J Dixon wrote:
GB wrote:

Use a roller to apply the paint, then just brush it out with the
brush.

+1

Thanks, both of you. I've never used a roller for gloss but am picking
one up this morning.

Mini rollers are cheap, come with the tray and rollers for gloss or
emulsion.
I have had excellent results and have only used a brush for the awkward
bits.

wrote:
On 19/06/2018 18:53, GB wrote:
On 19/06/2018 18:32, F wrote:
On 19/06/2018 17:47, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 17:40:04 +0100, F news@nowhere wrote:

I've got all the indoor doors to gloss paint and the brush I've
started wit is beyond cr@p. It holds very little paint and is
developing severe alopecia. Progress is slow and messy.

Can anyone recommend a decent brand or source of a brush that
will help me do a better and faster job?

Harris

Thanks. Any particular version: there's quite a choice.



Use a roller to apply the pain, then just brush it out with the
brush.

What's the benefit of using a roller for applying the gloss?

Less paint is used, no runs, faster, no bristles left in the paint and a
nice flat finish.

F news@nowhere Wrote in message:
On 20/06/2018 08:17, Chris J Dixon wrote:
GB wrote:

Use a roller to apply the paint, then just brush it out with the brush.

+1

Thanks, both of you. I've never used a roller for gloss but am picking
one up this morning.


Wear gloves ;-)
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On Wednesday, 20 June 2018 09:52:39 UTC+1, wrote:
On 19/06/2018 18:53, GB wrote:
On 19/06/2018 18:32, F wrote:
On 19/06/2018 17:47, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 17:40:04 +0100, F news@nowhere wrote:

I've got all the indoor doors to gloss paint and the brush I've started
wit is beyond cr@p. It holds very little paint and is developing severe
alopecia. Progress is slow and messy.

Can anyone recommend a decent brand or source of a brush that will help
me do a better and faster job?

Harris

Thanks. Any particular version: there's quite a choice.



Use a roller to apply the pain, then just brush it out with the brush.

What's the benefit of using a roller for applying the gloss?

helps it to splatter everywhere in tiny drops that you don't notice until it's set like rock.


NT

On Wednesday, 20 June 2018 10:07:11 UTC+1, alan_m wrote:
On 20/06/2018 09:26, GB wrote:
On 20/06/2018 09:25, F wrote:
On 20/06/2018 08:17, Chris J Dixon wrote:
GB wrote:

Use a roller to apply the paint, then just brush it out with the brush.

+1

Thanks, both of you. I've never used a roller for gloss but am picking
one up this morning.


One of those mini rollers.

I've found that you have to be prepared and work fast especially with
water based paints on a very hot day. If you are too slow the paint can
start drying/filming before you have chance to rework it. Mini rollers
on their own can leave an orange peel type finish - which may not look
that bad for some applications where it can hide some minor infections
in what you are painting.

You also need a good quality soft natural bristle brush for a good
finish. I've found that brushes with synthetic fibres tend to leave much
more obvious brush marks.

Synthetic fibre brushes also tend to differ vastly in quality and IMO
price doesn't always reflect quality. Some of the better synthetic fibre
brushes in my collection have been from pound type shops with molded
plastic ferrules that don't rust nor shed bristles and hold a decent
amount of paint.

Always wash a new brush and/or dry paint some brick work to see if the
brush is going to drop bristles. Removing bristles from what you are
painting can be a PITA and slow you down.

If using a water based paint on a roller placing it in a plastic bag and
tying up the opening of the bag (plastic food bags with plastic zips are
good for this) allows you to continue using the roller for 12/24hours
without having to clean it.

Painting outside this time of year with white paint may attract flying
insects such as greenfly. Don't try and remove them when the paint is
still wet! You may still achieve an acceptable finish if you let the
paint fully dry and then wipe off the insects with a damp cloth.

good tips. I've been caught out once by overnight bagging a roller - turned out it was card cored not plastic - the result was a soggy heap next day.


NT

wrote:
On Wednesday, 20 June 2018 09:52:39 UTC+1, wrote:
On 19/06/2018 18:53, GB wrote:
On 19/06/2018 18:32, F wrote:
On 19/06/2018 17:47, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 17:40:04 +0100, F news@nowhere wrote:

I've got all the indoor doors to gloss paint and the brush I've
started wit is beyond cr@p. It holds very little paint and is
developing severe alopecia. Progress is slow and messy.

Can anyone recommend a decent brand or source of a brush that
will help me do a better and faster job?

Harris

Thanks. Any particular version: there's quite a choice.



Use a roller to apply the pain, then just brush it out with the
brush.

What's the benefit of using a roller for applying the gloss?

helps it to splatter everywhere in tiny drops that you don't notice
until it's set like rock.

Dust sheets.
It really is not that difficult.

On 20/06/2018 19:21, Jim K wrote:
F news@nowhere Wrote in message:
On 20/06/2018 08:17, Chris J Dixon wrote:
GB wrote:

Use a roller to apply the paint, then just brush it out with the brush.

+1

Thanks, both of you. I've never used a roller for gloss but am picking
one up this morning.


Wear gloves ;-)

I did!

--
F

On 19/06/2018 17:47, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 17:40:04 +0100, F news@nowhere wrote:

I've got all the indoor doors to gloss paint and the brush I've started
wit is beyond cr@p. It holds very little paint and is developing severe
alopecia. Progress is slow and messy.

Can anyone recommend a decent brand or source of a brush that will help
me do a better and faster job?

Harris

I got some Harris Trade Fine Tip brushes from the local Screwfix.
Excellent and a revelation. Thank you.

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On 19/06/2018 18:53, GB wrote:
On 19/06/2018 18:32, F wrote:
On 19/06/2018 17:47, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 17:40:04 +0100, F news@nowhere wrote:

I've got all the indoor doors to gloss paint and the brush I've started
wit is beyond cr@p. It holds very little paint and is developing severe
alopecia. Progress is slow and messy.

Can anyone recommend a decent brand or source of a brush that will help
me do a better and faster job?

Harris

Thanks. Any particular version: there's quite a choice.



Use a roller to apply the pain, then just brush it out with the brush.

A pity you didn't tell me that a few decades ago!

I got a 4" 'No-nonsense' mini roller and tray along with a pack of spare
foam sleeves from Screwfix. I'm not cleaning the used sleeve: it's gone
in the bin. At 50p each I can't be bothered.

Much easier and much faster. Even if applying gloss paint with a foam
roller is counter-intuitive.

Thanks for the life-changing suggestion: appreciated!

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On 20/06/2018 16:06, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
F wrote:
On 20/06/2018 08:17, Chris J Dixon wrote:
GB wrote:

Use a roller to apply the paint, then just brush it out with the
brush.

+1

Thanks, both of you. I've never used a roller for gloss but am picking
one up this morning.

Mini rollers are cheap, come with the tray and rollers for gloss or
emulsion.
I have had excellent results and have only used a brush for the awkward
bits.


I used the 4" mini roller to roll the paint on and then a brush to brush
it out and to get into the recesses in the panelled doors.

Much faster and a thinner, but more than adequate, coat of paint.

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On 20/06/2018 16:11, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
wrote:
On 19/06/2018 18:53, GB wrote:
On 19/06/2018 18:32, F wrote:
On 19/06/2018 17:47, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 17:40:04 +0100, F news@nowhere wrote:

I've got all the indoor doors to gloss paint and the brush I've
started wit is beyond cr@p. It holds very little paint and is
developing severe alopecia. Progress is slow and messy.

Can anyone recommend a decent brand or source of a brush that
will help me do a better and faster job?

Harris

Thanks. Any particular version: there's quite a choice.



Use a roller to apply the pain, then just brush it out with the
brush.

What's the benefit of using a roller for applying the gloss?

Less paint is used, no runs, faster, no bristles left in the paint and a
nice flat finish.

As I have discovered.

--
F

On Wednesday, 20 June 2018 21:26:10 UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
tabbypurr wrote:
On Wednesday, 20 June 2018 09:52:39 UTC+1, wrote:
On 19/06/2018 18:53, GB wrote:
On 19/06/2018 18:32, F wrote:
On 19/06/2018 17:47, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 17:40:04 +0100, F news@nowhere wrote:

I've got all the indoor doors to gloss paint and the brush I've
started wit is beyond cr@p. It holds very little paint and is
developing severe alopecia. Progress is slow and messy.

Can anyone recommend a decent brand or source of a brush that
will help me do a better and faster job?

Harris

Thanks. Any particular version: there's quite a choice.



Use a roller to apply the pain, then just brush it out with the
brush.

What's the benefit of using a roller for applying the gloss?

helps it to splatter everywhere in tiny drops that you don't notice
until it's set like rock.

Dust sheets.
It really is not that difficult.

Dust sheeting absolutely everything including the walls when you do a ceiling is a right pain. I prefer a brush.


NT

On 21/06/2018 01:25, wrote:


Dust sheeting absolutely everything including the walls when you do a ceiling is a right pain. I prefer a brush.

In my (recent) experience painting high ceilings in a stairwell it
didn't matter if I was using a brush for cutting in or a roller for the
large area to how much paint ended up on the floor. I got a few drips
from the edge of the roller and a few from a slightly overloaded brush
when working at awkward angle at the top of a ladder.


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On 21/06/2018 07:07, alan_m wrote:
On 21/06/2018 01:25, wrote:


Dust sheeting absolutely everything including the walls when you do a
ceiling is a right pain. I prefer a brush.

In my (recent) experience painting high ceilings in a stairwell it
didn't matter if I was using a brush for cutting in or a roller for the
large area to how much paint ended up on the floor. I got a few drips
from the edge of the roller and a few from a slightly overloaded brush
when working at awkward angle at the top of a ladder.



I also recommend getting a decent sturdy pole for the roller. In the
past I have had "cheap and nasty" poles to hold the roller for painting
walls/ceilings which have flexed and didn't hold the roller to well. For
my last bout of ceiling painting I invested in a much better pole with a
6 sided metal inner where the extension firmly locked in set positions.
It made a big difference to the ease of painting and because of the
better control of the roller possibly less paint splatter/drips.

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On 20/06/2018 08:17, Chris J Dixon wrote:
GB wrote:

Use a roller to apply the paint, then just brush it out with the brush.

+1

Chris


I just use a roller, and only use a paint brush for fiddly bits.

OP hasn't told us if the paint is water-based or solvent based,
which needs different types of brush.

Oil paint needs a good bristle brush, which are not good for
water-based paints and vice-versa.

On 21/06/2018 16:17, Andrew wrote:
On 20/06/2018 08:17, Chris J Dixon wrote:
GB wrote:

Use a roller to apply the paint, then just brush it out with the brush.

+1

Chris


I just use a roller, and only use a paint brush for fiddly bits.

OP hasn't told us if the paint is water-based or solvent based,
which needs different types of brush.

Oil paint needs a good bristle brush, which are not good for
water-based paints and vice-versa.

Solvent.

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