Hi,

Mild weather has brought ants back to our kitchen. This has been an
on/off problem for years. I would like to annihilate them once and for all.

Have built up a nice collection of powders and liquids over the
years...never entirely effective and I'd like to open up a new "front"
in the war.

I see on Amazon ultrasonic pest repellers (search for B078KNRF15) which
claim to work against ants.

I am dubious. Anybody got experience of ultrasonics for ant/insect
repelling? Does it work?

David

Vortex12 wrote:
Hi,

Mild weather has brought ants back to our kitchen.Â* This has been an
on/off problem for years.Â* I would like to annihilate them once and for
all.

Have built up a nice collection of powders and liquids over the
years...never entirely effective and I'd like to open up a new "front"
in the war.

I see on Amazon ultrasonic pest repellers (search for B078KNRF15) which
claim to work against ants.

I am dubious.Â* Anybody got experience of ultrasonics for ant/insect
repelling?Â* Does it work?

David



Dont know about the UK but we have a seemingly secret stuff here called
cockroach killer which it seems can only be got at a Chinese supermarket
it is not on the shelf, they get it from under the counter if asked, it
is a small green box with 5 phials of powder that looks like sand,they
insist that it is safe for humans but they do suggest you don't eat it.
chinese writing on box but enough english for use.

On 09/04/2018 10:33, Huge wrote:
On 2018-04-09, Vortex12 wrote:
Hi,

Mild weather has brought ants back to our kitchen. This has been an
on/off problem for years. I would like to annihilate them once and for all.

Have built up a nice collection of powders and liquids over the
years...never entirely effective and I'd like to open up a new "front"
in the war.

Have you tried boric acid? Worked an absolute treat in our house last year,
unlike all the toxic gunge I tried before.



50:50 Borax and Icing sugar. You need something they take back to their
colony.

My experience with any ultrasonic pest device is that they don't work.

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In article ,
alan_m writes:
On 09/04/2018 10:33, Huge wrote:
On 2018-04-09, Vortex12 wrote:
Hi,

Mild weather has brought ants back to our kitchen. This has been an
on/off problem for years. I would like to annihilate them once and for all.

Have built up a nice collection of powders and liquids over the
years...never entirely effective and I'd like to open up a new "front"
in the war.

Have you tried boric acid? Worked an absolute treat in our house last year,
unlike all the toxic gunge I tried before.

50:50 Borax and Icing sugar. You need something they take back to their
colony.

My experience with any ultrasonic pest device is that they don't work.

I wouldn't use them anyway. Just because you can't hear a sound,
it doesn't mean it's not damaging your hearing.

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

On 09/04/2018 10:33, Huge wrote:
On 2018-04-09, Vortex12 wrote:
Hi,

Mild weather has brought ants back to our kitchen. This has been an
on/off problem for years. I would like to annihilate them once and for all.

Have built up a nice collection of powders and liquids over the
years...never entirely effective and I'd like to open up a new "front"
in the war.

Have you tried boric acid? Worked an absolute treat in our house last year,
unlike all the toxic gunge I tried before.


Commercial Nippon used to work OK. My recollection is that it contained
some pyrethrum but certainly mainly sugar and could have included borax.

alan_m wrote:

My experience with any ultrasonic pest device is that they don't work.

Mine too.

I tried one, and the cats and squirrels were completely
unaffected. However, my partner's rather younger ears were
sufficiently sensitive to find it seriously irritating, so it
didn't stay in use very long.

Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK


Plant amazing Acers.

FMurtz Wrote in message:
Vortex12 wrote:
Hi,

Mild weather has brought ants back to our kitchen. This has been an
on/off problem for years. I would like to annihilate them once and for
all.

Have built up a nice collection of powders and liquids over the
years...never entirely effective and I'd like to open up a new "front"
in the war.

I see on Amazon ultrasonic pest repellers (search for B078KNRF15) which
claim to work against ants.

I am dubious. Anybody got experience of ultrasonics for ant/insect
repelling? Does it work?

David



Dont know about the UK but we have a seemingly secret stuff here called
cockroach killer which it seems can only be got at a Chinese supermarket
it is not on the shelf, they get it from under the counter if asked, it
is a small green box with 5 phials of powder that looks like sand,they
insist that it is safe for humans but they do suggest you don't eat it.
chinese writing on box but enough english for use.


Acephate 2.5%?

Organophosphate not approved in eu.
--
Jim K

On 4/9/2018 8:17 AM, alan_m wrote:

50:50 Borax and Icing sugar. You need something they take back to their
colony.

+1

I was advised that anything that attracts ants is best used outside the
house as that is where they first came from.

On 09/04/2018 14:35, Chris J Dixon wrote:
alan_m wrote:

My experience with any ultrasonic pest device is that they don't work.

Mine too.

I tried one, and the cats and squirrels were completely
unaffected. However, my partner's rather younger ears were
sufficiently sensitive to find it seriously irritating, so it
didn't stay in use very long.


I had one to deter cats from ****ting in my front garden flower bed. The
first time they encountered it did frighten them off work but within a
few days they just looked at it and carried on ****ting.


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On 4/9/2018 10:07 AM, Huge wrote:
On 2018-04-09, S Viemeister wrote:
On 4/9/2018 8:17 AM, alan_m wrote:

50:50 Borax and Icing sugar. You need something they take back to their
colony.

+1

Boric acid, not borax. From what I read, the former is more effective. After
2 or 3 days of feeding frenzy, the ants vanished completely.

I keep borax on hand for other purposes, so that's what I use. It does
seem to work.

On Monday, 9 April 2018 17:32:26 UTC+1, S Viemeister wrote:
On 4/9/2018 10:07 AM, Huge wrote:
On 2018-04-09, S Viemeister wrote:
On 4/9/2018 8:17 AM, alan_m wrote:

50:50 Borax and Icing sugar. You need something they take back to their
colony.

+1

Boric acid, not borax. From what I read, the former is more effective. After
2 or 3 days of feeding frenzy, the ants vanished completely.

I keep borax on hand for other purposes, so that's what I use. It does
seem to work.

Another thing that works is a can of fruit minus the fruit. I found that out by accident. I don't like to kill them, but nothing else gets them out and they're a real problem.


NT

alan_m wrote:
On 09/04/2018 14:35, Chris J Dixon wrote:
alan_m wrote:

My experience with any ultrasonic pest device is that they don't
work.

Mine too.

I tried one, and the cats and squirrels were completely
unaffected. However, my partner's rather younger ears were
sufficiently sensitive to find it seriously irritating, so it
didn't stay in use very long.


I had one to deter cats from ****ting in my front garden flower bed.
The first time they encountered it did frighten them off work but
within a few days they just looked at it and carried on ****ting.

Tried one. It did not work.
Went to Halfords, that worked.

On Mon, 9 Apr 2018 19:47:36 +0100
"Mr Pounder Esquire" wrote:

alan_m wrote:
On 09/04/2018 14:35, Chris J Dixon wrote:
alan_m wrote:

My experience with any ultrasonic pest device is that they don't
work.

Mine too.

I tried one, and the cats and squirrels were completely
unaffected. However, my partner's rather younger ears were
sufficiently sensitive to find it seriously irritating, so it
didn't stay in use very long.


I had one to deter cats from ****ting in my front garden flower bed.
The first time they encountered it did frighten them off work but
within a few days they just looked at it and carried on ****ting.

Tried one. It did not work.
Went to Halfords, that worked.



I've got cats ****ting in my front garden. The road outside my house is
on a school route. Children jump into my garden on the way to school.
Footprints in the cat**** cheer me up, a bit.

Vortex12 Wrote in message:
Hi,

Mild weather has brought ants back to our kitchen. This has been an
on/off problem for years. I would like to annihilate them once and for all.

Have built up a nice collection of powders and liquids over the
years...never entirely effective and I'd like to open up a new "front"
in the war.

I see on Amazon ultrasonic pest repellers (search for B078KNRF15) which
claim to work against ants.

I am dubious. Anybody got experience of ultrasonics for ant/insect
repelling? Does it work?

David





I have tried a number of generally available remedies.
The only way I have found to deter ants is to use Nippon powder
outside and Nippon ant gel inside.

The use of gel has to be continued for a period of up to 3 weeks,
replacing/renewing gel regularly.

Phil
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On 09/04/2018 15:34, Huge wrote:
On 2018-04-09, DerbyBorn wrote:


I was advised

Wrongly.

that anything that attracts ants is best used outside the
house as that is where they first came from.

When we had our boiler & HW replaced there were a couple of buckets of
fine sand behind them. Several years worth of ants.

Borax is a specific insecticide. It affects a part of their chemistry
that vertebrates don't have.

Andy

On 09/04/2018 10:02, Vortex12 wrote:
Hi,

Mild weather has brought ants back to our kitchen.Â* This has been an
on/off problem for years.Â* I would like to annihilate them once and for
all.

You probably can't. Which sort are they external garden ants coming in
or other indoor ones like pharaoh ants?

If you tidy up the kitchen so that there are no easy sources of food the
ants will not bother you. It can be surprising where they can get. A
"sealed" glass jar of candied peel proved not to be as sealed as we
thought and some enterprising ant scout found the weak spot.

One summer evening there was a trail of ants from the door to the jar
and back again.

Have built up a nice collection of powders and liquids over the
years...never entirely effective and I'd like to open up a new "front"
in the war.

I see on Amazon ultrasonic pest repellers (search for B078KNRF15) which
claim to work against ants.

I am dubious.Â* Anybody got experience of ultrasonics for ant/insect
repelling?Â* Does it work?

I can't see it working - at least not at sound pressure levels that
won't permanently damage human hearing.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

In article ,
Chris J Dixon wrote:
I tried one, and the cats and squirrels were completely
unaffected. However, my partner's rather younger ears were
sufficiently sensitive to find it seriously irritating, so it
didn't stay in use very long.

Not really ultrasonic if you can hear it?

--
*Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Chris J Dixon wrote:
I tried one, and the cats and squirrels were completely
unaffected. However, my partner's rather younger ears were
sufficiently sensitive to find it seriously irritating, so it
didn't stay in use very long.

Not really ultrasonic if you can hear it?

Sub-harmonics?

Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK


Plant amazing Acers.

On 10/04/2018 19:43, Chris J Dixon wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Chris J Dixon wrote:
I tried one, and the cats and squirrels were completely
unaffected. However, my partner's rather younger ears were
sufficiently sensitive to find it seriously irritating, so it
didn't stay in use very long.

Not really ultrasonic if you can hear it?

Sub-harmonics?

I've found that you can hear them as the switch on/off but not
necessarily when they have been fully on.


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On Tuesday, 10 April 2018 22:28:02 UTC+1, alan_m wrote:
On 10/04/2018 19:43, Chris J Dixon wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Chris J Dixon wrote:
I tried one, and the cats and squirrels were completely
unaffected. However, my partner's rather younger ears were
sufficiently sensitive to find it seriously irritating, so it
didn't stay in use very long.

Not really ultrasonic if you can hear it?

Sub-harmonics?

I've found that you can hear them as the switch on/off but not
necessarily when they have been fully on.

if not fully on they may not be producing just untrasonic.

In the same way I can run faster than usain bolt but can't when he is running fast.
I can also run faster than a formula 1 car provided it's parked.

On 11/04/18 10:20, whisky-dave wrote:
On Tuesday, 10 April 2018 22:28:02 UTC+1, alan_m wrote:
On 10/04/2018 19:43, Chris J Dixon wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Chris J Dixon wrote:
I tried one, and the cats and squirrels were completely
unaffected. However, my partner's rather younger ears were
sufficiently sensitive to find it seriously irritating, so it
didn't stay in use very long.

Not really ultrasonic if you can hear it?

Sub-harmonics?

I've found that you can hear them as the switch on/off but not
necessarily when they have been fully on.

if not fully on they may not be producing just untrasonic.

In the same way I can run faster than usain bolt but can't when he is running fast.
I can also run faster than a formula 1 car provided it's parked.



I've bever seen a formula one car run. I thought they had wheels, not feet?


--
Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the
gospel of envy.

Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.

Winston Churchill

On Wednesday, 11 April 2018 11:25:42 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 11/04/18 10:20, whisky-dave wrote:
On Tuesday, 10 April 2018 22:28:02 UTC+1, alan_m wrote:
On 10/04/2018 19:43, Chris J Dixon wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Chris J Dixon wrote:
I tried one, and the cats and squirrels were completely
unaffected. However, my partner's rather younger ears were
sufficiently sensitive to find it seriously irritating, so it
didn't stay in use very long.

Not really ultrasonic if you can hear it?

Sub-harmonics?

I've found that you can hear them as the switch on/off but not
necessarily when they have been fully on.

if not fully on they may not be producing just untrasonic.

In the same way I can run faster than usain bolt but can't when he is running fast.
I can also run faster than a formula 1 car provided it's parked.



I've bever seen a formula one car run. I thought they had wheels, not feet?

I thought they ran on tyres rather than wheels.
Trains run on wheels.


--
Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the
gospel of envy.

Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.

Winston Churchill