Clive Arthur Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 14:02, Jim K wrote:
ARW Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 11:42, Jim K wrote:
If you're up above the clouds its no. 2...

It's still blue if you are below the clouds.


--
Adam


Not at night.

Do things lose their colour when there is no light?

Yes.
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On 08/04/2018 18:16, Jim K wrote:
Clive Arthur Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 14:02, Jim K wrote:
ARW Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 11:42, Jim K wrote:
If you're up above the clouds its no. 2...

It's still blue if you are below the clouds.


--
Adam


Not at night.

Do things lose their colour when there is no light?

Yes.


So what colour is a blue football in a dark room?

--
Adam

On 08/04/2018 19:31, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , ARW
wrote:

On 08/04/2018 18:16, Jim K wrote:
Clive Arthur Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 14:02, Jim K wrote:
ARW Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 11:42, Jim K wrote:
If you're up above the clouds its no. 2...

It's still blue if you are below the clouds.

Not at night.

Do things lose their colour when there is no light?

Yes.

So what colour is a blue football in a dark room?

Black. The colour of something is a function of what light it reflects.
A black football reflects no light (pretty much) when light shines on
it. In a dark room it's reflecting no light, therefore it's black.

And you could make it look red by shining a strong red light on it.


I suspect that any answer less than 1,000 words would not be good enough
to satisfy an Oxbridge admissions tutor

(Though sadly I was never one. Nor did I have an interview with one.)

--
Robin
reply-to address is (intended to be) valid

Robin Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 19:31, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , ARW
wrote:

On 08/04/2018 18:16, Jim K wrote:
Clive Arthur Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 14:02, Jim K wrote:
ARW Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 11:42, Jim K wrote:
If you're up above the clouds its no. 2...

It's still blue if you are below the clouds.

Not at night.

Do things lose their colour when there is no light?

Yes.

So what colour is a blue football in a dark room?

Black. The colour of something is a function of what light it reflects.
A black football reflects no light (pretty much) when light shines on
it. In a dark room it's reflecting no light, therefore it's black.

And you could make it look red by shining a strong red light on it.


I suspect that any answer less than 1,000 words would not be good enough
to satisfy an Oxbridge admissions tutor

(Though sadly I was never one. Nor did I have an interview with one.)

It shows... - geddit? ;-)
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On 08/04/2018 20:24, Huge wrote:
On 2018-04-08, Robin wrote:
On 08/04/2018 19:31, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , ARW
wrote:

On 08/04/2018 18:16, Jim K wrote:
Clive Arthur Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 14:02, Jim K wrote:
ARW Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 11:42, Jim K wrote:
If you're up above the clouds its no. 2...

It's still blue if you are below the clouds.

Not at night.

Do things lose their colour when there is no light?

Yes.

So what colour is a blue football in a dark room?

Black. The colour of something is a function of what light it reflects.

No wonder you voted for Brexit. You're dumb enough.

And you come across as a typically abusive bad loser Remoaner.

Jim K wrote:

(Roger Hayter) Wrote in message:
Jim K wrote:

ARW Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 11:42, Jim K wrote:
If you're up above the clouds its no. 2...

It's still blue if you are below the clouds.


--
Adam


Not at night.

Yes it is, in at least some parts of the world.

"night

n??t/

noun

1.

the period from sunset to sunrise in each twenty-four hours."

OK. When it is night in one place then there is undoubtedly blue sky in
another place.

--

Roger Hayter

On 08/04/2018 17:41, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 08/04/2018 14:02, Jim K wrote:
ARW Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 11:42, Jim K wrote:
If you're up above the clouds its no. 2...

It's still blue if you are below the clouds.

Not at night.

Do things lose their colour when there is no light?

Cheers

That depends on whether you regard colour as a perceptual or physical
property.

--
Max Demian

On 08/04/2018 18:16, Jim K wrote:
Clive Arthur Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 14:02, Jim K wrote:
ARW Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 11:42, Jim K wrote:
If you're up above the clouds its no. 2...

It's still blue if you are below the clouds.


--
Adam


Not at night.

Do things lose their colour when there is no light?

Yes.


So the red socks in my sock drawer only become red when the drawer is
open? How do they retain their redness when the drawer is closed? They
are cotton socks (bless them) when I wear them, but who knows what evil
composition they have when they're in that drawer.

Socks thus violate the laws of God and must be destroyed. Praise the
sockless flip-flop for it both flippeth and floppeth according to God's
will.

Cheers
--
Clive

(Roger Hayter) Wrote in message:
Jim K wrote:

(Roger Hayter) Wrote in message:
Jim K wrote:

ARW Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 11:42, Jim K wrote:
If you're up above the clouds its no. 2...

It's still blue if you are below the clouds.


--
Adam


Not at night.

Yes it is, in at least some parts of the world.

"night

n??t/

noun

1.

the period from sunset to sunrise in each twenty-four hours."

OK. When it is night in one place then there is undoubtedly blue sky in
another place.

Er...
I refer you to the original question.
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Jim K wrote:

(Roger Hayter) Wrote in message:
Jim K wrote:

(Roger Hayter) Wrote in message:
Jim K wrote:

ARW Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 11:42, Jim K wrote:
If you're up above the clouds its no. 2...

It's still blue if you are below the clouds.


--
Adam


Not at night.

Yes it is, in at least some parts of the world.

"night

n??t/

noun

1.

the period from sunset to sunrise in each twenty-four hours."

OK. When it is night in one place then there is undoubtedly blue sky in
another place.

Er...
I refer you to the original question.

The question is framed as a logical proposition but says nothing about
the blue sky being at the same place as the possible answers. The
answer is clearly "none of these" can be determined.

--

Roger Hayter

On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 23:37:51 +0100, Clive Arthur wrote:

On 08/04/2018 18:16, Jim K wrote:
Clive Arthur Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 14:02, Jim K wrote:
ARW Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 11:42, Jim K wrote:
If you're up above the clouds its no. 2...

It's still blue if you are below the clouds.


--
Adam


Not at night.

Do things lose their colour when there is no light?

Yes.


So the red socks in my sock drawer only become red when the drawer is
open? How do they retain their redness when the drawer is closed? They
are cotton socks (bless them) when I wear them, but who knows what evil
composition they have when they're in that drawer.

Socks thus violate the laws of God and must be destroyed. Praise the
sockless flip-flop for it both flippeth and floppeth according to God's
will.

Provided Socks don't violate the laws of Quantum Physics (and, in this
case, they don't), does it really matter?

--
Johnny B Good

On 08/04/18 17:41, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 08/04/2018 14:02, Jim K wrote:
ARW Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 11:42, Jim K wrote:
If you're up above the clouds its no. 2...

It's still blue if you are below the clouds.


--
Adam


Not at night.

Do things lose their colour when there is no light?
Mate they lose their colour when no one is looking...


Cheers


--
New Socialism consists essentially in being seen to have your heart in
the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in
someone else's pocket.

On 08/04/18 18:24, ARW wrote:
On 08/04/2018 18:16, Jim K wrote:
Clive Arthur Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 14:02, Jim K wrote:
ARW Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 11:42, Jim K wrote:
If you're up above the clouds its no. 2...

It's still blue if you are below the clouds.


--
Adam


Not at night.

Do things lose their colour when there is no light?

Yes.


So what colour is a blue football in a dark room?

Black


--
New Socialism consists essentially in being seen to have your heart in
the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in
someone else's pocket.

On 08/04/18 20:24, Huge wrote:
On 2018-04-08, Robin wrote:
On 08/04/2018 19:31, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , ARW
wrote:

On 08/04/2018 18:16, Jim K wrote:
Clive Arthur Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 14:02, Jim K wrote:
ARW Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 11:42, Jim K wrote:
If you're up above the clouds its no. 2...

It's still blue if you are below the clouds.

Not at night.

Do things lose their colour when there is no light?

Yes.

So what colour is a blue football in a dark room?

Black. The colour of something is a function of what light it reflects.

No wonder you voted for Brexit. You're dumb enough.

No wonder you voted remain. You're dumb enough.


--
"It is an established fact to 97% confidence limits that left wing
conspirators see right wing conspiracies everywhere"

On 08/04/18 20:40, Fredxx wrote:
On 08/04/2018 20:24, Huge wrote:
On 2018-04-08, Robin wrote:
On 08/04/2018 19:31, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , ARW
wrote:

On 08/04/2018 18:16, Jim K wrote:
Clive Arthur Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 14:02, Jim K wrote:
ARW Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 11:42, Jim K wrote:
If you're up above the clouds its no. 2...

It's still blue if you are below the clouds.

Not at night.

Do things lose their colour when there is no light?

Yes.

So what colour is a blue football in a dark room?

Black. The colour of something is a function of what light it reflects.

No wonder you voted for Brexit. You're dumb enough.

And you come across as a typically abusive bad loser Remoaner.

A typically abusive bad loser STUPID Remoaner. Please.


--
"It is an established fact to 97% confidence limits that left wing
conspirators see right wing conspiracies everywhere"

On 08/04/18 23:18, Max Demian wrote:
On 08/04/2018 17:41, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 08/04/2018 14:02, Jim K wrote:
ARW Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 11:42, Jim K wrote:
If you're up above the clouds its no. 2...

It's still blue if you are below the clouds.

Not at night.

Do things lose their colour when there is no light?

Cheers

That depends on whether you regard colour as a perceptual or physical
property.

Makes no difference. Even if blue is a specific physical spectral
pattern, that pattern is not present in a dark room.


--
"It is an established fact to 97% confidence limits that left wing
conspirators see right wing conspiracies everywhere"

On 08/04/18 23:37, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 08/04/2018 18:16, Jim K wrote:
Clive Arthur Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 14:02, Jim K wrote:
ARW Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 11:42, Jim K wrote:
If you're up above the clouds its no. 2...

It's still blue if you are below the clouds.


--
Adam


Not at night.

Do things lose their colour when there is no light?

Yes.


So the red socks in my sock drawer only become red when the drawer is
open?Â* How do they retain their redness when the drawer is closed?

They don't.

They
are cotton socks (bless them) when I wear them, but who knows what evil
composition they have when they're in that drawer.


Exactly. Schrödinger socks.

Socks thus violate the laws of God and must be destroyed.Â* Praise the
sockless flip-flop for it both flippeth and floppeth according to God's
will.

Cheers

That's two complete idiots on this NG who can't separate descriptions
from facts. Probably both pro EU and socialism...

Google "Theseus' ship" and "Korzybski"


--
"It is an established fact to 97% confidence limits that left wing
conspirators see right wing conspiracies everywhere"

On 09/04/18 04:24, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 08/04/18 20:24, Huge wrote:
On 2018-04-08, Robin wrote:
On 08/04/2018 19:31, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , ARW
wrote:

On 08/04/2018 18:16, Jim K wrote:
Clive Arthur Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 14:02, Jim K wrote:
ARW Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 11:42, Jim K wrote:
If you're up above the clouds its no. 2...

It's still blue if you are below the clouds.

Not at night.

Do things lose their colour when there is no light?

Yes.

So what colour is a blue football in a dark room?

Black. The colour of something is a function of what light it reflects.

No wonder you voted for Brexit. You're dumb enough.

No wonder you voted remain. You're dumb enough.

Oh crap. Now you and Huge have done it. T i m will be along soon
declaring that only non-dumb people didn't vote or spoiled their papers.

ARW Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 18:16, Jim K wrote:
Clive Arthur Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 14:02, Jim K wrote:
ARW Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 11:42, Jim K wrote:
If you're up above the clouds its no. 2...

It's still blue if you are below the clouds.


--
Adam


Not at night.

Do things lose their colour when there is no light?

Yes.


So what colour is a blue football in a dark room?

--
Adam


It shows no colour.
What colour is your football under an orange streetlight?
--
Jim K


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On Mon, 9 Apr 2018 06:50:11 +0100, Richard
wrote:

snip.

Oh crap. Now you and Huge have done it.

It's about time either actually did something.

T i m will be along soon
declaring that only non-dumb people didn't vote or spoiled their papers.


"Ok electorate. We (a tiny minority) want you to answer a poll on
something (that should really only be advisory) that most of you have
no real opinions on or previously hadn't really thought about and
where we have no way of promising you will get any of what you vote
for, even if you actually knew what you were voting for yourselves. We
will consider it a true reflection of the will of the people no matter
how many people actually vote and one more vote on one side will be
counted as a win.

So, do you want to leave the EU? Yes / No."

(Farrige: "And if remain don't get at least 2/3rds of the votes I'll
not count it as a win. If we get one more vote than remain I will).

Yeah, that sounds like something dreamed up by someone looking out for
the best for 'the people' ... not.

It was something dreamed up and manipulated (referendum polls are non
binding in the UK) by a minority of people on a crusade and tricked
people into thinking they had to answer an analogue question with a
binary answer.

As a straight poll, that would have been ok:

"Would you like us to LOOK INTO the UK leaving the EU". Yes / No.

Cheers, T i m

p.s. It was all ok for you 'Dick' because as a left brainer you *can*
give a binary answer to an analogue question and you will be convinced
you have sufficient information to do so ... that it *is* going to be
the best for you (at least) and that there is no risk (that *you*
aren't willing to take).

I think, probably deliberately, you miss the whole point of human detection!


Brian

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"soup" wrote in message
...
On 08/04/2018 09:50, ARW wrote:
Four?

Nope it is 4.

Just had to prove that I was a human to send off a submission on a
website and that was their question and answer.

Anyone else agree that the answer is four and not 4?

From the "don't really understand the nuances but still want to be a
smartarse "department.

Erm for high enough values of 2, 2+2=5

to 1 significant figure

2.3 +2.3 =4.6 is 2+2=5

On 09/04/18 09:22, T i m wrote:
On Mon, 9 Apr 2018 06:50:11 +0100, Richard
wrote:

snip.

Oh crap. Now you and Huge have done it.

It's about time either actually did something.

T i m will be along soon
declaring that only non-dumb people didn't vote or spoiled their papers.


"Ok electorate. We (a tiny minority) want you to answer a poll on
something (that should really only be advisory) that most of you have
no real opinions on or previously hadn't really thought about and
where we have no way of promising you will get any of what you vote
for, even if you actually knew what you were voting for yourselves. We
will consider it a true reflection of the will of the people no matter
how many people actually vote and one more vote on one side will be
counted as a win.

So, do you want to leave the EU? Yes / No."

(Farrige: "And if remain don't get at least 2/3rds of the votes I'll
not count it as a win. If we get one more vote than remain I will).

Yeah, that sounds like something dreamed up by someone looking out for
the best for 'the people' ... not.

It was something dreamed up and manipulated (referendum polls are non
binding in the UK) by a minority of people on a crusade and tricked
people into thinking they had to answer an analogue question with a
binary answer.

As a straight poll, that would have been ok:

"Would you like us to LOOK INTO the UK leaving the EU". Yes / No.

Cheers, T i m

p.s. It was all ok for you 'Dick' because as a left brainer you *can*
give a binary answer to an analogue question and you will be convinced
you have sufficient information to do so ... that it *is* going to be
the best for you (at least) and that there is no risk (that *you*
aren't willing to take).


LMAO

(Roger Hayter) Wrote in message:
Jim K wrote:

(Roger Hayter) Wrote in message:
Jim K wrote:

(Roger Hayter) Wrote in message:
Jim K wrote:

ARW Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 11:42, Jim K wrote:
If you're up above the clouds its no. 2...

It's still blue if you are below the clouds.


--
Adam


Not at night.

Yes it is, in at least some parts of the world.

"night

n??t/

noun

1.

the period from sunset to sunrise in each twenty-four hours."

OK. When it is night in one place then there is undoubtedly blue sky in
another place.

Er...
I refer you to the original question.

The question is framed as a logical proposition but says nothing about
the blue sky being at the same place as the possible answers. The
answer is clearly "none of these" can be determined.


Er..
I refer you to the original answers.
--
Jim K

On Sunday, 8 April 2018 10:14:05 UTC+1, T i m wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 09:50:04 +0100, ARW
wrote:

Four?

Nope it is 4.

Just had to prove that I was a human to send off a submission on a
website and that was their question and answer.

Anyone else agree that the answer is four and not 4?

Don't ask whisky-dave, he'll come up with anything but 4 (four)! ;-)

you were the one to come up with that.

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
news
Question
If the sky is blue which of the following is true
It is a sunny day
It is daytime
It is cloudy.

Erm.
Its actually the first one.

The whole idea is to use the way a human parses the phrases as against the
way machines do it. Sadly, i suppose that they have to keep coming up with
new ones and as AI improves its a hiding to nothing anyway. You end up
having to employ somebody to watch out for spammers.
Brian


--

I would have said all of them could be true, assuming it's not entirely
cloudy.
--
Dave W

On Monday, 9 April 2018 14:34:30 UTC+1, Dave W wrote:
"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
news
Question
If the sky is blue which of the following is true
It is a sunny day
It is daytime
It is cloudy.

Erm.
Its actually the first one.

The whole idea is to use the way a human parses the phrases as against the
way machines do it. Sadly, i suppose that they have to keep coming up with
new ones and as AI improves its a hiding to nothing anyway. You end up
having to employ somebody to watch out for spammers.
Brian


--

I would have said all of them could be true, assuming it's not entirely
cloudy.
--
Dave W

I'd say it could be a dodgey question as we only see light scatter and not the actual sky, we can see clouds. Later the 'sky' may well turn red as the sun sets so I'd say the sky doesn't really have a colour but it wioll appear blue to our eyes because of the way blue light scatters and that;s what we see if there's no clouds and the sky is clear it looks blue.

On 09/04/2018 09:38, Brian Gaff wrote:
I think, probably deliberately, you miss the whole point of human detection!

Who me, judge?

On 09/04/18 14:23, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Mon, 09 Apr 2018 04:22:25 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 08/04/18 17:41, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 08/04/2018 14:02, Jim K wrote:
ARW Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 11:42, Jim K wrote:
If you're up above the clouds its no. 2...

It's still blue if you are below the clouds.


--
Adam


Not at night.

Do things lose their colour when there is no light?
Mate they lose their colour when no one is looking...


Cheers

An assertion it's impossible to disprove ...

Exactly.

You are progressing well grasshopper.

Soon you will understand that all 'facts' are based on assertions that
are impossible to disprove.



--
"I guess a rattlesnake ain't risponsible fer bein' a rattlesnake, but ah
puts mah heel on um jess the same if'n I catches him around mah chillun".

On 10/04/2018 10:59, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 09/04/18 14:23, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Mon, 09 Apr 2018 04:22:25 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 08/04/18 17:41, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 08/04/2018 14:02, Jim K wrote:
ARW Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 11:42, Jim K wrote:
If you're up above the clouds its no. 2...



I've noticed a lot of websites now just ask for box to be ticked to
confirm you are a real person. The squirly numbers and math questions
always seemed unnecessary to me.

Mike

In article , ARW
writes
On 08/04/2018 18:16, Jim K wrote:
Clive Arthur Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 14:02, Jim K wrote:
ARW Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 11:42, Jim K wrote:
If you're up above the clouds its no. 2...

It's still blue if you are below the clouds.


-- Adam


Not at night.

Do things lose their colour when there is no light?
Yes.


So what colour is a blue football in a dark room?

It has no colour - which we call black.
--
bert

In article , Richard
writes
On 09/04/18 04:24, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 08/04/18 20:24, Huge wrote:
On 2018-04-08, Robin wrote:
On 08/04/2018 19:31, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , ARW
wrote:

On 08/04/2018 18:16, Jim K wrote:
Clive Arthur Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 14:02, Jim K wrote:
ARW Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 11:42, Jim K wrote:
If you're up above the clouds its no. 2...

It's still blue if you are below the clouds.

Not at night.

Do things lose their colour when there is no light?

Yes.

So what colour is a blue football in a dark room?

Black. The colour of something is a function of what light it reflects.

No wonder you voted for Brexit. You're dumb enough.

No wonder you voted remain. You're dumb enough.

Oh crap. Now you and Huge have done it. T i m will be along soon
declaring that only non-dumb people didn't vote or spoiled their papers.

Which half of the brain does colour?
--
bert

In article , Richard
writes
On 09/04/18 09:22, T i m wrote:
On Mon, 9 Apr 2018 06:50:11 +0100, Richard
wrote:
snip.

Oh crap. Now you and Huge have done it.
It's about time either actually did something.

T i m will be along soon
declaring that only non-dumb people didn't vote or spoiled their papers.

"Ok electorate. We (a tiny minority) want you to answer a poll on
something (that should really only be advisory) that most of you have
no real opinions on or previously hadn't really thought about and
where we have no way of promising you will get any of what you vote
for, even if you actually knew what you were voting for yourselves. We
will consider it a true reflection of the will of the people no matter
how many people actually vote and one more vote on one side will be
counted as a win.
So, do you want to leave the EU? Yes / No."
(Farrige: "And if remain don't get at least 2/3rds of the votes I'll
not count it as a win. If we get one more vote than remain I will).
Yeah, that sounds like something dreamed up by someone looking out
for
the best for 'the people' ... not.
It was something dreamed up and manipulated (referendum polls are
non
binding in the UK) by a minority of people on a crusade and tricked
people into thinking they had to answer an analogue question with a
binary answer.
As a straight poll, that would have been ok:
"Would you like us to LOOK INTO the UK leaving the EU". Yes / No.
Cheers, T i m
p.s. It was all ok for you 'Dick' because as a left brainer you
*can*
give a binary answer to an analogue question and you will be convinced
you have sufficient information to do so ... that it *is* going to be
the best for you (at least) and that there is no risk (that *you*
aren't willing to take).


LMAO
+1
--
bert

On Tuesday, 10 April 2018 13:42:51 UTC+1, bert wrote:
In article , ARW
writes
On 08/04/2018 18:16, Jim K wrote:
Clive Arthur Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 14:02, Jim K wrote:
ARW Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 11:42, Jim K wrote:
If you're up above the clouds its no. 2...

It's still blue if you are below the clouds.


-- Adam


Not at night.

Do things lose their colour when there is no light?
Yes.


So what colour is a blue football in a dark room?

It has no colour - which we call black.
--
bert

There's no such thing as colour it's all a visual representation of the wavelenght of the light we see, and how we divide it up in order to describe it.
A bit like Bass, middle and treble in audio, colours are just a useful way of describing what we see.

On 10/04/18 14:02, whisky-dave wrote:
On Tuesday, 10 April 2018 13:42:51 UTC+1, bert wrote:
In article , ARW
writes
On 08/04/2018 18:16, Jim K wrote:
Clive Arthur Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 14:02, Jim K wrote:
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On 08/04/2018 11:42, Jim K wrote:
If you're up above the clouds its no. 2...

It's still blue if you are below the clouds.


-- Adam


Not at night.

Do things lose their colour when there is no light?
Yes.


So what colour is a blue football in a dark room?

It has no colour - which we call black.
--
bert

There's no such thing as colour it's all a visual representation of the wavelenght of the light we see, and how we divide it up in order to describe it.
A bit like Bass, middle and treble in audio, colours are just a useful way of describing what we see.

There's no such thing as reality. Just a description.



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The lifetime of any political organisation is about three years before
its been subverted by the people it tried to warn you about.

Anon.

The Natural Philosopher Wrote in message:
On 10/04/18 14:02, whisky-dave wrote:
On Tuesday, 10 April 2018 13:42:51 UTC+1, bert wrote:
In article , ARW
writes
On 08/04/2018 18:16, Jim K wrote:
Clive Arthur Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 14:02, Jim K wrote:
ARW Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 11:42, Jim K wrote:
If you're up above the clouds its no. 2...

It's still blue if you are below the clouds.


-- Adam


Not at night.

Do things lose their colour when there is no light?
Yes.


So what colour is a blue football in a dark room?

It has no colour - which we call black.
--
bert

There's no such thing as colour it's all a visual representation of the wavelenght of the light we see, and how we divide it up in order to describe it.
A bit like Bass, middle and treble in audio, colours are just a useful way of describing what we see.

There's no such thing as reality. Just a description.

Perception shurely?
--
Jim K

On 09/04/2018 08:54, Jim K wrote:
ARW Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 18:16, Jim K wrote:
Clive Arthur Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 14:02, Jim K wrote:
ARW Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 11:42, Jim K wrote:
If you're up above the clouds its no. 2...

It's still blue if you are below the clouds.


--
Adam


Not at night.

Do things lose their colour when there is no light?

Yes.


So what colour is a blue football in a dark room?

--
Adam


It shows no colour.
What colour is your football under an orange streetlight?


Depends if I am looking at or not.

--
Adam

ARW Wrote in message:
On 09/04/2018 08:54, Jim K wrote:
ARW Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 18:16, Jim K wrote:
Clive Arthur Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 14:02, Jim K wrote:
ARW Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 11:42, Jim K wrote:
If you're up above the clouds its no. 2...

It's still blue if you are below the clouds.


--
Adam


Not at night.

Do things lose their colour when there is no light?

Yes.


So what colour is a blue football in a dark room?

--
Adam


It shows no colour.
What colour is your football under an orange streetlight?


Depends if I am looking at or not.

Now you're getting it :-D
--
Jim K

ARW wrote:
Anyone else agree that the answer is four and not 4?

For those interested in the relevant mathematical philosophy
behind such questions, you might try:

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/41654

Mind you, even the definition of 1 (one) is pretty hard going :-)

:-)

#Paul

On 10/04/18 17:53, Jim K wrote:
The Natural Philosopher Wrote in message:
On 10/04/18 14:02, whisky-dave wrote:
On Tuesday, 10 April 2018 13:42:51 UTC+1, bert wrote:
In article , ARW
writes
On 08/04/2018 18:16, Jim K wrote:
Clive Arthur Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 14:02, Jim K wrote:
ARW Wrote in message:
On 08/04/2018 11:42, Jim K wrote:
If you're up above the clouds its no. 2...

It's still blue if you are below the clouds.


-- Adam


Not at night.

Do things lose their colour when there is no light?
Yes.


So what colour is a blue football in a dark room?

It has no colour - which we call black.
--
bert

There's no such thing as colour it's all a visual representation of the wavelenght of the light we see, and how we divide it up in order to describe it.
A bit like Bass, middle and treble in audio, colours are just a useful way of describing what we see.

There's no such thing as reality. Just a description.

Perception shurely?

Yes, perception is a description, if anything is perceived.



--
€œIt is hard to imagine a more stupid decision or more dangerous way of
making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people
who pay no price for being wrong.€�

Thomas Sowell

On 10/04/18 21:36, wrote:
ARW wrote:
Anyone else agree that the answer is four and not 4?

For those interested in the relevant mathematical philosophy
behind such questions, you might try:

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/41654


crashed firefox , produced an unreadable file.


Mind you, even the definition of 1 (one) is pretty hard going :-)

:-)

#Paul



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There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale
returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact.

Mark Twain