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In view of my historic , and generally lost battles with PTFE tape, I am now
contemplating the use of LS-X compound with my new radiator valves, and I would value comment on this please. -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/uk-diy...e-1278428-.htm |
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Bryan Mitchell wrote:
I am now contemplating the use of LS-X compound with my new radiator valves I have used LS-X on a two 'tricky' connections that wouldn't seal (one a plastic sink waste, the other a rad valve where the pipe was a bit on the slant) it worked in both cases. |
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Bryan Mitchell wrote:
In view of my historic , and generally lost battles with PTFE tape, I am now contemplating the use of LS-X compound with my new radiator valves, and I would value comment on this please. I have an ancient tub of Boss Green (which is currently separating, like putty does), and it's generally worked well, although I find that for high pressure, PTFE is more reliable. Sometimes I use both (paste covered in tape), and that has never once let me down :-) I assume LS-X is similar? |
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Dan S. MacAbre wrote:
I have an ancient tub of Boss Green [...] I assume LS-X is similar? It's like silicone gunge that doesn't go off ... |
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Andy Burns wrote: Dan S. MacAbre wrote: I have an ancient tub of Boss Green [...] I assume LS-X is similar? It's like silicone gunge that doesn't go off ... It certainly does after time. Got a part used tube which was solid. -- *Do infants enjoy infancy as much as adults enjoy adultery? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Dave Plowman wrote:
[LS-X] Andy Burns wrote: It's like silicone gunge that doesn't go off ... It certainly does after time. Got a part used tube which was solid. well, it claims to never set completely ... |
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In view of my historic , and generally lost battles with PTFE tape, I am
now contemplating the use of LS-X compound with my new radiator valves, and I would value comment on this please. Loctite 572 for coarse threads and Locitite 542 for finer threads (below 3/4 BSP). I use them for water, gas, oil, compressed air and hydraulic fluids and haven't had a failure yet (silly thing to say !!!) Andrew |
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Andy Burns wrote: Dave Plowman wrote: [LS-X] Andy Burns wrote: It's like silicone gunge that doesn't go off ... It certainly does after time. Got a part used tube which was solid. well, it claims to never set completely ... That is likely true, but here it set in the tube enough to be useless. No criticism of the product though, which is very good. -- *Work like you don't need the money. Love like you've never been hurt. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Andy Burns wrote:
Dan S. MacAbre wrote: I have an ancient tub of Boss Green [...] I assume LS-X is similar? It's like silicone gunge that doesn't go off ... The Boss Green I have is like silicone-based putty. But instead of having the linseed oil dry up, over the decades, it separates into what I assume is 'siliconey' oil, and hard bits. |
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On 29/03/2018 13:44, Bryan Mitchell wrote:
In view of my historic , and generally lost battles with PTFE tape, I am now contemplating the use of LS-X compound with my new radiator valves, and I would value comment on this please. I always have a tube on hand for difficult situations... I generally find I don't need it, but now and then its very handy. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 29/03/2018 13:44, Bryan Mitchell wrote:
In view of my historic , and generally lost battles with PTFE tape, I am now contemplating the use of LS-X compound with my new radiator valves, and I would value comment on this please. What's your problem with PTFE tape? I always use tape intended for gas connections - it's thicker and stronger than the standard stuff. Also, when fitting radiator valve tails into new rads, I run a 1/2" BSP tap into the hole first to make sure there are no rough bits on the thread. -- Cheers, Roger ____________ Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom checked. |
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"Roger Mills" wrote in message ... On 29/03/2018 13:44, Bryan Mitchell wrote: In view of my historic , and generally lost battles with PTFE tape, I am now contemplating the use of LS-X compound with my new radiator valves, and I would value comment on this please. What's your problem with PTFE tape? I always use tape intended for gas connections - it's thicker and stronger than the standard stuff. Also, when fitting radiator valve tails into new rads, I run a 1/2" BSP tap into the hole first to make sure there are no rough bits on the thread. -- Cheers, Roger ____________ Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom checked. Here's an "old and new" idea..... My dad always used hemp and boss white on screwed joints, so I've modified this a bit, and on awkward threaded joints (ie outside taps that inevitably end up 30 degrees from where you wanted them) I use hemp and LSX. Jams nicely where I want, no leaks (so far), and works well on rad tails too. I've got enough hemp to last me 40 years at current limited rate of use, but rather to my surprise found it's still readily available in hanks. Just a thought....... Charles F --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On Thursday, 29 March 2018 17:37:23 UTC+1, Charles F wrote:
"Roger Mills" wrote in message ... On 29/03/2018 13:44, Bryan Mitchell wrote: In view of my historic , and generally lost battles with PTFE tape, I am now contemplating the use of LS-X compound with my new radiator valves, and I would value comment on this please. What's your problem with PTFE tape? I always use tape intended for gas connections - it's thicker and stronger than the standard stuff. Also, when fitting radiator valve tails into new rads, I run a 1/2" BSP tap into the hole first to make sure there are no rough bits on the thread. -- Cheers, Roger ____________ Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom checked. Here's an "old and new" idea..... My dad always used hemp and boss white on screwed joints, so I've modified this a bit, and on awkward threaded joints (ie outside taps that inevitably end up 30 degrees from where you wanted them) I use hemp and LSX. Jams nicely where I want, no leaks (so far), and works well on rad tails too. I've got enough hemp to last me 40 years at current limited rate of use, but rather to my surprise found it's still readily available in hanks. Just a thought....... Charles F FWIW you can also use cheap rope in lieu of hemp. It degrades due to UV, which isn't found inside plumbing joints, and lasts well in the dark. I can't remember which plastic it was, PP I think, id the rope & check its properties online. PE I would not use. NT |
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Bryan Mitchell presented the following explanation :
In view of my historic , and generally lost battles with PTFE tape, I am now contemplating the use of LS-X compound with my new radiator valves, and I would value comment on this please. Plumber's Mate was suggested to me, as able to seal the impossible. I spent two days struggling to get a seal on two wash basin drains, I tried PTFE, Boss White - neither worked, but PM did first try. Its a none setting sort of mastic, difficult to get it to stay put on the thing you are trying to seal, it prefers to pull back off on your fingers, but if you persist it is squishy enough to seal any gaps in your application. Unlike Boss White, it doesn't set in the pot. I used what I bought around three years ago, to TV's all round my heating circuit. I filled up and tested for leaks today, there were none. |
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Sealant tends to end up like little rubbery soft balls I find in this sort
of context. Brian -- ----- - This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please! "Bryan Mitchell" m wrote in message ... In view of my historic , and generally lost battles with PTFE tape, I am now contemplating the use of LS-X compound with my new radiator valves, and I would value comment on this please. -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/uk-diy...e-1278428-.htm |
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On 29/03/2018 15:01, Dan S. MacAbre wrote:
Andy Burns wrote: Dan S. MacAbre wrote: I have an ancient tub of Boss Green [...] I assume LS-X is similar? It's like silicone gunge that doesn't go off ... The Boss Green I have is like silicone-based putty.Â* But instead of having the linseed oil dry up, over the decades, it separates into what I assume is 'siliconey' oil, and hard bits. Just stir and mix it. It will come back to life just like an old tub of putty will. |
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On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 18:39:34 +0100
Harry Bloomfield wrote: Plumber's Mate Plumber's mait was suggested to me, as able to seal the impossible. I spent two days struggling to get a seal on two wash basin drains, I tried PTFE, Boss White - neither worked, but PM did first try. Its a none setting sort of mastic, difficult to get it to stay put on the thing you are trying to seal, it prefers to pull back off on your fingers Wet your fingers. |
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On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 12:44:06 GMT, Bryan Mitchell wrote:
In view of my historic , and generally lost battles with PTFE tape, I am now contemplating the use of LS-X compound with my new radiator valves, and I would value comment on this please. You are wrapping it the right way round the tail so that the action of screwing it in tightens the tape on to the tail rather than loosening it. And you are putting enough turns on, lightly tensioned? "enough" being enough to fill the threads. -- Cheers Dave. |
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On Thursday, 29 March 2018 21:20:09 UTC+1, Rob Morley wrote:
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 18:39:34 +0100 Harry Bloomfield wrote: Plumber's Mate Plumber's mait was suggested to me, as able to seal the impossible. I spent two days struggling to get a seal on two wash basin drains, I tried PTFE, Boss White - neither worked, but PM did first try. Its a none setting sort of mastic, difficult to get it to stay put on the thing you are trying to seal, it prefers to pull back off on your fingers Wet your fingers. Boss White is linseed putty, just thinner than the glazier's version. Too thin imho. NT |
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Andrew wrote:
On 29/03/2018 15:01, Dan S. MacAbre wrote: Andy Burns wrote: Dan S. MacAbre wrote: I have an ancient tub of Boss Green [...] I assume LS-X is similar? It's like silicone gunge that doesn't go off ... The Boss Green I have is like silicone-based putty. But instead of having the linseed oil dry up, over the decades, it separates into what I assume is 'siliconey' oil, and hard bits. Just stir and mix it. It will come back to life just like an old tub of putty will. I do, but it takes a bit more than stirring :-) More a sort of prolonged chopping action with a small scraper. |
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On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 14:56:25 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Andy Burns wrote: Dave Plowman wrote: [LS-X] Andy Burns wrote: It's like silicone gunge that doesn't go off ... It certainly does after time. Got a part used tube which was solid. well, it claims to never set completely ... That is likely true, but here it set in the tube enough to be useless. No criticism of the product though, which is very good. Unlike a modern equivalent of Boss White that states its life to be 1 year from /date of manufacture/ and /if unopened/! (so it could be u/s from 'new'), I found a can of Boss White under the hedg at the top of the garden. Knowing when the main supply had been repaired, that can had been there for ~15 years. It had a rusted hole in it, the contents were more encapsulated than sinned over but, inside, it was still useable. -- Peter. The gods will stay away whilst religions hold sway |
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On 29/03/2018 15:15, John Rumm wrote:
On 29/03/2018 13:44, Bryan Mitchell wrote: In view of my historic , and generally lost battles with PTFE tape, I am now contemplating the use of LS-X compound with my new radiator valves, and I would valueÂ* comment on this please. I always have a tube on hand for difficult situations... I generally find I don't need it, but now and then its very handy. +1 (my current one is Flowmasta Liquid PTFE). |
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