On 23/03/2018 10:45, Andy Burns wrote:
Tim Streater wrote:

The recycling bin goes out every two weeks

At the moment we get weekly collections of both wheelie bins (I choose
to put them out less frequently) but I gather the collections are due to
alternate between recycling and rubbish later this year ... might bother
larger households.

If it is anything like where we are, they'll have a system to cope with
larger housholds.

Our normal system is:

Green bin, 240l - food waste (plus garden waste if you pay an extra £40
a year) - collected weekly.

Grey bin, 120l - non-recyclable waste - collected fortnightly.

Blue bin, 240l - carboard and paper - collected monthly.

Black bin, 240l - plastic bottles, tins, cans and glass bottles -
collected monthly.

Leading to the green bin, plus one other, being collected every week.

For households with 5 or more residents, a 240l grey bin can be
requested instead of the 120l one. Additional blue and black bins can
also be requested.

SteveW

On 23/03/2018 13:46, Steve Walker wrote:
On 23/03/2018 10:45, Andy Burns wrote:
Tim Streater wrote:

The recycling bin goes out every two weeks

At the moment we get weekly collections of both wheelie bins (I choose
to put them out less frequently) but I gather the collections are due
to alternate between recycling and rubbish later this year ... might
bother larger households.

If it is anything like where we are, they'll have a system to cope with
larger housholds.

Our normal system is:

Green bin, 240l - food waste (plus garden waste if you pay an extra £40
a year) - collected weekly.

Grey bin, 120l - non-recyclable waste - collected fortnightly.

Blue bin, 240l - carboard and paper - collected monthly.

Black bin, 240l - plastic bottles, tins, cans and glass bottles -
collected monthly.

Leading to the green bin, plus one other, being collected every week.

For households with 5 or more residents, a 240l grey bin can be
requested instead of the 120l one. Additional blue and black bins can
also be requested.

SteveW

What sort of people discard 240 litres of food waste every week ?.

On 24/03/2018 10:59, Andrew wrote:
On 23/03/2018 13:46, Steve Walker wrote:
On 23/03/2018 10:45, Andy Burns wrote:
Tim Streater wrote:

The recycling bin goes out every two weeks

At the moment we get weekly collections of both wheelie bins (I
choose to put them out less frequently) but I gather the collections
are due to alternate between recycling and rubbish later this year
... might bother larger households.

If it is anything like where we are, they'll have a system to cope
with larger housholds.

Our normal system is:

Green bin, 240l - food waste (plus garden waste if you pay an extra
£40 a year) - collected weekly.

Grey bin, 120l - non-recyclable waste - collected fortnightly.

Blue bin, 240l - carboard and paper - collected monthly.

Black bin, 240l - plastic bottles, tins, cans and glass bottles -
collected monthly.

Leading to the green bin, plus one other, being collected every week.

For households with 5 or more residents, a 240l grey bin can be
requested instead of the 120l one. Additional blue and black bins can
also be requested.

What sort of people discard 240 litres of food waste every week ?.

No idea, but SteveW was talking about a 240l grey bin,I.E
non recyclable (landfill)

Grey NOT green

On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 12:10:16 +0000, soup wrote:

On 24/03/2018 10:59, Andrew wrote:
On 23/03/2018 13:46, Steve Walker wrote:
On 23/03/2018 10:45, Andy Burns wrote:
Tim Streater wrote:

The recycling bin goes out every two weeks

At the moment we get weekly collections of both wheelie bins (I
choose to put them out less frequently) but I gather the collections
are due to alternate between recycling and rubbish later this year
... might bother larger households.

If it is anything like where we are, they'll have a system to cope
with larger housholds.

Our normal system is:

Green bin, 240l - food waste (plus garden waste if you pay an extra
£40 a year) - collected weekly.

Grey bin, 120l - non-recyclable waste - collected fortnightly.

Blue bin, 240l - carboard and paper - collected monthly.

Black bin, 240l - plastic bottles, tins, cans and glass bottles -
collected monthly.

Leading to the green bin, plus one other, being collected every week.

For households with 5 or more residents, a 240l grey bin can be
requested instead of the 120l one. Additional blue and black bins can
also be requested.

What sort of people discard 240 litres of food waste every week ?.

No idea, but SteveW was talking about a 240l grey bin,I.E non recyclable
(landfill)

Grey NOT green

He also mentions a 240l green bin for food waste, but if he'd read it
properly, he'd have seen it was optionally for garden waste as well.

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On 24/03/2018 12:21, Bob Eager wrote:
On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 12:10:16 +0000, soup wrote:

On 24/03/2018 10:59, Andrew wrote:
On 23/03/2018 13:46, Steve Walker wrote:
On 23/03/2018 10:45, Andy Burns wrote:
Tim Streater wrote:

The recycling bin goes out every two weeks

At the moment we get weekly collections of both wheelie bins (I
choose to put them out less frequently) but I gather the collections
are due to alternate between recycling and rubbish later this year
... might bother larger households.

If it is anything like where we are, they'll have a system to cope
with larger housholds.

Our normal system is:

Green bin, 240l - food waste (plus garden waste if you pay an extra
£40 a year) - collected weekly.

Grey bin, 120l - non-recyclable waste - collected fortnightly.

Blue bin, 240l - carboard and paper - collected monthly.

Black bin, 240l - plastic bottles, tins, cans and glass bottles -
collected monthly.

Leading to the green bin, plus one other, being collected every week.

For households with 5 or more residents, a 240l grey bin can be
requested instead of the 120l one. Additional blue and black bins can
also be requested.

What sort of people discard 240 litres of food waste every week ?.

No idea, but SteveW was talking about a 240l grey bin,I.E non recyclable
(landfill)

Grey NOT green

He also mentions a 240l green bin for food waste, but if he'd read it
properly, he'd have seen it was optionally for garden waste as well.

Our green bin is food and garden (by default, they no longer charge
extra for garden waste collection). The only snag is, I could probably
fill it half a dozen times just with grass clippings!

(although its a good height to direct the output of the chipper into -
and it will take a few branches worth)


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On 24/03/2018 16:32, John Rumm wrote:
The only snag is, I could probably
fill it half a dozen times just with grass clippings!

Grass clippings will compact to a least a sixth of the volume by
themselves within a few days in the summer.

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On 24/03/2018 16:50, alan_m wrote:
On 24/03/2018 16:32, John Rumm wrote:
The only snag is, I could probably
fill it half a dozen times just with grass clippings!

Grass clippings will compact to a least a sixth of the volume by
themselves within a few days in the summer.

Indeed, but I can take several cubic metres of them off the lawn in one
cutting when its growing fast... they really ain't going in the bin!
(not to mention it would mean manually handling them up into the bin
after the mower dumps em on the ground)


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On 24/03/2018 12:21, Bob Eager wrote:
On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 12:10:16 +0000, soup wrote:

On 24/03/2018 10:59, Andrew wrote:
On 23/03/2018 13:46, Steve Walker wrote:
On 23/03/2018 10:45, Andy Burns wrote:
Tim Streater wrote:

The recycling bin goes out every two weeks

At the moment we get weekly collections of both wheelie bins (I
choose to put them out less frequently) but I gather the collections
are due to alternate between recycling and rubbish later this year
... might bother larger households.

If it is anything like where we are, they'll have a system to cope
with larger housholds.

Our normal system is:

Green bin, 240l - food waste (plus garden waste if you pay an extra
£40 a year) - collected weekly.

Grey bin, 120l - non-recyclable waste - collected fortnightly.

Blue bin, 240l - carboard and paper - collected monthly.

Black bin, 240l - plastic bottles, tins, cans and glass bottles -
collected monthly.

Leading to the green bin, plus one other, being collected every week.

For households with 5 or more residents, a 240l grey bin can be
requested instead of the 120l one. Additional blue and black bins can
also be requested.

What sort of people discard 240 litres of food waste every week ?.

No idea, but SteveW was talking about a 240l grey bin,I.E non recyclable
(landfill)

Grey NOT green

He also mentions a 240l green bin for food waste, but if he'd read it
properly, he'd have seen it was optionally for garden waste as well.

Mea culpa, didn't read it properly .
Saw the comment about 240l of food waste and the "five or more.." bit
and typed, didn't look properly. Sorry all.

On 24/03/2018 12:21, Bob Eager wrote:
He also mentions a 240l green bin for food waste, but if he'd read it
properly, he'd have seen it was optionally for garden waste as well.

In Horsham if the garden waste is contaminated with any sort of
food waste, it is just scooped back up (at the composting site)
and taken to landfill.

Food waste could contain meat remnants, including pork and
that was what caused the 2001 foot-and-mouth outbreak.

If people were careful enought to separate uncooked veggy
remnants from cooked food waste then it wouldn't be an issue
but people are lazy (and not generally very clued-up).

'Food Waste' means different things to different people.

On 25/03/2018 10:43, Andrew wrote:
On 24/03/2018 12:21, Bob Eager wrote:
He also mentions a 240l green bin for food waste, but if he'd read it
properly, he'd have seen it was optionally for garden waste as well.

In Horsham if the garden waste is contaminated with any sort of
food waste, it is just scooped back up (at the composting site)
and taken to landfill.

Food waste could contain meat remnants, including pork and
that was what caused the 2001 foot-and-mouth outbreak.

If people were careful enought to separate uncooked veggy
remnants from cooked food waste then it wouldn't be an issue
but people are lazy (and not generally very clued-up).

Alternatively they have taken the time to read what things their local
composting bin collections will take...

'Food Waste' means different things to different people.

Indeed, from our district council's web site:

Compostables

The compostables bin is green with a yellow lid and is for food and
garden waste only.

Please put items into the bin:

Loose
Wrapped in a sheet of newspaper or
In a 100% compostable bag

Carrier bags, black sacks and bin liners are not accepted in this bin.

Items you can put in this bin include:

Fruit and vegetable peelings
Raw and cooked food
Meat and fish (including bones)
Plate scrapings and leftovers
Eggshells
Teabags, tea leaves and coffee grounds
Bread
Dairy products
Garden cuttings
Grass
Flowers
Leaves
Branches (less than 30cm in diameter)

Please do NOT put soil/compost/sand, dead animals, pet food, animal
bedding, treated wood or animal/human faeces in this bin.



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On Sunday, 25 March 2018 14:42:32 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
Items you can put in this bin include:
Raw and cooked food
Meat and fish (including bones)
Please do NOT put soil/compost/sand, dead animals,

What's the difference between a dead animal and raw food? Apart from a few minutes with a gutting knife.

Owain

On 25/03/2018 10:43, Andrew wrote:
On 24/03/2018 12:21, Bob Eager wrote:
He also mentions a 240l green bin for food waste, but if he'd read it
properly, he'd have seen it was optionally for garden waste as well.

In Horsham if the garden waste is contaminated with any sort of
food waste, it is just scooped back up (at the composting site)
and taken to landfill.

Food waste could contain meat remnants, including pork and
that was what caused the 2001 foot-and-mouth outbreak.

If people were careful enought to separate uncooked veggy
remnants from cooked food waste then it wouldn't be an issue
but people are lazy (and not generally very clued-up).

'Food Waste' means different things to different people.

Our council sends all food and garden waste for anaerobic digestion -
meat is allowed.

SteveW

On 24/03/2018 12:10, soup wrote:
On 24/03/2018 10:59, Andrew wrote:
On 23/03/2018 13:46, Steve Walker wrote:
On 23/03/2018 10:45, Andy Burns wrote:
Tim Streater wrote:

The recycling bin goes out every two weeks

At the moment we get weekly collections of both wheelie bins (I
choose to put them out less frequently) but I gather the collections
are due to alternate between recycling and rubbish later this year
... might bother larger households.

If it is anything like where we are, they'll have a system to cope
with larger housholds.

Our normal system is:

Green bin, 240l - food waste (plus garden waste if you pay an extra
£40 a year) - collected weekly.

Grey bin, 120l - non-recyclable waste - collected fortnightly.

Blue bin, 240l - carboard and paper - collected monthly.

Black bin, 240l - plastic bottles, tins, cans and glass bottles -
collected monthly.

Leading to the green bin, plus one other, being collected every week.

For households with 5 or more residents, a 240l grey bin can be
requested instead of the 120l one. Additional blue and black bins can
also be requested.

What sort of people discard 240 litres of food waste every week ?.

No idea, but SteveW was talking about a 240l grey bin,I.E
non recyclable (landfill)

Grey NOT green

I'm afraid that means nothing.

In Horsham, Green is normal landfill rubbish
Brown is garden waste
Blue is mixed recycling.

We have no separate collections for food waste or electricals,
the council assume people are going to somehow travel to the
various Viridor sites and deposit their old fm radio or
hair curlers in the correct skip - if only.

On 25/03/2018 16:12, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Andrew
wrote:

We have no separate collections for food waste or electricals,
the council assume people are going to somehow travel to the
various Viridor sites and deposit their old fm radio or
hair curlers in the correct skip - if only.

People have no problem depositing all sorts of stuff at our local tip.
Mostly because all the bins are marked and there are people to ask.


Indeed, but those are the ones who make effort. A lot of people
can't be arsed and just chuck recyclable stuff in the normal
domestic rubbish bin..

Even the skips at the Viridor sites are abused. The one that
should contain soil or rubble is usually contimainated with
ceramic tiles, old bogs, stuff that should be in there.

Ditto the timber skip. All manner of junk that clearly
cannot go through a chipper gets chucked in there.

On Monday, 26 March 2018 12:19:52 UTC+1, Andrew wrote:
On 25/03/2018 16:12, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Andrew
wrote:

We have no separate collections for food waste or electricals,
the council assume people are going to somehow travel to the
various Viridor sites and deposit their old fm radio or
hair curlers in the correct skip - if only.

People have no problem depositing all sorts of stuff at our local tip.
Mostly because all the bins are marked and there are people to ask.


Indeed, but those are the ones who make effort. A lot of people
can't be arsed and just chuck recyclable stuff in the normal
domestic rubbish bin..

Here we use an outside company for our recycling, we have a blue bin for multi-recyling but we were asked to put a notice on in saying only paper and card recycling. But they do collected it every week.

On 26/03/2018 12:19, Andrew wrote:


Even the skips at the Viridor sites are abused. The one that
should contain soil or rubble is usually contimainated with
ceramic tiles, old bogs, stuff that should be in there.

Our local tip staff don't seem to be able to make up their minds about
this. Sometimes they say put ceramics (bogs, tiles etc.) in with the
hard core at other times it is forbidden to do so. They are more clear
about plaster dust - this is forbidden in the hard core, as is any soil.
You will get your wrists slapped if you leave the hardcore in the
plastic bag.


Ditto the timber skip. All manner of junk that clearly
cannot go through a chipper gets chucked in there.


Anything with a bit of wood seems to go in the timber bin. I guess it
will end up as fairly low grade chip board and after being crushed and
"chipped" and metal will be removed by normal means.


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On 26/03/2018 14:10, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Andrew
wrote:

On 25/03/2018 16:12, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Andrew
wrote:

We have no separate collections for food waste or electricals,
the council assume people are going to somehow travel to the
various Viridor sites and deposit their old fm radio or
hair curlers in the correct skip - if only.

People have no problem depositing all sorts of stuff at our local tip.
Mostly because all the bins are marked and there are people to ask.


Indeed, but those are the ones who make effort. A lot of people
can't be arsed and just chuck recyclable stuff in the normal
domestic rubbish bin.

Not sure what can be done with people like that.

Even the skips at the Viridor sites are abused. The one that
should contain soil or rubble is usually contimainated with
ceramic tiles, old bogs, stuff that should be in there.

Ditto the timber skip. All manner of junk that clearly
cannot go through a chipper gets chucked in there.

Insufficient staff, then. At ours you don't put the wood in the skip.
You dump it in a pile and they put it in the skip.

They have at least 2, sometimes 3 blokes who are supposed to
assist owners, where necessary and ought to be able to stop
the wrong stuff being put into inappropriate bins.

I suspect they are afraid to step in, in case of abuse and the
risk of it being flytipped.

Once I went there and the manager was a young german guy, and the
place was *spotless*. Everything was done properly. Next time I
went he had gone and it was back to its usual state.

On 24/03/2018 10:59, Andrew wrote:
On 23/03/2018 13:46, Steve Walker wrote:
On 23/03/2018 10:45, Andy Burns wrote:
Tim Streater wrote:

The recycling bin goes out every two weeks

At the moment we get weekly collections of both wheelie bins (I
choose to put them out less frequently) but I gather the collections
are due to alternate between recycling and rubbish later this year
... might bother larger households.

If it is anything like where we are, they'll have a system to cope
with larger housholds.

Our normal system is:

Green bin, 240l - food waste (plus garden waste if you pay an extra
£40 a year) - collected weekly.

Grey bin, 120l - non-recyclable waste - collected fortnightly.

Blue bin, 240l - carboard and paper - collected monthly.

Black bin, 240l - plastic bottles, tins, cans and glass bottles -
collected monthly.

Leading to the green bin, plus one other, being collected every week.

For households with 5 or more residents, a 240l grey bin can be
requested instead of the 120l one. Additional blue and black bins can
also be requested.

SteveW

What sort of people discard 240 litres of food waste every week ?.

None. However the green bin is sized to allow for garden waste (if you
pay the extra fee). Even if you put very little in, it is worth putting
it out most weeks so as to avoid the smell of rotting food.

SteveW

On 23/03/18 13:46, Steve Walker wrote:
On 23/03/2018 10:45, Andy Burns wrote:
Tim Streater wrote:

The recycling bin goes out every two weeks

At the moment we get weekly collections of both wheelie bins (I choose
to put them out less frequently) but I gather the collections are due
to alternate between recycling and rubbish later this year ... might
bother larger households.

If it is anything like where we are, they'll have a system to cope with
larger housholds.

Our normal system is:

Green bin, 240l - food waste (plus garden waste if you pay an extra £40
a year) - collected weekly.

Grey bin, 120l - non-recyclable waste - collected fortnightly.

Blue bin, 240l - carboard and paper - collected monthly.

Black bin, 240l - plastic bottles, tins, cans and glass bottles -
collected monthly.

Leading to the green bin, plus one other, being collected every week.

For households with 5 or more residents, a 240l grey bin can be
requested instead of the 120l one. Additional blue and black bins can
also be requested.

That makes our black bag for general waste and clear recycle bag seem
overly complicated.

On 24/03/2018 11:05, Richard wrote:

That makes our black bag for general waste and clear recycle bag seem
overly complicated.

See....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zkj7gZmuuhU


Around my way
Black bag for general waste (landfill) - buy your own bags

Pink bag for mixed recycled waste - bags supplied by council

Small container for food waste - container and small biodegradable
lining bags supplied by council

Large container for paper - council supplied
Broken down card also collected.

White bags for recycled clothing which are often never collected so the
next week they get stuffed into the black bags. I see very few white
bags being put out these days.


A generalised observation:
Around 1 in 20 put out a food waste container. If the wind is blowing
many of these emptied containers will end up elsewhere!
Many people seem to leave their paper waste until the containers are
full so perhaps 1 in 6 have these containers are put out for any one
collection.

Garden waste is an optional, additional, paid for service at around £50
a year and buy your own wheelie bin from the contractor (£30) or
alternatively put your garden waste into a pre-paid branded bag at
around 65p a time.

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On 24/03/2018 12:56, alan_m wrote:
On 24/03/2018 11:05, Richard wrote:

That makes our black bag for general waste and clear recycle bag seem
overly complicated.

See....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zkj7gZmuuhU


Around my way
Black bag for general waste (landfill) - buy your own bags

Pink bag for mixed recycled waste - bags supplied by council

Small container for food waste - container and small biodegradable
lining bags supplied by council

Large container for paper - council supplied
Broken down card also collected.

White bags for recycled clothing which are often never collected so the
next week they get stuffed into the black bags. I see very few white
bags being put out these days.


A generalised observation:
Around 1 in 20 put out a food waste container. If the wind is blowing
many of these emptied containers will end up elsewhere!
Many people seem to leave their paper waste until the containers are
full so perhaps 1 in 6 have these containers are put out for any one
collection.

Garden waste is an optional, additional, paid for service at around £50
a year and buy your own wheelie bin from the contractor (£30) or
alternatively put your garden waste into a pre-paid branded bag at
around 65p a time.


I'm amazed that the efficient Germans haven't persuaded the EU to
'harmonize' bin colours. It might be good idea.

"Andrew" wrote in message
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I'm amazed that the efficient Germans haven't persuaded the EU to
'harmonize' bin colours. It might be good idea.

I agree. It would be a very good idea if there were standard colours for
specific types of waste, and standard items that can be collected at the
roadside and/or recycling centres.

Moving from one area to another means learning a new council's rules - in
some areas, normal waste is a black bin, in others it is green. In some
areas they will take tin cans and paper (as opposed to cardboard), in other
areas they won't.

Some councils charge extra for garden waste at the roadside, and rubble /
broken plant-pots etc at the recycling centre.

I'd like to see a national standard for bin colours and what is collected,
with no additional per-load charge for items that are taken to the tip (ie
all covered by council tax),

I'd also like to see weekly collections of normal waste. Many times I've had
to make a special journey to the recycling centre to take packaging etc
which will not fit in the normal-waste bin, or even to take additional
cardboard boxes. tin cans, glass etc which will not fit in the very small
crate and even smaller bag for cardboard. Having to dismantle and rip up and
fold carboard boxes to make the fit in the bag is not acceptable: the bin
should be large enough to take these without putting the householder to the
hassle of making it fit.

It is fine to encourage people to recycle more, but all households generate
a certain amount of waste on average, and it all needs to be removed -
whether in the normal bin or the recycling bin. There seems to be a school
of thought that we should magically produce less waste, even of the
recyclable type.

On 25/03/2018 11:10, NY wrote:

snip

It is fine to encourage people to recycle more, but all households
generate a certain amount of waste on average, and it all needs to be
removed - whether in the normal bin or the recycling bin. There seems to
be a school of thought that we should magically produce less waste, even
of the recyclable type.

If it modifies your behaviour to reduce waste and recyclable matter, it
all sounds a good thing.

Otherwise pay the price of inconvenience.

"Fredxx" wrote in message
news
On 25/03/2018 11:10, NY wrote:

snip

It is fine to encourage people to recycle more, but all households
generate a certain amount of waste on average, and it all needs to be
removed - whether in the normal bin or the recycling bin. There seems to
be a school of thought that we should magically produce less waste, even
of the recyclable type.

If it modifies your behaviour to reduce waste and recyclable matter, it
all sounds a good thing.

I'm all for encouraging people to recycle rather than landfill, by carrot
rather than stick by making it easy to recycle rather than difficult/costly
to landfill. But expecting people to reduce the *total* amount of waste is
ludicrous. If something comes boxed, you have to get rid of the box - and
you don't have the option of saying "supply this item in clean, pristine,
undamaged condition but with less packaging" - the packaging is the means of
making sure the item is clean/undamaged.

On 25/03/2018 11:10, NY wrote:
"Andrew" wrote in message
news
I'm amazed that the efficient Germans haven't persuaded the EU to
'harmonize' bin colours. It might be good idea.

I agree. It would be a very good idea if there were standard colours for
specific types of waste, and standard items that can be collected at the
roadside and/or recycling centres.


I'd like to see a national standard for bin colours and what is
collected, with no additional per-load charge for items that are taken
to the tip (ie all covered by council tax),

The difficulty there is that the various recycling facilities around the
country do not all have the same capabilities. So you would be in danger
of reducing the range of things that can be collected everywhere to a
small common subset of recyclable items.


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In article ,
says...


White bags for recycled clothing which are often never collected so the
next week they get stuffed into the black bags. I see very few white
bags being put out these days.


No need for the council to bother in many areas as there are
plenty of 'charity' clothing collections.

It's getting ridiculous round here - we had no fewer than FIVE
white bags through our letter box last week!

I think everybody's wardrobes must be empty of all non-
essential clothing by now, though, because I've yet to see one
of these bags outside anyone's front door awaiting collection!

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For households with 5 or more residents, a 240l grey bin can be
requested instead of the 120l one. Additional blue and black bins can
also be requested.

That makes our black bag for general waste and clear recycle bag seem
overly complicated.

New Forest by any chance? If not they follow the same system.
It seems a strange choice for an area that has lot of wildlife and though
parish councils and others
request that bags are not put out the night before that is awkward for
people who are busy leaving for work around dawn. You can tell it has been
collection day by the trail of detritus along the route that has escaped
from damaged bags.

OTOH it is a simple system and I like that both bags get collected on the
same morning , they use two carts running together with a the crew from
one walking ahead and accumulating individual households bags into larger
piles which reduces the number of vehicle stops.
My mothers council collects different types weekly on two consecutive days
with a third stream fortnightly on a third consecutive day. Every flaming
day it seems you have to put something out and for a good part of the week
empty boxes are parading up and down the place in the wind till the
householders get home, Mother has a high proportion of neighbours who teach
at a nearby private school. Ignorant sods who may be good at Maths or
Sports but lack the common sense that if you leave your recycling box
outside the front door all week
and start filling it there then the wind is going to chuck the rubbish all
over the street and your box is going to follow it. Ive given up asking
them not to do it but they are teachers and consider themselves above such
things. now on my visits if their box is wedged under my car or in mothers
gateway I remove it to here 3 Counties away. The missus grows plants in
them to replant elsewhere.

NFDC collections are weekly at the moment, apparently a year or two ago
some funding became available for some authorities to reinstate more
frequent collections, NFDC was still weekly so was allowed to use the funds
to give households glass* collection boxes which are collected monthly.
Its taken a couple of years for many including me to get into the habit of
putting it out but most seem to do so now.

GH

On 26/03/18 11:04, Marland wrote:


For households with 5 or more residents, a 240l grey bin can be
requested instead of the 120l one. Additional blue and black bins can
also be requested.

That makes our black bag for general waste and clear recycle bag seem
overly complicated.

New Forest by any chance?

Yep.

On 24/03/18 11:57, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Richard
wrote:

On 23/03/18 13:46, Steve Walker wrote:
On 23/03/2018 10:45, Andy Burns wrote:
Tim Streater wrote:

The recycling bin goes out every two weeks

At the moment we get weekly collections of both wheelie bins (I
choose to put them out less frequently) but I gather the collections
are due to alternate between recycling and rubbish later this year
... might bother larger households.

If it is anything like where we are, they'll have a system to cope
with larger housholds.

Our normal system is:

Green bin, 240l - food waste (plus garden waste if you pay an extra
£40 a year) - collected weekly.

Grey bin, 120l - non-recyclable waste - collected fortnightly.

Blue bin, 240l - carboard and paper - collected monthly.

Black bin, 240l - plastic bottles, tins, cans and glass bottles -
collected monthly.

Leading to the green bin, plus one other, being collected every week.

For households with 5 or more residents, a 240l grey bin can be
requested instead of the 120l one. Additional blue and black bins can
also be requested.

That makes our black bag for general waste and clear recycle bag seem
overly complicated.

I'm glad we have bins and no longer bags. That was a major improvement
(foxes have already been mentioned).

Put the bags out in the morning. Only takes one week for any newcomer to
realise that after their garbage has been dragged out of the bag for all
to see.

On 24/03/2018 13:10, Richard wrote:

Put the bags out in the morning. Only takes one week for any newcomer to
realise that after their garbage has been dragged out of the bag for all
to see.

Unfortunately you also get the a******e who will put food in the general
rubbish bag and then put it out 5 days before collection!


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On 24/03/2018 13:10, Richard wrote:

Put the bags out in the morning. Only takes one week for any newcomer to
realise that after their garbage has been dragged out of the bag for all
to see.


No way am I getting up before 7:00 to put the bins out for them to
collect at 7:05.
Just as well they have hybrid collection trucks and they are running on
electric at that time, they might wake me up if they are running engines.

On 24/03/18 14:23, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Richard
wrote:

On 24/03/18 11:57, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Richard
wrote:

On 23/03/18 13:46, Steve Walker wrote:
On 23/03/2018 10:45, Andy Burns wrote:
Tim Streater wrote:

The recycling bin goes out every two weeks

At the moment we get weekly collections of both wheelie bins (I
choose to put them out less frequently) but I gather the
collections are due to alternate between recycling and rubbish
later this year ... might bother larger households.

If it is anything like where we are, they'll have a system to cope
with larger housholds.

Our normal system is:

Green bin, 240l - food waste (plus garden waste if you pay an extra
£40 a year) - collected weekly.

Grey bin, 120l - non-recyclable waste - collected fortnightly.

Blue bin, 240l - carboard and paper - collected monthly.

Black bin, 240l - plastic bottles, tins, cans and glass bottles -
collected monthly.

Leading to the green bin, plus one other, being collected every week.

For households with 5 or more residents, a 240l grey bin can be
requested instead of the 120l one. Additional blue and black bins
can also be requested.

That makes our black bag for general waste and clear recycle bag
seem overly complicated.

I'm glad we have bins and no longer bags. That was a major improvement
(foxes have already been mentioned).

Put the bags out in the morning.

**** that.

OK. Get the missus to do it then.

On 24/03/18 14:30, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Richard
wrote:

On 24/03/18 14:23, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Richard
wrote:

Put the bags out in the morning.

**** that.

OK. Get the missus to do it then.

Unlikely. The pussy-cat, however, is up and about at that time of day.

Ah. So the collection is somewhat earlier than mine. No problem dumping
my bags on the pavement when setting off for work.

On 24/03/2018 14:23, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Richard
wrote:

On 24/03/18 11:57, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Richard
wrote:

On 23/03/18 13:46, Steve Walker wrote:
On 23/03/2018 10:45, Andy Burns wrote:
Tim Streater wrote:

The recycling bin goes out every two weeks

At the moment we get weekly collections of both wheelie bins (I
choose to put them out less frequently) but I gather the
collections are due to alternate between recycling and rubbish
later this year ... might bother larger households.

If it is anything like where we are, they'll have a system to cope
with larger housholds.

Our normal system is:

Green bin, 240l - food waste (plus garden waste if you pay an extra
£40 a year) - collected weekly.

Grey bin, 120l - non-recyclable waste - collected fortnightly.

Blue bin, 240l - carboard and paper - collected monthly.

Black bin, 240l - plastic bottles, tins, cans and glass bottles -
collected monthly.

Leading to the green bin, plus one other, being collected every week.

For households with 5 or more residents, a 240l grey bin can be
requested instead of the 120l one. Additional blue and black bins
can also be requested.

That makes our black bag for general waste and clear recycle bag
seem overly complicated.

I'm glad we have bins and no longer bags. That was a major improvement
(foxes have already been mentioned).

Put the bags out in the morning.

**** that.

In Cardiff, the bin police will fine you :-).

Steve Walker posted
On 23/03/2018 10:45, Andy Burns wrote:
Tim Streater wrote:

The recycling bin goes out every two weeks
At the moment we get weekly collections of both wheelie bins (I
choose to put them out less frequently) but I gather the collections
are due to alternate between recycling and rubbish later this year
... might bother larger households.

If it is anything like where we are, they'll have a system to cope with
larger housholds.

Our normal system is:
....
Black bin, 240l - plastic bottles, tins, cans and glass bottles -
collected monthly.

Cans and bottles collected *monthly*?

Glad they don't do that here. By the time they took the empties away
you'd need a JCB to get in our front door.

--
Jack

On 29/03/18 17:21, Handsome Jack wrote:
Steve Walker posted
On 23/03/2018 10:45, Andy Burns wrote:
Tim Streater wrote:

The recycling bin goes out every two weeks
Â*At the moment we get weekly collections of both wheelie bins (I
chooseÂ* to put them out less frequently) but I gather the collections
are due toÂ* alternate between recycling and rubbish later this year
... might botherÂ* larger households.

If it is anything like where we are, they'll have a system to cope
with larger housholds.

Our normal system is:
...
Black bin, 240l - plastic bottles, tins, cans and glass bottles -
collected monthly.

Cans and bottles collected *monthly*?

Glad they don't do that here. By the time they took the empties away
you'd need a JCB to get in our front door.

Well here I effectively get plastic and cans collected at best monthly.
Cos I can't be arsed to weaste tax money on collecting a quarter full bin.


Bottles go to the bottle bank

The nearest one is just 'mixed glass' but if I drive 4 miles I can have
a choic of white and colored brown or green...

There is nowhere for the blue bombay gin bottles to go so I just throw
those in the garden of a local Green :-)

Well I would if there were any

Its all complet bollox as everybidy knwos, except millenial snowflajes
- its just virtyue signalling 'eco ' legislation.

I reality the most effective way to recycle is to picvk off amnything
oif enugh value to justifdyu te picking or odf enough posoi9on to
justify it, and then incinerate the lot at very high temperaites in a
flues scrubbed power staion, hopefully sited somwehere where the hot
water can be used to do somethjingg more useful than make fish cosy.

Then use the ash as fertiliser, or bury it.




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