Any tips on how best to deal with this:

https://flic.kr/p/Ga8Xrb

(dishwasher wire rack plastic coating perished, rusting)

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Cheers, Rob

On 12/02/2018 20:56, RJH wrote:
Any tips on how best to deal with this:

https://flic.kr/p/Ga8Xrb

(dishwasher wire rack plastic coating perished, rusting)


Assuming you don't want to replace it...

Clean off loose rust & plastic.

Treat with 'Kurust'.

Coat in Epoxy- JB Weld is grey and is better at temperature- checking
you get a good overlap and coverage.

On Monday, 12 February 2018 21:06:01 UTC, Brian Reay wrote:
On 12/02/2018 20:56, RJH wrote:
Any tips on how best to deal with this:

https://flic.kr/p/Ga8Xrb

(dishwasher wire rack plastic coating perished, rusting)


Assuming you don't want to replace it...

Clean off loose rust & plastic.

Treat with 'Kurust'.

Coat in Epoxy- JB Weld is grey and is better at temperature- checking
you get a good overlap and coverage.

have you ever tried doing that? I don't think you'd succeed


NT

RJH wrote:

Any tips on how best to deal with this:
(dishwasher wire rack plastic coating perished, rusting)

plastidip?

On Mon, 12 Feb 2018 22:23:47 +0000
Andy Burns wrote:

RJH wrote:

Any tips on how best to deal with this:
(dishwasher wire rack plastic coating perished, rusting)

plastidip?


That was my response too, but I wonder how far the corrosion has
reached under the coating. It might be worth stripping it all, shot
blasting and powder coating, rather than patching it up and have the
patches fail.

On 12/02/18 20:56, RJH wrote:
Any tips on how best to deal with this:

https://flic.kr/p/Ga8Xrb

(dishwasher wire rack plastic coating perished, rusting)


https://www.espares.co.uk/product/es...artTypeId=1740


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On 13/02/2018 04:12, Rob Morley wrote:
On Mon, 12 Feb 2018 22:23:47 +0000
Andy Burns wrote:

RJH wrote:

Any tips on how best to deal with this:
(dishwasher wire rack plastic coating perished, rusting)

plastidip?


Thanks - that looks the type of thing.


That was my response too, but I wonder how far the corrosion has
reached under the coating. It might be worth stripping it all, shot
blasting and powder coating, rather than patching it up and have the
patches fail.


I was thinking in terms of cutting it back to good metal, then coating
the exposed metal with maybe a primer followed by plastidip suggestion:

https://www.plastidip.co.uk/shop/plastidip/plasti-dip

Goes to 93C, so should be OK.

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Cheers, Rob

On 13/02/2018 07:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 12/02/18 20:56, RJH wrote:
Any tips on how best to deal with this:

https://flic.kr/p/Ga8Xrb

(dishwasher wire rack plastic coating perished, rusting)


https://www.espares.co.uk/product/es...artTypeId=1740


Ah thanks, yes. £24 though. I'll have a go at mending first.

The fact they rust in the first place is a bit rubbish. It (Siemens mid
range) is only about 5 years old and not had heavy use.

--
Cheers, Rob

On 13/02/18 08:03, RJH wrote:
On 13/02/2018 07:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 12/02/18 20:56, RJH wrote:
Any tips on how best to deal with this:

https://flic.kr/p/Ga8Xrb

(dishwasher wire rack plastic coating perished, rusting)


https://www.espares.co.uk/product/es...artTypeId=1740


Ah thanks, yes. £24 though. I'll have a go at mending first.

The fact they rust in the first place is a bit rubbish. It (Siemens mid
range) is only about 5 years old and not had heavy use.

Dishwashers today have a service life of 3 years before they break and 5
years before they are BER.

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On 2/12/2018 8:56 PM, RJH wrote:
Any tips on how best to deal with this:

https://flic.kr/p/Ga8Xrb

(dishwasher wire rack plastic coating perished, rusting)

you are lucky the dishwasher lasted that long...

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On 12/02/2018 22:19, wrote:
On Monday, 12 February 2018 21:06:01 UTC, Brian Reay wrote:
On 12/02/2018 20:56, RJH wrote:
Any tips on how best to deal with this:

https://flic.kr/p/Ga8Xrb

(dishwasher wire rack plastic coating perished, rusting)


Assuming you don't want to replace it...

Clean off loose rust & plastic.

Treat with 'Kurust'.

Coat in Epoxy- JB Weld is grey and is better at temperature- checking
you get a good overlap and coverage.

have you ever tried doing that? I don't think you'd succeed

Araldite applied in 2008 over rusting around a weld in our rack was
still solid last night.

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On 12/02/2018 22:19, wrote:
On Monday, 12 February 2018 21:06:01 UTC, Brian Reay wrote:
On 12/02/2018 20:56, RJH wrote:
Any tips on how best to deal with this:

https://flic.kr/p/Ga8Xrb

(dishwasher wire rack plastic coating perished, rusting)


Assuming you don't want to replace it...

Clean off loose rust & plastic.

Treat with 'Kurust'.

Coat in Epoxy- JB Weld is grey and is better at temperature- checking
you get a good overlap and coverage.

have you ever tried doing that? I don't think you'd succeed

Araldite applied in 2008 over rusting around a weld in our rack was still
solid last night.


Grit blast all the plastic until the entire thing is bare rust free metal
and have it re-dipped. But to be perfectly honest you'd do better to grit
your teeth and buy a replacement.

Andrew

Rob Morley Wrote in message:
On Mon, 12 Feb 2018 22:23:47 +0000
Andy Burns wrote:

RJH wrote:

Any tips on how best to deal with this:
(dishwasher wire rack plastic coating perished, rusting)

plastidip?


That was my response too, but I wonder how far the corrosion has
reached under the coating. It might be worth stripping it all, shot
blasting and powder coating, rather than patching it up and have the
patches fail.



I think I'd buy another rather than fork out for all that malarkey.
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On Tuesday, 13 February 2018 08:20:19 UTC, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 13/02/18 08:03, RJH wrote:
On 13/02/2018 07:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 12/02/18 20:56, RJH wrote:
Any tips on how best to deal with this:

https://flic.kr/p/Ga8Xrb

(dishwasher wire rack plastic coating perished, rusting)


https://www.espares.co.uk/product/es...artTypeId=1740


Ah thanks, yes. £24 though. I'll have a go at mending first.

The fact they rust in the first place is a bit rubbish. It (Siemens mid
range) is only about 5 years old and not had heavy use.

Dishwashers today have a service life of 3 years before they break and 5
years before they are BER.

Welcome to the Brave nEU world

Previous one lasted from 86 to 17, 31 years.


NT

Is poor loading causing things to cut into the plastic coating in the first
place?

On Tuesday, 13 February 2018 12:21:06 UTC, DerbyBorn wrote:
Is poor loading causing things to cut into the plastic coating in the first
place?

they tend to go on the outside of elbow shaped bends. Nothing hits them, the plastic just cracks up over time, and there it's least supported & most likely to peel. Better plastic needed, or maybe zinc dip coating.


NT

On 13/02/18 10:24, wrote:
On Tuesday, 13 February 2018 08:20:19 UTC, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 13/02/18 08:03, RJH wrote:
On 13/02/2018 07:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 12/02/18 20:56, RJH wrote:
Any tips on how best to deal with this:

https://flic.kr/p/Ga8Xrb

(dishwasher wire rack plastic coating perished, rusting)


https://www.espares.co.uk/product/es...artTypeId=1740


Ah thanks, yes. £24 though. I'll have a go at mending first.

The fact they rust in the first place is a bit rubbish. It (Siemens mid
range) is only about 5 years old and not had heavy use.

Dishwashers today have a service life of 3 years before they break and 5
years before they are BER.

Welcome to the Brave nEU world

Previous one lasted from 86 to 17, 31 years.


You see. That was presumably made 36 years ago, before we joined the
'common market'



NT



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the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the
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On 13/02/18 13:56, Martin wrote:
On Tue, 13 Feb 2018 05:43:57 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Tuesday, 13 February 2018 12:21:06 UTC, DerbyBorn wrote:
Is poor loading causing things to cut into the plastic coating in the first
place?

they tend to go on the outside of elbow shaped bends. Nothing hits them, the plastic just cracks up over time, and there it's least supported & most likely to peel. Better plastic needed, or maybe zinc dip coating.

Better make? No sign of this or any other problems on our 20 year old Miele dish
washer.

Todays miele dishwahsers are not a patch on old ones.


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eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such
time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic
and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally
important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for
the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the
truth is the greatest enemy of the State.

Joseph Goebbels

On Tuesday, 13 February 2018 14:52:55 UTC, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 13/02/18 10:24, tabbypurr wrote:
On Tuesday, 13 February 2018 08:20:19 UTC, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 13/02/18 08:03, RJH wrote:
On 13/02/2018 07:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 12/02/18 20:56, RJH wrote:
Any tips on how best to deal with this:

https://flic.kr/p/Ga8Xrb

(dishwasher wire rack plastic coating perished, rusting)


https://www.espares.co.uk/product/es...artTypeId=1740


Ah thanks, yes. £24 though. I'll have a go at mending first.

The fact they rust in the first place is a bit rubbish. It (Siemens mid
range) is only about 5 years old and not had heavy use.

Dishwashers today have a service life of 3 years before they break and 5
years before they are BER.

Welcome to the Brave nEU world

Previous one lasted from 86 to 17, 31 years.


You see. That was presumably made 36 years ago, before we joined the
'common market'

Reliability is one of the things I like about some old appliances. 1930s ones are better made, probably only because the less successful 30s ones are long gone. A lot of 30s stuff suffers too much in the way of design issues but some's still good for today's world.


NT

On Mon, 12 Feb 2018 20:56:45 +0000, RJH wrote:

Any tips on how best to deal with this:

https://flic.kr/p/Ga8Xrb

(dishwasher wire rack plastic coating perished, rusting)

Scrapyard, you might even get a fiver for it

Buy a washing up bowl at a poundshop

Then buy a new cabinet for the kitchen and fill it with all the extra crockery
and cutlery you needed because you had a dishwasher

--

On Tue, 13 Feb 2018 12:21:03 GMT
DerbyBorn wrote:

Is poor loading causing things to cut into the plastic coating in the
first place?

Or the plastic goes hard then thermal expansion in the steel causes
cracks in the end.

On 12/02/2018 22:19, wrote:
On Monday, 12 February 2018 21:06:01 UTC, Brian Reay wrote:
On 12/02/2018 20:56, RJH wrote:
Any tips on how best to deal with this:

https://flic.kr/p/Ga8Xrb

(dishwasher wire rack plastic coating perished, rusting)


Assuming you don't want to replace it...

Clean off loose rust & plastic.

Treat with 'Kurust'.

Coat in Epoxy- JB Weld is grey and is better at temperature- checking
you get a good overlap and coverage.

have you ever tried doing that? I don't think you'd succeed


NT

No, I've not had seen the problem.

On Tuesday, 13 February 2018 19:02:06 UTC, Brian Reay wrote:
On 12/02/2018 22:19, tabbypurr wrote:
On Monday, 12 February 2018 21:06:01 UTC, Brian Reay wrote:
On 12/02/2018 20:56, RJH wrote:
Any tips on how best to deal with this:

https://flic.kr/p/Ga8Xrb

(dishwasher wire rack plastic coating perished, rusting)


Assuming you don't want to replace it...

Clean off loose rust & plastic.

Treat with 'Kurust'.

Coat in Epoxy- JB Weld is grey and is better at temperature- checking
you get a good overlap and coverage.

have you ever tried doing that? I don't think you'd succeed


NT

No, I've not had seen the problem.

The rust points go very deep, with the metal all splaying out. I think one would need to heat the whole thing to above boiling to get all remaining water out of the many rusted areas, then somehow hope to seal the epoxy onto failing plastic coating as well as the piles of rust. It might be doable, but certainly not as simple as glooping some epoxy on.

I expect pickling & hot dip galv would work, don't know what it would cost.


NT

On 12/02/2018 20:56, RJH wrote:
Any tips on how best to deal with this:

https://flic.kr/p/Ga8Xrb

(dishwasher wire rack plastic coating perished, rusting)


As a quick and dirty fix where there is a "free" end, I would be
inclined to remove all the loose coating and the worst of the rust, and
fit a length of "sticky heat shrink" over the wire, extending slightly
beyond the end of the metal. With any luck, the glue will seal the end.

On Wednesday, 14 February 2018 11:22:06 UTC, newshound wrote:
On 12/02/2018 20:56, RJH wrote:
Any tips on how best to deal with this:

https://flic.kr/p/Ga8Xrb

(dishwasher wire rack plastic coating perished, rusting)


As a quick and dirty fix where there is a "free" end, I would be
inclined to remove all the loose coating and the worst of the rust, and
fit a length of "sticky heat shrink" over the wire, extending slightly
beyond the end of the metal. With any luck, the glue will seal the end.

or angle grind the rusted end off & apply epoxy. Rust at joints is a much bigger problem than ends though.


NT

On 13/02/2018 07:59, RJH wrote:
On 13/02/2018 04:12, Rob Morley wrote:
On Mon, 12 Feb 2018 22:23:47 +0000
Andy Burns wrote:

RJH wrote:

Any tips on how best to deal with this:
(dishwasher wire rack plastic coating perished, rusting)

plastidip?


Thanks - that looks the type of thing.


That was my response too, but I wonder how far the corrosion has
reached under the coating.Â* It might be worth stripping it all, shot
blasting and powder coating, rather than patching it up and have the
patches fail.


I was thinking in terms of cutting it back to good metal, then coating
the exposed metal with maybe a primer followed by plastidip suggestion:

https://www.plastidip.co.uk/shop/plastidip/plasti-dip

Goes to 93C, so should be OK.

Not in a dishwasher. You would need something that can take 100+C.

On 14/02/2018 21:35, Fredxx wrote:
Not in a dishwasher. You would need something that can take 100+C.

Our dishwasher doesn't go over 60.

Andy

On 15/02/2018 20:40, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 14/02/2018 21:35, Fredxx wrote:
Not in a dishwasher. You would need something that can take 100+C.

Our dishwasher doesn't go over 60.

The drying phase takes mine much, much higher.

Do your contents come out wet?

Fredxx wrote:
On 15/02/2018 20:40, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 14/02/2018 21:35, Fredxx wrote:
Not in a dishwasher. You would need something that can take 100+C.

Our dishwasher doesn't go over 60.

The drying phase takes mine much, much higher.

Im sure youre right, but not every dishwasher uses such high
temperatures. Our Fisher Paykel twin drawer dishwasher uses relatively low
temperature fan driven warm air to do the drying. You can open it at any
time and its never really hot like our previous dishwashers were.

Tim




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I once got a frame like that coated in something for a friend, not having a
dishwasher myself, from a plating company we used ourselves. I'm just trying
to recall what was done. I believe it was blasted to remove all paint, then
etched to remove rust, then anodised... or a similar process for the
material it was made of, though it might have been dipped in some coating I
do not recall now. Whatever it was it outlasted his dishwasher, and so my
thoughts on these racks, though most these days are crappy plastic, is that
the standard of coating put on when new is rubbish.
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On 14/02/2018 21:35, Fredxx wrote:
Not in a dishwasher. You would need something that can take 100+C.

Our dishwasher doesn't go over 60.

Andy