Have you installed a Korean electric bidet toilet seat in the UK?
What manufacturer? Was it well made? Did it fit a European WC pan? Were
the plumbing fitting threads compatible?
It would be outside zone 2. I intend to use a switched fused flex outlet
fed by an RCD protected circuit.
I understand that it's notifiable, I have a pet part P competent person.

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Huge wrote:

On 2018-02-03, Mike wrote:

Have you installed a Korean electric bidet toilet seat in the UK?

No, but having recently returned from a holiday in Japan, I'm planning
to install a Japanese one.

What manufacturer?

Much as I'd like to install a Toto Washlet, they're simply too much
money.

I've been talking to these people;

https://www.washloo.co.uk/products/washloo-classic

Was it well made? Did it fit a European WC pan? Were
the plumbing fitting threads compatible?

The Washloo stuff is all designed for the UK. The toilet pans in Japan (well
the "Western Style" ones, anyway) all looked the same as the UK.

It would be outside zone 2. I intend to use a switched fused flex outlet
fed by an RCD protected circuit.
I understand that it's notifiable, I have a pet part P competent person.

I'm afraid I am utterly indifferent to this.

The first problem I have encountered is that the Washloo requires a mains
pressure water supply, and I don't have one in the bathroom.

As a matter of interest, do you intend to comply with the bit of
building regulations that requires you to have a physical air gap in the
water supply? Do they have an approved device for this?


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Huge wrote:

On 2018-02-03, Mike wrote:

Have you installed a Korean electric bidet toilet seat in the UK?

No, but having recently returned from a holiday in Japan, I'm planning
to install a Japanese one.

What manufacturer?

Much as I'd like to install a Toto Washlet, they're simply too much
money.

I've been talking to these people;

https://www.washloo.co.uk/products/washloo-classic

Was it well made? Did it fit a European WC pan? Were
the plumbing fitting threads compatible?

The Washloo stuff is all designed for the UK. The toilet pans in Japan (well
the "Western Style" ones, anyway) all looked the same as the UK.

It would be outside zone 2. I intend to use a switched fused flex outlet
fed by an RCD protected circuit.
I understand that it's notifiable, I have a pet part P competent person.

I'm afraid I am utterly indifferent to this.

The first problem I have encountered is that the Washloo requires a mains
pressure water supply, and I don't have one in the bathroom.

As a matter of interest, do you intend to comply with the bit of
building regulations that requires you to have a physical air gap in the
water supply? Do they have an approved device for this?



A double check valve?
£5 should cover that...
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On 04/02/2018 10:52, jim wrote:

A double check valve?
£5 should cover that...

He did say "physical air gap".

The regs on bidets etc are now draconian: I knew someone with a
chalet-style house who concluded he'd need planning permission for his
own water tower to get useable pressure.



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jim k Wrote in message:
(Roger Hayter) Wrote in message:
Huge wrote:

On 2018-02-03, Mike wrote:

Have you installed a Korean electric bidet toilet seat in the UK?

No, but having recently returned from a holiday in Japan, I'm planning
to install a Japanese one.

What manufacturer?

Much as I'd like to install a Toto Washlet, they're simply too much
money.

I've been talking to these people;

https://www.washloo.co.uk/products/washloo-classic

Was it well made? Did it fit a European WC pan? Were
the plumbing fitting threads compatible?

The Washloo stuff is all designed for the UK. The toilet pans in Japan (well
the "Western Style" ones, anyway) all looked the same as the UK.

It would be outside zone 2. I intend to use a switched fused flex outlet
fed by an RCD protected circuit.
I understand that it's notifiable, I have a pet part P competent person.

I'm afraid I am utterly indifferent to this.

The first problem I have encountered is that the Washloo requires a mains
pressure water supply, and I don't have one in the bathroom.

As a matter of interest, do you intend to comply with the bit of
building regulations that requires you to have a physical air gap in the
water supply? Do they have an approved device for this?



A double check valve?
£5 should cover that...

Or possibly not enough for strict application of rules...

https://www.flowstarvalveshop.com/pa...ention-devices

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On 04/02/2018 10:52, jim wrote:
(Roger Hayter) Wrote in message:
Huge wrote:

On 2018-02-03, Mike wrote:

Have you installed a Korean electric bidet toilet seat in the UK?

No, but having recently returned from a holiday in Japan, I'm planning
to install a Japanese one.

What manufacturer?

Much as I'd like to install a Toto Washlet, they're simply too much
money.

I've been talking to these people;

https://www.washloo.co.uk/products/washloo-classic

Was it well made? Did it fit a European WC pan? Were
the plumbing fitting threads compatible?

The Washloo stuff is all designed for the UK. The toilet pans in Japan (well
the "Western Style" ones, anyway) all looked the same as the UK.

It would be outside zone 2. I intend to use a switched fused flex outlet
fed by an RCD protected circuit.
I understand that it's notifiable, I have a pet part P competent person.

I'm afraid I am utterly indifferent to this.

The first problem I have encountered is that the Washloo requires a mains
pressure water supply, and I don't have one in the bathroom.

As a matter of interest, do you intend to comply with the bit of
building regulations that requires you to have a physical air gap in the
water supply? Do they have an approved device for this?



A double check valve?
£5 should cover that...


Bidet my arse.

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jim k wrote:

(Roger Hayter) Wrote in message:
Huge wrote:

On 2018-02-03, Mike wrote:

Have you installed a Korean electric bidet toilet seat in the UK?

No, but having recently returned from a holiday in Japan, I'm planning
to install a Japanese one.

What manufacturer?

Much as I'd like to install a Toto Washlet, they're simply too much
money.

I've been talking to these people;

https://www.washloo.co.uk/products/washloo-classic

Was it well made? Did it fit a European WC pan? Were
the plumbing fitting threads compatible?

The Washloo stuff is all designed for the UK. The toilet pans in Japan
(well the "Western Style" ones, anyway) all looked the same as the UK.

It would be outside zone 2. I intend to use a switched fused flex outlet
fed by an RCD protected circuit.
I understand that it's notifiable, I have a pet part P competent person.

I'm afraid I am utterly indifferent to this.

The first problem I have encountered is that the Washloo requires a
mains pressure water supply, and I don't have one in the bathroom.

As a matter of interest, do you intend to comply with the bit of
building regulations that requires you to have a physical air gap in the
water supply? Do they have an approved device for this?



A double check valve?
£5 should cover that...

Illegal for class (or whatever) backflow risk. Must be an air break.

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Robin wrote:

On 04/02/2018 10:52, jim wrote:

A double check valve?
£5 should cover that...

He did say "physical air gap".

The regs on bidets etc are now draconian: I knew someone with a
chalet-style house who concluded he'd need planning permission for his
own water tower to get useable pressure.

Electromechanical devices to produce an air gap in mains water by
pumping the water into the top of a small tank do exist, but, in a gross
violation of (or possibly legal exception to) EU competition rules each
type has to be tested and approved by your *local* water undertaking.
And they are generally only available for the individual firm's plumbing
at a four figure price.

Duravit make one for their bidet WC, but it is not cheap and it is not
type approved. It does however meet the spirit of the water regs. and
I for one am happy to leave building control absence as a problem for my
heirs.




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Roger Hayter wrote:

jim k wrote:




A double check valve?
£5 should cover that...

Illegal for class (or whatever) backflow risk. Must be an air break.

Class 5 I mean.

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(Roger Hayter) Wrote in message:
jim k wrote:

(Roger Hayter) Wrote in message:
Huge wrote:

On 2018-02-03, Mike wrote:

Have you installed a Korean electric bidet toilet seat in the UK?

No, but having recently returned from a holiday in Japan, I'm planning
to install a Japanese one.

What manufacturer?

Much as I'd like to install a Toto Washlet, they're simply too much
money.

I've been talking to these people;

https://www.washloo.co.uk/products/washloo-classic

Was it well made? Did it fit a European WC pan? Were
the plumbing fitting threads compatible?

The Washloo stuff is all designed for the UK. The toilet pans in Japan
(well the "Western Style" ones, anyway) all looked the same as the UK.

It would be outside zone 2. I intend to use a switched fused flex outlet
fed by an RCD protected circuit.
I understand that it's notifiable, I have a pet part P competent person.

I'm afraid I am utterly indifferent to this.

The first problem I have encountered is that the Washloo requires a
mains pressure water supply, and I don't have one in the bathroom.

As a matter of interest, do you intend to comply with the bit of
building regulations that requires you to have a physical air gap in the
water supply? Do they have an approved device for this?



A double check valve?
£5 should cover that...

Illegal for class (or whatever) backflow risk. Must be an air break.


I know. Do read the thread.
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On 04/02/2018 13:35, Huge wrote:
On 2018-02-04, ARW wrote:
On 04/02/2018 10:52, jim wrote:
(Roger Hayter) Wrote in message:
Huge wrote:

On 2018-02-03, Mike wrote:

Have you installed a Korean electric bidet toilet seat in the UK?

No, but having recently returned from a holiday in Japan, I'm planning
to install a Japanese one.

What manufacturer?

Much as I'd like to install a Toto Washlet, they're simply too much
money.

I've been talking to these people;

https://www.washloo.co.uk/products/washloo-classic

Was it well made? Did it fit a European WC pan? Were
the plumbing fitting threads compatible?

The Washloo stuff is all designed for the UK. The toilet pans in Japan (well
the "Western Style" ones, anyway) all looked the same as the UK.

It would be outside zone 2. I intend to use a switched fused flex outlet
fed by an RCD protected circuit.
I understand that it's notifiable, I have a pet part P competent person.

I'm afraid I am utterly indifferent to this.

The first problem I have encountered is that the Washloo requires a mains
pressure water supply, and I don't have one in the bathroom.

As a matter of interest, do you intend to comply with the bit of
building regulations that requires you to have a physical air gap in the
water supply?

No. I am as indifferent to this as I am to Part P.

"Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools."

Normally attributed to Douglas Bader, but in "Reach for the Sky", this
quote is attributed to Harry Day, the Royal Flying Corps First World War
fighter ace.

Besides, it is impossible to comply with.

Rubbish, you just need a header tank to comply.
If there isn't enough pressure then you need a pump too.

dennis@home wrote:

On 04/02/2018 13:35, Huge wrote:
On 2018-02-04, ARW wrote:
On 04/02/2018 10:52, jim wrote:
(Roger Hayter) Wrote in message:



As a matter of interest, do you intend to comply with the bit of
building regulations that requires you to have a physical air gap in the
water supply?

No. I am as indifferent to this as I am to Part P.

"Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools."

Normally attributed to Douglas Bader, but in "Reach for the Sky", this
quote is attributed to Harry Day, the Royal Flying Corps First World War
fighter ace.

Besides, it is impossible to comply with.

Rubbish, you just need a header tank to comply.
If there isn't enough pressure then you need a pump too.

Wouldn't help me, as I've nowhere to put a header tank. But if suitable
pumps (?shower pumps?) are available to maintain a constant head at low
flow then that would seem to work.


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On 04/02/2018 14:36, Roger Hayter wrote:
dennis@home wrote:

On 04/02/2018 13:35, Huge wrote:
On 2018-02-04, ARW wrote:
On 04/02/2018 10:52, jim wrote:
(Roger Hayter) Wrote in message:



As a matter of interest, do you intend to comply with the bit of
building regulations that requires you to have a physical air gap in the
water supply?

No. I am as indifferent to this as I am to Part P.

"Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools."

Normally attributed to Douglas Bader, but in "Reach for the Sky", this
quote is attributed to Harry Day, the Royal Flying Corps First World War
fighter ace.

Besides, it is impossible to comply with.

Rubbish, you just need a header tank to comply.
If there isn't enough pressure then you need a pump too.

Wouldn't help me, as I've nowhere to put a header tank. But if suitable
pumps (?shower pumps?) are available to maintain a constant head at low
flow then that would seem to work.



A small diaphragm pump like they use in caravans or RO filters should be
enough.

On 04/02/2018 13:26, Roger Hayter wrote:
Robin wrote:

On 04/02/2018 10:52, jim wrote:

A double check valve?
£5 should cover that...

He did say "physical air gap".

The regs on bidets etc are now draconian: I knew someone with a
chalet-style house who concluded he'd need planning permission for his
own water tower to get useable pressure.

Electromechanical devices to produce an air gap in mains water by
pumping the water into the top of a small tank do exist, but, in a gross
violation of (or possibly legal exception to) EU competition rules each
type has to be tested and approved by your *local* water undertaking.
And they are generally only available for the individual firm's plumbing
at a four figure price.

Duravit make one for their bidet WC, but it is not cheap and it is not
type approved. It does however meet the spirit of the water regs. and
I for one am happy to leave building control absence as a problem for my
heirs.






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reply-to address is (intended to be) valid

On 04/02/2018 10:52, jim wrote:
(Roger Hayter) Wrote in message:
Huge wrote:

On 2018-02-03, Mike wrote:

Have you installed a Korean electric bidet toilet seat in the UK?

No, but having recently returned from a holiday in Japan, I'm planning
to install a Japanese one.

What manufacturer?

Much as I'd like to install a Toto Washlet, they're simply too much
money.

I've been talking to these people;

https://www.washloo.co.uk/products/washloo-classic

Was it well made? Did it fit a European WC pan? Were
the plumbing fitting threads compatible?

The Washloo stuff is all designed for the UK. The toilet pans in Japan (well
the "Western Style" ones, anyway) all looked the same as the UK.

It would be outside zone 2. I intend to use a switched fused flex outlet
fed by an RCD protected circuit.
I understand that it's notifiable, I have a pet part P competent person.

I'm afraid I am utterly indifferent to this.

The first problem I have encountered is that the Washloo requires a mains
pressure water supply, and I don't have one in the bathroom.

As a matter of interest, do you intend to comply with the bit of
building regulations that requires you to have a physical air gap in the
water supply? Do they have an approved device for this?



A double check valve?
£5 should cover that...


I would think so. After all, you are supposed to use one in several
other places for the same reason. eg. Hoses, showers if the 'head' can
fall into the tray/bath area so that 'back syphoning' can occur.


I've seen these 'hygiene' devices on a documentary covering the history
of the toilet (I'm serious, it is quite interesting). Quite a clever
idea, especially if you don't have space for a bidet. Cost wise,
probably quite reasonable compared to a quality bidet, plumbed in, etc.



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Roger Hayter wrote:
Huge wrote:

On 2018-02-03, Mike wrote:

Have you installed a Korean electric bidet toilet seat in the UK?

No, but having recently returned from a holiday in Japan, I'm planning
to install a Japanese one.

What manufacturer?

Much as I'd like to install a Toto Washlet, they're simply too much
money.

I've been talking to these people;

https://www.washloo.co.uk/products/washloo-classic

Was it well made? Did it fit a European WC pan? Were
the plumbing fitting threads compatible?

The Washloo stuff is all designed for the UK. The toilet pans in Japan (well
the "Western Style" ones, anyway) all looked the same as the UK.

It would be outside zone 2. I intend to use a switched fused flex outlet
fed by an RCD protected circuit.
I understand that it's notifiable, I have a pet part P competent person.

I'm afraid I am utterly indifferent to this.

The first problem I have encountered is that the Washloo requires a mains
pressure water supply, and I don't have one in the bathroom.

As a matter of interest, do you intend to comply with the bit of
building regulations that requires you to have a physical air gap in the
water supply? Do they have an approved device for this?



Easy. Dont bother complying and take it with me when I move house.

Tim

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On 2018-02-04, Robin wrote:

On 04/02/2018 10:52, jim wrote:

A double check valve?
£5 should cover that...

He did say "physical air gap".

The regs on bidets etc are now draconian: I knew someone with a
chalet-style house who concluded he'd need planning permission for his
own water tower to get useable pressure.

It makes you wonder why the parts of the world where mains-pressure
toilets & bidets are available aren't suffering from fecally
transmitted epidemics.

Adam Funk wrote:

On 2018-02-04, Robin wrote:

On 04/02/2018 10:52, jim wrote:

A double check valve?
£5 should cover that...

He did say "physical air gap".

The regs on bidets etc are now draconian: I knew someone with a
chalet-style house who concluded he'd need planning permission for his
own water tower to get useable pressure.

It makes you wonder why the parts of the world where mains-pressure
toilets & bidets are available aren't suffering from fecally
transmitted epidemics.

Many parts of the world they don't drink tap water unboiled.

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Adam Funk Wrote in message:
On 2018-02-04, Robin wrote:

On 04/02/2018 10:52, jim wrote:

A double check valve?
£5 should cover that...

He did say "physical air gap".

The regs on bidets etc are now draconian: I knew someone with a
chalet-style house who concluded he'd need planning permission for his
own water tower to get useable pressure.

It makes you wonder why the parts of the world where mains-pressure
toilets & bidets are available aren't suffering from fecally
transmitted epidemics.


Perhaps they are and so need these preposteriorous pressure
washing bidet gizmos to clean off the clinker from their blood
orange bugler's lips?
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On 2018-02-05, Roger Hayter wrote:

Adam Funk wrote:

On 2018-02-04, Robin wrote:

On 04/02/2018 10:52, jim wrote:

A double check valve?
£5 should cover that...

He did say "physical air gap".

The regs on bidets etc are now draconian: I knew someone with a
chalet-style house who concluded he'd need planning permission for his
own water tower to get useable pressure.

It makes you wonder why the parts of the world where mains-pressure
toilets & bidets are available aren't suffering from fecally
transmitted epidemics.

Many parts of the world they don't drink tap water unboiled.

True, but that doesn't apply to the places I had in mind.

On 2018-02-08, Huge wrote:

On 2018-02-08, Adam Funk wrote:
On 2018-02-05, Roger Hayter wrote:

Adam Funk wrote:

On 2018-02-04, Robin wrote:

On 04/02/2018 10:52, jim wrote:

A double check valve?
£5 should cover that...

He did say "physical air gap".

The regs on bidets etc are now draconian: I knew someone with a
chalet-style house who concluded he'd need planning permission for his
own water tower to get useable pressure.

It makes you wonder why the parts of the world where mains-pressure
toilets & bidets are available aren't suffering from fecally
transmitted epidemics.

Many parts of the world they don't drink tap water unboiled.

True, but that doesn't apply to the places I had in mind.

Toto Washlets are ubiquitous in Japan, even in public toilets (*), and yet I
don't recall there being regular cholera epidemics there.

(* It being Japan, the toilets are clean and unvandalised. I cannot
imagine a £1000 device that is held on by two readily accessible bolts
lasting long in a British public toilet.)

Too bad "we can't have nice things".