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This is the Royal System:
http://www.designaddict.com/cdn/farfuture/OmIL0ga5LXfqyiLpsfF993UAo-2eM4sXBoHyif6ph4Q/mtime:1487952511/sites/default/files/buyandsell/2016/09/621177-poul-cadovius-royal-system-teak.jpg

It's a modular, wall-mounted shelving system in teak, first created in
the late 1940s by Poul Cadovius.

The basic design, of uprights from which shelves are hung with brass
supports is also used in other systems, which I think were based on the
Royal System.

There's the Randers Møbelfabrik PS System, by Preben Sørensen:
https://cdn1.pamono.com/p/z/8/4/84391_uS762R3bZh/danish-wall-unit-ps-system-with-cabinets-drawers-and-shelves-for-randers-mobelfabrik-1960s-6.jpg.

And Sven Ellekaer's design for Albert Hansen
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/09/f1/0c/09f10ca99518efa03bc965223ee7dd08.jpg.

Any others from the same era?

I noticed that now even IKEA are doing their version:
http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/collections/svalnäs/. It looks OK, but
frankly bamboo doesn't can't match teak.

And a company is making the Royal System (sort of, they've messed it
about a bit) again:
http://www.dk3.dk/products/storage/royal-system®.aspx.

Daniele
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On 08/01/2018 21:27, D.M. Procida wrote:
This is the Royal System:
http://www.designaddict.com/cdn/farfuture/OmIL0ga5LXfqyiLpsfF993UAo-2eM4sXBoHyif6ph4Q/mtime:1487952511/sites/default/files/buyandsell/2016/09/621177-poul-cadovius-royal-system-teak.jpg

It's a modular, wall-mounted shelving system in teak, first created in
the late 1940s by Poul Cadovius.

The basic design, of uprights from which shelves are hung with brass
supports is also used in other systems, which I think were based on the
Royal System.

There's the Randers Møbelfabrik PS System, by Preben Sørensen:
https://cdn1.pamono.com/p/z/8/4/84391_uS762R3bZh/danish-wall-unit-ps-system-with-cabinets-drawers-and-shelves-for-randers-mobelfabrik-1960s-6.jpg.

And Sven Ellekaer's design for Albert Hansen
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/09/f1/0c/09f10ca99518efa03bc965223ee7dd08.jpg.

Any others from the same era?

I noticed that now even IKEA are doing their version:
http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/collections/svalnäs/. It looks OK, but
frankly bamboo doesn't can't match teak.

And a company is making the Royal System (sort of, they've messed it
about a bit) again:
http://www.dk3.dk/products/storage/royal-system®.aspx.

Daniele


Apart from being mechanically unsound and looking naff - what are the
advantages?
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Andy Bennet wrote:

On 08/01/2018 21:27, D.M. Procida wrote:
This is the Royal System:

http://www.designaddict.com/cdn/farf...psfF993UAo-2eM
4sXBoHyif6ph4Q/mtime:1487952511/sites/default/files/buyandsell/2016/09/6
21177-poul-cadovius-royal-system-teak.jpg

It's a modular, wall-mounted shelving system in teak, first created in
the late 1940s by Poul Cadovius.

The basic design, of uprights from which shelves are hung with brass
supports is also used in other systems, which I think were based on the
Royal System.


Apart from being mechanically unsound and looking naff - what are the
advantages?


I find the design quite beautiful. I love teak, and that Danish
modernist design.

What makes you doubt their strength? A column of those shelves will
happily take 100+ kg, though most people use them for books and small
objects, not their anvil collections.

Daniele
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On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 08:46:58 +0000, Andy Bennet wrote:

On 08/01/2018 21:27, D.M. Procida wrote:
This is the Royal System:
http://www.designaddict.com/cdn/farfuture/OmIL0ga5LXfqyiLpsfF993UAo-2eM4sXBoHyif6ph4Q/mtime:1487952511/sites/default/files/buyandsell/2016/09/621177-poul-cadovius-royal-system-teak.jpg


And a company is making the Royal System (sort of, they've messed it
about a bit) again:
http://www.dk3.dk/products/storage/royal-system®.aspx.

Daniele


Apart from being mechanically unsound and looking naff - what are the
advantages?


In some circumstances having the floor clear may make it easier to run
a vacuum around and avoid dust that builds up under floor standing
furniture which could be important for people with dust allergies,
in real life it would probably end up with something put there.

Is it really mechanically unsound for the job if the wall is strong
enough? Doesn't seem too different from thousands of other similar
arrangements from book shelves to viewing spots for tourists on the
side of mountains.

Looking Naff, I've seen worse, I've seen better. some like the
industrial look of dexion type systems or the shoe shop look from Spur
and derivatives while others seem to like the thin coated with foil
MDF offerings from Ikea etc.

G.Harman


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This is the Royal System:
http://www.designaddict.com/cdn/farfuture/OmIL0ga5LXfqyiLpsfF993UAo-2eM4sXBoHyif6ph4Q/mtime:1487952511/sites/default/files/buyandsell/2016/09/621177-poul-cadovius-royal-system-teak.jpg

It's a modular, wall-mounted shelving system in teak, first created in
the late 1940s by Poul Cadovius.

The basic design, of uprights from which shelves are hung with brass
supports is also used in other systems, which I think were based on the
Royal System.

There's the Randers Møbelfabrik PS System, by Preben Sørensen:
https://cdn1.pamono.com/p/z/8/4/84391_uS762R3bZh/danish-wall-unit-ps-system-with-cabinets-drawers-and-shelves-for-randers-mobelfabrik-1960s-6.jpg.

And Sven Ellekaer's design for Albert Hansen
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/09/f1/0c/09f10ca99518efa03bc965223ee7dd08.jpg.

Any others from the same era?

I noticed that now even IKEA are doing their version:
http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/collections/svalnäs/. It looks OK, but
frankly bamboo doesn't can't match teak.

And a company is making the Royal System (sort of, they've messed it
about a bit) again:
http://www.dk3.dk/products/storage/royal-system®.aspx.

Daniele


In the 1950s we were too busy with postwar austerity to bother with
avavant garde Scandinavian furniture designers.


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I find the design quite beautiful. I love teak, and that Danish
modernist design.


What's wrong with it are the metal support hangers
whose function is obvious but which don't blend in
with the rest of the design. They're made of metal
and have a rounded angle unlike the rest of the
design which is made of teak and is all right
angles.

Because of the impossibility of merging the hangers
seamlessly into the design this would always be a
poor compromise.

Similarly because the hangers will need to divide
the top surface of the shelf at regular intervals
into compartments unlike Spur and similar which are
hidden underneath, this poses a potential limitation
on the way items can be arranged on the shelves.
Rows of books for instance would have gaps at
regular intervals to accommodate the pairs of
hangers, which is far from ideal.

A classy solution insistent on teak throughout
would have concealed metal supports in both uprights
and shelves offering unbroken lengths of shelving

Cheap versions using rope as hangers look no worse
and at least offer the consolation of looking
utilitarian on purpose




michael adams

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Andy Bennet wrote:

On 08/01/2018 21:27, D.M. Procida wrote:
This is the Royal System:

http://www.designaddict.com/cdn/farf...psfF993UAo-2eM
4sXBoHyif6ph4Q/mtime:1487952511/sites/default/files/buyandsell/2016/09/6
21177-poul-cadovius-royal-system-teak.jpg

It's a modular, wall-mounted shelving system in teak, first created in
the late 1940s by Poul Cadovius.

The basic design, of uprights from which shelves are hung with brass
supports is also used in other systems, which I think were based on the
Royal System.


Apart from being mechanically unsound and looking naff - what are the
advantages?


I find the design quite beautiful.


I don’t, the mechanically unsound approach puts me off.

I love teak, and that Danish modernist design.


I do too, but mechanically unsound puts me right off.

What makes you doubt their strength?


The way the rod support for the shelf is done.

A column of those shelves will happily take 100+ kg,


Sure, but where the rod support attaches wont.

though most people use them for books and small objects,


I doubt it would survive being fully loaded books.

not their anvil collections.



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On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 08:46:58 +0000, Andy Bennet wrote:

On 08/01/2018 21:27, D.M. Procida wrote:
This is the Royal System:
http://www.designaddict.com/cdn/farfuture/OmIL0ga5LXfqyiLpsfF993UAo-2eM4sXBoHyif6ph4Q/mtime:1487952511/sites/default/files/buyandsell/2016/09/621177-poul-cadovius-royal-system-teak.jpg


And a company is making the Royal System (sort of, they've messed it
about a bit) again:
http://www.dk3.dk/products/storage/royal-system®.aspx.

Daniele


Apart from being mechanically unsound and
looking naff - what are the advantages?


In some circumstances having the floor clear may make it easier to run
a vacuum around and avoid dust that builds up under floor standing
furniture which could be important for people with dust allergies,
in real life it would probably end up with something put there.


Yes, but those with dust allergys could avoid doing that.

Is it really mechanically unsound for the job if the wall is strong
enough?


Yes, the rod supports for the shelves are.

Doesn't seem too different from thousands of
other similar arrangements from book shelves


I prefer the other approach of a long rectangular
frame with dexion 25mm black square slotted
tube verticals with welded horizontals at the
to and bottom and half way down. That stands
on the floor and is bolted to the wall too.

Aluminium flats go in the slots and
the shelves sit on the aluminium flats.

Doesn't look anything like as elegant, but
my bookshelves are completely full of books
so all you see is the book spines, the front
dexion verticals and the shelf edges.

I'm not into displaying small objects. The
Royal system looks a lot better for those.

to viewing spots for tourists on the side of mountains.


Those are completely different, nothing like as sparse a design.

Looking Naff, I've seen worse, I've seen better. some
like the industrial look of dexion type systems


Yeah, that's certainly a taste thing.

or the shoe shop look from Spur and derivatives while others
seem to like the thin coated with foil MDF offerings from Ikea etc.


I do prefer solid timber shelves, but they arent cheap.

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A column of those shelves will happily take 100+ kg,


Sure, but where the rod support attaches wont.

though most people use them for books and small objects,


I doubt it would survive being fully loaded books.


Have you actually seen these shelves? I mean, other than just now on the
web?

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I find the design quite beautiful. I love teak, and that Danish
modernist design.


What's wrong with it are the metal support hangers
whose function is obvious but which don't blend in
with the rest of the design. They're made of metal
and have a rounded angle unlike the rest of the
design which is made of teak and is all right
angles.

Because of the impossibility of merging the hangers
seamlessly into the design this would always be a
poor compromise.

Similarly because the hangers will need to divide
the top surface of the shelf at regular intervals
into compartments unlike Spur and similar which are
hidden underneath, this poses a potential limitation
on the way items can be arranged on the shelves.
Rows of books for instance would have gaps at
regular intervals to accommodate the pairs of
hangers, which is far from ideal.

A classy solution insistent on teak throughout
would have concealed metal supports in both uprights
and shelves offering unbroken lengths of shelving

Cheap versions using rope as hangers look no worse
and at least offer the consolation of looking
utilitarian on purpose




michael adams

...



+1. Also I think they look very dated.
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Rod Speed wrote:

A column of those shelves will happily take 100+ kg,


Sure, but where the rod support attaches wont.

though most people use them for books and small objects,


I doubt it would survive being fully loaded books.


Have you actually seen these shelves?
I mean, other than just now on the web?


Yep.

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