Not a person was stirring, not even a mouse.
Including the bloody fan on the cooker hood.
Lights work, control buttons for the fan (1,2,3) cause the indicator light
to come on, but no fan.

Searching so far suggests that fan motors don't usually fail so it is
probably the control board.

Christmas Eve (hic) is probably not the best time to start stripping down
electrical appliances so this will probably have to wait until the new
year.

I do have a ceiling extractor so all is not lost, but isn't it just sod's
law that the darn thing fails just when everyone is downing tools and
component supplies for a week?

Merry Christmas to one and all.

Bah, humbug.



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David Wrote in message:
Not a person was stirring, not even a mouse.
Including the bloody fan on the cooker hood.
Lights work, control buttons for the fan (1,2,3) cause the indicator light
to come on, but no fan.

Searching so far suggests that fan motors don't usually fail so it is
probably the control board.

Christmas Eve (hic) is probably not the best time to start stripping down
electrical appliances so this will probably have to wait until the new
year.

I do have a ceiling extractor so all is not lost, but isn't it just sod's
law that the darn thing fails just when everyone is downing tools and
component supplies for a week?

Merry Christmas to one and all.

Bah, humbug.

Indeed!

Similar happened to mine (but at a more convenient time of year
:-) ) I retrofitted a separately mounted fan, using same buttons
& filters etc and it's fab - much quieter as gubbins now
remote(r) & much more powerful.

Silver linings!

Merry Xmas!

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In message , David
writes
Not a person was stirring, not even a mouse.
Including the bloody fan on the cooker hood.
Lights work, control buttons for the fan (1,2,3) cause the indicator
light to come on, but no fan.

Serves you right for becoming a slave to modern technology.

I've just been ordered to stop talking and close the kitchen windows for
her.
--
Bill

On 24/12/2017 17:17, David wrote:
Not a person was stirring, not even a mouse.
Including the bloody fan on the cooker hood.
Lights work, control buttons for the fan (1,2,3) cause the indicator light
to come on, but no fan.

Searching so far suggests that fan motors don't usually fail so it is
probably the control board.

Christmas Eve (hic) is probably not the best time to start stripping down
electrical appliances so this will probably have to wait until the new
year.

I do have a ceiling extractor so all is not lost, but isn't it just sod's
law that the darn thing fails just when everyone is downing tools and
component supplies for a week?

Merry Christmas to one and all.

Bah, humbug.



Dave R


Never seen a control board on one of these. Usually a standard cheapest
possible induction motor. Failure mode is either the coil or (perhaps
more likely here) the bearings. Does the fan spin if you poke it? If
not, WD40 is your friend.

On Sunday, 24 December 2017 20:18:48 UTC, newshound wrote:
On 24/12/2017 17:17, David wrote:

Not a person was stirring, not even a mouse.
Including the bloody fan on the cooker hood.
Lights work, control buttons for the fan (1,2,3) cause the indicator light
to come on, but no fan.

Searching so far suggests that fan motors don't usually fail so it is
probably the control board.

Christmas Eve (hic) is probably not the best time to start stripping down
electrical appliances so this will probably have to wait until the new
year.

I do have a ceiling extractor so all is not lost, but isn't it just sod's
law that the darn thing fails just when everyone is downing tools and
component supplies for a week?

Merry Christmas to one and all.

Bah, humbug.



Dave R


Never seen a control board on one of these. Usually a standard cheapest
possible induction motor. Failure mode is either the coil or (perhaps
more likely here) the bearings. Does the fan spin if you poke it? If
not, WD40 is your friend.

No it's not. ATF is.


NT

Wrote in message:
On Sunday, 24 December 2017 20:18:48 UTC, newshound wrote:
On 24/12/2017 17:17, David wrote:

Not a person was stirring, not even a mouse.
Including the bloody fan on the cooker hood.
Lights work, control buttons for the fan (1,2,3) cause the indicator light
to come on, but no fan.

Searching so far suggests that fan motors don't usually fail so it is
probably the control board.

Christmas Eve (hic) is probably not the best time to start stripping down
electrical appliances so this will probably have to wait until the new
year.

I do have a ceiling extractor so all is not lost, but isn't it just sod's
law that the darn thing fails just when everyone is downing tools and
component supplies for a week?

Merry Christmas to one and all.

Bah, humbug.



Dave R


Never seen a control board on one of these. Usually a standard cheapest
possible induction motor. Failure mode is either the coil or (perhaps
more likely here) the bearings. Does the fan spin if you poke it? If
not, WD40 is your friend.

No it's not. ATF is.


NT


Automatic transmission fluid....??

So much for the season of goodwill you Sstf! :-)
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Why does everything these days need a control board. In the
past such mundane items simply cam on and off with a thermostat.
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"David" wrote in message
...
Not a person was stirring, not even a mouse.
Including the bloody fan on the cooker hood.
Lights work, control buttons for the fan (1,2,3) cause the indicator light
to come on, but no fan.

Searching so far suggests that fan motors don't usually fail so it is
probably the control board.

Christmas Eve (hic) is probably not the best time to start stripping down
electrical appliances so this will probably have to wait until the new
year.

I do have a ceiling extractor so all is not lost, but isn't it just sod's
law that the darn thing fails just when everyone is downing tools and
component supplies for a week?

Merry Christmas to one and all.

Bah, humbug.



Dave R


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On 24/12/2017 20:07, Bill wrote:
In message , David
writes
Not a person was stirring, not even a mouse.
Including the bloody fan on the cooker hood.
Lights work, control buttons for the fan (1,2,3) cause the indicator
light to come on, but no fan.

Serves you right for becoming a slave to modern technology.

I've just been ordered to stop talking and close the kitchen windows for
her.

Well at least it's not cold this year.

--
Adam

On Sunday, 24 December 2017 19:18:24 UTC, jim wrote:

I retrofitted a separately mounted fan, using same buttons
& filters etc and it's fab - much quieter as gubbins now
remote(r) & much more powerful.

I've been considering doing similar. What fan did you opt for Jim?

On Sun, 24 Dec 2017 20:18:45 +0000, newshound wrote:

On 24/12/2017 17:17, David wrote:
Not a person was stirring, not even a mouse.
Including the bloody fan on the cooker hood.
Lights work, control buttons for the fan (1,2,3) cause the indicator
light to come on, but no fan.

Searching so far suggests that fan motors don't usually fail so it is
probably the control board.

Christmas Eve (hic) is probably not the best time to start stripping
down electrical appliances so this will probably have to wait until the
new year.

I do have a ceiling extractor so all is not lost, but isn't it just
sod's law that the darn thing fails just when everyone is downing tools
and component supplies for a week?

Merry Christmas to one and all.

Bah, humbug.



Dave R


Never seen a control board on one of these. Usually a standard cheapest
possible induction motor. Failure mode is either the coil or (perhaps
more likely here) the bearings. Does the fan spin if you poke it? If
not, WD40 is your friend.

The fan is inside this shiny stainless steel tower above the hob, so
strictures on "do not disassemble" apply over the festive period.

From memory of looking up from below when changing/cleaning filters I'm
not sure the fan blades are pokeable.

Not like your Expelaire through the wall fan in a plastic frame where you
can poke it quite easily.

Cheers


Dave R



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On Sun, 24 Dec 2017 17:17:26 +0000, David wrote:

Not a person was stirring, not even a mouse.

From Larry the Cat (@Number10Cat on Twitter):


€˜Twas the night before Christmas, when all through the house
Not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse... Because Id eaten it.

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In article ,
newshound writes
On 24/12/2017 17:17, David wrote:
Not a person was stirring, not even a mouse.
Including the bloody fan on the cooker hood.
Lights work, control buttons for the fan (1,2,3) cause the indicator light
to come on, but no fan.
Searching so far suggests that fan motors don't usually fail so it
is
probably the control board.
Christmas Eve (hic) is probably not the best time to start stripping
down
electrical appliances so this will probably have to wait until the new
year.
I do have a ceiling extractor so all is not lost, but isn't it just
sod's
law that the darn thing fails just when everyone is downing tools and
component supplies for a week?
Merry Christmas to one and all.
Bah, humbug.
Dave R

Never seen a control board on one of these. Usually a standard cheapest
possible induction motor. Failure mode is either the coil or (perhaps
more likely here) the bearings. Does the fan spin if you poke it? If
not, WD40 is your friend.
Mine has a control board - well a printed circuit board. The symptoms
described by the OP are exactly the same as I suffered. Problem is the
current for 2 and 3 passes through the connection for 1 so if that goes
then the fan doesn't get any supply. First time it went I managed to
re-solder it but eventually bought a new card. Only brown buttons were
available but my original ss just transferred across.
--
bert

Brian Gaff wrote

Why does everything these days need a control board.

Not everything does.

In the past such mundane items simply cam on and off with a thermostat.

But you can get a better result with more intelligence than that.

For example, with a car heater, you get a better result if the fan
only comes on when the engine is warm enough to be able to
heat the car.

"David" wrote in message
...
Not a person was stirring, not even a mouse.
Including the bloody fan on the cooker hood.
Lights work, control buttons for the fan (1,2,3) cause the indicator
light
to come on, but no fan.

Searching so far suggests that fan motors don't usually fail so it is
probably the control board.

Christmas Eve (hic) is probably not the best time to start stripping down
electrical appliances so this will probably have to wait until the new
year.

I do have a ceiling extractor so all is not lost, but isn't it just sod's
law that the darn thing fails just when everyone is downing tools and
component supplies for a week?

Merry Christmas to one and all.

Bah, humbug.



Dave R


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On Sunday, 24 December 2017 22:35:02 UTC, jim wrote:
tabbypurr Wrote in message:
On Sunday, 24 December 2017 20:18:48 UTC, newshound wrote:
On 24/12/2017 17:17, David wrote:

Not a person was stirring, not even a mouse.
Including the bloody fan on the cooker hood.
Lights work, control buttons for the fan (1,2,3) cause the indicator light
to come on, but no fan.

Searching so far suggests that fan motors don't usually fail so it is
probably the control board.

Christmas Eve (hic) is probably not the best time to start stripping down
electrical appliances so this will probably have to wait until the new
year.

I do have a ceiling extractor so all is not lost, but isn't it just sod's
law that the darn thing fails just when everyone is downing tools and
component supplies for a week?

Merry Christmas to one and all.

Bah, humbug.

Never seen a control board on one of these. Usually a standard cheapest
possible induction motor. Failure mode is either the coil or (perhaps
more likely here) the bearings. Does the fan spin if you poke it? If
not, WD40 is your friend.

No it's not. ATF is.

Automatic transmission fluid....??

yes, of all the options for seized bearings WD40 is the worst & ATF the best.

So much for the season of goodwill you Sstf! :-)


NT

On Monday, 25 December 2017 18:57:21 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
Brian Gaff wrote

Why does everything these days need a control board.

Not everything does.

In the past such mundane items simply cam on and off with a thermostat.

But you can get a better result with more intelligence than that.

For example, with a car heater, you get a better result if the fan
only comes on when the engine is warm enough to be able to
heat the car.

which can be achieved by... a thermostat!

Mathew Newton Wrote in message:
On Sunday, 24 December 2017 19:18:24 UTC, jim wrote:

I retrofitted a separately mounted fan, using same buttons
& filters etc and it's fab - much quieter as gubbins now
remote(r) & much more powerful.

I've been considering doing similar. What fan did you opt for Jim?


Ooh twas a while ago but it's something that looks like....


FANTRONIX VK-100

If you want exact manufacturer & model I can have a rummage?

I bodged it in so it only has one speed (despite 3 buttons on old
hood controller) but it's so (comparatively) quiet & effective
it's not been a problem -the flowers outside bend over in the
draft from the exhaust whilst you are talking normally or
listening to radio etc right by the hood.

Istr you can get speed controllers but I tried without & haven't
felt the need for more than on & off - KISS :-)
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wrote in message
...
On Monday, 25 December 2017 18:57:21 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
Brian Gaff wrote

Why does everything these days need a control board.

Not everything does.

In the past such mundane items simply cam on and off with a thermostat.

But you can get a better result with more intelligence than that.

For example, with a car heater, you get a better result if the fan
only comes on when the engine is warm enough to be able to
heat the car.

which can be achieved by... a thermostat!

But not just the one that controls the heating
when the engine is a useful source of heat.

In article ,
David wrote:
Not a person was stirring, not even a mouse.
Including the bloody fan on the cooker hood.
Lights work, control buttons for the fan (1,2,3) cause the indicator light
to come on, but no fan.

Snap - mine failed too. Day before Xmas Eve. Horrid screech then stopped -
hoping some oil might sort it.

It's one of those that vents through the wall, and is tiled all around it.
So a replacement just bound to be a different size and or have the vent in
a different place. So I'm hoping it can be fixed - even if that costs more
than a new one. Had already upgraded the lighting from the original which
was pathetic.

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On Monday, 25 December 2017 23:49:29 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
tabbypurr wrote in message
...
On Monday, 25 December 2017 18:57:21 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
Brian Gaff wrote

Why does everything these days need a control board.

Not everything does.

In the past such mundane items simply cam on and off with a thermostat.

But you can get a better result with more intelligence than that.

For example, with a car heater, you get a better result if the fan
only comes on when the engine is warm enough to be able to
heat the car.

which can be achieved by... a thermostat!

But not just the one that controls the heating
when the engine is a useful source of heat.

thank you for proving beyond the slightest doubt that you are a pointless troll. Your reply will be ignored.

wrote in message
...
On Monday, 25 December 2017 23:49:29 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
tabbypurr wrote in message
...
On Monday, 25 December 2017 18:57:21 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
Brian Gaff wrote

Why does everything these days need a control board.

Not everything does.

In the past such mundane items simply cam on and off with a
thermostat.

But you can get a better result with more intelligence than that.

For example, with a car heater, you get a better result if the fan
only comes on when the engine is warm enough to be able to
heat the car.

which can be achieved by... a thermostat!

But not just the one that controls the heating
when the engine is a useful source of heat.

thank you for proving beyond the slightest doubt that you are a pointless
troll.

You never could bull**** your way out of a wet paper bag.

On Tuesday, 26 December 2017 18:55:52 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
tabbypurr wrote in message

thank you for proving beyond the slightest doubt that you are a pointless
troll.

You never could bull**** your way out of a wet paper bag.

Probably not, I've never tried. I'll leave doing that to you.


NT

wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, 26 December 2017 18:55:52 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
tabbypurr wrote in message

thank you for proving beyond the slightest doubt that you are a
pointless
troll.

You never could bull**** your way out of a wet paper bag.

Probably not, I've never tried.

You never could bull**** your way out of a wet paper bag.

On Tuesday, 26 December 2017 22:02:47 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
tabbypurr wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, 26 December 2017 18:55:52 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
tabbypurr wrote in message

thank you for proving beyond the slightest doubt that you are a
pointless
troll.

You never could bull**** your way out of a wet paper bag.

Probably not, I've never tried.

You never could bull**** your way out of a wet paper bag.

it's broken. AI failed.

wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, 26 December 2017 22:02:47 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
tabbypurr wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, 26 December 2017 18:55:52 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
tabbypurr wrote in message

thank you for proving beyond the slightest doubt that you are a
pointless
troll.

You never could bull**** your way out of a wet paper bag.

Probably not, I've never tried.

You never could bull**** your way out of a wet paper bag.

it's broken. AI failed.

You never could bull**** your way out of a wet paper bag.

In article ,
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
David wrote:
Not a person was stirring, not even a mouse. Including the bloody fan
on the cooker hood. Lights work, control buttons for the fan (1,2,3)
cause the indicator light to come on, but no fan.

Snap - mine failed too. Day before Xmas Eve. Horrid screech then stopped -
hoping some oil might sort it.

And it did. Fan and motor very easy to remove with the unit still in place.
Oiled the bearing on fan end (one at other end of the motor looked sealed)
and it's running again.

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On Monday, 25 December 2017 23:33:05 UTC, jim wrote:

Ooh twas a while ago but it's something that looks like....

FANTRONIX VK-100

If you want exact manufacturer & model I can have a rummage?


No, that's okay - thanks Jim. I am just casually looking at different options, specs, sizes etc so it is good just to see what others went for.

I did consider trying to integrate speed control with the existing hood but decided instead to ensure that a single speed will suffice in terms of noise and performance. Given the remote location of the inline fan I am aiming for these aspects to not be mutually exclusive.

On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 18:47:02 +0000, bert wrote:

In article ,
newshound writes
On 24/12/2017 17:17, David wrote:
Not a person was stirring, not even a mouse.
Including the bloody fan on the cooker hood.
Lights work, control buttons for the fan (1,2,3) cause the indicator
light to come on, but no fan.
Searching so far suggests that fan motors don't usually fail so it
is
probably the control board.
Christmas Eve (hic) is probably not the best time to start stripping
down
electrical appliances so this will probably have to wait until the new
year.
I do have a ceiling extractor so all is not lost, but isn't it just
sod's
law that the darn thing fails just when everyone is downing tools and
component supplies for a week?
Merry Christmas to one and all.
Bah, humbug.
Dave R

Never seen a control board on one of these. Usually a standard cheapest
possible induction motor. Failure mode is either the coil or (perhaps
more likely here) the bearings. Does the fan spin if you poke it? If
not, WD40 is your friend.
Mine has a control board - well a printed circuit board. The symptoms
described by the OP are exactly the same as I suffered. Problem is the
current for 2 and 3 passes through the connection for 1 so if that goes
then the fan doesn't get any supply. First time it went I managed to
re-solder it but eventually bought a new card. Only brown buttons were
available but my original ss just transferred across.

Just getting around to trying to fix it.

Which make was yours?

Cheers


Dave R





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