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https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_In...tic/index.html
Anyone used these or recommend similar? A bit expensive compared to a light switch, but Looks like they will save a load of effort and mess. Ta, Rick |
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"R D S" wrote in message news https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_In...tic/index.html Anyone used these or recommend similar? A bit expensive compared to a light switch, but Looks like they will save a load of effort and mess. Ta, Rick thought they looked quite inexpensive....don't like the clearance bit ...... |
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On 03/12/2017 18:21, R D S wrote:
https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_In...tic/index.html Anyone used these or recommend similar? A bit expensive compared to a light switch, but Looks like they will save a load of effort and mess. Ta, Rick Don't they need L&N and a feed out and back to the lamp making them difficult to install in some places. |
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"dennis@home" wrote in message web.com... On 03/12/2017 18:21, R D S wrote: https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_In...tic/index.html Anyone used these or recommend similar? A bit expensive compared to a light switch, but Looks like they will save a load of effort and mess. Ta, Rick Don't they need L&N and a feed out and back to the lamp making them difficult to install in some places. Innovation of Wireless Kinetic Technology The Quinetic wireless switch has a built-in micro energy generator. The action or pressing the switch, generates enough kinetic energy to create and transmit a radio signal and switch on/off via a receiver (wireless controller) the lamp or other loads This solves an age old problem of having to install switch wiring over the past 130 years since the invention of the light bulb No Wiring. No Battery. Easy Installation |
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On 03/12/2017 18:21, R D S wrote:
https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_In...tic/index.html Anyone used these or recommend similar? A bit expensive compared to a light switch, but Looks like they will save a load of effort and mess. Ta, Rick I can think of places where they might be cost-effective, but for lights a simple PIR is probably usually going to be better. I've just installed a couple of PIR lights in the back of standard transport containers which are just being used as static storage. All you have to do is open the door and wave, and the light comes on. Can recommend these https://www.screwfix.com/p/lap-ar050...670lm-8w/6470v (I think the ones I put in were actually 6 watt for about £18) |
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https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_In...tic/index.html Anyone used these or recommend similar? A bit expensive compared to a light switch, but Looks like they will save a load of effort and mess. I do it the other way, use Homekit etc so the phone etc does it all. That way I dont have to go to the switch at all and can automate almost everything using movement sensors. |
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On 03/12/2017 19:26, bm wrote:
"dennis@home" wrote in message web.com... On 03/12/2017 18:21, R D S wrote: https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_In...tic/index.html Anyone used these or recommend similar? A bit expensive compared to a light switch, but Looks like they will save a load of effort and mess. Ta, Rick Don't they need L&N and a feed out and back to the lamp making them difficult to install in some places. Innovation of Wireless Kinetic Technology The Quinetic wireless switch has a built-in micro energy generator. The action or pressing the switch, generates enough kinetic energy to create and transmit a radio signal and switch on/off via a receiver (wireless controller) the lamp or other loads This solves an age old problem of having to install switch wiring over the past 130 years since the invention of the light bulb No Wiring. No Battery. Easy Installation The control module! You can tell he is a brexiteer. |
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On Sun, 3 Dec 2017 18:21:43 +0000, R D S wrote:
https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_In...tic/index.html Anyone used these or recommend similar? A bit expensive compared to a light switch, but Looks like they will save a load of effort and mess. Ta, Rick --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com I haven't used them Rick but I shall be as there are a couple of situations where an extra light is wanted but I have been putting off doing the job because of the dust that chasing a wall causes. Thanks for identifying them. Mike -- |
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On 03/12/2017 18:48, dennis@home wrote:
On 03/12/2017 18:21, R D S wrote: https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_In...tic/index.html Anyone used these or recommend similar? A bit expensive compared to a light switch, but Looks like they will save a load of effort and mess. Ta, Rick Don't they need L&N and a feed out and back to the lamp making them difficult to install in some places. If your wiring is loop through, you will have a permanent live and neutral at the ceiling rose already. If not, you will have at least a switched live and a neutral, so remove the existing switch and replace with a terminal block to give a permanent live. In either case, connect receiver at ceiling rose, now you can add as many wireless switches as you need. SteveW |
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R D S wrote: https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_In...tic/index.html Anyone used these or recommend similar? Not used any, but you might want to look at EnOcean as well If your wiring is loop through, you will have a permanent live and neutral at the ceiling rose already. If not, you will have at least a switched live and a neutral, so remove the existing switch and replace with a terminal block to give a permanent live. In either case, connect receiver at ceiling rose, now you can add as many wireless switches as you need. You might need to make a substantial hole in ceiling to shove the receiver in adjacent to rose ... |
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On Sun, 3 Dec 2017 18:21:43 +0000, R D S wrote:
https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_In...tic/index.html Anyone used these or recommend similar? A bit expensive compared to a light switch, but Looks like they will save a load of effort and mess. Ta, Rick --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com I have located a much cheaper option Rick: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Acegoo-Wi...AOSwol5Yxhf 2 |
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On Sun, 3 Dec 2017 18:21:43 +0000, R D S wrote: https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_In...tic/index.html Anyone used these or recommend similar? A bit expensive compared to a light switch, but Looks like they will save a load of effort and mess. Ta, Rick --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com I have located a much cheaper option Rick: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Acegoo-Wi...AOSwol5Yxhf 2 Look again! The item you show is the switch only. A switch and receiver is over £33 very similar to the TLC product. |
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On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 08:01:04 +0000, Bob Minchin
wrote: wrote: On Sun, 3 Dec 2017 18:21:43 +0000, R D S wrote: https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_In...tic/index.html Anyone used these or recommend similar? A bit expensive compared to a light switch, but Looks like they will save a load of effort and mess. Ta, Rick --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com I have located a much cheaper option Rick: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Acegoo-Wi...AOSwol5Yxhf 2 Look again! The item you show is the switch only. A switch and receiver is over £33 very similar to the TLC product. Ah yes I gave the wrong link - £28 for the pair .. but they may have only one https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kinetic-W...AOSw~HBaHEm b |
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On Sun, 3 Dec 2017 18:21:43 +0000, R D S wrote:
https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_In...tic/index.html Anyone used these or recommend similar? A bit expensive compared to a light switch, but Looks like they will save a load of effort and mess. ARW should definitely get one so he could covertly film his latest apprentice trying to sort out the switch wiring. |
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On 03/12/2017 19:26, bm wrote:
"dennis@home" wrote in message web.com... On 03/12/2017 18:21, R D S wrote: https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_In...tic/index.html Anyone used these or recommend similar? A bit expensive compared to a light switch, but Looks like they will save a load of effort and mess. Ta, Rick Don't they need L&N and a feed out and back to the lamp making them difficult to install in some places. Innovation of Wireless Kinetic Technology The Quinetic wireless switch has a built-in micro energy generator. The action or pressing the switch, generates enough kinetic energy to create and transmit a radio signal and switch on/off via a receiver (wireless controller) the lamp or other loads This solves an age old problem of having to install switch wiring over the past 130 years since the invention of the light bulb No Wiring. No Battery. Easy Installation No more switching off the light to save energy, because the controller is energised 24/7. Still the £200 free winter heating allowance will cover it. |
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On 03/12/2017 22:18, Bob Minchin wrote:
Works brilliantly. The switch is loose on the occasional table along the chair used by my semi disabled wife and she can work things without moving from her chair. I presume your wifes name is not Alexa ? |
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On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 08:01:04 +0000, Bob Minchin wrote: wrote: On Sun, 3 Dec 2017 18:21:43 +0000, R D S wrote: https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_In...tic/index.html Anyone used these or recommend similar? A bit expensive compared to a light switch, but Looks like they will save a load of effort and mess. Ta, Rick --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com I have located a much cheaper option Rick: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Acegoo-Wi...AOSwol5Yxhf 2 Look again! The item you show is the switch only. A switch and receiver is over £33 very similar to the TLC product. Ah yes I gave the wrong link - £28 for the pair .. but they may have only one https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kinetic-W...AOSw~HBaHEm b Can you be sure that's for the pair? Seller doesn't know what county he's in! |
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On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 21:59:39 +0000, R D S wrote:
On 04/12/17 08:20, wrote: On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 08:01:04 +0000, Bob Minchin wrote: wrote: On Sun, 3 Dec 2017 18:21:43 +0000, R D S wrote: https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_In...tic/index.html Anyone used these or recommend similar? A bit expensive compared to a light switch, but Looks like they will save a load of effort and mess. Ta, Rick --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com I have located a much cheaper option Rick: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Acegoo-Wi...AOSwol5Yxhf 2 Look again! The item you show is the switch only. A switch and receiver is over £33 very similar to the TLC product. Ah yes I gave the wrong link - £28 for the pair .. but they may have only one https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kinetic-W...AOSw~HBaHEm b Can you be sure that's for the pair? Seller doesn't know what county he's in! For sure, I checked with them this morning and they confirmed it is for the pair and they do have a quantity. They said "Thank you for your enquiry, yes it does come with the receiver and we do have a lot in stock with us being a new online business we can only list a certain amount, how many are you looking for? Kind Regards Tina". Shortly after they said, " I've managed to be able to list more items after ebay were happy with our credentials so just let me know how many you would like I can send you an offer." You will see that the listing has gone up to 10. They are a new seller and finding their feet, got to start somewhere. I see what you mean about address ... Lancashire instead of Lanarkshire entered. |
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On Sun, 3 Dec 2017 18:21:43 +0000, R D S wrote:
https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_In...tic/index.html Anyone used these or recommend similar? A bit expensive compared to a light switch, but Looks like they will save a load of effort and mess. Ta, Rick --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com Rick, I ordered one of these (mentioned earlier) and it arrived today https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kinetic-W...AOSw~HBaHEm b Absolutely delighted with it; tested with incandescent, CFL and LED lamps, high and low power. I didn't take the load anywhere near the rated current of 10A but no reason to think it wouldn't be good. Mike |
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On Sun, 3 Dec 2017 18:21:43 +0000, R D S wrote: https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_In...tic/index.html Anyone used these or recommend similar? A bit expensive compared to a light switch, but Looks like they will save a load of effort and mess. Ta, Rick --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com Rick, I ordered one of these (mentioned earlier) and it arrived today https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kinetic-W...AOSw~HBaHEm b Absolutely delighted with it; tested with incandescent, CFL and LED lamps, high and low power. I didn't take the load anywhere near the rated current of 10A but no reason to think it wouldn't be good. Mike That listing shows a two gang switch but only a single receiver. Is this what you got from them? |
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On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 16:37:31 +0000, Bob Minchin
wrote: wrote: On Sun, 3 Dec 2017 18:21:43 +0000, R D S wrote: https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_In...tic/index.html Anyone used these or recommend similar? A bit expensive compared to a light switch, but Looks like they will save a load of effort and mess. Ta, Rick --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com Rick, I ordered one of these (mentioned earlier) and it arrived today https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kinetic-W...AOSw~HBaHEm b Absolutely delighted with it; tested with incandescent, CFL and LED lamps, high and low power. I didn't take the load anywhere near the rated current of 10A but no reason to think it wouldn't be good. Mike That listing shows a two gang switch but only a single receiver. Is this what you got from them? Bob, no as expected, a single-gang switch was supplied along with the single receiver. Mike -- |
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On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 16:37:31 +0000, Bob Minchin wrote: wrote: On Sun, 3 Dec 2017 18:21:43 +0000, R D S wrote: https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_In...tic/index.html Anyone used these or recommend similar? A bit expensive compared to a light switch, but Looks like they will save a load of effort and mess. Ta, Rick --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com Rick, I ordered one of these (mentioned earlier) and it arrived today https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kinetic-W...AOSw~HBaHEm b Absolutely delighted with it; tested with incandescent, CFL and LED lamps, high and low power. I didn't take the load anywhere near the rated current of 10A but no reason to think it wouldn't be good. Mike That listing shows a two gang switch but only a single receiver. Is this what you got from them? Bob, no as expected, a single-gang switch was supplied along with the single receiver. Mike -- Thanks Mike, I was under the impression that TLC had the sole agency on these Quinetic products - I could be wrong. I've been very impressed with them and have had them working daily for the last 4 months or so. I also had the need to modify one to isolated momentary action and opened up a receiver which I thought was well designed & built. |
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On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 22:16:55 +0000, Bob Minchin
wrote: Thanks Mike, I was under the impression that TLC had the sole agency on these Quinetic products - I could be wrong. I've been very impressed with them and have had them working daily for the last 4 months or so. I also had the need to modify one to isolated momentary action and opened up a receiver which I thought was well designed & built. I hadn't twigged that the TLC ones are branded as Quinetic but these are branded ENER-J and the Ebay advert only uses the word spelt as Kinetic being the way the switch produces energy. ENER-J is screen printed on the fuse on the controller; the TLC advert doesn't show a brand mark. Other than that they look absolutely identical. I hadn't looked before you raised this but I found the ENER-J web site and that says that they are not for sale in the UK! I located their Facebook page and asked on there the reason, especially if it was due to the frequency used or other regulation and got a very quick reply "Hi mike Its nothing to do with legality. We have got license to sell across EUROPE but have limited market in the UK for now." So I checked on the Model number on the reverse of the module - ERC304 and here we have a distributor/manufacturer in China selling at $11USD for the 100 rate: http://baydosz.manufacturer.globalso...Controller.htm So yes I guess Quinetic do only sell through TLC and they have branded the same item that ENER-J market; all bought in from Baydosz in China. Mike --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
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