Adam Funk wrote:

I'm still using up a stock of CFLs in [...] security lights outside

I found them annoyingly slow starting on outdoor PIRs, so swapped them
to LED before they died.

The only CFLs here now are in the loft, where usage is so infrequent
they'll effectively last forever, but I have a handful of the 10p
supermarket 'giveaways' as spares.

On 07/12/17 16:38, Huge wrote:
On 2017-12-07, Adam Funk wrote:
On 2017-12-06, Huge wrote:

FWIW, I have. And I've mostly been replacing CFLs with LED. IIRC, we have
virtually no CFLs, about 90% LED and a few GLS.

I'm still using up a stock of CFLs in multi-lamp fittings (the one
hanging from the dining room ceiling takes 3 lamps, so CFLs are
sufficient) & security lights outside, but otherwise going with LEDs
too.

I have loads of the free CFLs the energy companies were dishing out. I
suspect I have enough to last me the rest of my life.


When I moved to the new house last year, virtually every lamp was CFL,
have now changed every one to LED. Also bought enough LED tubes to
replace all the dim fluorescents in workshop and shed, just waiting for
the tuits.



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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article l.net,
Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Wed, 06 Dec 2017 19:52:23 GMT, Johnny B Good wrote:

I did briefly consider the expensive "LED Tube" fitting option until I
saw just how low their lumens output was and how directed it would have
been onto the kitchen floor and away from the ceiling and worktops.

Well both the Aldi and branded Philips replacement tubes I have are
only marginally less omnidirectional than a standard tube.

at better than 100 LPW,

I don't buy LED unless it is = 100 l/W. OK the Aldi tubes are (on
paper) 91 l/W close enough and better than most LEDs out there.

I have colour matching north light tubes in the workshop. Is there a LED
equivalent?

Yep, and tubes that you can have at any color temp
you like any time you tell it to operate like that too.

On 2017-12-07, Huge wrote:

On 2017-12-07, Adam Funk wrote:
On 2017-12-06, Huge wrote:
On 2017-12-06, Adam Funk wrote:

Have you gone mostly LED at home? (Honest question, not looking for
an argument.)

FWIW, I have. And I've mostly been replacing CFLs with LED. IIRC, we have
virtually no CFLs, about 90% LED and a few GLS.

I'm still using up a stock of CFLs in multi-lamp fittings (the one
hanging from the dining room ceiling takes 3 lamps, so CFLs are
sufficient) & security lights outside, but otherwise going with LEDs
too.

I have loads of the free CFLs the energy companies were dishing out. I
suspect I have enough to last me the rest of my life.

I suspect that's where my stock came from. Unfortunately we now have
a bunch of different fitting types in the house, so they're not always
compatible where I need to replace em.

On 2017-12-07, Andy Burns wrote:

Adam Funk wrote:

I'm still using up a stock of CFLs in [...] security lights outside

I found them annoyingly slow starting on outdoor PIRs, so swapped them
to LED before they died.

The only CFLs here now are in the loft, where usage is so infrequent
they'll effectively last forever, but I have a handful of the 10p
supermarket 'giveaways' as spares.

They do have a noticeable start-up, especially in cold weather, but I
find them good enough for getting to the worm bin or the shed (which
has a better light inside) in the evening. I'd rather put up with
that outside occasionally than inside frequently (until I use up the
CFL stock).

"Adam Funk" wrote in message
...
I have loads of the free CFLs the energy companies were dishing out. I
suspect I have enough to last me the rest of my life.

I suspect that's where my stock came from. Unfortunately we now have
a bunch of different fitting types in the house, so they're not always
compatible where I need to replace em.

Yes, one of the problems with modern light bulbs is that they have various
different fittings - large bayonet, small bayonet, large edison screw, small
edison screw. And some CFLs and LEDs are only made with one fitting, so you
need to change your fitting (or get an adaptor which increases the overall
length).

My previous house had been a show house for the development and so all the
light fittings were supplied with the house. And almost every fitting used a
different type of bulb, so I needed to keep a stock of candle bulbs (SBC and
SES), conventional bulbs (LBC and LES) and *low-voltage* mini-spotlight -
the bathroom, the hall, the landing and the kitchen all had transformers in
the loft to power 12V spotlights (ie not mains-powered GU10 bulbs). Most
shops stocked GU10 bulbs, but not many stocked the similarly-sized 12V
equivalent.

In article ,
Adam Funk wrote:
They do have a noticeable start-up, especially in cold weather, but I
find them good enough for getting to the worm bin or the shed (which
has a better light inside) in the evening. I'd rather put up with
that outside occasionally than inside frequently (until I use up the
CFL stock).

If all you're doing is using a light for a very short time, does how much
energy it uses really matter?

Probably why so many CFLs end up lighting cupboards, etc.

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On 2017-12-08, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Adam Funk wrote:
They do have a noticeable start-up, especially in cold weather, but I
find them good enough for getting to the worm bin or the shed (which
has a better light inside) in the evening. I'd rather put up with
that outside occasionally than inside frequently (until I use up the
CFL stock).

If all you're doing is using a light for a very short time, does how much
energy it uses really matter?

Probably why so many CFLs end up lighting cupboards, etc.

Not so much energy use as:

1. using up the stock of CFLs;

2. not being left in the dark by a failure (incandescents just stop
working completely; CFLs usually get dim before they fail)

On 2017-12-08, Huge wrote:

On 2017-12-08, Adam Funk wrote:
On 2017-12-07, Huge wrote:

I have loads of the free CFLs the energy companies were dishing out. I
suspect I have enough to last me the rest of my life.

I suspect that's where my stock came from. Unfortunately we now have
a bunch of different fitting types in the house, so they're not always
compatible where I need to replace em.

After we moved, I went round the house and tallied up the fittings, then
threw away all the bulbs we had no use for (actually, I gave them back
to to the people who bought our house, since they had the appropriate
fittings and I can't bear to throw away perfectly functional "stuff".)
When the end of filament bulbs was announced, I stocked up. Totally
unnecessarily as it turns out, since they're still widely available, and
we had loads left over.

Annoyingly, I've just had to buy some R63 spotlight bulbs for our study,
since I hated the CFLs in there and couldn't find a good LED equivalent.
They're about the only incandescent bulbs left in the house.

Yes, I think I posted here years ago asking for recommendations for
good, bright R63 CFLs, but you guys confirmed that no-one made any
over "60 W equivalent".

I had to rip out the false drop ceiling in the kitchen a couple of
years ago because of a loose screw terminal in a junction box buried
in the real ceiling, but one long-term benefit (apart from a bit more
storage space on top of the cupboards) was getting rid of the last 4
R63 fittings in the house.