Thanks to SWMBO i now have a nasty scratch on my old Toyota Corolla
bumper, right down to the freshly 'grooved' black plastic underneath.
As a complete beginner i typed in: 'paint car UK' in YouTube, and get
over a million results.
As a beginner, i will have to follow instructions slavishly, so really
need to find the right site, from somebody who really knows what they
are doing.
Would anyone 'in-the-know' be able to recommend a particular YouTube
site, showing spraying for a beginner please?
Thanks.

On 19/09/2017 14:47, john west wrote:
Thanks to SWMBO i now have a nasty scratch on my old Toyota Corolla
bumper, right down to the freshly 'grooved' black plastic underneath.
As a complete beginner i typed in: 'paint car UK' in YouTube, and get
over a millionÂ* results.
As a beginner, i will have to follow instructions slavishly, so really
need to find the right site, from somebody who really knows what they
are doing.
Would anyone 'in-the-know' be able to recommend a particular YouTube
site, showing spraying for a beginner please?
Thanks.

Haynes manuals do a very good (not English made) book which would cover
all your needs.

On 19/09/17 14:47, john west wrote:
Thanks to SWMBO i now have a nasty scratch on my old Toyota Corolla
bumper, right down to the freshly 'grooved' black plastic underneath.
As a complete beginner i typed in: 'paint car UK' in YouTube, and get
over a millionÂ* results.
As a beginner, i will have to follow instructions slavishly, so really
need to find the right site, from somebody who really knows what they
are doing.
Would anyone 'in-the-know' be able to recommend a particular YouTube
site, showing spraying for a beginner please?
Thanks.
There must be hundreds, but if it is a bumper, easiest would be to
remove it, sand down old paint, and use som form of plastic putty to
fill in the scratch and then spray primer/undercaota/top coat on itr or
take it at that point to a spray painter who will do it for a few tenners.



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On 19/09/2017 14:47, john west wrote:

Thanks to SWMBO i now have a nasty scratch on my old Toyota Corolla
bumper, right down to the freshly 'grooved' black plastic underneath.
As a complete beginner i typed in: 'paint car UK' in YouTube, and get
over a millionÂ* results.

Put it down to fair wear and tear and leave it as it is.

As a beginner, i will have to follow instructions slavishly, so really
need to find the right site, from somebody who really knows what they
are doing.

Depending on how deep it is you may need to fill first. Otherwise for
somewhere not so obvious you might get away with touch up brush paint
and a steady hand. Never as good at blending in as a spray. Beware that
the match between original colour panels (plus N years in direct
sunlight) and fresh paint may not be as close as you might hope.

Cocktail sticks are good for applying paint to small linear scratches.

Would anyone 'in-the-know' be able to recommend a particular YouTube
site, showing spraying for a beginner please?
Thanks.

You will need to practice a few times on sacrificial targets first.

The difference between a nice even layer put on from the right distance
evenly and something that turns into orange peel after a few seconds is
not huge and a moments hesitation could well end up as a paint run. It
is a bit easier if the surface being painted is horizontal - no runs.

You will need practice and you can't get that from watching videos.

I suggest masking off all adjacent areas with masking tape and newspaper
and doing it on a still dry windless day. Beware some masking tapes can
leave a residue that affects the clear top coat

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john west wrote:
Thanks to SWMBO i now have a nasty scratch on my old Toyota Corolla
bumper, right down to the freshly 'grooved' black plastic underneath.
As a complete beginner i typed in: 'paint car UK' in YouTube, and get
over a million results.
As a beginner, i will have to follow instructions slavishly, so really
need to find the right site, from somebody who really knows what they
are doing.
Would anyone 'in-the-know' be able to recommend a particular YouTube
site, showing spraying for a beginner please?
Thanks.

Seems a bit of a wasted effort as the next week she'll do it again.
BTDTGTTS!

On 19/09/2017 16:05, Martin Brown wrote:

Cocktail sticks are good for applying paint to small linear scratches.

Discard the brush that comes with the touch up paint and buy thin
"artists" brushes - the kind you can get 10 off for £1 in a pound shop.
The thin brush allow you to fill a scratch with paint without going over
the surrounding remaining paint.



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In article ,
john west wrote:
Thanks to SWMBO i now have a nasty scratch on my old Toyota Corolla
bumper, right down to the freshly 'grooved' black plastic underneath.
As a complete beginner i typed in: 'paint car UK' in YouTube, and get
over a million results.
As a beginner, i will have to follow instructions slavishly, so really
need to find the right site, from somebody who really knows what they
are doing.
Would anyone 'in-the-know' be able to recommend a particular YouTube
site, showing spraying for a beginner please?
Thanks.

Is it a solid colour or metallic?

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In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 19/09/17 14:47, john west wrote:
Thanks to SWMBO i now have a nasty scratch on my old Toyota Corolla
bumper, right down to the freshly 'grooved' black plastic underneath.
As a complete beginner i typed in: 'paint car UK' in YouTube, and get
over a million results.
As a beginner, i will have to follow instructions slavishly, so really
need to find the right site, from somebody who really knows what they
are doing.
Would anyone 'in-the-know' be able to recommend a particular YouTube
site, showing spraying for a beginner please?
Thanks.
There must be hundreds, but if it is a bumper, easiest would be to
remove it, sand down old paint, and use som form of plastic putty to
fill in the scratch and then spray primer/undercaota/top coat on itr or
take it at that point to a spray painter who will do it for a few
tenners.

Must be many many years since you paid for spraying.


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1, when it clogs and is still under pressure do not look at it and poke it
with a pointy thing.
There you can have that for free.
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news
Thanks to SWMBO i now have a nasty scratch on my old Toyota Corolla
bumper, right down to the freshly 'grooved' black plastic underneath.
As a complete beginner i typed in: 'paint car UK' in YouTube, and get over
a million results.
As a beginner, i will have to follow instructions slavishly, so really
need to find the right site, from somebody who really knows what they are
doing.
Would anyone 'in-the-know' be able to recommend a particular YouTube site,
showing spraying for a beginner please?
Thanks.

On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 14:47:02 +0100, john west wrote:

As a beginner, i will have to follow instructions slavishly, so really
need to find the right site, from somebody who really knows what they
are doing.

Car Mechanics magazine has a feature this month covering precisely this
topic for novices doing it at home with spray cans. I suggest you get a
copy.



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On 19/09/2017 17:37, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 19/09/17 14:47, john west wrote:
Thanks to SWMBO i now have a nasty scratch on my old Toyota Corolla
bumper, right down to the freshly 'grooved' black plastic underneath.
As a complete beginner i typed in: 'paint car UK' in YouTube, and get
over a million results.
As a beginner, i will have to follow instructions slavishly, so really
need to find the right site, from somebody who really knows what they
are doing.
Would anyone 'in-the-know' be able to recommend a particular YouTube
site, showing spraying for a beginner please?
Thanks.
There must be hundreds, but if it is a bumper, easiest would be to
remove it, sand down old paint, and use som form of plastic putty to
fill in the scratch and then spray primer/undercaota/top coat on itr or
take it at that point to a spray painter who will do it for a few
tenners.

Must be many many years since you paid for spraying.


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Indeed, earlier this year, a minor scratch (literally only a paint
repair) on the door of a Honda CRV in silver, paying cash with no
receipt: 500 quid

Mind you it is now back to perfect again, and even knowing where the
mark was, it is not possible to find it again.

On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 19:14:36 +0100, MrCheerful wrote:


Mind you it is now back to perfect again, and even knowing where the
mark was, it is not possible to find it again.

Well, that is precisely how it should be if it's been done to a
professional standard, Mr. C.



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Indeed, earlier this year, a minor scratch (literally only a paint
repair) on the door of a Honda CRV in silver, paying cash with no
receipt: 500 quid

Mind you it is now back to perfect again, and even knowing where the
mark was, it is not possible to find it again.

Last work I had done was the bonnet respray on an E39 - the clear coat had
started to lift. So no actual repairs needed.

£350. A few years ago. You'd not even buy the paint for a few tenners.

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On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 10:04:55 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:


£350. A few years ago. You'd not even buy the paint for a few tenners.

For once, Dave makes a good point he the cost of compliance with EU
'green' directives has more than quadrupled the cost of vehicle enamel in
real terms - as it has much else.


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On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 15:28:00 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
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On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 10:04:55 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:


£350. A few years ago. You'd not even buy the paint for a few tenners.

For once, Dave makes a good point he the cost of compliance with EU
'green' directives has more than quadrupled the cost of vehicle enamel in
real terms - as it has much else.

As the OP wanted Black they won't apply.

G.Harman

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On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 10:04:55 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:


£350. A few years ago. You'd not even buy the paint for a few tenners.

For once, Dave makes a good point he the cost of compliance with EU
'green' directives has more than quadrupled the cost of vehicle enamel in
real terms - as it has much else.

Trust you to try and bring the EU into it.

Good quality car paint has never been cheap. And just what do you mean by
enamel?

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On 19/09/2017 14:47, john west wrote:
Thanks to SWMBO i now have a nasty scratch on my old Toyota Corolla
bumper, right down to the freshly 'grooved' black plastic underneath.
As a complete beginner i typed in: 'paint car UK' in YouTube, and get
over a million results.
As a beginner, i will have to follow instructions slavishly, so really
need to find the right site, from somebody who really knows what they
are doing.
Would anyone 'in-the-know' be able to recommend a particular YouTube
site, showing spraying for a beginner please?
Thanks.

Depending on the severity of the scratch, it might be worth considering
a chipex kit. You get a perfect colour match and if you are prepared to
put a bit of (unskilled) effort in the finish is perfect.

http://www.chipex.co.uk/

About 6 months after getting my new new car, some skateboarding kids ran
into the (parked) car in the road and put a 3 inch scratch in the
paintwork by the o/s headlight. I got a chipex kit and spent a bit of
time working on it and you would nebver know it had been damaged.
You get comprehensive instructions in the kit as well as everything you
need including rubber gloves!.
I still have the kit 3 years later and have used it to repair paint
chips and other scratches, always getting perfect results.

Andy

On 21/09/2017 09:14, Andy Bennet wrote:
On 19/09/2017 14:47, john west wrote:
Thanks to SWMBO i now have a nasty scratch on my old Toyota Corolla
bumper, right down to the freshly 'grooved' black plastic underneath.
As a complete beginner i typed in: 'paint car UK' in YouTube, and get
over a millionÂ* results.
As a beginner, i will have to follow instructions slavishly, so really
need to find the right site, from somebody who really knows what they
are doing.
Would anyone 'in-the-know' be able to recommend a particular YouTube
site, showing spraying for a beginner please?
Thanks.

Depending on the severity of the scratch, it might be worth considering
a chipex kit. You get a perfect colour match and if you are prepared to
put a bit of (unskilled) effort in the finish is perfect.

http://www.chipex.co.uk/

About 6 months after getting my new new car, some skateboarding kids ran
into the (parked) car in the road and put a 3 inch scratch in the
paintwork by the o/s headlight. I got a chipex kit and spent a bit of
time working on it and you would nebver know it had been damaged.
You get comprehensive instructions in the kit as well as everything you
need including rubber gloves!.
I still have the kit 3 years later and have used it to repair paint
chips and other scratches, always getting perfect results.

How much does it cost? I've always done stone chips and minor scratches
with the manufacturers paint (and a decent fine brush or cocktail stick
to apply it). Not the useless broomstick they provide on the cap.

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On 21/09/2017 10:11, Martin Brown wrote:
On 21/09/2017 09:14, Andy Bennet wrote:
On 19/09/2017 14:47, john west wrote:
Thanks to SWMBO i now have a nasty scratch on my old Toyota Corolla
bumper, right down to the freshly 'grooved' black plastic underneath.
As a complete beginner i typed in: 'paint car UK' in YouTube, and get
over a million results.
As a beginner, i will have to follow instructions slavishly, so really
need to find the right site, from somebody who really knows what they
are doing.
Would anyone 'in-the-know' be able to recommend a particular YouTube
site, showing spraying for a beginner please?
Thanks.

Depending on the severity of the scratch, it might be worth
considering a chipex kit. You get a perfect colour match and if you
are prepared to put a bit of (unskilled) effort in the finish is perfect.

http://www.chipex.co.uk/

About 6 months after getting my new new car, some skateboarding kids
ran into the (parked) car in the road and put a 3 inch scratch in the
paintwork by the o/s headlight. I got a chipex kit and spent a bit of
time working on it and you would nebver know it had been damaged.
You get comprehensive instructions in the kit as well as everything
you need including rubber gloves!.
I still have the kit 3 years later and have used it to repair paint
chips and other scratches, always getting perfect results.

How much does it cost? I've always done stone chips and minor scratches
with the manufacturers paint (and a decent fine brush or cocktail stick
to apply it). Not the useless broomstick they provide on the cap.


3 sizes of kit from £30 to £38 depending on how much stuff you want

http://www.chipex.co.uk/kit/select/

It uses the splodge, wipe and lightly buff painting technique, it only
takes 5 mins or so for the paint to harden so ideal for amateurs like me

Andy

On 19/09/2017 14:47, john west wrote:
Thanks to SWMBO i now have a nasty scratch on my old Toyota Corolla
bumper, right down to the freshly 'grooved' black plastic underneath.
As a complete beginner i typed in: 'paint car UK' in YouTube, and get
over a millionÂ* results.
As a beginner, i will have to follow instructions slavishly, so really
need to find the right site, from somebody who really knows what they
are doing.
Would anyone 'in-the-know' be able to recommend a particular YouTube
site, showing spraying for a beginner please?
Thanks.
Dont even try if you value the appearance of the car. Look up a local
mobile "Scratch doctor" service. I've used one, it wasnt that expensive
and gave a virtually invisible repair.

Mike

In article ,
Muddymike wrote:
On 19/09/2017 14:47, john west wrote:
Thanks to SWMBO i now have a nasty scratch on my old Toyota Corolla
bumper, right down to the freshly 'grooved' black plastic underneath.
As a complete beginner i typed in: 'paint car UK' in YouTube, and get
over a million results.
As a beginner, i will have to follow instructions slavishly, so really
need to find the right site, from somebody who really knows what they
are doing.
Would anyone 'in-the-know' be able to recommend a particular YouTube
site, showing spraying for a beginner please?
Thanks.
Dont even try if you value the appearance of the car. Look up a local
mobile "Scratch doctor" service. I've used one, it wasnt that expensive
and gave a virtually invisible repair.

there is also "Chips Away" which I've used on my car.

--
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On 19/09/2017 17:37, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 19/09/17 14:47, john west wrote:
Thanks to SWMBO i now have a nasty scratch on my old Toyota Corolla
bumper, right down to the freshly 'grooved' black plastic underneath.
As a complete beginner i typed in: 'paint car UK' in YouTube, and get
over a million results.
As a beginner, i will have to follow instructions slavishly, so really
need to find the right site, from somebody who really knows what they
are doing.
Would anyone 'in-the-know' be able to recommend a particular YouTube
site, showing spraying for a beginner please?
Thanks.
There must be hundreds, but if it is a bumper, easiest would be to
remove it, sand down old paint, and use som form of plastic putty to
fill in the scratch and then spray primer/undercaota/top coat on itr or
take it at that point to a spray painter who will do it for a few
tenners.

Must be many many years since you paid for spraying.



Depends on the quality you want.

It was only this year that I sent the old pug bus (a red 307) down to
the local garage for a paint job after the fence post attacked it whilst
she was reversing into the drive.

£60 for the repair.

It's a £600 car and so I really do not care. An insurance co would have
written it off.


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In article ,
ARW wrote:
Must be many many years since you paid for spraying.



Depends on the quality you want.

A repair it isn't obvious is a repair?

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On 22/09/2017 00:13, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
ARW wrote:
Must be many many years since you paid for spraying.



Depends on the quality you want.

A repair it isn't obvious is a repair?

Which depends on the level of scrutiny required to discern it is a repair?

Which then brings us back to 'quality'.

Dave Plowman wrote:

ARW wrote:

Depends on the quality you want.

A repair it isn't obvious is a repair?

Judging by the chipex demo video, it wouldn't qualify then

https://youtu.be/NrBKclrwXLU?t=1m53s

On 22/09/2017 09:41, Andy Burns wrote:
Dave Plowman wrote:

ARW wrote:

Depends on the quality you want.

A repair it isn't obvious is a repair?

Judging by the chipex demo video, it wouldn't qualify then

https://youtu.be/NrBKclrwXLU?t=1m53s

Metallics are notoriously tricky. But I don't see any advantage of using
that over the base coat & clear overlacquer that the manufacturers
provide in their typical touchup stick package. The problem is mainly
the chunky brush provided which is way too large for most scratches.

If you are really that sensitive to getting an as new appearance then
you have to disguise the paint transition along some bend in the
metalwork so that the eye cannot easily compare colours.

I'm content to merely stop paint chips from rotting the bonnet which
now since it is plastic composite is largely irrelevant.

The small kit that Aldi/Lidl do from time to time isn't bad for taking
out minor cosmetic scratches and blending in minor repairs. I have never
had much luck with the supposed solar UV cured resin scratch repair
stick. It failed to cure. Maybe not enough sun up north or something.

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On 22/09/2017 09:41, Andy Burns wrote:
Dave Plowman wrote:

ARW wrote:

Depends on the quality you want.

A repair it isn't obvious is a repair?

Judging by the chipex demo video, it wouldn't qualify then

https://youtu.be/NrBKclrwXLU?t=1m53s

****ing hell.

That's a new use of the words "Substantial improvement".


As for the video, you could just as easily stick your knob into a tin of
silver paint and then wipe your bellend down the scratch on the bumper
to get similar results.

I can tell that the gfs car has had a cheap paint job done down at the
local garage. But WTF it's a £600 car that will no doubt hit another
fence, hospital or car.



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On 22/09/2017 00:13, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
ARW wrote:
Must be many many years since you paid for spraying.



Depends on the quality you want.

A repair it isn't obvious is a repair?

Which depends on the level of scrutiny required to discern it is a repair?

Which then brings us back to 'quality'.

If I had an old banger where the quality of the repair didn't matter, I'd
leave the dent as is. Unless actually dangerous. Nothing looks worse (to
me) than a poor repair where the paint or whatever doesn't match. YMMV.

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On 22/09/2017 13:26, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Fredxxx wrote:
On 22/09/2017 00:13, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
ARW wrote:
Must be many many years since you paid for spraying.



Depends on the quality you want.

A repair it isn't obvious is a repair?

Which depends on the level of scrutiny required to discern it is a repair?

Which then brings us back to 'quality'.

If I had an old banger where the quality of the repair didn't matter, I'd
leave the dent as is. Unless actually dangerous. Nothing looks worse (to
me) than a poor repair where the paint or whatever doesn't match. YMMV.

Or do what WTWNFI and I used to do when we ran old bangers. Get the
4inch brush out and re-paint the whole car in whatever gloss was
knocking around.

Mike

On 22/09/2017 14:37, Muddymike wrote:
On 22/09/2017 13:26, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Â*Â*Â* Fredxxx wrote:
On 22/09/2017 00:13, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Â*Â*Â*Â* ARW wrote:
Must be many many years since you paid for spraying.



Depends on the quality you want.

A repair it isn't obvious is a repair?

Which depends on the level of scrutiny required to discern it is a
repair?

Which then brings us back to 'quality'.

If I had an old banger where the quality of the repair didn't matter, I'd
leave the dent as is. Unless actually dangerous. Nothing looks worse (to
me) than a poor repair where the paint or whatever doesn't match. YMMV.

Or do what WTWNFI and I used to do when we ran old bangers. Get the
4inch brush out and re-paint the whole car in whatever gloss was
knocking around.

Mike

you get a nicer finish with a gloss roller.

In article ,
Muddymike wrote:
If I had an old banger where the quality of the repair didn't matter,
I'd leave the dent as is. Unless actually dangerous. Nothing looks
worse (to me) than a poor repair where the paint or whatever doesn't
match. YMMV.

Or do what WTWNFI and I used to do when we ran old bangers. Get the
4inch brush out and re-paint the whole car in whatever gloss was
knocking around.

When I were a kid, a local house painter had painted his Ford van black
with Dulux house paint. Looked excellent.

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On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 00:01:06 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Trust you to try and bring the EU into it.

Well, if we *ever* get to leave it, I won't need to any more.


Good quality car paint has never been cheap. And just what do you mean
by enamel?

I recall back in the day (70s) there was pretty much only two choices:
cellulose or 2-pack (a very nasty cyanide based paint made by Parsons).
The best cellulose IMHO was manufactured by Glasurit (you may remember
the tins all came with their parrot logo on the front) and it was only
about a fiver a litre at the time. Very reasonable indeed.



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On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 14:37:36 +0100, Muddymike wrote:


Or do what WTWNFI and I used to do when we ran old bangers. Get the
4inch brush out and re-paint the whole car in whatever gloss was
knocking around.

Mike

Blimey, that must have looked a sight!



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On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 17:31:37 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

When I were a kid, a local house painter had painted his Ford van black
with Dulux house paint. Looked excellent.

Only because you were a kid at the time, I suspect. If you could go back
in time and view it again it would look a right mess.



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On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 14:37:36 +0100, Muddymike wrote:


Or do what WTWNFI and I used to do when we ran old bangers. Get the
4inch brush out and re-paint the whole car in whatever gloss was
knocking around.

Mike

Blimey, that must have looked a sight!

A friend of mine used Valspar on his vehicle.

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On 22/09/2017 17:55, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 00:01:06 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Trust you to try and bring the EU into it.

Well, if we *ever* get to leave it, I won't need to any more.


Good quality car paint has never been cheap. And just what do you mean
by enamel?

I recall back in the day (70s) there was pretty much only two choices:
cellulose or 2-pack (a very nasty cyanide based paint made by Parsons).
The best cellulose IMHO was manufactured by Glasurit (you may remember
the tins all came with their parrot logo on the front) and it was only
about a fiver a litre at the time. Very reasonable indeed.




I had a Transit for many years. I sprayed it occasionally
using a mixture of paraffin and white gloss household paint.

Used to get a lovely tough finish to it.

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Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 00:01:06 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Trust you to try and bring the EU into it.

Well, if we *ever* get to leave it, I won't need to any more.

Oddly, everyone in charge of this country seems to realise what a stupid
idea it is.


Good quality car paint has never been cheap. And just what do you mean
by enamel?

I recall back in the day (70s) there was pretty much only two choices:
cellulose or 2-pack (a very nasty cyanide based paint made by Parsons).
The best cellulose IMHO was manufactured by Glasurit (you may remember
the tins all came with their parrot logo on the front) and it was only
about a fiver a litre at the time. Very reasonable indeed.

Metallic paints were pretty rare in the '70s. And think you'd find they
cost rather more than a fiver a litre.

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Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 17:31:37 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

When I were a kid, a local house painter had painted his Ford van black
with Dulux house paint. Looked excellent.

Only because you were a kid at the time, I suspect. If you could go back
in time and view it again it would look a right mess.

Not so. Coach painting was done using a brush and paints not that much
different from house paint. All down to the skill of the painter.

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On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 00:05:42 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Not so. Coach painting was done using a brush and paints not that much
different from house paint. All down to the skill of the painter.

Well, an experienced painter *could* get a perfect finish using a high
quality brush and specifically brush enamel which did exist for cars back
then, but it would take a considerable amount of hard work afterwards
when dry: flat off with wet & soapy wet'n'dry at 700-800 grit, then again
at 1000-1200, then buffing with something like Fireclay (sp?) then T-Cut
then a final waxing. Lot of graft and time involved. And that only works
with solid colours, not metallics. Thank god for sprayguns!



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Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 00:05:42 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Not so. Coach painting was done using a brush and paints not that much
different from house paint. All down to the skill of the painter.

Well, an experienced painter *could* get a perfect finish using a high
quality brush and specifically brush enamel which did exist for cars
back then, but it would take a considerable amount of hard work
afterwards when dry: flat off with wet & soapy wet'n'dry at 700-800
grit, then again at 1000-1200, then buffing with something like
Fireclay (sp?) then T-Cut then a final waxing. Lot of graft and time
involved. And that only works with solid colours, not metallics. Thank
god for sprayguns!

Oh indeed. But when I were a lad, there were no low priced domestic spray
sets. Or rather that I knew about.

Not sure you can cut back and polish an ordinary oil based paint in the
same way as you can with cellulose.

As it happens, I've had the old Rover resprayed. It's plain black. They
used a water based paint which was baked on and a clear coat. The original
paint had gone dull - and although a compound and polish made it look OK
again it very soon went dull again.

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