Do the people canvassing for donors to charities get paid at least minimum wages?

"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message
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Do the people canvassing for donors to charities get paid at least minimum
wages?

Regretfully, you're under-qualified for the position.

There are collectors and there are the paid ones
Having some knowledge of collecting for a London Blindness charity who do
not actively try to get folk to sign away their dosh I can tell you nobody
gets paid other than the normal wages if they are employed or in the case of
volunteers zilch nil nuothing.
I too get ****ed off with what I call corporate collectors who seem to get
all the prime sites and yet take the ****. sorry but thats how I feel.
Brian

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"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message
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Do the people canvassing for donors to charities get paid at least minimum
wages?

Brian Gaff explained :
I too get ****ed off with what I call corporate collectors who seem to get
all the prime sites and yet take the ****. sorry but thats how I feel.

Chuggers? We get gangs of them knocking on doors. I just send them on
their way, or if there is time, let the dogs out.

On 5/20/2017 8:34 AM, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Brian Gaff explained :
I too get ****ed off with what I call corporate collectors who seem
to get all the prime sites and yet take the ****. sorry but thats how
I feel.

Chuggers? We get gangs of them knocking on doors. I just send them on
their way, or if there is time, let the dogs out.

:-)

My greyhounds, unfortunately, would just lick them to death. That's if
they could be bothered to get up.

On Saturday, 20 May 2017 07:48:47 UTC+1, Brian Gaff wrote:
There are collectors and there are the paid ones
Having some knowledge of collecting for a London Blindness charity who do
not actively try to get folk to sign away their dosh I can tell you nobody
gets paid other than the normal wages if they are employed or in the case of
volunteers zilch nil nuothing.
I too get ****ed off with what I call corporate collectors who seem to get
all the prime sites and yet take the ****. sorry but thats how I feel.
Brian

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"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message
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Do the people canvassing for donors to charities get paid at least minimum
wages?

I have the ideal rejoinder for them:

"How much does the managing director get paid?"

It is generally more than 3 or 4 times the average income for tradesmen.
The thing is once you earn enough to feed clothe and educate your family with the occasional holiday there is no need for anyone in a charity to earn buckets of cash is there?

But if there are people working for a charity who are in need of charity to start with it is all a bit top heavy.

I have usually found that the collectors have a prepared answer for my question which makes their plight all the more revolting. But if they have worked an answer out ready to say without thinking it means they have already rationalised themselves into a corner.

So my response would be that and charity that would persuade them that their plight is reasonable I would just ask next if such a corrupt organisation is being run by the Clintons or the Blairs.

For I would never feel guilty about not donating to a pyramid fund. But the point is how is it possible to get dupes so readily and is it legal?
If so why?

I too get ****ed off with what I call corporate collectors who seem to get
all the prime sites and yet take the ****. sorry but thats how I feel.
Brian

I tell those to **** off ......quite enjoy it .......

Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
I too get ****ed off with what I call corporate collectors who seem
to get all the prime sites and yet take the ****. sorry but thats
how I feel. Brian

I tell those to **** off ......quite enjoy it .......

I use the "unwanted clothing" bags that these arseholes shove through my
letter box as bin liners.
I once tried to engage one of these ****s in conversation, he could not
speak English. Probably a Polack.

On 20/05/2017 05:33, Weatherlawyer wrote:
Do the people canvassing for donors to charities get paid at least minimum wages?



They, and their employers, get to keep all the money they collect.
No reputable charity cold collects at your doorstep.

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On 20/05/17 09:23, alan_m wrote:
On 20/05/2017 05:33, Weatherlawyer wrote:
Do the people canvassing for donors to charities get paid at least
minimum wages?



They, and their employers, get to keep all the money they collect.
No reputable charity cold collects at your doorstep.

Are there any reputable charities anymore?


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On 20/05/2017 09:25, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 20/05/17 09:23, alan_m wrote:
On 20/05/2017 05:33, Weatherlawyer wrote:
Do the people canvassing for donors to charities get paid at least
minimum wages?



They, and their employers, get to keep all the money they collect.
No reputable charity cold collects at your doorstep.

Are there any reputable charities anymore?



Very few especially these days where a mere £3 a month can save the
world ... but only after the £millions spent on advertising and
administration have been paid.

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On 20/05/2017 09:34, alan_m wrote:
On 20/05/2017 09:25, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 20/05/17 09:23, alan_m wrote:
On 20/05/2017 05:33, Weatherlawyer wrote:
Do the people canvassing for donors to charities get paid at least
minimum wages?



They, and their employers, get to keep all the money they collect.
No reputable charity cold collects at your doorstep.

Are there any reputable charities anymore?



Very few especially these days where a mere £3 a month can save the
world ... but only after the £millions spent on advertising and
administration have been paid.

Don't forget the cost all of those free biros that mostly end up in the
bin and adding to landfill.

On Sat, 20 May 2017 09:46:20 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 20/05/2017 09:34, alan_m wrote:
On 20/05/2017 09:25, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 20/05/17 09:23, alan_m wrote:
On 20/05/2017 05:33, Weatherlawyer wrote:
Do the people canvassing for donors to charities get paid at least
minimum wages?

They, and their employers, get to keep all the money they collect.
No reputable charity cold collects at your doorstep.

Really? I get all the major well known respected ones round here begging for money. Red Cross, that sort of thing.

Are there any reputable charities anymore?

Very few especially these days where a mere £3 a month can save the
world ... but only after the £millions spent on advertising and
administration have been paid.

Don't forget the cost all of those free biros that mostly end up in the
bin and adding to landfill.

Why would they? Nobody is stupid enough not to use them first.

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On Sat, 20 May 2017 09:46:20 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 20/05/2017 09:34, alan_m wrote:
On 20/05/2017 09:25, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 20/05/17 09:23, alan_m wrote:
On 20/05/2017 05:33, Weatherlawyer wrote:
Do the people canvassing for donors to charities get paid at least
minimum wages?



They, and their employers, get to keep all the money they collect.
No reputable charity cold collects at your doorstep.

Are there any reputable charities anymore?



Very few especially these days where a mere £3 a month can save the
world ... but only after the £millions spent on advertising and
administration have been paid.

Don't forget the cost all of those free biros that mostly end up in the
bin and adding to landfill.

This stops them and salesmen and religious nuts:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/tlb2gay2pb...esmen.jpg?dl=0

(Despite the address containing "gay turd", that's not what it is, it's random letters created by the server!)

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On Saturday, 20 May 2017 09:34:45 UTC+1, alan_m wrote:
Very few especially these days where a mere £3 a month can save the
world ... but only after the £millions spent on advertising and
administration have been paid.

Of course the £millions isn't spent by the charity.

It's spent by the arm's-length fundraising company or trading subsidiary.

99% of the thruppence that the charity actually receives is genuinely spent on saving the world.

It's a bit like Uber's and Starbucks' UK tax returns, but possibly not as honest.

Owain

alan_m wrote on 20/05/2017 :
They, and their employers, get to keep all the money they collect.
No reputable charity cold collects at your doorstep.

As I understand it, not quite true...

Idea is to get you signed up to a DD regular payment deal. The chugger
company gets to keep all or a proportion of the first several payments,
then the charity get the rest. It seems charities do benefit, better
than nothing, but better would be if all the monies went direct to the
charity - as a lot of people think/ would expect.

The real winner in all of this is the chuggers and the company
employing them. We get inundated with them going door to door and in
the local shopping street too. So many that I put a notice on our gate
- 'NO CHUGGERS, DOGS ARE LOOSE' - That has kept them mostly away from
the front door for several years.

On 20/05/2017 15:14, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
alan_m wrote on 20/05/2017 :
They, and their employers, get to keep all the money they collect.
No reputable charity cold collects at your doorstep.

As I understand it, not quite true...

Idea is to get you signed up to a DD regular payment deal. The chugger
company gets to keep all or a proportion of the first several payments,
then the charity get the rest.

This is what the chuggers that turn up on the doorstep would have you
believe! They want your details so they can bombard you with phone
calls begging for yet more money.

It seems charities do benefit, better
than nothing,

Any charity that preys on the weak, vulnerable and stupid in society by
employing these chugging methods, either directly or via a third party,
is not a reputable charity.

By saying that charities get _SOME_ of the money is only legitimating
mugging.





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On Saturday, 20 May 2017 05:33:24 UTC+1, Weatherlawyer wrote:
Do the people canvassing for donors to charities get paid at least minimum wages?

None of the answers so far are correct.

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On Saturday, 20 May 2017 05:33:24 UTC+1, Weatherlawyer wrote:
Do the people canvassing for donors to charities get paid at least minimum
wages?

None of the answers so far are correct.

Judging by the enthusiasm and the pressure they use to try to sign you
up, they are on bonuses or a share of the profits. I don't know how
they sleep at night, knowing they have pressurised gullible people to
sign up to they deal - it is just so dishonest.

On 20/05/17 11:17, wrote:
On Saturday, 20 May 2017 05:33:24 UTC+1, Weatherlawyer wrote:
Do the people canvassing for donors to charities get paid at least minimum wages?

None of the answers so far are correct.

what a fatuous and useless comment

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On Saturday, 20 May 2017 19:28:36 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 20/05/17 11:17, tabbypurr wrote:
On Saturday, 20 May 2017 05:33:24 UTC+1, Weatherlawyer wrote:
Do the people canvassing for donors to charities get paid at least minimum wages?

None of the answers so far are correct.

what a fatuous and useless comment

hardly. But yours is.