I need a box, clip shut that can contain a cuboid 70x40x20ish mm car keybob.

Can anyone think of a style of box that small and where I could buy one?


We can a real problem with the cars being left unlocked - or rather
locked, then unlocked by keys being squashed in a pocket or handbag.

I'm annoyed enough that I will 3D print one if it comes to it - but if
there's a box I could fit it in, not much bigger than the fob, and still
hang it off a key bunch, that would be great.

We don't even need the buttons - it's a proximity system and there's
buttons on the car door handles that open it.

But if I did, I'd drill 3 x 1/2" holes in so a finger could poke the
putton, but accidental presses would be unlikely.

On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 22:30:28 +0000, Tim Watts
wrote:

I need a box, clip shut that can contain a cuboid 70x40x20ish mm car keybob.

Can anyone think of a style of box that small and where I could buy one?


We can a real problem with the cars being left unlocked - or rather
locked, then unlocked by keys being squashed in a pocket or handbag.

I'm annoyed enough that I will 3D print one if it comes to it - but if
there's a box I could fit it in, not much bigger than the fob, and still
hang it off a key bunch, that would be great.

We don't even need the buttons - it's a proximity system and there's
buttons on the car door handles that open it.

But if I did, I'd drill 3 x 1/2" holes in so a finger could poke the
putton, but accidental presses would be unlikely.


It's not just me then!!!
The other "feature" (of my Skoda) is a long press of the unlock button
winds down all four windows by default, why this would be useful to
anyone escapes me, winding the up with the lock button is great, but
not down. Fortunately the feature can be switched off in the menu.




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%Profound_observation%

On 18/01/17 22:30, Tim Watts wrote:
I need a box, clip shut that can contain a cuboid 70x40x20ish mm car
keybob.

Can anyone think of a style of box that small and where I could buy one?


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-Ha...-/262466744840

80x40x20 in grey or black

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On 18/01/2017 22:30, Tim Watts wrote:
I need a box, clip shut that can contain a cuboid 70x40x20ish mm car
keybob.

Can anyone think of a style of box that small and where I could buy one?


We can a real problem with the cars being left unlocked - or rather
locked, then unlocked by keys being squashed in a pocket or handbag.

I'm annoyed enough that I will 3D print one if it comes to it - but if
there's a box I could fit it in, not much bigger than the fob, and still
hang it off a key bunch, that would be great.

We don't even need the buttons - it's a proximity system and there's
buttons on the car door handles that open it.

But if I did, I'd drill 3 x 1/2" holes in so a finger could poke the
putton, but accidental presses would be unlikely.

If you don't need the buttons then take the battery out.

The immobilizer/proximity stuff doesn't usually need the battery, only
the remote lock/unlock.

On 18/01/17 22:46, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
On 18/01/17 22:30, Tim Watts wrote:
I need a box, clip shut that can contain a cuboid 70x40x20ish mm car
keybob.

Can anyone think of a style of box that small and where I could buy one?


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-Ha...-/262466744840


80x40x20 in grey or black


Thank you! That is a good choice...

On 18/01/17 22:50, dennis@home wrote:
On 18/01/2017 22:30, Tim Watts wrote:
I need a box, clip shut that can contain a cuboid 70x40x20ish mm car
keybob.

Can anyone think of a style of box that small and where I could buy one?


We can a real problem with the cars being left unlocked - or rather
locked, then unlocked by keys being squashed in a pocket or handbag.

I'm annoyed enough that I will 3D print one if it comes to it - but if
there's a box I could fit it in, not much bigger than the fob, and still
hang it off a key bunch, that would be great.

We don't even need the buttons - it's a proximity system and there's
buttons on the car door handles that open it.

But if I did, I'd drill 3 x 1/2" holes in so a finger could poke the
putton, but accidental presses would be unlikely.

If you don't need the buttons then take the battery out.

The immobilizer/proximity stuff doesn't usually need the battery, only
the remote lock/unlock.

Nice thinking.

In this case I think it does use the battery as the "if the battery is
dead, use the manual key and holdthe fob to the ignition button"
suggests it needs power.

On 18/01/17 23:13, Tim Watts wrote:


80x40x20 in grey or black


Thank you! That is a good choice...

Might not be just realished, those are outside dimensions.

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On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 22:43:22 +0000, Graham.
wrote:


The other "feature" (of my Skoda) is a long press of the unlock button
winds down all four windows by default, why this would be useful to
anyone escapes me,

Same on the model car we have, windows down and if held further
sunroof opens to tilt position.

Find it very useful on a hot day to open the windows and roof from the
living room, Restaurant, Hotel window etc and let some of the heat
accumulated in the car to escape before we go out to it.

G.Harman

wrote in message
...
On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 22:43:22 +0000, Graham.
wrote:


The other "feature" (of my Skoda) is a long press of the unlock button
winds down all four windows by default, why this would be useful to
anyone escapes me,

Same on the model car we have, windows down and if held further
sunroof opens to tilt position.

Find it very useful on a hot day to open the windows and roof from the
living room, Restaurant, Hotel window etc and let some of the heat
accumulated in the car to escape before we go out to it.

So posh

On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 23:14:57 +0000, Tim Watts
wrote:

On 18/01/17 22:50, dennis@home wrote:
On 18/01/2017 22:30, Tim Watts wrote:
I need a box, clip shut that can contain a cuboid 70x40x20ish mm car
keybob.

Can anyone think of a style of box that small and where I could buy one?


We can a real problem with the cars being left unlocked - or rather
locked, then unlocked by keys being squashed in a pocket or handbag.

I'm annoyed enough that I will 3D print one if it comes to it - but if
there's a box I could fit it in, not much bigger than the fob, and still
hang it off a key bunch, that would be great.

We don't even need the buttons - it's a proximity system and there's
buttons on the car door handles that open it.

But if I did, I'd drill 3 x 1/2" holes in so a finger could poke the
putton, but accidental presses would be unlikely.

If you don't need the buttons then take the battery out.

The immobilizer/proximity stuff doesn't usually need the battery, only
the remote lock/unlock.

Nice thinking.

In this case I think it does use the battery as the "if the battery is
dead, use the manual key and holdthe fob to the ignition button"
suggests it needs power.

Not to me it dosn't.


--

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%Profound_observation%

On 19/01/17 02:55, Graham. wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 23:14:57 +0000, Tim Watts
wrote:


In this case I think it does use the battery as the "if the battery is
dead, use the manual key and holdthe fob to the ignition button"
suggests it needs power.

Not to me it dosn't.



It literally shows having to touch the fob to the start button.

But I can certainly try removing the battery and see what gives...

On 19/01/2017 07:12, Tim Watts wrote:
On 19/01/17 02:55, Graham. wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 23:14:57 +0000, Tim Watts
wrote:


In this case I think it does use the battery as the "if the battery is
dead, use the manual key and holdthe fob to the ignition button"
suggests it needs power.

Not to me it dosn't.



It literally shows having to touch the fob to the start button.

But I can certainly try removing the battery and see what gives...
They generally don't need the battery for the immobiliser: there's an
RFID chip inside the key body.

Chris Bartram wrote:
On 19/01/2017 07:12, Tim Watts wrote:
On 19/01/17 02:55, Graham. wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 23:14:57 +0000, Tim Watts
wrote:


In this case I think it does use the battery as the "if the battery is
dead, use the manual key and holdthe fob to the ignition button"
suggests it needs power.

Not to me it dosn't.



It literally shows having to touch the fob to the start button.

But I can certainly try removing the battery and see what gives...
They generally don't need the battery for the immobiliser: there's an
RFID chip inside the key body.


If it's like my car though, it'll flag up an irritating "Key fob battery
low" alert every time you start the engine. You then have to faff about to
acknowledge and hide the warning.

A more elegant solution might be to buy a key fob soft cover (see
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/112220554055 for an example) and then slide a
piece of stiff but flexible material between the cover and the buttons. A
bit cut out of a plastic bottle say.

Tim
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On 18/01/2017 22:43, Graham. wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 22:30:28 +0000, Tim Watts
wrote:

I need a box, clip shut that can contain a cuboid 70x40x20ish mm car keybob.

Can anyone think of a style of box that small and where I could buy one?

Look around for smallest toy Xmas lights packaging in the sales and you
might get something in that sort of size range or as the smallest of a
Russian doll style nested set of food storage containers.

We can a real problem with the cars being left unlocked - or rather
locked, then unlocked by keys being squashed in a pocket or handbag.

Touch wood never happened to me. Maybe the handbag or pocket needs a
clear out to remove all the junk that pressed the unlock button?

I'm annoyed enough that I will 3D print one if it comes to it - but if
there's a box I could fit it in, not much bigger than the fob, and still
hang it off a key bunch, that would be great.

We don't even need the buttons - it's a proximity system and there's
buttons on the car door handles that open it.

But if I did, I'd drill 3 x 1/2" holes in so a finger could poke the
putton, but accidental presses would be unlikely.


It's not just me then!!!
The other "feature" (of my Skoda) is a long press of the unlock button
winds down all four windows by default, why this would be useful to
anyone escapes me, winding the up with the lock button is great, but
not down. Fortunately the feature can be switched off in the menu.

Winding all the windows down as you approach the car is useful on those
rare hot sunny summer days when the steering wheel is too hot to touch.
I generally try to park in the shade though.

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Martin Brown

On 19/01/17 07:50, Chris Bartram wrote:
On 19/01/2017 07:12, Tim Watts wrote:
On 19/01/17 02:55, Graham. wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 23:14:57 +0000, Tim Watts
wrote:


In this case I think it does use the battery as the "if the battery is
dead, use the manual key and holdthe fob to the ignition button"
suggests it needs power.

Not to me it dosn't.



It literally shows having to touch the fob to the start button.

But I can certainly try removing the battery and see what gives...
They generally don't need the battery for the immobiliser: there's an
RFID chip inside the key body.

It will for the unlocking - and on this car, the key is not inserted
into a slot in the dash. It merely has to be "inside the car". I reckon
it needs a battery to work over a 2m range.

On 19/01/17 08:03, Tim+ wrote:
Chris Bartram wrote:
On 19/01/2017 07:12, Tim Watts wrote:
On 19/01/17 02:55, Graham. wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 23:14:57 +0000, Tim Watts
wrote:


In this case I think it does use the battery as the "if the battery is
dead, use the manual key and holdthe fob to the ignition button"
suggests it needs power.

Not to me it dosn't.



It literally shows having to touch the fob to the start button.

But I can certainly try removing the battery and see what gives...
They generally don't need the battery for the immobiliser: there's an
RFID chip inside the key body.


If it's like my car though, it'll flag up an irritating "Key fob battery
low" alert every time you start the engine. You then have to faff about to
acknowledge and hide the warning.

A more elegant solution might be to buy a key fob soft cover (see
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/112220554055 for an example) and then slide a
piece of stiff but flexible material between the cover and the buttons. A
bit cut out of a plastic bottle say.

Tim


That's one idea.

Having been all over google, the nearest thing I can find is a leather
wallet for a keyfob that might prevent activation.

All the sleeves and covers are designed to be operated through (so are
soft).

I realised this morning this is a perfect use of either 3D printing or
(easier to design) a box made out of laser cut laminated acrylic sheets
(like the RPi cases).

wrote in message
...
On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 22:43:22 +0000, Graham.
wrote:


The other "feature" (of my Skoda) is a long press of the unlock button
winds down all four windows by default, why this would be useful to
anyone escapes me,

Same on the model car we have, windows down and if held further
sunroof opens to tilt position.

Find it very useful on a hot day to open the windows and roof from the
living room, Restaurant, Hotel window etc and let some of the heat
accumulated in the car to escape before we go out to it.

provide it's still there by then, of course

tim

In article ,
Tim Watts wrote:
I need a box, clip shut that can contain a cuboid 70x40x20ish mm car keybob.

Can anyone think of a style of box that small and where I could buy one?

Thing I can think of that I have here is a foam lined strong plastic box
some ICs came in. Designed to withstand being posted with no additional
protection.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ,
Tim Watts wrote:
I need a box, clip shut that can contain a cuboid 70x40x20ish mm car
keybob.

Is this for one of those partner swapping parties where the car keys go in
a bowl? And you don't want anyone to know you drive a Dacia? ;-)

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On 19/01/17 09:40, Tim Watts wrote:
On 19/01/17 08:03, Tim+ wrote:
Chris Bartram wrote:
On 19/01/2017 07:12, Tim Watts wrote:
On 19/01/17 02:55, Graham. wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 23:14:57 +0000, Tim Watts
wrote:


In this case I think it does use the battery as the "if the
battery is
dead, use the manual key and holdthe fob to the ignition button"
suggests it needs power.

Not to me it dosn't.



It literally shows having to touch the fob to the start button.

But I can certainly try removing the battery and see what gives...
They generally don't need the battery for the immobiliser: there's an
RFID chip inside the key body.


If it's like my car though, it'll flag up an irritating "Key fob battery
low" alert every time you start the engine. You then have to faff
about to
acknowledge and hide the warning.

A more elegant solution might be to buy a key fob soft cover (see
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/112220554055 for an example) and then slide a
piece of stiff but flexible material between the cover and the buttons. A
bit cut out of a plastic bottle say.

Tim


That's one idea.

Having been all over google, the nearest thing I can find is a leather
wallet for a keyfob that might prevent activation.

All the sleeves and covers are designed to be operated through (so are
soft).

I realised this morning this is a perfect use of either 3D printing or
(easier to design) a box made out of laser cut laminated acrylic sheets
(like the RPi cases).

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/351173588054

--
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all government is basically a self-legalising protection racket, is
fully understood.

On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 09:38:31 +0000, Tim Watts wrote:

On 19/01/17 07:50, Chris Bartram wrote:
On 19/01/2017 07:12, Tim Watts wrote:
On 19/01/17 02:55, Graham. wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 23:14:57 +0000, Tim Watts
wrote:


In this case I think it does use the battery as the "if the battery
is dead, use the manual key and holdthe fob to the ignition button"
suggests it needs power.

Not to me it dosn't.



It literally shows having to touch the fob to the start button.

But I can certainly try removing the battery and see what gives...
They generally don't need the battery for the immobiliser: there's an
RFID chip inside the key body.

It will for the unlocking - and on this car, the key is not inserted
into a slot in the dash. It merely has to be "inside the car". I reckon
it needs a battery to work over a 2m range.

My car has a merely "inside the car" key. And an "outside the car within
1 metre" to unlock it.

However, if the battery goes:
a) small key hidden inside fob, and hidden keyhole in driver's door.
b) place fob (with RFID chip) in designated place in the car (bottom of
the console storage box) and the car will start.



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On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 09:40:32 +0000, Tim Watts wrote:

On 19/01/17 08:03, Tim+ wrote:
Chris Bartram wrote:
On 19/01/2017 07:12, Tim Watts wrote:
On 19/01/17 02:55, Graham. wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 23:14:57 +0000, Tim Watts
wrote:


In this case I think it does use the battery as the "if the battery
is dead, use the manual key and holdthe fob to the ignition button"
suggests it needs power.

Not to me it dosn't.



It literally shows having to touch the fob to the start button.

But I can certainly try removing the battery and see what gives...
They generally don't need the battery for the immobiliser: there's an
RFID chip inside the key body.


If it's like my car though, it'll flag up an irritating "Key fob
battery low" alert every time you start the engine. You then have to
faff about to acknowledge and hide the warning.

A more elegant solution might be to buy a key fob soft cover (see
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/112220554055 for an example) and then slide
a piece of stiff but flexible material between the cover and the
buttons. A bit cut out of a plastic bottle say.

Tim


That's one idea.

Having been all over google, the nearest thing I can find is a leather
wallet for a keyfob that might prevent activation.

All the sleeves and covers are designed to be operated through (so are
soft).

I realised this morning this is a perfect use of either 3D printing or
(easier to design) a box made out of laser cut laminated acrylic sheets
(like the RPi cases).

You could look at the range of Really Useful Boxes (go to *their*
website) but I don't think they have a suitable tiny one.



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On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 09:40:32 +0000, Tim Watts wrote:

Having been all over google, the nearest thing I can find is a leather
wallet for a keyfob that might prevent activation.

Look around where they sell little boxes and tins of mints, gum, and sweets --
you might get lucky...


Thomas Prufer

Thomas Prufer wrote:
Look around where they sell little boxes and tins of mints, gum, and
sweets -- you might get lucky...

A tin might not be the best idea for an RFID...
(unless you want to have to remove it each time)

Theo

On 19 Jan 2017 14:51:10 +0000 (GMT), Theo
wrote:

Thomas Prufer wrote:
Look around where they sell little boxes and tins of mints, gum, and
sweets -- you might get lucky...

A tin might not be the best idea for an RFID...
(unless you want to have to remove it each time)

Yeah, tinfoil hat, as it were.

There's some sort of gum that comes in a plastic flip-top thing in ISTR vaguely
the right size. And there was some sort of odd oval film from, er, the 90's?
APS? that may or may not have had suitable film canisters. I googled, gave up,
und gave some sort of vague handwaving advice instead ...

Thomas Prufer

Tim Watts wrote:
On 19/01/17 08:03, Tim+ wrote:
Chris Bartram wrote:
On 19/01/2017 07:12, Tim Watts wrote:
On 19/01/17 02:55, Graham. wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 23:14:57 +0000, Tim Watts
wrote:


In this case I think it does use the battery as the "if the battery is
dead, use the manual key and holdthe fob to the ignition button"
suggests it needs power.

Not to me it dosn't.



It literally shows having to touch the fob to the start button.

But I can certainly try removing the battery and see what gives...
They generally don't need the battery for the immobiliser: there's an
RFID chip inside the key body.


If it's like my car though, it'll flag up an irritating "Key fob battery
low" alert every time you start the engine. You then have to faff about to
acknowledge and hide the warning.

A more elegant solution might be to buy a key fob soft cover (see
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/112220554055 for an example) and then slide a
piece of stiff but flexible material between the cover and the buttons. A
bit cut out of a plastic bottle say.

Tim


That's one idea.

Having been all over google, the nearest thing I can find is a leather
wallet for a keyfob that might prevent activation.

All the sleeves and covers are designed to be operated through (so are
soft).

I realised this morning this is a perfect use of either 3D printing or
(easier to design) a box made out of laser cut laminated acrylic sheets
(like the RPi cases).


Seems to me my idea is *way* simpler and more elegant. ;-) Can't you buy a
soft cover on line for your model?

Tim

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On 1/19/2017 9:40 AM, Tim Watts wrote:
On 19/01/17 08:03, Tim+ wrote:
Chris Bartram wrote:
On 19/01/2017 07:12, Tim Watts wrote:
On 19/01/17 02:55, Graham. wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 23:14:57 +0000, Tim Watts
wrote:


In this case I think it does use the battery as the "if the
battery is
dead, use the manual key and holdthe fob to the ignition button"
suggests it needs power.

Not to me it dosn't.



It literally shows having to touch the fob to the start button.

But I can certainly try removing the battery and see what gives...
They generally don't need the battery for the immobiliser: there's an
RFID chip inside the key body.


If it's like my car though, it'll flag up an irritating "Key fob battery
low" alert every time you start the engine. You then have to faff
about to
acknowledge and hide the warning.

A more elegant solution might be to buy a key fob soft cover (see
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/112220554055 for an example) and then slide a
piece of stiff but flexible material between the cover and the buttons. A
bit cut out of a plastic bottle say.

Tim


That's one idea.

Having been all over google, the nearest thing I can find is a leather
wallet for a keyfob that might prevent activation.

All the sleeves and covers are designed to be operated through (so are
soft).

I realised this morning this is a perfect use of either 3D printing or
(easier to design) a box made out of laser cut laminated acrylic sheets
(like the RPi cases).

Might another option be to "build up" the key around the buttons so that
they become more recessed, so that they can't so easily be activated by
squashing?

I've not had this problem with my keys (Honda/Renault/Vauxhall) but in
each case the buttons are fairly well depressed before they activate.

On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 10:24:42 -0000, "tim..."
wrote:



wrote in message
.. .

Same on the model car we have, windows down and if held further
sunroof opens to tilt position.

Find it very useful on a hot day to open the windows and roof from the
living room, Restaurant, Hotel window etc and let some of the heat
accumulated in the car to escape before we go out to it.

provide it's still there by then, of course

tim

We are talking about the distance a car remote works so only a few
yards and I don't leave the windows open for hours just a few minutes
before we set off, any one wishing to take it would be doing so in
full view for most occasions and to drive it would need a means to
start it. If they were planning to remove it by other means such as
lifting it that the windows are open would be irrelevant.
Anyhow I don't go through life worrying that some car thief has made
their way to this quiet country village and is hanging around on the
off chance that I might decide to drive out at any random time and
lower the windows so they might be able to access the car and remove
it from our drive without a means to start the engine .

One of the advantages of not living in a populated or pikey area or
being paranoid.

G.Harman

On 18/01/17 22:30, Tim Watts wrote:
I need a box, clip shut that can contain a cuboid 70x40x20ish mm car
keybob.

Can anyone think of a style of box that small and where I could buy one?


We can a real problem with the cars being left unlocked - or rather
locked, then unlocked by keys being squashed in a pocket or handbag.

But doesn't the car lock itself again? If the doors aren't opened within
n minutes of the unlock signal mine relocks.




I'm annoyed enough that I will 3D print one if it comes to it - but if
there's a box I could fit it in, not much bigger than the fob, and still
hang it off a key bunch, that would be great.

We don't even need the buttons - it's a proximity system and there's
buttons on the car door handles that open it.

But if I did, I'd drill 3 x 1/2" holes in so a finger could poke the
putton, but accidental presses would be unlikely.


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On 19/01/17 20:35, DJC wrote:
On 18/01/17 22:30, Tim Watts wrote:
I need a box, clip shut that can contain a cuboid 70x40x20ish mm car
keybob.

Can anyone think of a style of box that small and where I could buy one?


We can a real problem with the cars being left unlocked - or rather
locked, then unlocked by keys being squashed in a pocket or handbag.

But doesn't the car lock itself again? If the doors aren't opened within
n minutes of the unlock signal mine relocks.




I'm annoyed enough that I will 3D print one if it comes to it - but if
there's a box I could fit it in, not much bigger than the fob, and still
hang it off a key bunch, that would be great.

We don't even need the buttons - it's a proximity system and there's
buttons on the car door handles that open it.

But if I did, I'd drill 3 x 1/2" holes in so a finger could poke the
putton, but accidental presses would be unlikely.



Probably - but the boot does not shut itself after it's popped open.
Whoever thought boot remote control was a good idea was a berk...

Also, as others have said, some cars (like mine) will drop all the
windows if you hold the unlock key long enough and they don't reset either.

On Wednesday, 18 January 2017 22:30:34 UTC, Tim Watts wrote:
I need a box, clip shut that can contain a cuboid 70x40x20ish mm car keybob.


Volvo leather key cases are 75x45x20 approx. and £6.50 from China

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Red-Genuin...AOSwcUBYGCS E

It may be possible to find a different car make with the same design.

On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 08:31:22 +0000, Martin Brown wrote:

I need a box, clip shut that can contain a cuboid 70x40x20ish mm
car
keybob.

Have a look at Maplin, clip shut rather than screws might be a show
stopper.

Maybe the handbag or pocket needs a clear out to remove all the junk
that pressed the unlock button?

Or wear loser trousers, tight underwear/trousers are not good for
your ba^Hits.

The only problem I have with the fob for my car is that the "panic"
button feels the same as the "unlock" or "boot". "Lock" is raised,
"lights" has a little pip.

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Cheers
Dave.

On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 18:40:21 +0000, wrote:

We are talking about the distance a car remote works so only a few
yards ...

Only a few yards? Mine'll do 50 at least, old car was much less maybe
10.

Anyhow I don't go through life worrying that some car thief has made
their way to this quiet country village and is hanging around on the
off chance that I might decide to drive out at any random time and
lower the windows so they might be able to access the car and remove
it from our drive without a means to start the engine .

Your thinking deliberate rather than opportunistic. These keyless
systems aren't as secure as one might imagine either but I think you
need the electronic version of "a big screwdriver".

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Cheers
Dave.

On Fri, 20 Jan 2017 09:46:03 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:

On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 18:40:21 +0000, wrote:

We are talking about the distance a car remote works so only a few
yards ...

Only a few yards? Mine'll do 50 at least, old car was much less maybe
10.

I think it does a lot more than 10 but from our lounge window to the
car is about that.

Anyhow I don't go through life worrying that some car thief has made
their way to this quiet country village and is hanging around on the
off chance that I might decide to drive out at any random time and
lower the windows so they might be able to access the car and remove
it from our drive without a means to start the engine .

Your thinking deliberate rather than opportunistic. These keyless
systems aren't as secure as one might imagine either but I think you
need the electronic version of "a big screwdriver".
If you have got that whether the windows are open or not is probably
irrelevant .
In fact seeing the windows go down would indicate the car is not
completely unattended and a potential witness and nowadays highly
likely to have a camera facility on them is about to appear.


To be honest the scenario I was describing where we lower the windows
a minute or two before setting off on a hot day and the poster
one of the Tims suggested it may no longer be there because it had
been nicked in those few minutes is what I was replying to . If
somebody really wanted the car in those circumstances they would have
a better chance of waiting for me to appear with the fob duffing me
up to get it and driving off having used the FOB in the normal way of
inserting in the slot. Of course they would have to fight me for it
and though a big bloke I'm realistic to know if they wielding a knife
or gun then over resistance might not be wise .

G.Harman

In article l.net,
Dave Liquorice wrote:
We are talking about the distance a car remote works so only a few
yards ...

Only a few yards? Mine'll do 50 at least, old car was much less maybe
10.

It seems very location dependant. My old car has an aftermarket system
with an external aerial. In the country it will work for better than 100
yards. In London, sometimes not close to the car every time.

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*When the chips are down, the buffalo is empty*

Dave Plowman London SW
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article l.net,
Dave Liquorice wrote:
We are talking about the distance a car remote works so only a few
yards ...

Only a few yards? Mine'll do 50 at least, old car was much less maybe
10.

It seems very location dependant. My old car has an aftermarket system
with an external aerial. In the country it will work for better than 100
yards. In London, sometimes not close to the car every time.


The London effect may be due to more RF around. A Rover I had would not
unlock when parked outside a shop with neon lighting. The shop owner
switched off the signs then all was well. Never parked close to that
shop again!

On Sat, 21 Jan 2017 11:10:38 +0000, Capitol wrote:



The London effect may be due to more RF around. A Rover I had would not
unlock when parked outside a shop with neon lighting. The shop owner
switched off the signs then all was well. Never parked close to that
shop again!

Well known problem in Portsmouth a few years back.
Harder to get the Royal Navy to turn whatever was emitting the
interfering RF off as well.
I think in some cases the recovery services called in by the owners
no longer wasted time trying to unlock the cars and just lifted them
to an area beyond the interference.

G.Harman

In article ,
wrote:
On Sat, 21 Jan 2017 11:10:38 +0000, Capitol wrote:



The London effect may be due to more RF around. A Rover I had would not
unlock when parked outside a shop with neon lighting. The shop owner
switched off the signs then all was well. Never parked close to that
shop again!

Well known problem in Portsmouth a few years back.
Harder to get the Royal Navy to turn whatever was emitting the
interfering RF off as well.
I think in some cases the recovery services called in by the owners
no longer wasted time trying to unlock the cars and just lifted them
to an area beyond the interference.

Might be worth knowing just where the aerial is located. Maybe inside the
appropriate module. Moving the transmitter closer to that might work. Or
maybe not. ;-)

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*A cubicle is just a padded cell without a door.

Dave Plowman London SW
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On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 10:24:42 -0000, "tim..."
wrote:



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. ..

Same on the model car we have, windows down and if held further
sunroof opens to tilt position.

Find it very useful on a hot day to open the windows and roof from the
living room, Restaurant, Hotel window etc and let some of the heat
accumulated in the car to escape before we go out to it.

provide it's still there by then, of course

tim

We are talking about the distance a car remote works so only a few
yards and I don't leave the windows open for hours just a few minutes
before we set off, any one wishing to take it would be doing so in
full view for most occasions

you think, that people don't steal things, just because they are in full
view

I assure you it happens frequently (relative to the number of thefts, that
is)

tim

In article , tim...
wrote:


wrote in message
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On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 10:24:42 -0000, "tim..."
wrote:



wrote in message
. ..

Same on the model car we have, windows down and if held further
sunroof opens to tilt position.

Find it very useful on a hot day to open the windows and roof from
the living room, Restaurant, Hotel window etc and let some of the
heat accumulated in the car to escape before we go out to it.

provide it's still there by then, of course

tim

We are talking about the distance a car remote works so only a few
yards and I don't leave the windows open for hours just a few minutes
before we set off, any one wishing to take it would be doing so in full
view for most occasions

you think, that people don't steal things, just because they are in full
view

I assure you it happens frequently (relative to the number of thefts,
that is)

as long as ther're wearing a Hi-viz jacket, nobody will chalenge them.

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from KT24 in Surrey, England