Well worth watching for those interested.

Tour of Chernobyl reactor 2, which was shutdown at the time reactor 4
blew up in April 1986, but restarted in the following December as the
electricity was needed. It was shut down for good about 2000.

The video is taken by a chap, quote, "[with] a graduate education in
nuclear engineering with a research emphasis in radiobiology" who
arranges workshops for professionals with an interest in radiation
protection.

"The target audience of our RAD-ER workshops has been people who may
encounter radiation, radioactive contamination, or nuclear emergency
response incidental to their jobs, and who are interested in a hands-on,
basic understanding of radiation measurement and practical protection
practices in a small-group (~8 people) setting. Participants have
diverse backgrounds (first responders, academics, students in relevant
fields, engineers). I try to distinguish these groups from the ChNPP
administration's stereotype of "tourists", which does not mean we don't
have fun (we do), but that we have a relevant focus for the visit,
background prep, and good discipline"

The vid was taken in Nov 2016.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe_zzTQFV3o

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On 1/10/2017 10:46 AM, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

Well worth watching for those interested.

Tour of Chernobyl reactor 2, which was shutdown at the time reactor 4
blew up in April 1986, but restarted in the following December as the
electricity was needed. It was shut down for good about 2000.

The video is taken by a chap, quote, "[with] a graduate education in
nuclear engineering with a research emphasis in radiobiology" who
arranges workshops for professionals with an interest in radiation
protection.

"The target audience of our RAD-ER workshops has been people who may
encounter radiation, radioactive contamination, or nuclear emergency
response incidental to their jobs, and who are interested in a hands-on,
basic understanding of radiation measurement and practical protection
practices in a small-group (~8 people) setting. Participants have
diverse backgrounds (first responders, academics, students in relevant
fields, engineers). I try to distinguish these groups from the ChNPP
administration's stereotype of "tourists", which does not mean we don't
have fun (we do), but that we have a relevant focus for the visit,
background prep, and good discipline"

The vid was taken in Nov 2016.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe_zzTQFV3o


Very interesting. Looks remarkably similar to the pile cap region of a
shut down Magnox reactor; probably tidier than many, in fact.

Interesting that they wear face masks there. In our C2 areas, we'd wear
the same sort of overshoes, but also boiler suits without pockets
(coveralls in our terminology) and rubber gloves over the cotton ones,
but not face masks.

But they wear masks in some of the areas outside too.

On Tuesday, 10 January 2017 10:46:14 UTC, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
Well worth watching for those interested.

Tour of Chernobyl reactor 2, which was shutdown at the time reactor 4
blew up in April 1986, but restarted in the following December as the
electricity was needed. It was shut down for good about 2000.

The video is taken by a chap, quote, "[with] a graduate education in
nuclear engineering with a research emphasis in radiobiology" who
arranges workshops for professionals with an interest in radiation
protection.

"The target audience of our RAD-ER workshops has been people who may
encounter radiation, radioactive contamination, or nuclear emergency
response incidental to their jobs, and who are interested in a hands-on,
basic understanding of radiation measurement and practical protection
practices in a small-group (~8 people) setting. Participants have
diverse backgrounds (first responders, academics, students in relevant
fields, engineers). I try to distinguish these groups from the ChNPP
administration's stereotype of "tourists", which does not mean we don't
have fun (we do), but that we have a relevant focus for the visit,
background prep, and good discipline"

The vid was taken in Nov 2016.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe_zzTQFV3o

According to many posting on this site there is no significant radiation.

On 1/10/2017 5:06 PM, harry wrote:
On Tuesday, 10 January 2017 10:46:14 UTC, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
Well worth watching for those interested.

Tour of Chernobyl reactor 2, which was shutdown at the time reactor 4
blew up in April 1986, but restarted in the following December as the
electricity was needed. It was shut down for good about 2000.

The video is taken by a chap, quote, "[with] a graduate education in
nuclear engineering with a research emphasis in radiobiology" who
arranges workshops for professionals with an interest in radiation
protection.

"The target audience of our RAD-ER workshops has been people who may
encounter radiation, radioactive contamination, or nuclear emergency
response incidental to their jobs, and who are interested in a hands-on,
basic understanding of radiation measurement and practical protection
practices in a small-group (~8 people) setting. Participants have
diverse backgrounds (first responders, academics, students in relevant
fields, engineers). I try to distinguish these groups from the ChNPP
administration's stereotype of "tourists", which does not mean we don't
have fun (we do), but that we have a relevant focus for the visit,
background prep, and good discipline"

The vid was taken in Nov 2016.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe_zzTQFV3o

According to many posting on this site there is no significant radiation.


Without context, a meaningless statement.

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Without context, a meaningless statement.

It's harry: what do you expect, a coherent argument?

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On 1/10/2017 3:58 PM, Huge wrote:
On 2017-01-10, newshound wrote:
On 1/10/2017 10:46 AM, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe_zzTQFV3o


Very interesting. Looks remarkably similar to the pile cap region of a
shut down Magnox reactor; probably tidier than many, in fact.

Interesting that they wear face masks there. In our C2 areas, we'd wear
the same sort of overshoes, but also boiler suits without pockets
(coveralls in our terminology) and rubber gloves over the cotton ones,
but not face masks.

I'd be worried about inhaling a fuel flea in that case. He specifically
mentions them at one point - where they find the hot spot on the fuel
"spindles" (or whatever it they're called.)


You certainly would not want to inhale that source of 2 R/hour, if it
was loose particulate. But, you can normally collect loose contamination
very effectively with a good vacuum cleaner. Since it was near the top
of the part which is mechanically handled by the fuel machine, I'd guess
it was a particle which had become trapped in a crevice during handling.
It's not necessarily fuel, it might be a bit of graphite (impurities
become activated in the high neutron flux), or a bit of metal swarf or
iron oxide, again activated by the neutron flux. The point is, it was a
single "hot spot" which they had located relatively easily. My guess is
that these parts had been cleaned somehow and cleared as "low active"
before storing in that relatively secure space.

If you do ingest or inhale something nasty like this, it is normally not
difficult to detect afterwards from the gamma radiation. There are two
exceptions, one is a few alpha sources, most notably Polonium 210, as
used to murder Litvinenco, the other is some soft beta sources like
Sulfur 36 (iirc) which only produce weak gammas. Site health physicists
are well aware of the particular issues with beta sources. Significant
"free" alpha sources are not normally found on nuclear power plant
except in the presence of fission products because they arise from
damaged irradiated fuel.

On Tuesday, 10 January 2017 10:46:14 UTC, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
Well worth watching for those interested.

I drove by there in 2010.

On 10/01/17 19:06, harry wrote:
On Tuesday, 10 January 2017 10:46:14 UTC, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
Well worth watching for those interested.

Tour of Chernobyl reactor 2, which was shutdown at the time reactor 4
blew up in April 1986, but restarted in the following December as the
electricity was needed. It was shut down for good about 2000.

The video is taken by a chap, quote, "[with] a graduate education in
nuclear engineering with a research emphasis in radiobiology" who
arranges workshops for professionals with an interest in radiation
protection.

"The target audience of our RAD-ER workshops has been people who may
encounter radiation, radioactive contamination, or nuclear emergency
response incidental to their jobs, and who are interested in a hands-on,
basic understanding of radiation measurement and practical protection
practices in a small-group (~8 people) setting. Participants have
diverse backgrounds (first responders, academics, students in relevant
fields, engineers). I try to distinguish these groups from the ChNPP
administration's stereotype of "tourists", which does not mean we don't
have fun (we do), but that we have a relevant focus for the visit,
background prep, and good discipline"

The vid was taken in Nov 2016.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe_zzTQFV3o

According to many posting on this site there is no significant radiation.

What do you call 'significant'

Anyway we were talking about the exclusion zone, not inside the
sarcophagus or the reactor buildings

On Tuesday, 10 January 2017 17:26:10 UTC, Simon Mason wrote:
On Tuesday, 10 January 2017 10:46:14 UTC, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
Well worth watching for those interested.

I drove by there in 2010.

It was the radiation gotcher brain.

On Tuesday, 10 January 2017 17:09:40 UTC, newshound wrote:
On 1/10/2017 5:06 PM, harry wrote:
On Tuesday, 10 January 2017 10:46:14 UTC, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
Well worth watching for those interested.

Tour of Chernobyl reactor 2, which was shutdown at the time reactor 4
blew up in April 1986, but restarted in the following December as the
electricity was needed. It was shut down for good about 2000.

The video is taken by a chap, quote, "[with] a graduate education in
nuclear engineering with a research emphasis in radiobiology" who
arranges workshops for professionals with an interest in radiation
protection.

"The target audience of our RAD-ER workshops has been people who may
encounter radiation, radioactive contamination, or nuclear emergency
response incidental to their jobs, and who are interested in a hands-on,
basic understanding of radiation measurement and practical protection
practices in a small-group (~8 people) setting. Participants have
diverse backgrounds (first responders, academics, students in relevant
fields, engineers). I try to distinguish these groups from the ChNPP
administration's stereotype of "tourists", which does not mean we don't
have fun (we do), but that we have a relevant focus for the visit,
background prep, and good discipline"

The vid was taken in Nov 2016.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe_zzTQFV3o

According to many posting on this site there is no significant radiation.


Without context, a meaningless statement.

You know who mean.

On Thursday, 12 January 2017 15:34:53 UTC, harry wrote:
On Tuesday, 10 January 2017 17:26:10 UTC, Simon Mason wrote:
On Tuesday, 10 January 2017 10:46:14 UTC, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
Well worth watching for those interested.

I drove by there in 2010.

It was the radiation gotcher brain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vzlv7LFmLMg