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Hi,

We have upgraded the wiki to use the latest version of media wiki

(should not make much difference in practice).

However we have also added the "math" component to it as well, so you
can now include proper formula and other mathematical notation in the
layout and have it rendered currently.

So for example:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Formula_examples

more detail on the options available he

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help...ying_a_formula



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On 02/01/17 01:10, John Rumm wrote:
Hi,

We have upgraded the wiki to use the latest version of media wiki

(should not make much difference in practice).

However we have also added the "math" component to it as well, so you
can now include proper formula and other mathematical notation in the
layout and have it rendered currently.

So for example:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Formula_examples

more detail on the options available he

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help...ying_a_formula


Useful page that. Next time I need a symbol it'll save time rather than
searching through umpteen pages of character maps.

Thanks for all your work on DIY Wiki.

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John Rumm wrote:

we have also added the "math" component to it as well, so you
can now include proper formula and other mathematical notation in the
layout and have it rendered currently.


Ah, that explains why that's failed when I've tried to use it before ...


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Hi,

We have upgraded the wiki to use the latest version of media wiki

(should not make much difference in practice).

However we have also added the "math" component to it as well, so you can
now include proper formula and other mathematical notation in the layout
and have it rendered currently.

So for example:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Formula_examples

more detail on the options available he

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help...ying_a_formula



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I do not know what "the wiki" is, or what it's for, or how to use it. Your
links don't help. You should do a sales pitch if you want to attract new
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Hi,

We have upgraded the wiki to use the latest version of media wiki


I do not know what "the wiki" is, or what it's for, or how to use it. Your
links don't help. You should do a sales pitch if you want to attract new
users.


http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Special:Random


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On 02/01/2017 01:10, John Rumm wrote:
Hi,

We have upgraded the wiki to use the latest version of media wiki

(should not make much difference in practice).

However we have also added the "math" component to it as well, so you
can now include proper formula and other mathematical notation in the
layout and have it rendered currently.

So for example:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Formula_examples

more detail on the options available he

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help...ying_a_formula



I don't know anything about wiki but the math layout appears to be Tex.
There are some great tools for doing math layout directly such as TeXstudio.
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On Mon, 02 Jan 2017 13:48:52 +0000, Nick wrote:

On 02/01/2017 01:10, John Rumm wrote:
Hi,

We have upgraded the wiki to use the latest version of media wiki

(should not make much difference in practice).

However we have also added the "math" component to it as well, so you
can now include proper formula and other mathematical notation in the
layout and have it rendered currently.

So for example:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Formula_examples

more detail on the options available he

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help...ying_a_formula



I don't know anything about wiki but the math layout appears to be Tex.


"appears to be"? It says it is, right at the top.

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On 02/01/2017 13:48, Nick wrote:
On 02/01/2017 01:10, John Rumm wrote:
Hi,

We have upgraded the wiki to use the latest version of media wiki

(should not make much difference in practice).

However we have also added the "math" component to it as well, so you
can now include proper formula and other mathematical notation in the
layout and have it rendered currently.

So for example:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Formula_examples

more detail on the options available he

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help...ying_a_formula



I don't know anything about wiki but the math layout appears to be Tex.


Yup, its a subset of it. No point in reinventing the wheel!

There are some great tools for doing math layout directly such as
TeXstudio.


Yup, there are also some add ons for firefox that let you cut and paste
formula between it and other document representations like MS Word or
Google docs.


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On 02/01/2017 11:53, Dave W wrote:

I do not know what "the wiki" is,


Its a part of the UK DIY FAQ setup...

or what it's for,


Unlike the normal FAQ which is built from static web pages that the FAQ
maintainer has to curate and maintain, the wiki is more of a DIY DIY FAQ
- i.e. anyone can add to it or edit it.

So its an easy place to stick articles on whatever DIY topic you fancy,
or to refer to for help on any number of DIY related activities. You
will see links to it frequently quoted in answers to questions here, and
it will also come up in google searches.

The topics cover a wide range of stuff, from some fairly tecnical
articles on electrics, heating, and plumbing. Many on building,
maintenance and repair. Lots on woodwork, furniture making and other
more hobby related stuff.

It uses the same software that makes wikipedia run, but its not
affiliated to it in any other way.

or how to use it.


To look for stuff, go to any page and use the search box. Or start at
one of the category pages:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Special:Categories

or the index:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Special:AllPages

If you want to contribute to it then start at:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...iting_Articles


Yourlinks don't help. You should do a sales pitch if you want to attract new
users.


My post was not intended as a sales pitch, just a note to existing users.

New users are always welcome though, so if anyone wants and account to
edit / create stuff on it, email me and I will create you an account (we
turned off anonymous edits years ago due to the amount of spam received).

There are currently just under 3,400 pages on the system with the most
popular pages racking up millions of page view between them.

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On 02/01/2017 11:53, Dave W wrote:

Yourlinks don't help. You should do a sales pitch if you want to attract new
users.


My post was not intended as a sales pitch, just a note to existing users.

New users are always welcome though, so if anyone wants and account to
edit / create stuff on it, email me and I will create you an account
(we turned off anonymous edits years ago due to the amount of spam
received).

There are currently just under 3,400 pages on the system with the most
popular pages racking up millions of page view between them.


Might be good to encourage users to report dead links. I found a couple
when poking round the underfloor heating section.
The Hep2O link goes to server not found.


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On 02/01/2017 11:53, Dave W wrote:

Yourlinks don't help. You should do a sales pitch if you want to
attract new
users.


My post was not intended as a sales pitch, just a note to existing users.

New users are always welcome though, so if anyone wants and account to
edit / create stuff on it, email me and I will create you an account
(we turned off anonymous edits years ago due to the amount of spam
received).

There are currently just under 3,400 pages on the system with the most
popular pages racking up millions of page view between them.


Might be good to encourage users to report dead links. I found a couple
when poking round the underfloor heating section.


Even better if rather than reporting it, they fix it ;-)

The Hep2O link goes to server not found.


Do you know which one?


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On Monday, 2 January 2017 18:18:07 UTC, Tim Lamb wrote:
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Rumm writes
On 02/01/2017 11:53, Dave W wrote:

Yourlinks don't help. You should do a sales pitch if you want to attract new
users.


My post was not intended as a sales pitch, just a note to existing users.

New users are always welcome though, so if anyone wants and account to
edit / create stuff on it, email me and I will create you an account
(we turned off anonymous edits years ago due to the amount of spam
received).

There are currently just under 3,400 pages on the system with the most
popular pages racking up millions of page view between them.


Might be good to encourage users to report dead links. I found a couple
when poking round the underfloor heating section.
The Hep2O link goes to server not found.


There are dead external links everywhere. The bottleneck is not knowing they exist, it's having someone that wants to take the time to find suitable replacement links.


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There are currently just under 3,400 pages on the system with the most
popular pages racking up millions of page view between them.


Might be good to encourage users to report dead links. I found a couple
when poking round the underfloor heating section.


Even better if rather than reporting it, they fix it ;-)


I'm not that clever:-)

The Hep2O link goes to server not found.


Do you know which one?


Bottom of *plumbing* page... External links* HEP2O Design
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On Monday, 2 January 2017 18:35:56 UTC, John Rumm wrote:
Might be good to encourage users to report dead links.

Even better if rather than reporting it, they fix it ;-)


Isn't there a housekeeping function that would test for dead external links periodically and at least mark them as such?

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On Monday, 2 January 2017 18:35:56 UTC, John Rumm wrote:
Might be good to encourage users to report dead links.

Even better if rather than reporting it, they fix it ;-)


Isn't there a housekeeping function that would test for dead external links periodically and at least mark them as such?

Owain


Impossible afaik, as external servers normally return something.


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Might be good to encourage users to report dead links.


Even better if rather than reporting it, they fix it ;-)


Isn't there a housekeeping function that would test for dead
external links periodically and at least mark them as such?


Impossible afaik, as external servers normally return something.


But it isnt that hard to work out when they return a not found page.
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I do not know what "the wiki" is,


Its a part of the UK DIY FAQ setup...


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On Thursday, 5 January 2017 21:35:26 UTC, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 02/01/2017 18:42, tabbypurr wrote:
There are dead external links everywhere. The bottleneck is not knowing they exist, it's having someone that wants to take the time to find suitable replacement links.


Wayback machine?

Andy


That might work.


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