At least the windfarms will be of some use for once. 5.76GW at time of
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Probabably be the wrong type of wind.
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At least the windfarms will be of some use for once. 5.76GW at time of
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On Friday, 23 December 2016 07:57:25 UTC, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
At least the windfarms will be of some use for once. 5.76GW at time of
writing (0800)

Certainly won't be getting much from solar.

It's so gloomy here I think I'll stick fairy lights in my eyeballs to offset SAD.

Owain

On 23/12/2016 07:57, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

At least the windfarms will be of some use for once. 5.76GW at time of
writing (0800)


I wouldn't bet on it. They can't be used if it's *too* windy!
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On 23/12/2016 11:53, Roger Mills wrote:
On 23/12/2016 07:57, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

At least the windfarms will be of some use for once. 5.76GW at time of
writing (0800)


I wouldn't bet on it. They can't be used if it's *too* windy!

My thoughts exactly. They are designed to shut down in those very high
winds. It has to be the *right* type of wind ...... lol.

On 23/12/16 09:57, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

At least the windfarms will be of some use for once. 5.76GW at time of
writing (0800)

7GW now.

On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 11:55:48 -0000, Bod wrote:

On 23/12/2016 11:53, Roger Mills wrote:
On 23/12/2016 07:57, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

At least the windfarms will be of some use for once. 5.76GW at time of
writing (0800)


I wouldn't bet on it. They can't be used if it's *too* windy!

My thoughts exactly. They are designed to shut down in those very high
winds. It has to be the *right* type of wind ...... lol.

Early days yet, they'll improve them so they can handle more wind.

Anyway, I have loads of them on the hills near me, and almost every time I've gone running up there, they're all spinning.

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It seems gusty wind is often the issue. If its constant they can be adjusted
to suit but variable direction or gusts are a death to a wind turbine, at
least the ones I know about. It takes a lot longer for pitch and direction
of the blades to be adjusted than it does for the wind to change so after a
certain point they just put them into the safest config and stop them.

I often wonder if a huge array of smaller more responsive devices might work
better, after all across the span of on of those giants the air currents
could be vastly different, putting a strain on the mountings.
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Does anyone recall the vertical rotating type, kind of like a centrifugal
blower in reverse. The good thing about it was that wind from any direction
worked though i understand its not as efficieint as thos based on blades and
aerofoils, and still has issues with gusts.


I remember those kites we used to have when young where they looked like
planes but the wings spun as the wind went over them.
Brian

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On 23/12/16 09:57, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

At least the windfarms will be of some use for once. 5.76GW at time of
writing (0800)

7GW now.

On 24/12/16 11:40, Brian Gaff wrote:
It seems gusty wind is often the issue. If its constant they can be adjusted
to suit but variable direction or gusts are a death to a wind turbine, at
least the ones I know about. It takes a lot longer for pitch and direction
of the blades to be adjusted than it does for the wind to change so after a
certain point they just put them into the safest config and stop them.

I often wonder if a huge array of smaller more responsive devices might work
better, after all across the span of on of those giants the air currents
could be vastly different, putting a strain on the mountings.
Brian


well no. the smaller ones would be vastly more expensive.

Anyway the issue is the old Irishism: If you want to generate reliable
electricity don't start with wind turbines.

On 24/12/16 11:45, Brian Gaff wrote:
Does anyone recall the vertical rotating type, kind of like a centrifugal
blower in reverse. The good thing about it was that wind from any direction
worked though i understand its not as efficieint as thos based on blades and
aerofoils, and still has issues with gusts.



Yep. I am sure that all these options have been thoroughly explored by
engineers trying to make the best possible turbines. Unfortunately even
the best possible turbines are total crapp.

I remember those kites we used to have when young where they looked like
planes but the wings spun as the wind went over them.
Brian

I thught they looked like hummingbirds.

On 24/12/2016 09:45, Brian Gaff wrote:
Does anyone recall the vertical rotating type, kind of like a centrifugal
blower in reverse. The good thing about it was that wind from any direction
worked though i understand its not as efficieint as thos based on blades and
aerofoils, and still has issues with gusts.


There is one of those installed here



However its the only one I have seen and it doesn't go around very
frequently.
Its not really in a good place AFAICS.

On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 18:56:58 -0000, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

Anyway, I have loads of them on the hills near me, and almost every time I've gone running up there, they're all spinning.

Under wind or grid power?

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On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 10:57:03 +0000, dennis@home wrote:

There is one of those installed here

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/
@52.5374947,-2.0168682,3a,37.5y,346.53h,85.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!
1sHn3oSPYiTB9M-2x8scruwA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

However its the only one I have seen and it doesn't go around very
frequently.
Its not really in a good place AFAICS.

There's a group of 4 beside the M25 he

data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-Dq1Yy_ZdJe7lZkb1r-oVg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Perhaps they harness the turbulence from passing traffic (when it isn't
static!)

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On Saturday, December 24, 2016 at 4:00:56 PM UTC, The Other John wrote:
On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 10:57:03 +0000, dennis@home wrote:

There is one of those installed here

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/
@52.5374947,-2.0168682,3a,37.5y,346.53h,85.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!
1sHn3oSPYiTB9M-2x8scruwA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

However its the only one I have seen and it doesn't go around very
frequently.
Its not really in a good place AFAICS.

There's a group of 4 beside the M25 he

data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-Dq1Yy_ZdJe7lZkb1r-oVg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Perhaps they harness the turbulence from passing traffic (when it isn't
static!)

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here is an alternative alternative, kite turbine https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/f...rbine-energy#/

Brian Gaff wrote

Does anyone recall the vertical rotating type, kind of like a centrifugal
blower in reverse.

Yes.

The good thing about it was that wind from any direction worked

Yes.

though i understand its not as efficieint as thos based on blades and
aerofoils,

Yes, if only because the area intercepted isnt as great.

and still has issues with gusts.

I remember those kites we used to have when young where they looked like
planes but the wings spun as the wind went over them.

Don’t recall any of those myself.


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On 23/12/16 09:57, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

At least the windfarms will be of some use for once. 5.76GW at time of
writing (0800)

7GW now.

On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 11:14:45 -0000, Dave Liquorice wrote:

On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 18:56:58 -0000, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

Anyway, I have loads of them on the hills near me, and almost every time I've gone running up there, they're all spinning.

Under wind or grid power?

Why would they spin from grid power? Are they trying to make Scotland windier?

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