Hi All,

A couple of mates have the stand alone Dymo label printers and seeing
how useful they can be (keeping stuff organised / marked up etc) I
fancied one. Daughter would probably also make use of said, I was
wondering if it might be work getting a wireless model?

So, I imagine some here may also use such things (other makes
considered) I was wondering (after a quick Google myself) if there was
a networkable one that anyone could *recommend*?

I ask because sometimes the latest / current offering isn't as good as
a former model and a second hand older one could be a better bet?

I don't have a specific use in mind, just maybe marking storage boxes,
equipment and document folders etc. I have a couple of the hand held
(Dymo, 'LetraTag' / 12mm) label makers for the smaller stuff.

As I have a server on whenever any machine is on then I guess I could
also offer a USB only printer on there as a shared device if that is a
feature option.

Cheers, T i m

T i m wrote:

A couple of mates have the stand alone Dymo label printers and
seeing I was wondering if it might be work getting a wireless model?

I have a USB dymo printer (the tape one, not the address label one) but
it ends up as a standard windows printer, so it could be shared over the
LAN/WiFi to any other device on the network.

On Wed, 14 Dec 2016 11:21:31 +0000, Andy Burns
wrote:

T i m wrote:

A couple of mates have the stand alone Dymo label printers and
seeing I was wondering if it might be work getting a wireless model?

I have a USB dymo printer (the tape one, not the address label one) but
it ends up as a standard windows printer, so it could be shared over the
LAN/WiFi to any other device on the network.

Thanks for that Andy.

My secondary question (after if it would be sharable or not) is can
any / the matching software also deal with the printer being
'remote'?

Cheers, T i m

T i m wrote:
Hi All,

A couple of mates have the stand alone Dymo label printers and seeing
how useful they can be (keeping stuff organised / marked up etc) I
fancied one. Daughter would probably also make use of said, I was
wondering if it might be work getting a wireless model?

So, I imagine some here may also use such things (other makes
considered) I was wondering (after a quick Google myself) if there was
a networkable one that anyone could *recommend*?

I ask because sometimes the latest / current offering isn't as good as
a former model and a second hand older one could be a better bet?

I don't have a specific use in mind, just maybe marking storage boxes,
equipment and document folders etc. I have a couple of the hand held
(Dymo, 'LetraTag' / 12mm) label makers for the smaller stuff.

As I have a server on whenever any machine is on then I guess I could
also offer a USB only printer on there as a shared device if that is a
feature option.

Cheers, T i m


I don't think any of the printers are directly networkable, since dymo
sell a separate print server for the purpose. May as well share it from
your server.

On Wed, 14 Dec 2016 11:23:07 +0000, "Dan S. MacAbre"
wrote:
snip

I don't think any of the printers are directly networkable, since dymo
sell a separate print server for the purpose.

This one looks like it is?

http://www.dymo.com/en-GB/labelmanag...np-label-maker

May as well share it from
your server.

I could ... just that means I have to position it within a
USB-cable's-length of my server rather than where it's most
convenient. ;-(

If it's supported by Linux I could make a std one WiFi by sharing it
off a Raspberry Pi3. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

On 14/12/16 18:28, T i m wrote:
On Wed, 14 Dec 2016 11:23:07 +0000, "Dan S. MacAbre"
wrote:
snip

I don't think any of the printers are directly networkable, since dymo
sell a separate print server for the purpose.

This one looks like it is?

http://www.dymo.com/en-GB/labelmanag...np-label-maker

May as well share it from
your server.

I could ... just that means I have to position it within a
USB-cable's-length of my server rather than where it's most
convenient. ;-(

If it's supported by Linux I could make a std one WiFi by sharing it
off a Raspberry Pi3. ;-)

Axshully its possible to make it a 'raw' device and put the drivers for
it elsewhere on e,g. the winboxen using the pi as server.


Cheers, T i m

On Wed, 14 Dec 2016 19:58:42 +0200, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

On 14/12/16 18:28, T i m wrote:
On Wed, 14 Dec 2016 11:23:07 +0000, "Dan S. MacAbre"
wrote:
snip

I don't think any of the printers are directly networkable, since dymo
sell a separate print server for the purpose.

This one looks like it is?

http://www.dymo.com/en-GB/labelmanag...np-label-maker

May as well share it from
your server.

I could ... just that means I have to position it within a
USB-cable's-length of my server rather than where it's most
convenient. ;-(

If it's supported by Linux I could make a std one WiFi by sharing it
off a Raspberry Pi3. ;-)

Axshully its possible to make it a 'raw' device and put the drivers for
it elsewhere on e,g. the winboxen using the pi as server.

Interesting. I'll have to see if I can try it out on a mates printer
before buying one myself.

Cheers, T i m

T i m wrote:
On Wed, 14 Dec 2016 19:58:42 +0200, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

On 14/12/16 18:28, T i m wrote:
On Wed, 14 Dec 2016 11:23:07 +0000, "Dan S. MacAbre"
wrote:
snip

I don't think any of the printers are directly networkable, since dymo
sell a separate print server for the purpose.

This one looks like it is?

http://www.dymo.com/en-GB/labelmanag...np-label-maker

May as well share it from
your server.

I could ... just that means I have to position it within a
USB-cable's-length of my server rather than where it's most
convenient. ;-(

If it's supported by Linux I could make a std one WiFi by sharing it
off a Raspberry Pi3. ;-)

Axshully its possible to make it a 'raw' device and put the drivers for
it elsewhere on e,g. the winboxen using the pi as server.

Interesting. I'll have to see if I can try it out on a mates printer
before buying one myself.

Cheers, T i m


We've a few here, and it seems that if you actually want nice graphic
labels (as opposed to just printing on tiny paper), you need the
designer software on the client anyway, otherwise you get problems with
font and margin sizes. The client software is (as you'll know) also a
nice database client for things like addresses.

In article ,
T i m wrote:
A couple of mates have the stand alone Dymo label printers and seeing
how useful they can be (keeping stuff organised / marked up etc) I
fancied one. Daughter would probably also make use of said, I was
wondering if it might be work getting a wireless model?

Although mine runs from USB, the USB socket can't provide enough current,
so it charges an internal battery.
And obviously has to be used beside a computer (with the labeller
software) to type in what's needed. The ability to use it on Wi-Fi doesn't
seem to offer any advantage to me - if you subsequently had to plug it in
to charge the battery.

--
*Many hamsters only blink one eye at a time *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Wed, 14 Dec 2016 14:06:20 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
T i m wrote:
A couple of mates have the stand alone Dymo label printers and seeing
how useful they can be (keeping stuff organised / marked up etc) I
fancied one. Daughter would probably also make use of said, I was
wondering if it might be work getting a wireless model?

Although mine runs from USB, the USB socket can't provide enough current,
so it charges an internal battery.

Ok.

And obviously has to be used beside a computer (with the labeller
software) to type in what's needed.

Ok.

The ability to use it on Wi-Fi doesn't
seem to offer any advantage to me - if you subsequently had to plug it in
to charge the battery.

Well no, other than I'm guessing it *can* function as a stand-alone
but network-shared device, you could 1) position it where you like in
the house (subject to it being within wireless range and near a power
socket etc) and 2) anyone (on your network) can use it, even if any
host / server machines are turned off?

I was thinking ahead in that my WHS only powers on when a Windows
client is connected and so if there was a Dymo Android app, a truly
'stand alone' printer might still be useable.

As I mentioned elsewhere, maybe a basic USB model hanging off a
Raspberry Pi3 (running Linux) could fit the bill, as long as it is
easy to do as I don't know (personally) a one Linux geek that could
help me.

Cheers, T i m

On 14/12/16 13:15, T i m wrote:
As I have a server on whenever any machine is on then I guess I could
also offer a USB only printer on there as a shared device if that is a
feature option.

That is just as good, and often better

On Wed, 14 Dec 2016 17:04:06 +0200, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

On 14/12/16 13:15, T i m wrote:
As I have a server on whenever any machine is on then I guess I could
also offer a USB only printer on there as a shared device if that is a
feature option.

That is just as good, and often better

... as long as the host machine is on. As mentioned elsewhere ... it
it were self sufficient as a network device and you could print to it
from an Android tablet, that could be very handy.

So, plug it into a Pi3 and share it but is it supported by Linux?

Drivers & Downloads
DYMO Label™ Software v8.6, Mac®
DYMO Label™ Software v8.6, Windows®

http://www.dymo.com/en-GB/labelmanag...np-label-maker

Cheers, T i m

T i m wrote:
So, plug it into a Pi3 and share it but is it supported by Linux?

Yes, there's a CUPS driver. It's even written by Dymo:
http://www.dymo.com/en-GB/dymo-label...ups-linux-p--1

Works on the Pi too:
https://www.hmazter.com/2013/05/rasp...or-labelwriter

That makes it a printer - you can print to it from any software.
However you probably want to look around for suitable label software, since
some features of label software (eg resizing text to fit the label) aren't
standard on normal wordprocessors.

(The CUPS driver also avoids the pile of bloatware that is the official Dymo
software)

Theo

On 14 Dec 2016 21:01:23 +0000 (GMT), Theo
wrote:

T i m wrote:
So, plug it into a Pi3 and share it but is it supported by Linux?

Yes, there's a CUPS driver. It's even written by Dymo:
http://www.dymo.com/en-GB/dymo-label...ups-linux-p--1

Cool. ;-)

Works on the Pi too:
https://www.hmazter.com/2013/05/rasp...or-labelwriter

Nice walk through (at first glance) and I will be a good test to see
just how comprehensive it is. ;-)

That makes it a printer - you can print to it from any software.

And from Windows, OSX and Linux OS client machines (hopefully)?

However you probably want to look around for suitable label software, since
some features of label software (eg resizing text to fit the label) aren't
standard on normal wordprocessors.

But don't Dymo offer a (Windows?) app that makes all that easy?

(The CUPS driver also avoids the pile of bloatware that is the official Dymo
software)

I'm not sure if you have already explained / answered this as I don't
know enough about the workings of Linux ... but does that mean you can
use the supplied Windows app to print though the Pi to the Dymo just
as one would normally please Theo?

Basically I'm hoping for a 'Networked Dymo Printer' and any server
solution to be transparent in use.


Cheers, T i m

T i m wrote:
On 14 Dec 2016 21:01:23 +0000 (GMT), Theo
wrote:
That makes it a printer - you can print to it from any software.

And from Windows, OSX and Linux OS client machines (hopefully)?

Yes.

I'm not sure if you have already explained / answered this as I don't
know enough about the workings of Linux ... but does that mean you can
use the supplied Windows app to print though the Pi to the Dymo just
as one would normally please Theo?

I'm not sure. On a Mac it does use the usual printing system (which happens
to be CUPS). I don't know if the Windows app uses the Windows printing
system, or does its own thing.

The Mac app does have a 'add network printer' option, but that seems to be
searching for printers - there's no way to configure a specific network
printer URL that I can see.

Ah, it does seem to use standard Windows printer sharing (ch 3):
http://download.dymo.com/dymo/user-g...uide_en-US.pdf

so it should be the same as adding any other shared printer (speaking IPP
rather than Samba since it's being shared from CUPS).

Theo

On Wed, 14 Dec 2016 21:29:07 +0000, T i m wrote:

On 14 Dec 2016 21:01:23 +0000 (GMT), Theo
wrote:

T i m wrote:
So, plug it into a Pi3 and share it but is it supported by Linux?

Yes, there's a CUPS driver. It's even written by Dymo:
http://www.dymo.com/en-GB/dymo-label...ups-linux-p--1

Cool. ;-)

Works on the Pi too:
https://www.hmazter.com/2013/05/rasp...or-labelwriter

Nice walk through (at first glance) and I will be a good test to see
just how comprehensive it is. ;-)

I spent the best part of half a day today, going through that walk
through (the fact that it was a Pi1b didn't help the speed) and it
mostly seemed to work. My eyes aren't brilliant and my copy-typing is
even worse but I only made a few typos that I eventually corrected
(spotting the errors etc).

I got the Dymo driver downloaded and installed and CUPS configured via
a text html client (links2) but that's where it started to go a bit
awry. It initially looked like the print driver had been installed but
then it had gone, so because I hate the CLI (for reasons given above)
I installed webmin and after following some other walkthroughs (that
covered adding SAMBA so the Windows PC's could see the printer etc)
and resetting passwords that hadn't seemed to be taken (or asked for),
managed to get it all working!

So, I can SSH into the Pi with Putty (but am still stuck with the CLI.
I can get into CUPS remote admin (with the user 'root'?) and can get
into Webmin now back with the std Raspbian defaults.

I've got another Pi3b on the way and that might make the remote
consoles a bit quicker and give me WiFi if I want to make the Pi /
printer fully portable around the house. That will give me a chance to
go though it all again and see if it goes smoother. Rather than using
webmin ... a long time ago you could just type 'startx' and have a gui
for configuring stuff but not have it start automaticaly at bootup?

I was thinking of designing and printing a 3D base that contained the
Pi and a 24 to 5V buck converter so I can plug the Dymo 450 PSU into
the new 'base' and there would be a flying lead back to power the
printer (24V) and a short USB cable.

Cheers, T i m

On Wed, 14 Dec 2016 11:15:53 -0000, T i m wrote:

Hi All,

A couple of mates have the stand alone Dymo label printers and seeing
how useful they can be (keeping stuff organised / marked up etc) I
fancied one. Daughter would probably also make use of said, I was
wondering if it might be work getting a wireless model?

So, I imagine some here may also use such things (other makes
considered) I was wondering (after a quick Google myself) if there was
a networkable one that anyone could *recommend*?

I ask because sometimes the latest / current offering isn't as good as
a former model and a second hand older one could be a better bet?

I don't have a specific use in mind, just maybe marking storage boxes,
equipment and document folders etc. I have a couple of the hand held
(Dymo, 'LetraTag' / 12mm) label makers for the smaller stuff.

As I have a server on whenever any machine is on then I guess I could
also offer a USB only printer on there as a shared device if that is a
feature option.

Cheers, T i m

You can buy an ethernet to USB convertor (i.e. a little box that pretends to be a computer and shares a USB printer etc on the network). I've used several and they're almost as easy as a proper network printer.

--
Good health is merely the slowest possible rate at which one can die.

On Thu, 15 Dec 2016 00:14:38 -0000, "James Wilkinson Sword"
wrote:

snip

You can buy an ethernet to USB convertor (i.e. a little box that pretends to be a computer and shares a USB printer etc on the network). I've used several and they're almost as easy as a proper network printer.

Yes, I've been using stand-alone 'print servers' [1] (and fitting
JetDirect cards in HPLJ's etc) since the days of thin Ethernet but
haven't used one of late or ever used a UTP USB one (that I can
remember, just to parallel).

I'm also never sure if they fully support all printers ('if it's not
on the list it may not work' etc) so if I bought something like the
TP-LINK TL-PS110U at ~£23 I'd be less sure of success than if I bought
the genuine Dymo Print Server at around 90 quid!

That's why I think I'd be inclined to give TP-Link CS a call and see
what they think the chances are and if less than positive, try the RPi
solution.

Cheers, T i m

[1] What were the printing options on a Netware server? You could have
it as a direct print server itself (printer plugged into the server
directly) or redirect the queue out to a remote networked printer
(possibly hanging off a workstation or hardware print server).
'RPrinter' was it?

On Thu, 15 Dec 2016 09:50:40 -0000, T i m wrote:

On Thu, 15 Dec 2016 00:14:38 -0000, "James Wilkinson Sword"
wrote:

snip

You can buy an ethernet to USB convertor (i.e. a little box that pretends to be a computer and shares a USB printer etc on the network). I've used several and they're almost as easy as a proper network printer.

Yes, I've been using stand-alone 'print servers' [1] (and fitting
JetDirect cards in HPLJ's etc) since the days of thin Ethernet but
haven't used one of late or ever used a UTP USB one (that I can
remember, just to parallel).

I'm also never sure if they fully support all printers ('if it's not
on the list it may not work' etc) so if I bought something like the
TP-LINK TL-PS110U at ~£23 I'd be less sure of success than if I bought
the genuine Dymo Print Server at around 90 quid!

That's why I think I'd be inclined to give TP-Link CS a call and see
what they think the chances are and if less than positive, try the RPi
solution.

Cheers, T i m

[1] What were the printing options on a Netware server? You could have
it as a direct print server itself (printer plugged into the server
directly) or redirect the queue out to a remote networked printer
(possibly hanging off a workstation or hardware print server).
'RPrinter' was it?

The standalone print-servers I used just worked, on anything. Parallel and USB. As long as you had the driver for the printer on the computer, it passed everything through.

--
Hard work pays off in the future. Laziness pays off now.

On 15/12/16 17:44, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 15 Dec 2016 09:50:40 -0000, T i m wrote:

On Thu, 15 Dec 2016 00:14:38 -0000, "James Wilkinson Sword"
wrote:

snip

You can buy an ethernet to USB convertor (i.e. a little box that
pretends to be a computer and shares a USB printer etc on the
network). I've used several and they're almost as easy as a proper
network printer.

Yes, I've been using stand-alone 'print servers' [1] (and fitting
JetDirect cards in HPLJ's etc) since the days of thin Ethernet but
haven't used one of late or ever used a UTP USB one (that I can
remember, just to parallel).

I'm also never sure if they fully support all printers ('if it's not
on the list it may not work' etc) so if I bought something like the
TP-LINK TL-PS110U at ~£23 I'd be less sure of success than if I bought
the genuine Dymo Print Server at around 90 quid!

That's why I think I'd be inclined to give TP-Link CS a call and see
what they think the chances are and if less than positive, try the RPi
solution.

Cheers, T i m

[1] What were the printing options on a Netware server? You could have
it as a direct print server itself (printer plugged into the server
directly) or redirect the queue out to a remote networked printer
(possibly hanging off a workstation or hardware print server).
'RPrinter' was it?

The standalone print-servers I used just worked, on anything. Parallel
and USB. As long as you had the driver for the printer on the computer,
it passed everything through.

HP direct type stuff is a straight port thing. Cant remember which
port(s) tho.

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 15/12/16 17:44, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 15 Dec 2016 09:50:40 -0000, T i m wrote:

On Thu, 15 Dec 2016 00:14:38 -0000, "James Wilkinson Sword"
wrote:

snip

You can buy an ethernet to USB convertor (i.e. a little box that
pretends to be a computer and shares a USB printer etc on the
network). I've used several and they're almost as easy as a proper
network printer.

Yes, I've been using stand-alone 'print servers' [1] (and fitting
JetDirect cards in HPLJ's etc) since the days of thin Ethernet but
haven't used one of late or ever used a UTP USB one (that I can
remember, just to parallel).

I'm also never sure if they fully support all printers ('if it's not
on the list it may not work' etc) so if I bought something like the
TP-LINK TL-PS110U at ~£23 I'd be less sure of success than if I bought
the genuine Dymo Print Server at around 90 quid!

That's why I think I'd be inclined to give TP-Link CS a call and see
what they think the chances are and if less than positive, try the RPi
solution.

Cheers, T i m

[1] What were the printing options on a Netware server? You could have
it as a direct print server itself (printer plugged into the server
directly) or redirect the queue out to a remote networked printer
(possibly hanging off a workstation or hardware print server).
'RPrinter' was it?

The standalone print-servers I used just worked, on anything. Parallel
and USB. As long as you had the driver for the printer on the computer,
it passed everything through.

HP direct type stuff is a straight port thing. Cant remember which
port(s) tho.

ISTR you add a TCP/IP printing port.

On Thu, 15 Dec 2016 15:44:29 -0000, "James Wilkinson Sword"
wrote:

snip

I'm also never sure if they fully support all printers ('if it's not
on the list it may not work' etc) so if I bought something like the
TP-LINK TL-PS110U at ~£23 I'd be less sure of success than if I bought
the genuine Dymo Print Server at around 90 quid!

That's why I think I'd be inclined to give TP-Link CS a call and see
what they think the chances are and if less than positive, try the RPi
solution.


The standalone print-servers I used just worked, on anything. Parallel and USB.

Ok.

As long as you had the driver for the printer on the computer, it passed everything through.

Ok, it might be worth a go with a basic dedicated server then.

Cheers, T i m