I've got a six foot high wooden fence..... a proper constructed one and
not a fence panel one. Its got 4"x"4" posts, several of which are quite
badly rotten just below the surface. How easy is it to replace the
rotten posts in isolation without disturbing the rest of the fence?

Thanks.

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On 11/18/2016 7:27 PM, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Fri, 18 Nov 2016 18:46:00 +0000, Paul Giverin
wrote:

I've got a six foot high wooden fence..... a proper constructed one and
not a fence panel one. Its got 4"x"4" posts, several of which are quite
badly rotten just below the surface. How easy is it to replace the
rotten posts in isolation without disturbing the rest of the fence?

Thanks.

Easy enough https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH8m24YqG24

I agree that this is an easy repair method, if you don't mind the
appearance.

But if the OP wants to *replace* we need more details of the
construction, and also to ask how old it was, and whether alternative
precautions are necessary to extend the life in future.

Chris Hogg wrote:
On Fri, 18 Nov 2016 18:46:00 +0000, Paul Giverin
wrote:

I've got a six foot high wooden fence..... a proper constructed one
and not a fence panel one. Its got 4"x"4" posts, several of which
are quite badly rotten just below the surface. How easy is it to
replace the rotten posts in isolation without disturbing the rest of
the fence?

Thanks.

Easy enough https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH8m24YqG24

Not sure the Op would want concrete posts showing, otherwise he'd have gone
for a concrete post and panel fence. These are OK if you've got access to
both sides and you can hide them on the side not in view, not sure a
neighbour would appreciate an odd post here and there on their side if it's
a 'party' fence.

To the OP:

What reason is there that the panels can't be removed prior to new posts
being installed and the old panels going back in? - digging a 2ft hole in a
100mm space is a tall order, maybe the 'flapping panels could be pushed back
or forwards slightly to give more digging room and not removed completely?

On 18/11/2016 19:27, Chris Hogg wrote:


Easy enough https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH8m24YqG24


Until you find that the wooden posts have been bedded in with a barrow
load of concrete.

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On 18/11/2016 18:46, Paul Giverin wrote:
I've got a six foot high wooden fence..... a proper constructed one and
not a fence panel one. Its got 4"x"4" posts, several of which are quite
badly rotten just below the surface. How easy is it to replace the
rotten posts in isolation without disturbing the rest of the fence?

Thanks.

I put new posts midway between the old ones, and left the old ones in
place. I intended to remove them but couldn't really see the point when
it came to it. I would have had to join the rails where the old posts
had been.

Bill

On 18/11/2016 20:39, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Fri, 18 Nov 2016 20:18:34 +0000, alan_m
wrote:

On 18/11/2016 19:27, Chris Hogg wrote:


Easy enough https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH8m24YqG24


Until you find that the wooden posts have been bedded in with a barrow
load of concrete.

Then he will need one of these
http://www.wickes.co.uk/Wickes-Carbo...500mm/p/167422

Even then it can be hard work (DAMHIK)

ANdy

On 18/11/2016 19:44, Phil L wrote:


To the OP:

What reason is there that the panels can't be removed prior to new posts
being installed and the old panels going back in? - digging a 2ft hole in a
100mm space is a tall order, maybe the 'flapping panels could be pushed back
or forwards slightly to give more digging room and not removed completely?



As I said originally, its not a panel fence. Its a continuous fence just
like the one shown he-
http://www.fangornlandscapes.co.uk/images/fence3.jpg

Its about 18 years old. Everything else is fine, just the posts.

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Paul Giverin wrote:

As I said originally, its not a panel fence. Its a continuous fence just
like the one shown he-
http://www.fangornlandscapes.co.uk/images/fence3.jpg

With similar metal arris rail brackets?

Chris
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On 18/11/2016 19:44, Phil L wrote:


To the OP:

What reason is there that the panels can't be removed prior to new posts
being installed and the old panels going back in? - digging a 2ft hole in a
100mm space is a tall order, maybe the 'flapping panels could be pushed back
or forwards slightly to give more digging room and not removed completely?



As I said originally, its not a panel fence. Its a continuous fence
just like the one shown he-
http://www.fangornlandscapes.co.uk/images/fence3.jpg

Its about 18 years old. Everything else is fine, just the posts.

I think your first move must be to establish whether the rotted posts
are bedded in concrete.

If not, or it can be easily broken up, the video method works well. I
would use a *shoveholer* to dig a narrow hole. Also postcrete is an
expensive solution when cement slurry and some coarse rubble fill will
do the same job.

Bill's intermediate posts could be made wider than the existing with
recesses cut to take the arris rails. If you plan to stay long I would
stick with the concrete stubs, perhaps set to the side, and stand the
new timber in your favourite wood preserver for a few minutes.


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I've got a six foot high wooden fence..... a proper constructed one and
not a fence panel one. Its got 4"x"4" posts, several of which are quite
badly rotten just below the surface. How easy is it to replace the rotten
posts in isolation without disturbing the rest of the fence?

Thanks.

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Paul Giverin

On 18/11/2016 18:46, Paul Giverin wrote:
How easy is it to replace the rotten posts in isolation without disturbing the rest of the fence?
It's not.

Saw the ends off the arris rails up against the rotten posts, lift out
the panel, replace the posts (as others have said, this is easy or hard
depending on how much concrete there is), replace the posts (don't
bother making the mortices), refit the panel using these brackets
http://www.screwfix.com/p/arris-rail...-10-pack/48243 to
attach the ends of the arris rails.
If there's too much concrete around the old post bases then divide a
two-bay run into a three-bay run so you can put the new posts somewhere
easy.
However you decide to tackle it, I would use concrete spurs and bolt the
new (or, possibly, old) posts to them so they won't rot again.

On 19/11/2016 12:45, wrote:
On 18/11/2016 18:46, Paul Giverin wrote:
How easy is it to replace the rotten posts in isolation without
disturbing the rest of the fence?
It's not.

Saw the ends off the arris rails up against the rotten posts, lift out
the panel, replace the posts (as others have said, this is easy or hard
depending on how much concrete there is), replace the posts (don't
bother making the mortices), refit the panel using these brackets
http://www.screwfix.com/p/arris-rail...-10-pack/48243 to
attach the ends of the arris rails.
If there's too much concrete around the old post bases then divide a
two-bay run into a three-bay run so you can put the new posts somewhere
easy.
Ooops, forgot to point out the b obvious that you'll need some new arris
for one run and to transfer the feather edge.
However you decide to tackle it, I would use concrete spurs and bolt the
new (or, possibly, old) posts to them so they won't rot again.

On 18/11/2016 21:55, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 18/11/2016 20:39, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Fri, 18 Nov 2016 20:18:34 +0000, alan_m
wrote:

On 18/11/2016 19:27, Chris Hogg wrote:


Easy enough https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH8m24YqG24


Until you find that the wooden posts have been bedded in with a barrow
load of concrete.

Then he will need one of these
http://www.wickes.co.uk/Wickes-Carbo...500mm/p/167422


Even then it can be hard work (DAMHIK)

Wouldn't it be a lot easier with an SDS drill?

On 19/11/2016 12:45, wrote:
On 18/11/2016 18:46, Paul Giverin wrote:

However you decide to tackle it, I would use concrete spurs and bolt the
new (or, possibly, old) posts to them so they won't rot again.

I hadn't considered using concrete repair spurs. Perhaps that would be
the easiest option. I would still have to chip away at the concrete at
the base of the rotted post to enable the spurs to go deep enough but it
sounds easier than replacing the posts. Thanks.

On 18/11/2016 20:18, alan_m wrote:
On 18/11/2016 19:27, Chris Hogg wrote:


Easy enough https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH8m24YqG24


Until you find that the wooden posts have been bedded in with a barrow
load of concrete.


I did several like that except with the bigger spur posts you can get.

You use a big SDS drill to break the concrete on one side, dig out the
rotten post from the remaining concrete fill the resulting channel and
drop the spur in, bolt it up and fill in the rest of the hole.
It doesn't need to a continuous ring of new concrete as it requires
virtually no tensile strength.