On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 18:50:19 -0000, Chris Green wrote:

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 18:32:52 -0000, Chris Green wrote:

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 09:30:16 -0000, Chris Green wrote:

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 21:25:02 -0000, Chris Green wrote:

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

Google failed to find that, for some reason. The comments made there,
are similar to what took place. They knew my name.

I disconnected my landline and only use my mobile. Much less nuisance calls,
and I can see the number.

Hardly a 'mobile only' facility.

Tends to be. Every single mobile has it, and very few landphones do.

Hardly 'very few', I think most of the ones that I have access to have
the caller's number available and/or shown. Our DECT phones are so
similar to a mobile that many people forget that they're *not* mobiles.

Depends what you pay for the phone. I've always just grabbed the cheapest
phone possible, or sometimes gone for a cordless. It's just a bloody phone,
I don't need chrome plated edging.

... and what does your mobile cost?

It was free. My neighbour has one of those expensive contracts which gives
him a new one every couple of years. They don't want the old one back..

It was free to you, I've acquired all sorts of phones that way but it
doesn't really mean much. A mobile phone is fundamentally a much more
expensive device than a POTS one.

No it isn't. I can get unlimited texts and 4 hours of calls to anything per month for only £5. You can't even get line rental for that.

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On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 18:50:52 -0000, Chris Green wrote:

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 11/11/16 18:32, Chris Green wrote:
James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 09:30:16 -0000, Chris Green wrote:

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 21:25:02 -0000, Chris Green wrote:

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

Google failed to find that, for some reason. The comments made there,
are similar to what took place. They knew my name.

I disconnected my landline and only use my mobile. Much less nuisance calls,
and I can see the number.

Hardly a 'mobile only' facility.

Tends to be. Every single mobile has it, and very few landphones do.

Hardly 'very few', I think most of the ones that I have access to have
the caller's number available and/or shown. Our DECT phones are so
similar to a mobile that many people forget that they're *not* mobiles.

Depends what you pay for the phone. I've always just grabbed the cheapest
phone possible, or sometimes gone for a cordless. It's just a bloody phone,
I don't need chrome plated edging.

.... and what does your mobile cost?

Mine costs nothing., I never use it

No running costs, but the hardware?

I've seen basic ones for a tenner in Asda. Including some calls.

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On 11/11/16 18:50, Chris Green wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 11/11/16 18:32, Chris Green wrote:
James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 09:30:16 -0000, Chris Green wrote:

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 21:25:02 -0000, Chris Green wrote:

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

Google failed to find that, for some reason. The comments made there,
are similar to what took place. They knew my name.

I disconnected my landline and only use my mobile. Much less nuisance calls,
and I can see the number.

Hardly a 'mobile only' facility.

Tends to be. Every single mobile has it, and very few landphones do.

Hardly 'very few', I think most of the ones that I have access to have
the caller's number available and/or shown. Our DECT phones are so
similar to a mobile that many people forget that they're *not* mobiles.

Depends what you pay for the phone. I've always just grabbed the cheapest
phone possible, or sometimes gone for a cordless. It's just a bloody phone,
I don't need chrome plated edging.

.... and what does your mobile cost?

Mine costs nothing., I never use it

No running costs, but the hardware?

IIRC that was £19.50

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conventions is invited to try transgressing those conventions from the
windows of my apartment. (I live on the twenty-first floor.) "

Alan Sokal

On 11/11/16 18:50, Chris Green wrote:
A mobile phone is fundamentally a much more
expensive device than a POTS one.

Yep. £12 versus £4 parts cost.

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"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign,
that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."

Jonathan Swift.

On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 04:05:44 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:



"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 02:22:17 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
news On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 22:45:57 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
news On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 19:26:57 -0000, Harry Bloomfield
wrote:

Mr Pounder Esquire wrote on 10/11/2016 :
Harry Bloomfield wrote:
This is the first to get through the net, since I installed our BT
8500's with the TruCall system 8-o .

The system logged a series of calls from 01134196912. Which at
first
glance suggested it might have been a genuine and local number, so
I
tried ringing it back and it rang unanswered, though it did sound a
bit odd the ringing tone. The caller had failed to announce their
name and press # to get through in each of their calls.

Then I tried to trace where the call had originated 0113 is a Leeds
code, also our area code, except all of our codes (so far as I am
aware) have a 2 following the code - 0113 2??????. 01134 didn't
seem
to exist, or so it seemed from Google.

The same caller tried again, this time said his name and pressed #.
I
accepted the call and from the accent it was probably a call from
either Australia or maybe South Africa. The caller wanted me to
take
a
survey - I will not repeat here what I said to him.



http://www.unknownphone.com/search.php?num=01134196912

Google failed to find that, for some reason. The comments made there,
are similar to what took place. They knew my name.

I disconnected my landline and only use my mobile.

Can't do that here, we don't have naked DSL in my town.

Guess that does mean you wont be moving here any time soon.

I have the line, there's just no phone on it.

OK, so you stated it poorly.

I'm lazy :-P

And we're about to get FTTN/VDSL and that has the landline
bundled with it too, you cant get it without a landline service.

Corse you don't have to plug a phone into it and some of my mates
don't.

Much less nuisance calls,

I get **** all now I'm on our do not call register, maybe one a week
in a bad week. And when one calls me anyway I just tell them that
they arent allowed to call me when its clear who they are, and they
just hang up without saying a word most of the time.

Our service don't work that good.

Plenty claim ours doesn't too.

Pot luck? Who knows. With ours they can still call you if you're a
customer, which seems to be used loosely.

and I can see the number.

I can on the landline too, but that does cost me $5/month.

And still get quite a few with the number suppressed.

I only answer those in my contacts list, or mobile phones (as these
tend
to be actual people),

Mad.

any other landline phoning me I look up first, then dial back.

Too much farting around IMO. I just answer it if I'm not doing
something else and can do that easily and tell them they arent
allowed to call me when its obvious its someone flogging stuff.

I only get the odd one on the mobile, about once every 2 months,

I don't get anything like that many on my mobile,
I might have got one in the whole time I have had
a mobile and that is decades now.

Depends how much you give the number out.

That might well be because our system means that you can't
call mobiles using a voip service for anything like the very low
cost per call that you can when calling landlines tho.

Must be something similar here, as mobiles get far less nuisance calls
than landlines.

usually trying again and again twenty times over a week.

I have had a bit of that, but not with numbers
that high, usually only 1 a day from those.

I've had them calling at 7am, which makes me ****ing mad as I charge the
phone next to my bed.

Sometimes I pick up the phone and yell abuse at them.

I usually abuse the worst of the arseholes that claim to be
calling from Microsoft etc when I've got nothing useful to do
with my time. I mostly just say 'you're lying' and they hang up.

One was Eon energy, which I've never dealt with.

I just had my ISP call me to offer me decent rates on my electricity
and gas and have just changed to them. But that is because I had
been considering shopping around for the best rates for electricity,
I don't have gas, and had decided not to previously because I was
on grandfathered rated because of the political situation here with
the privatisation of the electricity suppliers. He told me about a
very decent govt web site that allows you to compare the rates
for all except what they will pay you to change to them that made
it clear that the grandfathered rates had finished so I got off my
arse and compared them all and discovered that my ISP offers
the best handouts to change to them and close to the best rates
too, so agreed to change to them. I might well keep changing
suppliers at a fast rate to exploit the very competitive situation
here currently now.

I don't need calls to do that, I used a website years ago to select the
cheapest provider for energy.

I gave them a good rant about them ripping people off and didn't let
them
get a word in edgeways.

I bet that saw him hang himself as soon as the call ended.

This did, this is a call left on my answerphone after I abused a BT
Internet employee who called me from Ireland so I mistakenly assumed he
was calling to sell me something:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0m3e8f4qe2...pdesk.mp3?dl=0

And this is a call someone else got from the same company and is all over
the internet:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/keoyw2jlm5...esman.mp3?dl=0

I have had quite a few useful calls over the years, one from the
local cop shop telling me that they had some of my stuff down
the cop shop because they had nabbed some stupid kids who
had been walking around the streets with a wheel barrow, quite
literally, helping themselves to stuff out of any cars they could
get into. I'd been out to a ****up the night before, in the days
before I starting brewing my own and had got a 6 pack from the
local drive thru bottle shop where they had you what you want
thru the passengers front door window and I had managed to
forget to lock that door in the 73 Golf that doesn't have central
locking.

Had someone I know very well manage to get robbed in Egypt
and lost all their cards and cash etc who called me to tell him
which numbers to call to have the cards cancelled too.

I also had that one quite literally ring me from the loony bin to ask
me which region free DVD player his wife should get and bring to
him in the loony bin so he could play his pirated DVDs on it.

Odd.

Very odd indeed that one. Love to have been a fly on the wall in the
court when he was frog marched off to the loony bin. Apparently he
proclaimed to the magistrate that they couldn't frog march him off
to the loony bin because that breached our freedom of religion
provision in our constitution. He initially came completely out of
his tree when a post in one of the online forums ended up with a
message number of 666 and he decided that some god or other
was trying to communicate with him direction and that was the
proof of that.

What was fascinating was how remarkably rational and coherent
he was to talk to even when he had just been frog marched off
to the bin. The DVD player I suggested he get his wife to get has
a surprisingly complicated way of making it region free, so I told
him to call me again when he had it and we'd set it up on the phone.
He managed that fine and was complete coherent all the time.

Got some utterly bizarre ideas, like the EU should be spending
vast sums of money on a military system so that when the US
gets too uppity the EU can **** them over militarily.

Sounds good to me. The US needs to be put in their place.

He converted to islam too

I take it back, he's mad.

and has been proclaiming for more
than a decade that what the world needs is a return to a caliphate.

Love to see his ASIS file. That's our equivalent of your MI5.

He showed up at the chinese embassy and demanded that
they accept him as a political refugee. They called the cops
and he got frog marched off to the loony bin again.

He's got his own web site. Completely barking mad but
surprisingly coherent when raving.

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Chris Green wrote:
James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 18:32:52 -0000, Chris Green wrote:

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 09:30:16 -0000, Chris Green
wrote:

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 21:25:02 -0000, Chris Green
wrote:

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

Google failed to find that, for some reason. The comments
made there, are similar to what took place. They knew my name.

I disconnected my landline and only use my mobile. Much less
nuisance calls, and I can see the number.

Hardly a 'mobile only' facility.

Tends to be. Every single mobile has it, and very few
landphones do.

Hardly 'very few', I think most of the ones that I have access to
have the caller's number available and/or shown. Our DECT phones
are so similar to a mobile that many people forget that they're
*not* mobiles.

Depends what you pay for the phone. I've always just grabbed the
cheapest phone possible, or sometimes gone for a cordless. It's
just a bloody phone, I don't need chrome plated edging.

... and what does your mobile cost?

It was free. My neighbour has one of those expensive contracts which
gives him a new one every couple of years. They don't want the old
one back.

It was free to you, I've acquired all sorts of phones that way but it
doesn't really mean much. A mobile phone is fundamentally a much more
expensive device than a POTS one.

Ignore the troll.

This is:
James Wilkinson.
James Wilkinson Sword.
Peter Hucker.
PHucker.
Mr Macaw.
Tough Guy.
Lieutenant Scot.
Uncle Peter.

On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 22:07:45 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

Chris Green wrote:
James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 18:32:52 -0000, Chris Green wrote:

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 09:30:16 -0000, Chris Green
wrote:

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 21:25:02 -0000, Chris Green
wrote:

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

Google failed to find that, for some reason. The comments
made there, are similar to what took place. They knew my name.

I disconnected my landline and only use my mobile. Much less
nuisance calls, and I can see the number.

Hardly a 'mobile only' facility.

Tends to be. Every single mobile has it, and very few
landphones do.

Hardly 'very few', I think most of the ones that I have access to
have the caller's number available and/or shown. Our DECT phones
are so similar to a mobile that many people forget that they're
*not* mobiles.

Depends what you pay for the phone. I've always just grabbed the
cheapest phone possible, or sometimes gone for a cordless. It's
just a bloody phone, I don't need chrome plated edging.

... and what does your mobile cost?

It was free. My neighbour has one of those expensive contracts which
gives him a new one every couple of years. They don't want the old
one back.

It was free to you, I've acquired all sorts of phones that way but it
doesn't really mean much. A mobile phone is fundamentally a much more
expensive device than a POTS one.

Ignore the troll.

This is:
James Wilkinson.
James Wilkinson Sword.
Peter Hucker.
PHucker.
Mr Macaw.
Tough Guy.
Lieutenant Scot.
Uncle Peter.

PKB.

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Mike smiled and simply replied, "Jessica Simpson's boobs."

On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 16:34:42 +0000, Chris Green wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

My large doctor's surgery contacted me recently about a flue jab.

!! :-)

Perhaps he used to be a Smoker or the latest stop smoking therapy is a
bit more forceful than hypnotism.

G.Harman

On 11/11/2016 18:09, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 10:58:46 -0000, Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:


With BT caller display isn't a standard feature. You have to ask for it
and IIRC pay too.

It's either 50p or £1 a month.


With BT its free if you find the right web page to sign up for it.

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On 11/11/2016 11:37, Brian Gaff wrote:

I'm not getting calls I should because organisations like NHS will just put
the phone down not realising its just screening the call, and they often
display no number either as its through a switchboard. They hence seem to
give up.


Not my experience. The local hospital and doctors surgery have no
problems leaving messages on my answer-phone with trucall/call guardian.




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On 11/11/2016 14:12, Harry Bloomfield wrote:


Which is where giving such organisations a mobile number, as an
alternative, works.

I've changed mobile numbers because I was bombarded with junk calls and
text messages.

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On 11/11/2016 01:55, Rod Speed wrote:

Sure, but it can't get thru again once its in the blacklist.

But the number gets higher priority on the sell on list as one where
someone responds.

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Harry Bloomfield wrote
Brian Gaff wrote

But unless they change their number you zapped him for next time. In fact
the hash idea only stops pre recorded calls, humans can use hash or if
this is switched off, not press it, it matters not.

Well the vaste majority of such callers do use pre-recerded now.

Not here. They mostly do have automated diallers but only
some of the survey operations use pre-recorded here.

The ones that can get through seem to be the ones that change their
number all the time, but at present these are very very rare, as time is
money to these people and for them simply moving on is easier than going
through to you via say name, as they will obviously know what you will do
when they start their pitch.

They don't change actual numbers, they change the spoofed number, the
number presented as caller ID - which takes them seconds to do.

It will be fascinating to watch how long it takes for the automated diallers
to deliberately **** over TruCall so the calls get thru at least to some of
the TruCall users who configure their TruCalls in a particular way.

That is where the system relies on the human factor.
My big issue is this.
I'm not getting calls I should because organisations like NHS will just
put the phone down not realising its just screening the call, and they
often display no number either as its through a switchboard. They hence
seem to give up.

Which is where giving such organisations a mobile number, as an
alternative, works.

In article ,
alan_m wrote:
On 11/11/2016 14:12, Harry Bloomfield wrote:


Which is where giving such organisations a mobile number, as an
alternative, works.

I've changed mobile numbers because I was bombarded with junk calls and
text messages.

I've got Vodaphone PATG, and the numbers of spam calls and texts are much
reduced recently. I don't use the mobile much, and at one time the
majority of calls were spam.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Chris Green" wrote in message
...
James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 09:30:16 -0000, Chris Green wrote:

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 21:25:02 -0000, Chris Green wrote:

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

Google failed to find that, for some reason. The comments made
there,
are similar to what took place. They knew my name.

I disconnected my landline and only use my mobile. Much less
nuisance calls,
and I can see the number.

Hardly a 'mobile only' facility.

Tends to be. Every single mobile has it, and very few landphones do.

Hardly 'very few', I think most of the ones that I have access to have
the caller's number available and/or shown. Our DECT phones are so
similar to a mobile that many people forget that they're *not* mobiles.

Depends what you pay for the phone. I've always just grabbed the cheapest
phone possible, or sometimes gone for a cordless. It's just a bloody
phone,
I don't need chrome plated edging.

... and what does your mobile cost?

Mine averages less than $10 a month and I use it a lot on the garage/yard
sale run.
That is MUCH cheaper than a landline service.

Even an unlimited calls and texts mobile service would only cost me
$25, much cheaper than the cheapest landline service. Mate of mine
who doesnt have DSL has just recently cancelled his landline service
and just has a mobile service and saves quite a bit that way.

"Chris Green" wrote in message
...
James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 18:32:52 -0000, Chris Green wrote:

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 09:30:16 -0000, Chris Green wrote:

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 21:25:02 -0000, Chris Green
wrote:

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

Google failed to find that, for some reason. The comments made
there,
are similar to what took place. They knew my name.

I disconnected my landline and only use my mobile. Much less
nuisance calls,
and I can see the number.

Hardly a 'mobile only' facility.

Tends to be. Every single mobile has it, and very few landphones
do.

Hardly 'very few', I think most of the ones that I have access to
have
the caller's number available and/or shown. Our DECT phones are so
similar to a mobile that many people forget that they're *not*
mobiles.

Depends what you pay for the phone. I've always just grabbed the
cheapest
phone possible, or sometimes gone for a cordless. It's just a bloody
phone,
I don't need chrome plated edging.

... and what does your mobile cost?

It was free. My neighbour has one of those expensive contracts which
gives
him a new one every couple of years. They don't want the old one back.

It was free to you, I've acquired all sorts of phones that way but it
doesn't really mean much. A mobile phone is fundamentally a much more
expensive device than a POTS one.

That is just plain wrong. Ours is in fact substantially cheaper. $25/month
for unlimited calls and texts with mobile, $30/month for the landline with
no calls at all included.

"Chris Green" wrote in message
...
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 11/11/16 18:32, Chris Green wrote:
James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 09:30:16 -0000, Chris Green wrote:

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 21:25:02 -0000, Chris Green wrote:

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

Google failed to find that, for some reason. The comments made
there,
are similar to what took place. They knew my name.

I disconnected my landline and only use my mobile. Much less
nuisance calls,
and I can see the number.

Hardly a 'mobile only' facility.

Tends to be. Every single mobile has it, and very few landphones
do.

Hardly 'very few', I think most of the ones that I have access to
have
the caller's number available and/or shown. Our DECT phones are so
similar to a mobile that many people forget that they're *not*
mobiles.

Depends what you pay for the phone. I've always just grabbed the
cheapest
phone possible, or sometimes gone for a cordless. It's just a bloody
phone,
I don't need chrome plated edging.

.... and what does your mobile cost?

Mine costs nothing., I never use it

No running costs, but the hardware?

None with mine, I just pay for the calls, texts and data I actually use.

"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 18:50:52 -0000, Chris Green wrote:

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 11/11/16 18:32, Chris Green wrote:
James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 09:30:16 -0000, Chris Green wrote:

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 21:25:02 -0000, Chris Green
wrote:

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

Google failed to find that, for some reason. The comments made
there,
are similar to what took place. They knew my name.

I disconnected my landline and only use my mobile. Much less
nuisance calls,
and I can see the number.

Hardly a 'mobile only' facility.

Tends to be. Every single mobile has it, and very few landphones
do.

Hardly 'very few', I think most of the ones that I have access to
have
the caller's number available and/or shown. Our DECT phones are so
similar to a mobile that many people forget that they're *not*
mobiles.

Depends what you pay for the phone. I've always just grabbed the
cheapest
phone possible, or sometimes gone for a cordless. It's just a bloody
phone,
I don't need chrome plated edging.

.... and what does your mobile cost?

Mine costs nothing., I never use it

No running costs, but the hardware?

I've seen basic ones for a tenner in Asda. Including some calls.

We have some that don't cost you anything if you
make no calls, send no texts and use no data, just
receive calls and texts etc.

And mine only costs me an average of $10 a month for all calls, texts
and data I use. Yesterday did 12 calls during the garage sale run and
used quite a bit of data.

alan_m wrote
Rod Speed wrote

Sure, but it can't get thru again once its in the blacklist.

But the number gets higher priority on the sell
on list as one where someone responds.

Sure, but it can't get thru again once its in the blacklist.

On 12/11/2016 22:45, Rod Speed wrote:
alan_m wrote
Rod Speed wrote

Sure, but it can't get thru again once its in the blacklist.

But the number gets higher priority on the sell on list as one where
someone responds.

Sure, but it can't get thru again once its in the blacklist.


You don't know the phone numbers of the companies that the number has
been sold on to so these numbers cannot be put into a black list in advance.

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"alan_m" wrote in message
...
On 12/11/2016 22:45, Rod Speed wrote:
alan_m wrote
Rod Speed wrote

Sure, but it can't get thru again once its in the blacklist.

But the number gets higher priority on the sell on list as one where
someone responds.

Sure, but it can't get thru again once its in the blacklist.


You don't know the phone numbers of the companies that the number has been
sold on to so these numbers cannot be put into a black list in advance.

Sure, but you dont know that that the companys it has been sold on
to will use the same fake caller ID mechanism to get thru his TruCall.

By definition TruCall stops cold callers getting thru, that's the whole
point of it.

So it doesnt matter than they know someone does answer calls that spoof
their
Caller ID well enough.

On Sat, 12 Nov 2016 03:00:58 -0000, alan_m wrote:

On 11/11/2016 18:09, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 10:58:46 -0000, Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:


With BT caller display isn't a standard feature. You have to ask for it
and IIRC pay too.

It's either 50p or £1 a month.


With BT its free if you find the right web page to sign up for it.

With BT you're already paying too much anyway.

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On 12/11/2016 23:51, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:


With BT you're already paying too much anyway.


It depends on how many calls you make on the land-line, and when.



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Rod Speed wrote:

We have some that don't cost you anything if you
make no calls, send no texts and use no data, just
receive calls and texts etc.

.... and cost the *caller* an arm and a leg!

--
Chris Green
·

Chris Green wrote
Rod Speed wrote

We have some that don't cost you anything if you
make no calls, send no texts and use no data, just
receive calls and texts etc.

... and cost the *caller* an arm and a leg!

Nope, free when they have their own mobile service.

And it cost me peanuts to call or text them too.

On Sun, 13 Nov 2016 07:09:53 -0000, alan_m wrote:

On 12/11/2016 23:51, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:


With BT you're already paying too much anyway.


It depends on how many calls you make on the land-line, and when.

Everyone else is cheaper for everything.

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"Is this her first child?" the doctor asked.
"No, you idiot!" the man shouted. "This is her husband!"

On Sat, 12 Nov 2016 20:19:03 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:



"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 18:50:52 -0000, Chris Green wrote:

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 11/11/16 18:32, Chris Green wrote:
James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 09:30:16 -0000, Chris Green wrote:

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 21:25:02 -0000, Chris Green
wrote:

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

Google failed to find that, for some reason. The comments made
there,
are similar to what took place. They knew my name.

I disconnected my landline and only use my mobile. Much less
nuisance calls,
and I can see the number.

Hardly a 'mobile only' facility.

Tends to be. Every single mobile has it, and very few landphones
do.

Hardly 'very few', I think most of the ones that I have access to
have
the caller's number available and/or shown. Our DECT phones are so
similar to a mobile that many people forget that they're *not*
mobiles.

Depends what you pay for the phone. I've always just grabbed the
cheapest
phone possible, or sometimes gone for a cordless. It's just a bloody
phone,
I don't need chrome plated edging.

.... and what does your mobile cost?

Mine costs nothing., I never use it

No running costs, but the hardware?

I've seen basic ones for a tenner in Asda. Including some calls.

We have some that don't cost you anything if you
make no calls, send no texts and use no data, just
receive calls and texts etc.

The hardware is free?!

And mine only costs me an average of $10 a month for all calls, texts
and data I use. Yesterday did 12 calls during the garage sale run and
used quite a bit of data.

I'm on £5 a month for 4 hours of calls and unlimited texts and a load of data I never use. Was 8 for way more calls, but I've stopped using it so much now.

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"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
news
On Sat, 12 Nov 2016 20:19:03 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 18:50:52 -0000, Chris Green wrote:

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 11/11/16 18:32, Chris Green wrote:
James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 09:30:16 -0000, Chris Green
wrote:

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 21:25:02 -0000, Chris Green
wrote:

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

Google failed to find that, for some reason. The comments made
there,
are similar to what took place. They knew my name.

I disconnected my landline and only use my mobile. Much less
nuisance calls,
and I can see the number.

Hardly a 'mobile only' facility.

Tends to be. Every single mobile has it, and very few landphones
do.

Hardly 'very few', I think most of the ones that I have access to
have
the caller's number available and/or shown. Our DECT phones are
so
similar to a mobile that many people forget that they're *not*
mobiles.

Depends what you pay for the phone. I've always just grabbed the
cheapest
phone possible, or sometimes gone for a cordless. It's just a
bloody
phone,
I don't need chrome plated edging.

.... and what does your mobile cost?

Mine costs nothing., I never use it

No running costs, but the hardware?

I've seen basic ones for a tenner in Asda. Including some calls.

We have some that don't cost you anything if you
make no calls, send no texts and use no data, just
receive calls and texts etc.

The hardware is free?!

Not clear if that is a statement about yours that you
got from your neighbour or a question or what.

I in fact gave my Nokia N95 8GB to someone I know, for free.

And mine only costs me an average of $10 a month for all calls, texts and
data I use. Yesterday did 12 calls during the garage sale run and used
quite a bit of data.

I'm on £5 a month for 4 hours of calls and unlimited texts and a load of
data I never use. Was 8 for way more calls, but I've stopped using it so
much now.

I use it a lot on the garage sale run now we
coordinate the openings using mobile phones.

Mate of mine uses his all the time and calls me
for free because we are with the same mobile telco.

On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 19:35:10 -0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 11/11/16 18:50, Chris Green wrote:
A mobile phone is fundamentally a much more
expensive device than a POTS one.

Yep. £12 versus £4 parts cost.

Er.... the monthly payment for the underground cables makes landlines too expensive to bother with.

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On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 12:50:49 -0000, Harry Bloomfield wrote:

Dave Plowman (News) formulated the question :
With BT caller display isn't a standard feature. You have to ask for it
and IIRC pay too.

It was free on Talktalk, you just needed to select it. Now on Plusnet,
they charge us 99p per month for the feature, but it is essential to
allow the Trucall to do its magic.

Talktalk are a lying bunch of ****ing scammers. They promised me half price line rental. I cancelled 1 week later when it appeared they were ****ing lying through their teeth.

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A hooker can wash her crack and sell it again.