In my kitchen I have these large downlighter bulbs which the previous owners
fitted. The thing is, 2 bulbs have gone and I can't get them unscrewed!
There is just so little to get hold of on the bulbs. I have replaced 2
(there are 6 in all) others in the past, but these two just won't undo. They
are R80 60 watt ES type.
PLEASE can anyone help??
Mike

Mike Jones wrote:
In my kitchen I have these large downlighter bulbs which the previous owners
fitted. The thing is, 2 bulbs have gone and I can't get them unscrewed!
There is just so little to get hold of on the bulbs. I have replaced 2
(there are 6 in all) others in the past, but these two just won't undo. They
are R80 60 watt ES type.
PLEASE can anyone help??

Have you tried rubber gloves? You might get more grip that way.

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Yes - no luck with that either.

Have you tried rubber gloves? You might get more grip that way.

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On 25/01/2004 Mike Jones opined:-
In my kitchen I have these large downlighter bulbs which the previous owners
fitted. The thing is, 2 bulbs have gone and I can't get them unscrewed!
There is just so little to get hold of on the bulbs. I have replaced 2
(there are 6 in all) others in the past, but these two just won't undo. They
are R80 60 watt ES type.
PLEASE can anyone help??
Mike

Rubber gloves would give you better grip on the glass. Failing that get
the glass envelope out of the base, either by breaking the adhesive
seal, or by brekaing the glass envelope a bit at a time. A pair of long
nosed pliers will then enable you to clean out all the hard adhesive
away from the metal base and then easily unscrew the metal base. Make
sure the power is off, before attempting this!

When fitting screw type lamps, never tighten them all the way. Enough
to make gentle contact is usually enough and make them easily to
change.

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Subject: Damn downlighters - can't unscrew bulbs!!!
From: Harry Bloomfield
Date: 25/01/2004 18:58 GMT Standard Time
Message-id: k

On 25/01/2004 Mike Jones opined:-
In my kitchen I have these large downlighter bulbs which the previous
owners
fitted. The thing is, 2 bulbs have gone and I can't get them unscrewed!
There is just so little to get hold of on the bulbs. I have replaced 2
(there are 6 in all) others in the past, but these two just won't undo.
They
are R80 60 watt ES type.
PLEASE can anyone help??
Mike

I prosume they are flat faced (or flattish) ones? You can buy a little sucker,
it creates a vacuum when pressed to the bulb and then you can turn the handle
on the sucker and hey presto! Don't wet the sucker as this stops the vacuum and
also makes the sucking bit just spin round on the glass.
You should be able to buy from anywhere you can get the bulbs, Tel

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 18:22:35 GMT, Chris Hodges
wrote:

Mike Jones wrote:
In my kitchen I have these large downlighter bulbs which the previous owners
fitted. The thing is, 2 bulbs have gone and I can't get them unscrewed!
There is just so little to get hold of on the bulbs. I have replaced 2
(there are 6 in all) others in the past, but these two just won't undo. They
are R80 60 watt ES type.
PLEASE can anyone help??

Have you tried rubber gloves? You might get more grip that way.


These fittings are usually sprung into the ceiling ope. See if you can
pop the fitting out and then remove the bulb.

Some fittings appear to be more prone to this problem than others.

Paul Mc Cann

"take away nojunk" wrote in message
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Subject: Damn downlighters - can't unscrew bulbs!!!
From: Harry Bloomfield
Date: 25/01/2004 18:58 GMT Standard Time
Message-id: k


I prosume they are flat faced (or flattish) ones? You can buy a little
sucker,
it creates a vacuum when pressed to the bulb and then you can turn the
handle
on the sucker and hey presto! Don't wet the sucker as this stops the
vacuum and
also makes the sucking bit just spin round on the glass.
You should be able to buy from anywhere you can get the bulbs, Tel

I was going to give a very simialar reply. I use a cylinder head valve
grinding sucker. Works every time.

Xenon

"Mike Jones" wrote in message
...
In my kitchen I have these large downlighter bulbs which the previous
owners
fitted. The thing is, 2 bulbs have gone and I can't get them unscrewed!
There is just so little to get hold of on the bulbs. I have replaced 2
(there are 6 in all) others in the past, but these two just won't undo.
They
are R80 60 watt ES type.
PLEASE can anyone help??
Mike

We have a similar problem in our kitchen...

I find, if you wobble to bulbs from side to sides a bit, it tends to free
them up.
(This is of course assuming you can wobble them in their fitting - mine have
a plastic insert that can be removed for bulb replacement)

Sparks...

Xenon wrote:

"take away nojunk" wrote in message
...
Subject: Damn downlighters - can't unscrew bulbs!!!
From: Harry Bloomfield
Date: 25/01/2004 18:58 GMT Standard Time
Message-id: k


I prosume they are flat faced (or flattish) ones? You can buy a little
sucker,
it creates a vacuum when pressed to the bulb and then you can turn the
handle
on the sucker and hey presto! Don't wet the sucker as this stops the
vacuum and
also makes the sucking bit just spin round on the glass.
You should be able to buy from anywhere you can get the bulbs, Tel

I was going to give a very simialar reply. I use a cylinder head valve
grinding sucker. Works every time.


Blu-Tak. Work a good sized piece of it in your fingers to soften it then
spread it out over the face of the bulb (1-1.5" dia.) leaving a fair
sized lump in the centre that you can grip with your fingers. Never
failed to get a bulb out using it yet.

What ever you use, make sure the bulb is clean first; IME bulbs in the
kitchen get a film of grease on them and those in the bathroom get a
layer of dust.

Xenon

Thanks for your help and advice - I smashed the lamps and sorted it that
way!
Unfortunately one now doesn't work so I guess I'll remove the fiting and
test it if a new bulb doesn't work either. Tedious!

Mike


"Sparks" wrote in message
...
"Mike Jones" wrote in message
...
In my kitchen I have these large downlighter bulbs which the previous
owners
fitted. The thing is, 2 bulbs have gone and I can't get them unscrewed!
There is just so little to get hold of on the bulbs. I have replaced 2
(there are 6 in all) others in the past, but these two just won't undo.
They
are R80 60 watt ES type.
PLEASE can anyone help??
Mike

We have a similar problem in our kitchen...

I find, if you wobble to bulbs from side to sides a bit, it tends to free
them up.
(This is of course assuming you can wobble them in their fitting - mine
have
a plastic insert that can be removed for bulb replacement)

Sparks...

Harry Bloomfield retched Damn downlighters - can't unscrew bulbs!!! onto
my recliner:

On 25/01/2004 Mike Jones opined:-
In my kitchen I have these large downlighter bulbs which the previous owners
fitted. The thing is, 2 bulbs have gone and I can't get them unscrewed!
There is just so little to get hold of on the bulbs. I have replaced 2
(there are 6 in all) others in the past, but these two just won't undo. They
are R80 60 watt ES type.
PLEASE can anyone help??
Mike

Rubber gloves would give you better grip on the glass.


I thought you'd given up stalking, Harry?


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"Mike Jones" wrote in message
...
Thanks for your help and advice - I smashed the lamps and sorted it that
way!
Unfortunately one now doesn't work so I guess I'll remove the fiting and
test it if a new bulb doesn't work either. Tedious!

The impact might have pushed back the centre contact
a bit - power down & pull it up a bit.

"Combine Harvesters are EVil" wrote in message
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Harry Bloomfield retched Damn downlighters - can't unscrew bulbs!!! onto
my recliner:

On 25/01/2004 Mike Jones opined:-
In my kitchen I have these large downlighter bulbs which the previous
owners
fitted. The thing is, 2 bulbs have gone and I can't get them unscrewed!
There is just so little to get hold of on the bulbs. I have replaced 2
(there are 6 in all) others in the past, but these two just won't undo.
They
are R80 60 watt ES type.
PLEASE can anyone help??
Mike

Get yourself a suction hook from a kitchen/hardware shop. Ideal for hanging
things (without screwing holes in cabinets\walls etc) but made for the job
of removing these light bulbs.

"Sparks" wrote in message . ..
"Mike Jones" wrote in message
...
In my kitchen I have these large downlighter bulbs which the previous
owners
fitted. The thing is, 2 bulbs have gone and I can't get them unscrewed!
There is just so little to get hold of on the bulbs. I have replaced 2
(there are 6 in all) others in the past, but these two just won't undo.
They
are R80 60 watt ES type.
PLEASE can anyone help??
Mike

the fatherof a friend of mmine came up with an ingenious idea of
putting super glue on the tips of his fingers and glueing them to the
bulb, apparently it worked but he does have trouble driving a car now

"neil" wrote in message
om...
"Sparks" wrote in message
. ..
"Mike Jones" wrote in message
...
In my kitchen I have these large downlighter bulbs which the previous
owners
fitted. The thing is, 2 bulbs have gone and I can't get them
unscrewed!
There is just so little to get hold of on the bulbs. I have replaced 2
(there are 6 in all) others in the past, but these two just won't
undo.
They
are R80 60 watt ES type.
PLEASE can anyone help??
Mike

the fatherof a friend of mmine came up with an ingenious idea of
putting super glue on the tips of his fingers and glueing them to the
bulb, apparently it worked but he does have trouble driving a car now


SuperGlue damages the skin by extracting the fat from it, so please don't
try this one at home, unless you're a trained professional (or loon).

SuperGlue damages the skin by extracting the fat from it, so please
don't try this one at home, unless you're a trained professional (or
loon).

Tell me about it. My wife managed to squirt half a (small) bottle of the
stuff into my eye when gluing her nails on. Shat myself? Too right. My last
vision was of the dozens of globules headed in my direction before casualty
got my eyes open again. It was a great shot, though, from around 2 feet
away.

Christian.

"Chris Oates" none wrote in message
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"Mike Jones" wrote in message
...
Thanks for your help and advice - I smashed the lamps and sorted it that
way!
Unfortunately one now doesn't work so I guess I'll remove the fiting and
test it if a new bulb doesn't work either. Tedious!

The impact might have pushed back the centre contact
a bit - power down & pull it up a bit.


Have a look for a blob of black cack on the contact too - it's fairly common
and flicks off with a screwdriver.
Richard

There's a trick to removing downlighter bulbs. Electricians use a
rubber sucker. I complained to my installer and he provided me with
one. Works OK once you get the hang of making a decent contact.
Guessing, you can buy one at an electrical supplier. Maybe a glass
supplier. Hope this works.

John


On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 23:18:39 -0000, "Mike Jones"
wrote:

Thanks for your help and advice - I smashed the lamps and sorted it that
way!
Unfortunately one now doesn't work so I guess I'll remove the fiting and
test it if a new bulb doesn't work either. Tedious!

Mike


"Sparks" wrote in message
.. .
"Mike Jones" wrote in message
...
In my kitchen I have these large downlighter bulbs which the previous
owners
fitted. The thing is, 2 bulbs have gone and I can't get them unscrewed!
There is just so little to get hold of on the bulbs. I have replaced 2
(there are 6 in all) others in the past, but these two just won't undo.
They
are R80 60 watt ES type.
PLEASE can anyone help??
Mike

We have a similar problem in our kitchen...

I find, if you wobble to bulbs from side to sides a bit, it tends to free
them up.
(This is of course assuming you can wobble them in their fitting - mine
have
a plastic insert that can be removed for bulb replacement)

Sparks...