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Hi all,
I bought an extractor fan and have since build it into the wall and now I must wire it up to the light. Is there any pitfalls/ advice to look out for? It's the type that comes on when the light is switched on. Thanks |
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igloo wrote:
Hi all, I bought an extractor fan and have since build it into the wall and now I must wire it up to the light. Is there any pitfalls/ advice to look out for? It's the type that comes on when the light is switched on. Thanks It will need a 4 core cable. Earth, live, switched-live and neutral wired to the ceiling rose. Strictly speaking you should wire it through a double pole fused connection unit but many people do not seem to bother with this... |
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BillR scribbled :
It will need a 4 core cable. Earth, live, switched-live and neutral wired to the ceiling rose. Strictly speaking you should wire it through a double pole fused connection unit but many people do not seem to bother with this... I always use a triple pole switch which is specifically for fans. You need to isolate the L, N and SL. If you use a double pole fused connection unit then the outgoing load should also feed the light in the same room as the fan so when you isolate it the light cannot be switched on causing the Switched Live to become live at the fan. -- Gary Please remove #NOSPAM# if replying via email |
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Gary wrote:
BillR scribbled : It will need a 4 core cable. Earth, live, switched-live and neutral wired to the ceiling rose. Strictly speaking you should wire it through a double pole fused connection unit but many people do not seem to bother with this... I always use a triple pole switch which is specifically for fans. You need to isolate the L, N and SL. If you use a double pole fused connection unit then the outgoing load should also feed the light in the same room as the fan so when you isolate it the light cannot be switched on causing the Switched Live to become live at the fan. You're right, it should be a triple pole switch. Big ugly things they are too and they don't seem to match normal light switches... |
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BillR wrote:
Gary wrote: BillR scribbled : It will need a 4 core cable. Earth, live, switched-live and neutral wired to the ceiling rose. Strictly speaking you should wire it through a double pole fused connection unit but many people do not seem to bother with this... I always use a triple pole switch which is specifically for fans. You need to isolate the L, N and SL. If you use a double pole fused connection unit then the outgoing load should also feed the light in the same room as the fan so when you isolate it the light cannot be switched on causing the Switched Live to become live at the fan. You're right, it should be a triple pole switch. Big ugly things they are too and they don't seem to match normal light switches... Oh? I found nice brass ones with fuses that EXACtLY match the light switches. |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote:
BillR wrote: Gary wrote: BillR scribbled : It will need a 4 core cable. Earth, live, switched-live and neutral wired to the ceiling rose. Strictly speaking you should wire it through a double pole fused connection unit but many people do not seem to bother with this... I always use a triple pole switch which is specifically for fans. You need to isolate the L, N and SL. If you use a double pole fused connection unit then the outgoing load should also feed the light in the same room as the fan so when you isolate it the light cannot be switched on causing the Switched Live to become live at the fan. You're right, it should be a triple pole switch. Big ugly things they are too and they don't seem to match normal light switches... Oh? I found nice brass ones with fuses that EXACtLY match the light switches. Fine if you've got brass light switches... |
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"BillR" writes: You're right, it should be a triple pole switch. Big ugly things they are too and they don't seem to match normal light switches... They're usually a triple light switch, but with a large rocker jammed onto all the actuators. -- Andrew Gabriel |
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Andrew Gabriel scribbled :
They're usually a triple light switch, but with a large rocker jammed onto all the actuators. And normally mounted at high level so an exact match with a light switch will not become an issue. -- Gary Please remove #NOSPAM# if replying via email |
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![]() "BillR" wrote in message ... igloo wrote: Hi all, I bought an extractor fan and have since build it into the wall and now I must wire it up to the light. Is there any pitfalls/ advice to look out for? It's the type that comes on when the light is switched on. Thanks It will need a 4 core cable. Earth, live, switched-live and neutral wired to the ceiling rose. Strictly speaking you should wire it through a double pole fused connection unit but many people do not seem to bother with this... The fan will only require 4 core (1mm2 3 core and earth) if the fan is a timer over run version. Use 3 core (or 2 core 1mm2 T&E if it has no timer overrun)The cable should pass through a triple pole isolator to do this properly on a timer overrun version. If the fan has no timer then the cable may go through a double pole switch or double pole fused connection unit -- Adam |
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"igloo" wrote
| Gulp. I'll get an electrician! No, you get (assuming it's a timer over run fan) a length of triple-and-earth cable and a triple-pole fan isolator switch (which are readily available in the sheds). (Switch off at the mains first, usual disclaimers etc.) Take the cable from the light to the isolator switch location and then from the switch to the fan. The switch needs to be out of reach of the bath or shower - google Bathroom Zones for more info. At the light, terminate red on the Permanent Live (this will probably already have 3 reds on it, 2 for the lighting loop and 1 for the switch feed). Terminate yellow on the Switched Live (this may be a single red for the switch return, or a black with a red sleeve, or just a black, but will connect to one side of the bulb). Treminate the blue on the Neutral (this will probably already have 2 blacks on it for the lighting loop, and connect to the other side of the bulb). At the switch, just match up the red yellow blue on the supply side of the switch to red yellow blue on the load side. At the fan, terminate red on L, blue on N, and yellow on the teminal probably marked Trigger. All earths need green/yellow sleeving and to be connected up even if the fan is double insulated. Owain |
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