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I added TRVs this weekend and the week before replaced the boiler
thermostat. Since doing this I've noticed that the downstairs is not as hot as it used to be - even with the TRV heads off. I've also noticed a lot of boiler cycling (old Baxi WM 531 RS boiler). Previously the living room (large room with 2 radiators) used to get quite hot with the heating on - now it gets warm, but not warm enough really. I've tried rebalancing (which previously got the downstairs nice and toasty) but that doesn't appear to make a significant difference. I did struggle to get much of a temperature drop on some radiators - some only had as little as a 3 degree drop with just a 1/8's of a turn on with the lockshield. The highest drop appeared to be on the largest (and furthest radiator which isn't getting quite as hot) which was 20. The majority of the rest were about 5-8 degree drop. The pump (UPS 15-50) is running on its slowest speed and always has done. Anything more than this and there's a noticeable noise from the pump/pipework. I did a test last night and increasing the pump speed altered the boiler cycling times only slightly (5 seconds different) and failed to make any difference to the temperature of the pipes to the largest downstairs radiator. Specifically, with the boiler thermostat set to 3 (with 5 being highest) the boiler would heat the water for Boiler thermostat setting Pump setting Time boiler on Time boiler off Pipe therm 1 Pipe therm 2 3 1 1 min 35 secs 1 min 45 secs 50 30 5 1 2 min 25 secs 1 min 20 secs 50 30 3 3 1 min 40 secs 1 min 45 secs 50 30 The pipe thermometer readings were from the large (9') radiator which was the one which got cold when it wasn't balanced properly. As you can see, the boiler is cycling about every 2 minutes and changing the pump speed made little difference. The radiators closest to the boiler do get hot and the downstairs radiators don't get as hot, but are hot. I've got a thermometer (built into a small travel clock) and I've yet to make the temperature in the living room more than 20.5 even though I've set the wall stat in the hall to anything up to 25. Note, I did these checks with the TRV heads off - so they're not restricting the flow and I got the same reading with both TRV's set to 5 (the highest on the Pegler Terrier II). I'm sure the cycling times dropped when I changed the boiler thermostat, but I'm confused that increasing the pump speed makes little difference. What sort of noise would you expect from my pump on speed 3? The pump is very quiet on speed 1 but becomes quite noisy on speed 3 (and its about 3" away from a bed in a spare room - so I don't want to it be too noisy). I've checked that the system has been bled properly including the pump. I'm going to continue tweaking the balancing of the radiators - but I'm puzzled that it used to get uncomfortably hot but now it doesn't even when the TRV's are off and that the pump speed makes little difference to the temperature and boiler cycling. Any ideas? Thanks David -- To send email to me - remove references to NoSpam, and Spammer from my email address. |
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