Is there a reliable way to kill brambles that are growing close to stuff
you don't want to kill? We seem to have loads of the things growing in
shrubs, flower beads, and around trees etc.


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On 06/07/16 10:51, John Rumm wrote:

Is there a reliable way to kill brambles that are growing close to stuff
you don't want to kill? We seem to have loads of the things growing in
shrubs, flower beads, and around trees etc.


paint them with undiluted glyphosate carefully


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The Natural Philosopher wrote:

John Rumm wrote:

Is there a reliable way to kill brambles that are growing close to stuff
you don't want to kill?

paint them with undiluted glyphosate carefully

Or some Root Out coughcompost accelerator/cough I used to find that
pretty good on brambles, but I just sprayed it as nothing nearby I cared
about.

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John Rumm wrote:

Is there a reliable way to kill brambles that are growing close to stuff
you don't want to kill? We seem to have loads of the things growing in
shrubs, flower beads, and around trees etc.

If only. ;-) I'll be looking at any answers avidly.

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On 06/07/16 11:12, Andy Burns wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:

John Rumm wrote:

Is there a reliable way to kill brambles that are growing close to stuff
you don't want to kill?

paint them with undiluted glyphosate carefully

Or some Root Out coughcompost accelerator/cough I used to find that
pretty good on brambles, but I just sprayed it as nothing nearby I cared
about.

I used massive glyphosate doses and killed a HUGE bramble patch after
years of failing to get it sorted


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On 06/07/2016 10:51, John Rumm wrote:

Is there a reliable way to kill brambles that are growing close to stuff
you don't want to kill? We seem to have loads of the things growing in
shrubs, flower beads, and around trees etc.



*****

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On 06/07/16 10:51, John Rumm wrote:

Is there a reliable way to kill brambles that are growing close to stuff
you don't want to kill? We seem to have loads of the things growing in
shrubs, flower beads, and around trees etc.


paint them with undiluted glyphosate carefully



Mmm undiluted glyphosate mainly burns & kills leaves but doesn't
reliably get translocated to the roots to kill the whole
plant.

Brambles are an easy kill w normal diluted glyphosate.

In the OPs position and if the targets are intertwined with the
keepers, I would cut the brambles back, wait for regrowth, put a
plastic pop bottle with bottom cut off over each bramble sprout,
let em grow a bit, then put the end of the glyphosate sprayer in
through the neck of the bottle and douse the buggers! Repeat as
necessary - probably twice.

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On 06/07/2016 10:51, John Rumm wrote:

Is there a reliable way to kill brambles that are growing close to stuff
you don't want to kill? We seem to have loads of the things growing in
shrubs, flower beads, and around trees etc.


Cut back to almost soil level and put crystals of root out on the
freshly cut surface. Cove with gaffer tape/plastic so that the root out
is not washed away and can compost the roots 'in situ'

Merthod is very effective against other garden pests such as Ivy

Malcolm

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Is there a reliable way to kill brambles that are growing close to stuff
you don't want to kill? We seem to have loads of the things growing in
shrubs, flower beads, and around trees etc.

As TNP says, glyphosate painted on with a brush so as not to get it on
adjacent plants, although I wouldn't use it neat. I would cut them
back to near ground level, and wait until some nice juicy fresh green
shoots appear, then zap them with ordinary strength glyphosate with a
trigger hand spray to keep the spray localised.

Think you'll find that will kill the bits that show - but not the root
structure. Which will spread and just appear eleswhere.

Or rather that's what I've found.

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On 06/07/2016 11:55, GB wrote:
On 06/07/2016 10:51, John Rumm wrote:

Is there a reliable way to kill brambles that are growing close to stuff
you don't want to kill? We seem to have loads of the things growing in
shrubs, flower beads, and around trees etc.



*****

Five stars for asking a question about DIY. First one today!


No, ********! It's gardening! We DIYers don't have time for gardening;
we get a man in.

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In article , John
Rumm scribeth thus

Is there a reliable way to kill brambles that are growing close to stuff
you don't want to kill? We seem to have loads of the things growing in
shrubs, flower beads, and around trees etc.



We had an infestation of these bloody things over at a friends farm a
mini digger saw them off into a large pile which as soon as their dried
out will be burnt!.

Seems they haven't come back as yet its now some months ago perhaps not
what the OP wanted to know but there was a lot satisfaction seeing them
destroyed

After all very few plants attack you like those poxy things do..
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Not sure how the heck you can find out which is a new plant and which is
just a runner from another one. Armour plated gloves needed.
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On 06/07/16 10:51, John Rumm wrote:

Is there a reliable way to kill brambles that are growing close to stuff
you don't want to kill? We seem to have loads of the things growing in
shrubs, flower beads, and around trees etc.


paint them with undiluted glyphosate carefully


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Hmm sounds a bit difficult. By the time I'd have done this I'd be dead from
blood loss or some infection of open wounds. I need a robot!
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On 06/07/16 10:51, John Rumm wrote:

Is there a reliable way to kill brambles that are growing close to stuff
you don't want to kill? We seem to have loads of the things growing in
shrubs, flower beads, and around trees etc.


paint them with undiluted glyphosate carefully



Mmm undiluted glyphosate mainly burns & kills leaves but doesn't
reliably get translocated to the roots to kill the whole
plant.

Brambles are an easy kill w normal diluted glyphosate.

In the OPs position and if the targets are intertwined with the
keepers, I would cut the brambles back, wait for regrowth, put a
plastic pop bottle with bottom cut off over each bramble sprout,
let em grow a bit, then put the end of the glyphosate sprayer in
through the neck of the bottle and douse the buggers! Repeat as
necessary - probably twice.

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In article ,
Chris Hogg wrote:
Is there a reliable way to kill brambles that are growing close to stuff
you don't want to kill? We seem to have loads of the things growing in
shrubs, flower beads, and around trees etc.

As TNP says, glyphosate painted on with a brush so as not to get it on
adjacent plants, although I wouldn't use it neat. I would cut them
back to near ground level, and wait until some nice juicy fresh green
shoots appear, then zap them with ordinary strength glyphosate with a
trigger hand spray to keep the spray localised.

Think you'll find that will kill the bits that show - but not the root
structure. Which will spread and just appear eleswhere.

Or rather that's what I've found.



Running over them with my 5 foot flail mower knocks them back pretty
effectively

I have a triangle of perhaps 1/2 acre at the end of my field that was
completely over grown with them. A combination of reaching over into them
with my 4 foot hedge flail on the Ford 4610 tractor and pulverising them,
then going over several times with the 5 foot grass flail on the Ford 4000
set to about 3" reduced them to pulp. The grass grew through, and several
subsequent flail mowings has produced some almost decent grazing for the
sheep

Andrew

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tony sayer wrote:
In article , John
Rumm scribeth thus

Is there a reliable way to kill brambles that are growing close to stuff
you don't want to kill? We seem to have loads of the things growing in
shrubs, flower beads, and around trees etc.



We had an infestation of these bloody things over at a friends farm a
mini digger saw them off into a large pile which as soon as their dried
out will be burnt!.

If you can dig them - and all their roots and runners up - you might be
OK. But that's not an option in most mature gardens.

Seems they haven't come back as yet its now some months ago perhaps not
what the OP wanted to know but there was a lot satisfaction seeing them
destroyed

Months? Mine took a couple of years or more to show again - after thinking
they'd all been dug out during a total refurkle of the (small) garden. And
they've now appeared in several places that they weren't originally.

After all very few plants attack you like those poxy things do..

Very true. The odd thing is that when there was a bush in the garden -
which produced lovely fruit - it seemed to stay rather more contained.

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On Wednesday, 6 July 2016 10:51:12 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
Is there a reliable way to kill brambles that are growing close to stuff
you don't want to kill? We seem to have loads of the things growing in
shrubs, flower beads, and around trees etc.

If you have a real infestation it might be easier to lift the valued plants, then flamegun and rotavate the beds.

If the valued plants have then died it will be easier to convince Mrs Rumm that she doesn't really want any more beds and that some concrete paths will look nice round the perimeter of the lawn as well as being somewhere handy to put the workmate on a sunny day.

Owain

On Wed, 6 Jul 2016 10:51:16 +0100
John Rumm wrote:


Is there a reliable way to kill brambles that are growing close to
stuff you don't want to kill? We seem to have loads of the things
growing in shrubs, flower beads, and around trees etc.



You could rent some goats:

http://modernfarmer.com/2013/09/get-goat-weed-garden/

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On 06/07/16 15:10, Brian Gaff wrote:
Not sure how the heck you can find out which is a new plant and which is
just a runner from another one. Armour plated gloves needed.
Brian

Look this is so much easier.

You paint the leaves. Preferably the underside.
It doesn't have to be new growth, though it helps. It will poison the
whole plant.

No need to do anything. Just OD the ****er with glyphosate, and wait.



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On Wednesday, 6 July 2016 14:32:42 UTC+1, Bill Wright wrote:
On 06/07/2016 11:55, GB wrote:
On 06/07/2016 10:51, John Rumm wrote:

Is there a reliable way to kill brambles that are growing close to stuff
you don't want to kill? We seem to have loads of the things growing in
shrubs, flower beads, and around trees etc.



*****

Five stars for asking a question about DIY. First one today!


No, ********! It's gardening! We DIYers don't have time for gardening;
we get a man in.


oi sexist lucky you don;t work here, we have commitees and groups that will, spend hours and hours in metting about such things, byt they won't let a women carry a parecel only post. :-)

Andrew Mawson wrote:

Running over them with my 5 foot flail mower knocks them back pretty
effectively

A combination of reaching over into them
with my 4 foot hedge flail on the Ford 4610 tractor and pulverising them,
then going over several times with the 5 foot grass flail on the Ford 4000
set to about 3" reduced them to pulp.

Quite a shopping list for the OP. ;-)

Point taken though.

Chris
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Plant amazing Acers.

In article ,
Chris Hogg wrote:
Think you'll find that will kill the bits that show - but not the root
structure. Which will spread and just appear eleswhere.

Or rather that's what I've found.

Hmm...perhaps your glyphosate solution was too strong and burnt off
the tops before it got translocated to the roots. AFAIK bramble roots
don't spread by suckers in the way you describe. New growth comes from
the central point where the stem emerges from the soil, but I am open
to correction on that.

Could be - I'm no gardener. Original brown fingers. But when I do pull out
one which has appeared from nowhere, the roots seem to run back a long
long way

Our garden is surrounded by fields, whose hedges are full of brambles
which are a plentiful source of blackberries in late summer, both for
us and the birds. Bird droppings at around that time are always purple
and full of blackberry seeds, which germinate freely all over my
garden :-( . As a result, I'm for ever pulling out seedling brambles
and bigger. I wonder if the brambles that you think come from roots of
plants that haven't been fully killed off by glyphosate aren't in fact
simply seedlings from similar bird droppings.

I don't think they're terribly popular in this part of London with small
gardens - but of course will have a presence on railway embankments, etc.
Fields are something we just see on TV. ;-)

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In article ,
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Chris Hogg wrote:
Think you'll find that will kill the bits that show - but not the root
structure. Which will spread and just appear eleswhere.

Or rather that's what I've found.

Hmm...perhaps your glyphosate solution was too strong and burnt off
the tops before it got translocated to the roots. AFAIK bramble roots
don't spread by suckers in the way you describe. New growth comes from
the central point where the stem emerges from the soil, but I am open
to correction on that.

Could be - I'm no gardener. Original brown fingers. But when I do pull out
one which has appeared from nowhere, the roots seem to run back a long
long way

Our garden is surrounded by fields, whose hedges are full of brambles
which are a plentiful source of blackberries in late summer, both for
us and the birds. Bird droppings at around that time are always purple
and full of blackberry seeds, which germinate freely all over my
garden :-( . As a result, I'm for ever pulling out seedling brambles
and bigger. I wonder if the brambles that you think come from roots of
plants that haven't been fully killed off by glyphosate aren't in fact
simply seedlings from similar bird droppings.

I don't think they're terribly popular in this part of London with small
gardens - but of course will have a presence on railway embankments, etc.
Fields are something we just see on TV. ;-)

Brambles on railway embankments were much better when the on-train toilet
deposited its contents on the track ;-)

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On 06/07/2016 16:31, Chris J Dixon wrote:
Andrew Mawson wrote:

Running over them with my 5 foot flail mower knocks them back pretty
effectively

A combination of reaching over into them
with my 4 foot hedge flail on the Ford 4610 tractor and pulverising them,
then going over several times with the 5 foot grass flail on the Ford 4000
set to about 3" reduced them to pulp.

Quite a shopping list for the OP. ;-)

Yeah, but then again, I don't need much of an excuse for a new tool ;-)


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On 06/07/2016 11:36, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jul 2016 10:51:16 +0100, John Rumm
wrote:


Is there a reliable way to kill brambles that are growing close to stuff
you don't want to kill? We seem to have loads of the things growing in
shrubs, flower beads, and around trees etc.

As TNP says, glyphosate painted on with a brush so as not to get it on
adjacent plants, although I wouldn't use it neat. I would cut them
back to near ground level, and wait until some nice juicy fresh green
shoots appear, then zap them with ordinary strength glyphosate with a
trigger hand spray to keep the spray localised.

An approach often suggested if painting isn't an option is the 'wetted
sock' method. Make up your glyphosate solution; get a pair of rubber
gloves, Marigold or latex, whatever, and an old woollen sock. Pull the
sock over a gloved hand, dip in the glyphosate, and then run said
gloved hand all over the stem and leaves of the offending plant.

There is no way I am running my hand over those buggers! They have
killed more decent gloves than anything else.

I shall try the paint on idea...

Can one thicken glyphosphate with anything to make it more "topical"?

(I have the normal gallup 360 concentrate)

I try if I can to get to the roots and dig/pull them out. Usually not
too difficult. Dig around the stem where it emerges from the soil with
a hand fork, just to loosen the soil. Then work your hand into the
soil and under the point where the roots spread out from the stem, and
heave! In almost all cases, the stem together with attached roots will
rip out. If you just pull the stem off the roots, they will shoot
again so you do need to get stem and roots out together, like this guy
has done http://tinyurl.com/zossno2 . Leaving a few lateral roots
behind doesn't matter, as long as you get the primary root out.

Yup, the problem there is getting to anywhere near the root in the first
place.


More stuff here http://tinyurl.com/z4o46o3

ok, ta.


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On 06/07/2016 14:07, Huge wrote:
On 2016-07-06, John Rumm wrote:

Is there a reliable way to kill brambles that are growing close to stuff
you don't want to kill? We seem to have loads of the things growing in
shrubs, flower beads, and around trees etc.

Glyphosate gel (make it yourself with wallpaper paste. Use it up, it doesn't
keep). Put on a heavy rubber glove, then a cotton glove over that. Dip
the gloved hand in the gel, then fondle the plants you want to kill.

Ah, ok that answers my question on thickening...


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On 06/07/2016 14:40, tony sayer wrote:
In article , John
Rumm scribeth thus

Is there a reliable way to kill brambles that are growing close to stuff
you don't want to kill? We seem to have loads of the things growing in
shrubs, flower beads, and around trees etc.



We had an infestation of these bloody things over at a friends farm a
mini digger saw them off into a large pile which as soon as their dried
out will be burnt!.

Seems they haven't come back as yet its now some months ago perhaps not
what the OP wanted to know but there was a lot satisfaction seeing them
destroyed

After all very few plants attack you like those poxy things do..

I find when dealing with the huge long stems, the safest way is to cut
off, and feed it direct into a shredder before it gets a chance to
return the favour!


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On 06/07/2016 15:24, wrote:
On Wednesday, 6 July 2016 10:51:12 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
Is there a reliable way to kill brambles that are growing close to
stuff you don't want to kill? We seem to have loads of the things
growing in shrubs, flower beads, and around trees etc.

If you have a real infestation it might be easier to lift the valued
plants, then flamegun and rotavate the beds.

If the valued plants have then died it will be easier to convince Mrs
Rumm that she doesn't really want any more beds and that some
concrete paths will look nice round the perimeter of the lawn as well
as being somewhere handy to put the workmate on a sunny day.

;-)

They tend to be most irksome when immersed in already established and
sizeable shrubs. (or poking out of bushes, waiting for something soft
and squishy to drive past on a mower!)


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Davey Wrote in message:
On Wed, 6 Jul 2016 10:51:16 +0100
John Rumm wrote:


Is there a reliable way to kill brambles that are growing close to
stuff you don't want to kill? We seem to have loads of the things
growing in shrubs, flower beads, and around trees etc.



You could rent some goats:

http://modernfarmer.com/2013/09/get-goat-weed-garden/


Er they eat ANYthing don't they? Including the keepers....

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"Chris J Dixon" wrote in message
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Andrew Mawson wrote:

Running over them with my 5 foot flail mower knocks them back pretty
effectively

A combination of reaching over into them
with my 4 foot hedge flail on the Ford 4610 tractor and pulverising them,
then going over several times with the 5 foot grass flail on the Ford 4000
set to about 3" reduced them to pulp.

Quite a shopping list for the OP. ;-)

Point taken though.

Chris

On a lesser scale, I use a hedge trimmer, then a Flymo. When the brambles
regrow, they can be individually picked off or pulled out.
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On Wed, 6 Jul 2016 18:59:43 +0100 (GMT+01:00)
jim k wrote:

Davey Wrote in message:
On Wed, 6 Jul 2016 10:51:16 +0100
John Rumm wrote:


Is there a reliable way to kill brambles that are growing close to
stuff you don't want to kill? We seem to have loads of the things
growing in shrubs, flower beads, and around trees etc.



You could rent some goats:

http://modernfarmer.com/2013/09/get-goat-weed-garden/


Er they eat ANYthing don't they? Including the keepers....


Only if parboiled with a little salt and pepper.

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Davey Wrote in message:
On Wed, 6 Jul 2016 10:51:16 +0100
John Rumm wrote:


Is there a reliable way to kill brambles that are growing close to
stuff you don't want to kill? We seem to have loads of the things
growing in shrubs, flower beads, and around trees etc.



You could rent some goats:

http://modernfarmer.com/2013/09/get-goat-weed-garden/


Er they eat ANYthing don't they? Including the keepers....

Nar, that's pigs and the keeper's children.

Davey Wrote in message:
On Wed, 6 Jul 2016 18:59:43 +0100 (GMT+01:00)
jim k wrote:

Davey Wrote in message:
On Wed, 6 Jul 2016 10:51:16 +0100
John Rumm wrote:


Is there a reliable way to kill brambles that are growing close to
stuff you don't want to kill? We seem to have loads of the things
growing in shrubs, flower beads, and around trees etc.



You could rent some goats:

http://modernfarmer.com/2013/09/get-goat-weed-garden/


Er they eat ANYthing don't they? Including the keepers....


Only if parboiled with a little salt and pepper.


You sure that's a goat you got there?
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"jim" k wrote in message
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Davey Wrote in message:
On Wed, 6 Jul 2016 10:51:16 +0100
John Rumm wrote:


Is there a reliable way to kill brambles that are growing close to
stuff you don't want to kill? We seem to have loads of the things
growing in shrubs, flower beads, and around trees etc.



You could rent some goats:

http://modernfarmer.com/2013/09/get-goat-weed-garden/


Er they eat ANYthing don't they? Including the keepers....

Nar, that's pigs and the keeper's children.



Er... plants you want to keep....

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On 06/07/2016 20:20, Huge wrote:
On 2016-07-06, John Rumm wrote:

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Can one thicken glyphosphate with anything to make it more "topical"?

Like I said already, wallpaper paste.

Yup, saw that after I posted


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On Wed, 06 Jul 2016 11:36:30 +0100, Chris Hogg wrote:

n Wed, 6 Jul 2016 10:51:16 +0100, John Rumm
wrote:


Is there a reliable way to kill brambles that are growing close to stuff
you don't want to kill? We seem to have loads of the things growing in
shrubs, flower beads, and around trees etc.

As TNP says, glyphosate painted on with a brush so as not to get it on
adjacent plants, although I wouldn't use it neat. I would cut them
back to near ground level, and wait until some nice juicy fresh green
shoots appear, then zap them with ordinary strength glyphosate with a
trigger hand spray to keep the spray localised.

The info. on the Gallup 360 leaflet says not to spray under hedges, so I'd
assume the same for (other) shrubs. Weedol does seem to be suitable for
under woody growth, so I keep some for that purpose.
Now, how to eliminate Aquilagea growing up through heather...?

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On Thu, 07 Jul 2016 09:26:21 +0100, Chris Hogg wrote:

On Thu, 7 Jul 2016 09:01:32 +0100, PeterC
wrote:

On Wed, 06 Jul 2016 11:36:30 +0100, Chris Hogg wrote:

n Wed, 6 Jul 2016 10:51:16 +0100, John Rumm
wrote:


Is there a reliable way to kill brambles that are growing close to stuff
you don't want to kill? We seem to have loads of the things growing in
shrubs, flower beads, and around trees etc.

As TNP says, glyphosate painted on with a brush so as not to get it on
adjacent plants, although I wouldn't use it neat. I would cut them
back to near ground level, and wait until some nice juicy fresh green
shoots appear, then zap them with ordinary strength glyphosate with a
trigger hand spray to keep the spray localised.

The info. on the Gallup 360 leaflet says not to spray under hedges, so I'd
assume the same for (other) shrubs.

I'd like to know the reason they say that. I would imagine it's
because of the real possibility of getting the spray onto the hedge
itself and damaging it, rather than because it isn't effective on
weeds under the hedge.

Possibly, yes. The Weedol does, of course. warn about drift.


Weedol does seem to be suitable for under woody growth, so I keep some for that purpose.

Which Weedol would that be? Scotts do several products under that
umbrella name.

Rootkill Plus. http://amzn.to/29qkdMH


Now, how to eliminate Aquilagea growing up through heather...?

Work your hand down through the heather along the stem(s) of the
aquilegia until you reach soil level. Grasp the stem firmly and rip it
out! My aquilegias are just going over ATM and beginning to set seed.
Rip them out before the seed ripens, otherwise the problem just
perpetuates itself. Personally, I like them, especially the purple
'wild' one, so I let it seed where it will.

Trouble is, they spread everywhere and I prefer various long-flowering
herbs. I've let a chunk of the garden do 'wild' but still control it to
favour what I want.
Getting to the bottom of the Aquilagea is painful (can't use a glove as need
to feel the stems) and the roots are in amongst 50-yo heather roots - they
just snap off.
I have a cunning plan: remove them down to the roots, let them grow several
leaves, use a plastic cylinder as a barrier and see if I can spray/wipe
then. Need some sort of wetting agent - the leaves are hydrophobic.
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On Thu, 07 Jul 2016 12:01:10 +0100, PeterC wrote:

I have a cunning plan: remove them down to the roots, let them grow
several leaves, use a plastic cylinder as a barrier and see if I can
spray/wipe then. Need some sort of wetting agent - the leaves are
hydrophobic.

Washing up liquid works

On Thursday, July 7, 2016 at 1:06:03 PM UTC+1, Mark Allread wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jul 2016 12:01:10 +0100, PeterC wrote:

I have a cunning plan: remove them down to the roots, let them grow
several leaves, use a plastic cylinder as a barrier and see if I can
spray/wipe then. Need some sort of wetting agent - the leaves are
hydrophobic.

Washing up liquid works

Just be careful of Roundup. SWMBO was complaining about a small weed which was growing under her tomato plants in the greenhouse. Her ever helpful 'gardener', not me, used a spray bottle (one of those with a lever at the top) to spray roundup on them. Unfortunately same spray bottle atomised the round up so it rose up around the toamto plants and killed all of them.
Schadenfraude. Same SWMBO screeches if she sees ME using Roundup.

On Thu, 07 Jul 2016 07:59:19 -0700, fred wrote:

On Thursday, July 7, 2016 at 1:06:03 PM UTC+1, Mark Allread wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jul 2016 12:01:10 +0100, PeterC wrote:

I have a cunning plan: remove them down to the roots, let them grow
several leaves, use a plastic cylinder as a barrier and see if I can
spray/wipe then. Need some sort of wetting agent - the leaves are
hydrophobic.

Washing up liquid works

Just be careful of Roundup. SWMBO was complaining about a small weed
which was growing under her tomato plants in the greenhouse. Her ever
helpful 'gardener', not me, used a spray bottle (one of those with a
lever at the top) to spray roundup on them. Unfortunately same spray
bottle atomised the round up so it rose up around the toamto plants and
killed all of them.
Schadenfraude. Same SWMBO screeches if she sees ME using Roundup.

For an isolated weed in awkward areas I tend to just give a quick dab of
the dilution using a paintbrush - it puts on far more than is required
but is easier to apply.

One thing with any glyphosate is that they are best applied in humid
conditions or early morning/late evening when the heat of the sun (what
sun? you may well ask!) is off.

In article ,
fred wrote:
Just be careful of Roundup. SWMBO was complaining about a small weed
which was growing under her tomato plants in the greenhouse. Her ever
helpful 'gardener', not me, used a spray bottle (one of those with a
lever at the top) to spray roundup on them. Unfortunately same spray
bottle atomised the round up so it rose up around the toamto plants and
killed all of them. Schadenfraude. Same SWMBO screeches if she sees ME
using Roundup.

But it can't. Says weedkiller on the bottle. So must be safe with
everything else.

Or could the EU have a point in attempting to control its use?

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