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On Tue, 05 Jul 2016 12:27:22 +0100, dennis@home wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36712040 Gleefully reported by the impartial EBC! According to the Mail (so it must be true! ) countries are queuing up to do business with the UK. -- TOJ. |
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The Other John wrote: On Tue, 05 Jul 2016 12:27:22 +0100, dennis@home wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36712040 Gleefully reported by the impartial EBC! According to the Mail (so it must be true! ) countries are queuing up to do business with the UK. I'm sure they are. Queueing up to *sell* us stuff. Oddly, I'm one of the old fashioned types who think you have to earn some money before spending it. -- *If all the world is a stage, where is the audience sitting? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , The Other John wrote: On Tue, 05 Jul 2016 12:27:22 +0100, dennis@home wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36712040 Gleefully reported by the impartial EBC! According to the Mail (so it must be true! ) countries are queuing up to do business with the UK. I'm sure they are. Queueing up to *sell* us stuff. Oddly, I'm one of the old fashioned types who think you have to earn some money before spending it. I agree with that but we're a dying breed. |
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On Tuesday, 5 July 2016 14:39:31 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , The Other John wrote: On Tue, 05 Jul 2016 12:27:22 +0100, dennis@home wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36712040 Gleefully reported by the impartial EBC! According to the Mail (so it must be true! ) countries are queuing up to do business with the UK. I'm sure they are. Queueing up to *sell* us stuff. Oddly, I'm one of the old fashioned types who think you have to earn some money before spending it. which is a strange idea if you're going from one country to another as an economic migrant because you are most likely leaving your country because you can't earn enough to live the way you want. I didn;t think the UK was a cheap country certainly london isn't and most of the big cities aren't but there are bargins. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...st-street.html |
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On Tuesday, 5 July 2016 14:55:34 UTC+1, bm wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , The Other John wrote: On Tue, 05 Jul 2016 12:27:22 +0100, dennis@home wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36712040 Gleefully reported by the impartial EBC! According to the Mail (so it must be true! ) countries are queuing up to do business with the UK. I'm sure they are. Queueing up to *sell* us stuff. Oddly, I'm one of the old fashioned types who think you have to earn some money before spending it. I agree with that but we're a dying breed. It's not the EU way you should be in debt so someoen can make a profit from you. |
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Nope, that is nothing even remotely like real trouble.
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote
The Other John wrote dennis@home wrote http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36712040 Gleefully reported by the impartial EBC! According to the Mail (so it must be true! ) countries are queuing up to do business with the UK. I'm sure they are. Queueing up to *sell* us stuff. Now that there will be no duty/tariff applicable with Britain out of the EU. Oddly, I'm one of the old fashioned types who think you have to earn some money before spending it. Even you should have noticed that the absolute vast bulk of Britain's GDP comes from what Britain does internally and that **** all is from exports and that with the pound sagging a bit, even exports will do better too. |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote The Other John wrote dennis@home wrote http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36712040 Gleefully reported by the impartial EBC! According to the Mail (so it must be true! ) countries are queuing up to do business with the UK. I'm sure they are. Queueing up to *sell* us stuff. Oddly, I'm one of the old fashioned types who think you have to earn some money before spending it. which is a strange idea if you're going from one country to another as an economic migrant because you are most likely leaving your country because you can't earn enough to live the way you want. Or because you decide the country you are moving to is better, or just to see more of the world. I didn;t think the UK was a cheap country certainly london isn't and most of the big cities aren't but there are bargins. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...st-street.html |
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"whisky-dave" wrote in message ... On Tuesday, 5 July 2016 14:55:34 UTC+1, bm wrote: "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , The Other John wrote: On Tue, 05 Jul 2016 12:27:22 +0100, dennis@home wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36712040 Gleefully reported by the impartial EBC! According to the Mail (so it must be true! ) countries are queuing up to do business with the UK. I'm sure they are. Queueing up to *sell* us stuff. Oddly, I'm one of the old fashioned types who think you have to earn some money before spending it. I agree with that but we're a dying breed. It's not the EU way you should be in debt so someoen can make a profit from you. Precisely, I've NEVER spent money I don't have, my son does, sadly. Over 25 years i've saved what I could. Consequently, unless the BFO **** hits the BFO fan I should be ok. God knows what the workers with snotty nosed kids do. Still, as long as they can glug 10 pints a night, I doubt they care. |
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On Tuesday, 5 July 2016 12:27:22 UTC+1, dennis@home wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36712040 Don't know how you can sleep at night Den. You must lie in bed fretting away. |
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in 1504135 20160705 122722 dennis@home wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36712040 All we need is a PM with the sense and guts to tell the Leavers that they are stupid gits and the referendum result will be ignored. |
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"Bob Martin" wrote in message ... in 1504135 20160705 122722 dennis@home wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36712040 All we need is a PM with the sense and guts to tell the Leavers that they are stupid gits and the referendum result will be ignored. Somehow the current situation is very reminiscent of the episode of "Peep Show", (for anyone who's watched it) where Mark (David Mitchell) admits to Jeremy (Robert Webb) that he's going to go ahead and marry Sophie (Olivia Coleman), "out of embarrassment". Basically Mark had intended to propose on a weekend away with Sophie and had packed a ring. He then changed his mind and realised marrying Sophie would be a terrible idea. However Sophie then found the ring and without a word from Mark, said "Yes!". In this case UK politicians are going to wreck the UK economy because they're all simply "too embarrassed" to admit in public what many people have suspected all along. That most of the voting public are a bunch of easily led thickos. And that it never occurred to any of these morons who are now insisting on their "democratic rights", that the UK system of Representative Democracy, like many others, was expressly designed to obscure the fact that large numbers of voters, them, are actually pretty stupid. Although obviously any public figure unwise enough to make such an outrageous suggestion could expect 24 hour surveillance and a really good monstering from at least three national newspapers. Along with scrutiny of a personal and family history they may never have realised they actually had; going back decades if not centuries michael adams .... |
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On 06/07/16 07:47, Bob Martin wrote:
in 1504135 20160705 122722 dennis@home wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36712040 All we need is a PM with the sense and guts to tell the Leavers that they are stupid gits and the referendum result will be ignored. You think the leavers would sit by and say 'yes we were', and do absolutely nothing? You identify yourself as an antidemocratic Good little Party Apparatchik You are the people we voted to leave. -- "When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him." Jonathan Swift. |
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voice changing..do I have a 'condition'?
If 'horrific' means horrible, why doesn't terrific mean terrible?
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On Tuesday, 5 July 2016 23:38:37 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
whisky-dave wrote Dave Plowman (News) wrote The Other John wrote dennis@home wrote http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36712040 Gleefully reported by the impartial EBC! According to the Mail (so it must be true! ) countries are queuing up to do business with the UK. I'm sure they are. Queueing up to *sell* us stuff. Oddly, I'm one of the old fashioned types who think you have to earn some money before spending it. which is a strange idea if you're going from one country to another as an economic migrant because you are most likely leaving your country because you can't earn enough to live the way you want. Or because you decide the country you are moving to is better, how to you decide that ? or just to see more of the world. Most use holidays for that sort of adventure or education. I didn;t think the UK was a cheap country certainly london isn't and most of the big cities aren't but there are bargins. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...st-street.html |
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On Wednesday, 6 July 2016 08:46:42 UTC+1, michael adams wrote:
"Bob Martin" wrote in message ... in 1504135 20160705 122722 dennis@home wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36712040 All we need is a PM with the sense and guts to tell the Leavers that they are stupid gits and the referendum result will be ignored. In this case UK politicians are going to wreck the UK economy because they're all simply "too embarrassed" to admit in public what many people have suspected all along. That most of the voting public are a bunch of easily led thickos. But not usually led by politions but the media. Which is how murdoch has planned it. And that it never occurred to any of these morons who are now insisting on their "democratic rights", that the UK system of Representative Democracy, like many others, was expressly designed to obscure the fact that large numbers of voters, them, are actually pretty stupid. Well in theory we elect clever peole rather than criminals so they can tell us the truth and allow us to make a judgement. But the polititions are more interested in their careers and personalities and the media encourages this but why ? Although obviously any public figure unwise enough to make such an outrageous suggestion could expect 24 hour surveillance and a really good monstering from at least three national newspapers. Along with scrutiny of a personal and family history they may never have realised they actually had; going back decades if not centuries michael adams ... |
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On 06/07/2016 07:47, Bob Martin wrote:
in 1504135 20160705 122722 dennis@home wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36712040 All we need is a PM with the sense and guts to tell the Leavers that they are stupid gits and the referendum result will be ignored. You can tell how silly they can be.. some neighbours down the street are UKIP campaigners and pretty racist by their comments but they had a load of Eastern European sounding people turn up to tarmac their drive yesterday. So they want immigration to stop but only want to pay cheaply for their stuff. Needless to say the tarmac was done in an unprofessional manner, twice! The first time they just put it on the ground that was there and then had the nerve to ask if they could borrow my whacker plate. The second time they dug out some ground, threw some edging along the edges (no concrete that I saw) and threw in some tarmac. Its not proper tarmac either as they were told to no drive on it for a few days which is totally unnecessary for proper tarmac. I wonder what the guarantee period is? |
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On Wednesday, 6 July 2016 12:49:08 UTC+1, dennis@home wrote:
On 06/07/2016 07:47, Bob Martin wrote: in 1504135 20160705 122722 dennis@home wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36712040 All we need is a PM with the sense and guts to tell the Leavers that they are stupid gits and the referendum result will be ignored. You can tell how silly they can be.. some neighbours down the street are UKIP campaigners and pretty racist by their comments but they had a load of Eastern European sounding people turn up to tarmac their drive yesterday. Makes you wonder why they employed them doesn't it. So they want immigration to stop but only want to pay cheaply for their stuff. You;d have to ask them. Needless to say the tarmac was done in an unprofessional manner, twice! The first time they just put it on the ground that was there and then had the nerve to ask if they could borrow my whacker plate. Makes me wonder how such a company can exist and why people kep employing such people maybe it;s not racist to employ foreign workers while our own are told to worked longer hgours for less pay because there are plenty of foreigners willing to work for less. The second time they dug out some ground, threw some edging along the edges (no concrete that I saw) and threw in some tarmac. Its not proper tarmac either as they were told to no drive on it for a few days which is totally unnecessary for proper tarmac. I wonder what the guarantee period is? a few days perhaps. |
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"michael adams" wrote in message o.uk... In this case UK politicians are going to wreck the UK economy because they're all simply "too embarrassed" to admit in public what many people have suspected all along. That most of the voting public are a bunch of easily led thickos. And that it never occurred to any of these morons who are now insisting on their "democratic rights", that the UK system of Representative Democracy, like many others, was expressly designed to obscure the fact that large numbers of voters, them, are actually pretty stupid. In restrospect both of thse paragraphs are rather unfair. The truth is that the majority of voters aren't interested in politics at all. As far as they're concerned anyway they've got more rewarding things to do with their time. And conversely if too many people took an active interest in politics, public affairs would devleop into even more of a talking shop than is already the case, with every aspect of every issue being debated ad-nauseam; and with no decisions ever being taken. However this day to day lack of engagement with politics and political issues does leave ordinary voters open to manipulation and propaganda of all kinds and from all directions. michael adams .... |
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On Wednesday, 6 July 2016 12:49:08 UTC+1, dennis@home wrote:
On 06/07/2016 07:47, Bob Martin wrote: in 1504135 20160705 122722 dennis@home wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36712040 All we need is a PM with the sense and guts to tell the Leavers that they are stupid gits and the referendum result will be ignored. You can tell how silly they can be.. some neighbours down the street are UKIP campaigners and pretty racist by their comments but they had a load of Eastern European sounding people turn up to tarmac their drive yesterday. So they want immigration to stop but only want to pay cheaply for their stuff. Needless to say the tarmac was done in an unprofessional manner, twice! The first time they just put it on the ground that was there and then had the nerve to ask if they could borrow my whacker plate. The second time they dug out some ground, threw some edging along the edges (no concrete that I saw) and threw in some tarmac. Its not proper tarmac either as they were told to no drive on it for a few days which is totally unnecessary for proper tarmac. I wonder what the guarantee period is? Well pay peanuts and get monkeys. |
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michael adams wrote Bob Martin wrote dennis@home wrote http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36712040 All we need is a PM with the sense and guts to tell the Leavers that they are stupid gits and the referendum result will be ignored. In this case UK politicians are going to wreck the UK economy If the complete implosion of much of the world financial system in 2008 didnt do that, leaving the EU isnt going to. because they're all simply "too embarrassed" to admit in public what many people have suspected all along. That most of the voting public are a bunch of easily led thickos. But not usually led by politions but the media. Bull****. It wasnt the media that was keen on leaving the EU, it was some of the politicians like Farage and Boris. Which is how murdoch has planned it. He has **** all influence on what the voters care about, and most of them dont even bother with is **** rags anymore. And that it never occurred to any of these morons who are now insisting on their "democratic rights", that the UK system of Representative Democracy, like many others, was expressly designed to obscure the fact that large numbers of voters, them, are actually pretty stupid. Not obscure so much as work fine with quite a few of the voters like that. Well in theory we elect clever peole rather than criminals so they can tell us the truth and allow us to make a judgement. Even sillier than you usually manage. That has never been what politics is about. But the polititions are more interested in their careers and personalities They always have been. Even Churchill was like that. and the media encourages this but why ? Because that is how politics works and it always has been. Although obviously any public figure unwise enough to make such an outrageous suggestion could expect 24 hour surveillance and a really good monstering from at least three national newspapers. Along with scrutiny of a personal and family history they may never have realised they actually had; going back decades if not centuries |
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Rod Speed wrote whisky-dave wrote Dave Plowman (News) wrote The Other John wrote dennis@home wrote http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36712040 Gleefully reported by the impartial EBC! According to the Mail (so it must be true! ) countries are queuing up to do business with the UK. I'm sure they are. Queueing up to *sell* us stuff. Oddly, I'm one of the old fashioned types who think you have to earn some money before spending it. which is a strange idea if you're going from one country to another as an economic migrant because you are most likely leaving your country because you can't earn enough to live the way you want. Or because you decide the country you are moving to is better, how to you decide that ? By seeing how the stuff you care about is done there. or just to see more of the world. Most use holidays for that sort of adventure or education. Hasnt been like that for a long time now, particularly with kids. Many of them move to other countrys for years instead and get a much better idea of what they are like to live in than you can ever get with just a holiday there. Plenty in here have done it like that too. I didn;t think the UK was a cheap country certainly london isn't and most of the big cities aren't but there are bargins. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...st-street.html |
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On 06/07/2016 16:14, bert wrote:
In article . com, lid writes On 06/07/2016 07:47, Bob Martin wrote: in 1504135 20160705 122722 dennis@home wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36712040 All we need is a PM with the sense and guts to tell the Leavers that they are stupid gits and the referendum result will be ignored. You can tell how silly they can be.. some neighbours down the street are UKIP campaigners and pretty racist by their comments but they had a load of Eastern European sounding people turn up to tarmac their drive yesterday. So they want immigration to stop but only want to pay cheaply for their stuff. No one has said they want immigration to stop. Typical Remain liar. I can assure you they did or do you know them too? |
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"michael adams" wrote in message o.uk... "michael adams" wrote in message o.uk... In this case UK politicians are going to wreck the UK economy because they're all simply "too embarrassed" to admit in public what many people have suspected all along. That most of the voting public are a bunch of easily led thickos. And that it never occurred to any of these morons who are now insisting on their "democratic rights", that the UK system of Representative Democracy, like many others, was expressly designed to obscure the fact that large numbers of voters, them, are actually pretty stupid. In restrospect both of thse paragraphs are rather unfair. The truth is that the majority of voters aren't interested in politics at all. As far as they're concerned anyway they've got more rewarding things to do with their time. And conversely if too many people took an active interest in politics, public affairs would devleop into even more of a talking shop than is already the case, with every aspect of every issue being debated ad-nauseam; and with no decisions ever being taken. However this day to day lack of engagement with politics and political issues does leave ordinary voters open to manipulation and propaganda of all kinds and from all directions. Politics has always been like that. The general public in a place like Britain only starts rioting when they are compressively ****ed off. |
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in 1504388 20160706 102218 The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 06/07/16 07:47, Bob Martin wrote: in 1504135 20160705 122722 dennis@home wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36712040 All we need is a PM with the sense and guts to tell the Leavers that they are stupid gits and the referendum result will be ignored. You think the leavers would sit by and say 'yes we were', and do absolutely nothing? You identify yourself as an antidemocratic Good little Party Apparatchik You are the people we voted to leave. Really? You yourself agreed with me that half the voters are below average intelligence, so why put such an important decision in their hands. We elect people to do what's best for the country. If they then ask us what we should do they are not fit for the task. True democracy is the same as anarchy. |
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lid writes On 06/07/2016 16:14, bert wrote: In article . com, lid writes On 06/07/2016 07:47, Bob Martin wrote: in 1504135 20160705 122722 dennis@home wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36712040 All we need is a PM with the sense and guts to tell the Leavers that they are stupid gits and the referendum result will be ignored. You can tell how silly they can be.. some neighbours down the street are UKIP campaigners and pretty racist by their comments but they had a load of Eastern European sounding people turn up to tarmac their drive yesterday. So they want immigration to stop but only want to pay cheaply for their stuff. No one has said they want immigration to stop. Typical Remain liar. I can assure you they did or do you know them too? Names, dates, times. -- bert |
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