On 23/05/16 11:58, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , The Natural Philosopher
wrote:


And the SNP knows that, which is why they heaved a sigh of relief when
the referendum said 'stay.

Now they get to carry on hating the English, and spending the English
money, without having to take responsibility for their incompetence,
which they can blame on the English! It doesn't get better than that,
for Lefty****s!

Oh! A bit like the LibDems, then. If they're in opposition on the
council, they can blame the council, if they are running the council
they can blame the govt! It can't get better than that, eh?

A lefty**** by any other name would smell like bull****.


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If I had all the money I've spent on drink...
...I'd spend it on drink.

Sir Henry (at Rawlinson's End)

"The EU does the opposite. It is anti-market, stifling innovation
and competition with its statism, corporatism and bureaucracy.

It is anti-enterprise, acting in the interests of the big
businesses that have corruptly captured the levers of power in Brussels
through their shameless lobbying and insider deal-making, enabling a
gradual corporate takeover of our country.

The European Union is anti-trade, locking developing countries out
of world markets with its evil Common Agricultural Policy that
feather-beds French farmers while keeping African farmers trapped in
poverty €” and despair.

And I dont think even the EUs most fervent supporters would ever
claim that it €˜puts power in peoples hands. The whole point of the EU
is to take power out of peoples hands in pursuit of a greater good."


Steve Hilton, former employee of David Cameron

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politic...endum-36357212
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"Saki"

On Mon, 23 May 2016 11:24:43 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

And the SNP are not an old style labour party anyway. They are a
National Socialist party, founded on the basis of racial hatred ...now
where have I heard that before.

It's very odd indeed why the Scottish Nationalists are allowed by the
Globalists to have what amounts to their very own Nazi Party, whereas the
*slightest* tendency to go down the same path by the English is met with
an absolute blizzard of condemnation & anti-free association laws. Most
curious indeed. :-/

On 23/05/16 18:14, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2016 11:24:43 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

And the SNP are not an old style labour party anyway. They are a
National Socialist party, founded on the basis of racial hatred ...now
where have I heard that before.

It's very odd indeed why the Scottish Nationalists are allowed by the
Globalists to have what amounts to their very own Nazi Party, whereas the
*slightest* tendency to go down the same path by the English is met with
an absolute blizzard of condemnation & anti-free association laws. Most
curious indeed. :-/

Ah, because the SNP is pro EU.

What you have to understand is that there is a global project towards
word government run by a socialist bureaucracy. Anything that is for
that, is OK, anything that is against it is not.

And, like Islam, no lie told in support of this faith, is wrong, so
whether or note e.g. Climate change is true or not is not an issue for
its protagonists: What is an issue is that Climate change the project
Fear leads towards more centralised control of the lifeblood of modern
society - energy. Fracking does not. Nuclear does not.

Or the lie that the EU is a free trade area. In fact it deliberately
restricts trade to protect the few companies it contains.

What is happening in the USA under O'barmy and in the EU, is the most
frightening thing I have seen in my life. Far more frightening than the
remote possibility of nuclear war in the cold war era. You can survive a
nuclear war...

Its totally analogous to the rise of Hitler. He was voted in, once, too.



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the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in
someone else's pocket.

On Mon, 23 May 2016 18:27:53 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Its totally analogous to the rise of Hitler. He was voted in, once, too.

I can honestly see a time coming - if we *do* manage to extricate
ourselves from this pile of crap pseudo superstate - when we yet again
have to rescue continental Europe from the spectre of Facism. That is the
road those power-mad parasites in Brussels are taking everyone down.

On 23/05/16 19:14, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2016 18:27:53 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Its totally analogous to the rise of Hitler. He was voted in, once, too.

I can honestly see a time coming - if we *do* manage to extricate
ourselves from this pile of crap pseudo superstate - when we yet again
have to rescue continental Europe from the spectre of Facism. That is the
road those power-mad parasites in Brussels are taking everyone down.

And they aren't taking over in a glorious military bid for power. They
are sitting their patiently making very little minor revolutionary act
illegal, and boring a generation to death with cultural marxism. While
they sell the whole idea of passivity, emasculation, and gay ******** to
a population who is told its all 'progressive' and 'liberal' and go to
the abattoir like sheep.


I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
Don't get fooled again
No, no!

Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss




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"When one man dies it's a tragedy. When thousands die it's statistics."

Josef Stalin

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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On 23/05/16 18:14, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2016 11:24:43 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

And the SNP are not an old style labour party anyway. They are a
National Socialist party, founded on the basis of racial hatred ...now
where have I heard that before.

It's very odd indeed why the Scottish Nationalists are allowed by the
Globalists to have what amounts to their very own Nazi Party, whereas the
*slightest* tendency to go down the same path by the English is met with
an absolute blizzard of condemnation & anti-free association laws. Most
curious indeed. :-/

Ah, because the SNP is pro EU.

What you have to understand is that there is a global project towards word
government run by a socialist bureaucracy. Anything that is for that, is
OK, anything that is against it is not.

And, like Islam, no lie told in support of this faith, is wrong, so
whether or note e.g. Climate change is true or not is not an issue for its
protagonists: What is an issue is that Climate change the project Fear
leads towards more centralised control of the lifeblood of modern
society - energy. Fracking does not. Nuclear does not.

Or the lie that the EU is a free trade area. In fact it deliberately
restricts trade to protect the few companies it contains.

What is happening in the USA under O'barmy and in the EU, is the most
frightening thing I have seen in my life. Far more frightening than the
remote possibility of nuclear war in the cold war era. You can survive a
nuclear war...

Its totally analogous to the rise of Hitler.

Completely off with the ****ing fairies, as always.

He was voted in, once, too.

Yeah, yeah, the dive bombers will show up any day now.

On 23/05/16 23:19, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , jjk
wrote:

Completely off with the ****ing fairies, as always.

**** off Woddles.

Well he keeps the kill file warm anyway.



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"I guess a rattlesnake ain't risponsible fer bein' a rattlesnake, but ah
puts mah heel on um jess the same if'n I catches him around mah chillun".

On Monday, 23 May 2016 10:25:25 UTC+1, Jim Simon wrote:
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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On 22/05/16 23:35, Jim Simon wrote:


"Cursitor Doom" wrote in message
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On Mon, 23 May 2016 06:29:01 +1000, Jim Simon wrote:

Of course they did, that's why they elected Corbyn.

And Corbyn will **** on them just as all the others did - in fact he
already has! Corbyn has baldly stated that the Labour Party is united in
its desire to retain EU membership. The irony is that low and lower-paid
unskilled and semi-skilled workers (core Labourites) are by far the /
biggest losers/ from EU membership since they now have to compete with
eastern europeans which has driven their wages down enormously over the
last two decades. But the thick ****ers - 'boiling frogs' - still
haven't
worked out how they've been ****ed-over by the Globalists. There's no
hope for them and their union leaders know it and have sold them out
long, long ago. But that still won't stop them voting Labour!!

That's because there isnt anyone else to vote for unless they are in
Scotland.

No one else has had enough of a clue to have a party with the old style
Labour values.

That's because everyone with enough of a clue knows that it wouldn't
actually solve any real life problems even if it had any chance of getting
elected at all.

How odd that the SNP obliterated Labour in Scotland.

Socialism: Right question. Wrong answer.

The Scots clearly feel otherwise.

Scotland's industry (created by capitalists) has been destroyed by socialism.
Not the English or the Tories.
Sensible Scots have fled Scotland years ago leaving behind a very poor gene pool.

On Monday, 23 May 2016 08:08:32 UTC+1, Brian Gaff wrote:
I don't knowshould they not go for alcohol as well then?
The problem as America discovered with trying to stop people doing
anything, is that they then start to use unregulated ways to obtain the
supply.

This is why I personally feel that all drugs being banned or hyper regulated
is counter productive.

Not that I want to use any of them, but today, with what we know about how
addiction works we should be able to come up with socially acceptable drugs
that do not have addictive problems or health damage over time. After all
there are enough bona fide medications which cause damage while curing
something else and they are legal.

Brian

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The absolute classic misuse of EU regulatory powers under the guidance of
if big corporates (pharmaceuticals in this case, who make things like
nicotine gum) to stamp out a competitive product that puts profits at
risk.



http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/05..._need_to_know/



"You could be forgiving for thinking that the TPD/TRPR was designed to
make vaping as difficult as possible, without actually banning it
outright. Last year Public Health England backed the availability of
e-cigarettes on the NHS, yet millions have given up tobacco already via an
unregulated consumer product. The EU's TPD is a sophisticated Denial of
Service attack on that consumer market.

"Every part of the e-cig supply chain is affected in some way. New liquids
and hardware now require a six-month approval period, and approval costs.
The maximum tank size is a measly 2ml, less than half of the typical tank
size today of 5ml. The maximum nicotine concentration in a liquid is
20mg/ml - short of the 24mg/ml smokers look for when they start to vape.
Users of high voltage ("sub ohm") vaping hardware won't be effected by the
latter, as they use very low nicotine concentration liquids - but the
former will present a major inconvenience, as they get through a lot more
liquid. And they'll be carrying more bottles - since the maximum capacity
of a refill container size is set to 10ml. So quite perversely for a
"health" measure, a lot more people will be carrying around more
containers of toxic liquid with them as a consequence. (And you thought
the Cookie Directive was stupid and pointless.)

"The restrictions on promotion will also have some perverse consequences.
Since "promotion" of the products is now illegal, bloggers and YouTube
vloggers have been advised not to enthuse too much about the kit they
review - and to be on the safe side, not mention the price. The
regulations are nicely translated to plain English here.

http://www.vapingpost.com/2016/04/22...entation-plan/


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to converts. It is deception that uses all the other techniques.

All pleasure causing drugs are bound to be addictive due to the srtucture of the brain.

harry wrote
Jim Simon wrote
The Natural Philosopher wrote
Jim Simon wrote
Cursitor Doom wrote
Jim Simon wrote

Of course they did, that's why they elected Corbyn.

And Corbyn will **** on them just as all the others did - in fact he
already has! Corbyn has baldly stated that the Labour Party is united
in
its desire to retain EU membership. The irony is that low and
lower-paid
unskilled and semi-skilled workers (core Labourites) are by far the /
biggest losers/ from EU membership since they now have to compete with
eastern europeans which has driven their wages down enormously over
the
last two decades. But the thick ****ers - 'boiling frogs' - still
haven't
worked out how they've been ****ed-over by the Globalists. There's no
hope for them and their union leaders know it and have sold them out
long, long ago. But that still won't stop them voting Labour!!

That's because there isnt anyone else to vote for unless they are in
Scotland.

No one else has had enough of a clue to have a party with the old style
Labour values.

That's because everyone with enough of a clue knows that it wouldn't
actually solve any real life problems even if it had any chance of
getting
elected at all.

How odd that the SNP obliterated Labour in Scotland.

Socialism: Right question. Wrong answer.

The Scots clearly feel otherwise.

Scotland's industry (created by capitalists)

Yes.

has been destroyed by socialism.

Nope. The bulk of it ended up uncompetitive once South Korea
and the Japs got involved, particularly with shipbuilding, and with
North Sea oil and gas, it just ran out

Socialism in fact delivered in spades with Norway when they had enough
of a clue to do their oil and gas and power generation that way.

Certainly the medical industry in Scotland that had always been
very important for the entire world was taken over by socialism,
the NHS, but it would be silly to claim that it has been destroyed.

Not the English or the Tories.

The English did grab all the oil and gas revenue.

Sensible Scots have fled Scotland years ago

Yep. Same is true of Britain too.

leaving behind a very poor gene pool.

Same is true of Britain too.

"harry" wrote in message
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On Monday, 23 May 2016 08:08:32 UTC+1, Brian Gaff wrote:
I don't knowshould they not go for alcohol as well then?
The problem as America discovered with trying to stop people doing
anything, is that they then start to use unregulated ways to obtain the
supply.

This is why I personally feel that all drugs being banned or hyper
regulated
is counter productive.

Not that I want to use any of them, but today, with what we know about
how
addiction works we should be able to come up with socially acceptable
drugs
that do not have addictive problems or health damage over time. After all
there are enough bona fide medications which cause damage while curing
something else and they are legal.

Brian

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This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from...
The Sofa of Brian Gaff...

Blind user, so no pictures please!
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
The absolute classic misuse of EU regulatory powers under the guidance
of
if big corporates (pharmaceuticals in this case, who make things like
nicotine gum) to stamp out a competitive product that puts profits at
risk.



http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/05..._need_to_know/



"You could be forgiving for thinking that the TPD/TRPR was designed to
make vaping as difficult as possible, without actually banning it
outright. Last year Public Health England backed the availability of
e-cigarettes on the NHS, yet millions have given up tobacco already via
an
unregulated consumer product. The EU's TPD is a sophisticated Denial of
Service attack on that consumer market.

"Every part of the e-cig supply chain is affected in some way. New
liquids
and hardware now require a six-month approval period, and approval
costs.
The maximum tank size is a measly 2ml, less than half of the typical
tank
size today of 5ml. The maximum nicotine concentration in a liquid is
20mg/ml - short of the 24mg/ml smokers look for when they start to
vape.
Users of high voltage ("sub ohm") vaping hardware won't be effected by
the
latter, as they use very low nicotine concentration liquids - but the
former will present a major inconvenience, as they get through a lot
more
liquid. And they'll be carrying more bottles - since the maximum
capacity
of a refill container size is set to 10ml. So quite perversely for a
"health" measure, a lot more people will be carrying around more
containers of toxic liquid with them as a consequence. (And you thought
the Cookie Directive was stupid and pointless.)

"The restrictions on promotion will also have some perverse
consequences.
Since "promotion" of the products is now illegal, bloggers and YouTube
vloggers have been advised not to enthuse too much about the kit they
review - and to be on the safe side, not mention the price. The
regulations are nicely translated to plain English here.

http://www.vapingpost.com/2016/04/22...entation-plan/


--
Truth welcomes investigation because truth knows investigation will
lead
to converts. It is deception that uses all the other techniques.

All pleasure causing drugs are bound to be addictive due to the srtucture
of the brain.

Even sillier than you usually manage. Most avoid addiction to alcohol.

Its only the dregs of the world like the plowthing that end up addicts.

On Tuesday, 24 May 2016 07:33:17 UTC+1, harry wrote:


All pleasure causing drugs are bound to be addictive due to the srtucture of the brain.

Then everything isn a drug including sex and burgers, is food a drug, then why do we have so many fdat ****ers ;-) yes I've said it without resorting to the term obese, lets say it how it is. Fat ****ers. acutaully mostleu they at Poor Fat ****ers. ;-)

costing the tax payer more money than the smokers and drinkers.

http://www.rand.org/pubs/research_briefs/RB4549.html