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On Friday, 20 May 2016 11:12:52 UTC+1, Mark wrote:
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Every one of our pilots in the Battle of Britain was a racist.
They had to hate Germans to kill them.
Good thing too.

I am a culturalist.
I hate f*****g muslims.
And socialists.
And anyone else who erodes my freedoms.

On 21/05/2016 07:36, harry wrote:
Every one of our pilots in the Battle of Britain was a racist.

My father was not in Battle of Britain - he was in Bomber Command with a
very large number of bombing missions undertaken.

He was not a racist. Worked cheerfully alongside Russians, French,
USAians, and had some of the best time of his life in India (a part that
is now Pakistan). Was more than happy to have Germans looking after his
children - and kept in touch with them for the rest of his life.

Don't enrol my father into your agenda. Trying to do so makes your case
look pathetic. Any properly thought-through argument would not do so.

--
Rod

In article ,
harry wrote:

Every one of our pilots in the Battle of Britain was a racist.

Isn't it a little presumptuous for you to speak up for thousands of
people with whom you never mixed, never mind knew? A ridiculous,
ignorant, and deliberately inflammatory statement.

They had to hate Germans to kill them.

Not so. They (that is "we" - the British nation) had to kill Germans to
survive - not the same thing at all.

By the way, if you're talking "race": we are the same race as the
Germans. There's a slight shift in racial background as you go far
South, or far East, or far North, but basically all western Europeans
are the same race.



Good thing too.

Absolutely not. It's nations that you are talking about in your rant
above, and it behoves you to remember that nations in western Europe
(that is: the EU, and its aspirant members) haven't fought each other
since WWII.

That's why the "aspirant members" are so keen to be part of the EU: not
very long ago at all, those people were literally cutting each others
throats, and they know things could easily slide back that way. When we
read the sort of thing you put in your posts, Harry, it's easy to see
why.

Good god. So comforting to know that UKIP is (quite literally) dying
away.

John

In article ,
Tim Streater wrote:

In article , Another John
wrote:

Absolutely not. It's nations that you are talking about in your rant
above, and it behoves you to remember that nations in western Europe
(that is: the EU, and its aspirant members) haven't fought each other
since WWII.

You appear to be overlooking the Balkan wars of the 1990s. So easy to
do, isn't it.

I said "the EU". I did make the slip (through multiple revision) of
saying _at that point_ "and its aspirant members".

The Balkan wars of the 1990s are precisely the example I'm thinking
about when I speak of cutting throats, and the fear of "things slipping
back": there are "Harrys" by the million in the former Yugoslavia.

And I am not saying that I myself would not be a violent, bloody racist,
if members of my family had been slaughtered in the last generation. But
I am fortunate to have been born on this island; fortunate that my
parents' generation survived WWII, fortunate to have centuries of
[internal] peace behind me.

Why should I wish to deny this blessing (of peace) to the "aspirant
members" of the EU?

Any moment now someone will mention "jaw jaw"...


But come: Yes - I make a slip, and thus my entire case collapses and can
be put to one side: the attitude of lawyers, insurance agents, and right
wingers since time immemorial.

John

BTW don't get the idea that I swallow the EU lock stock and barrel (is
that a mixed metaphor?). There are many things I hate about it, but as
the famous WW1 cartoon said: "If you knows of a better 'ole, go to it."

On 21/05/2016 07:36, harry wrote:
On Friday, 20 May 2016 11:12:52 UTC+1, Mark wrote:
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/featur...-2014052086715

Every one of our pilots in the Battle of Britain was a racist.
They had to hate Germans to kill them.
Good thing too.

Only an idiot thinks that or some low life that will try anything to
justify his pathetic beliefs. I think you are probably both.

In article ,
Tim Streater wrote:
But the point is this: Yugoslavia didn't survive Tito's death because
he had, in effect, forced its disparate peoples together, and by
shifting populations around (that nice Mr Stalin tried this too) all he
did was mix them up enough to ensure that the wars of the 90s, when
they came, were a lot worse. Czechoslovakia was rather lucky in this
regard. That broke in two quite calmly.

You can't force peoples together at a rate faster than they would like
to go at. The EU is trying to do this at a rate set by the political
class, rather than by the people. That is the mistake they make.

Yet we've had no wars within the EU. Because all countries joined that
voluntarily. Not pushed together by force.

Split the EU asunder, as you seem to want, and there's a very real
possibility we'll go back to all that nationalistic crap.

--
*Why don't you ever see the headline "Psychic Wins Lottery"?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Saturday, 21 May 2016 08:33:19 UTC+1, polygonum wrote:
On 21/05/2016 07:36, harry wrote:
Every one of our pilots in the Battle of Britain was a racist.

My father was not in Battle of Britain - he was in Bomber Command with a
very large number of bombing missions undertaken.

He was not a racist. Worked cheerfully alongside Russians, French,
USAians, and had some of the best time of his life in India (a part that
is now Pakistan). Was more than happy to have Germans looking after his
children - and kept in touch with them for the rest of his life.

Don't enrol my father into your agenda. Trying to do so makes your case
look pathetic. Any properly thought-through argument would not do so.

--
Rod

You can't kill someone you don't hate.
Peer pressure and the knowledge that Germans were bombing/killing British citizens ensured hatred.
I 'spect he felt guilty in retrospect about all the women and kids he killed.
Personally I think he was a hero.

On Saturday, 21 May 2016 10:52:55 UTC+1, Another John wrote:
In article ,
harry wrote:

Every one of our pilots in the Battle of Britain was a racist.

Isn't it a little presumptuous for you to speak up for thousands of
people with whom you never mixed, never mind knew? A ridiculous,
ignorant, and deliberately inflammatory statement.

They had to hate Germans to kill them.

Not so. They (that is "we" - the British nation) had to kill Germans to
survive - not the same thing at all.

By the way, if you're talking "race": we are the same race as the
Germans. There's a slight shift in racial background as you go far
South, or far East, or far North, but basically all western Europeans
are the same race.



Good thing too.

Absolutely not. It's nations that you are talking about in your rant
above, and it behoves you to remember that nations in western Europe
(that is: the EU, and its aspirant members) haven't fought each other
since WWII.

They haven't fought each other since WW2 because of NATO and the nuclear deterrent. (Which stopped WW2 in a matter of days)

**** all to do with the EUSSR which in fact is trying to do by subterfuge what Hitler, Wilhelm II, Philip II etc failed to do by force.
You might read this:-http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/globalism/regionalism/soviet-eu.htm

By someone who knows what he's talking about.
But I suppose you'd be too brain dead to understand it.

On Saturday, 21 May 2016 11:15:38 UTC+1, Another John wrote:
In article ,
Tim Streater wrote:

In article , Another John
wrote:

Absolutely not. It's nations that you are talking about in your rant
above, and it behoves you to remember that nations in western Europe
(that is: the EU, and its aspirant members) haven't fought each other
since WWII.

You appear to be overlooking the Balkan wars of the 1990s. So easy to
do, isn't it.

I said "the EU". I did make the slip (through multiple revision) of
saying _at that point_ "and its aspirant members".

The Balkan wars of the 1990s are precisely the example I'm thinking
about when I speak of cutting throats, and the fear of "things slipping
back": there are "Harrys" by the million in the former Yugoslavia.

Good example.
Glad you brought it up.
"EU/UN troops" (Dutch ISTR) stood by and watched while thousands of women and children were massacred.
It took NATO to sort the matter out.

On Saturday, 21 May 2016 14:43:53 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Tim Streater wrote:
But the point is this: Yugoslavia didn't survive Tito's death because
he had, in effect, forced its disparate peoples together, and by
shifting populations around (that nice Mr Stalin tried this too) all he
did was mix them up enough to ensure that the wars of the 90s, when
they came, were a lot worse. Czechoslovakia was rather lucky in this
regard. That broke in two quite calmly.

You can't force peoples together at a rate faster than they would like
to go at. The EU is trying to do this at a rate set by the political
class, rather than by the people. That is the mistake they make.

Yet we've had no wars within the EU. Because all countries joined that
voluntarily. Not pushed together by force.

Split the EU asunder, as you seem to want, and there's a very real
possibility we'll go back to all that nationalistic crap.

--
*Why don't you ever see the headline "Psychic Wins Lottery"?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

The wars are coming.
The neo right is rising as always happens when politicians ignore the wishes of the electorate. Especially over the migration business.
And you can blame the EU for this.

On Saturday, 21 May 2016 14:19:15 UTC+1, dennis@home wrote:
On 21/05/2016 07:36, harry wrote:
On Friday, 20 May 2016 11:12:52 UTC+1, Mark wrote:
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/featur...-2014052086715

Every one of our pilots in the Battle of Britain was a racist.
They had to hate Germans to kill them.
Good thing too.

Only an idiot thinks that or some low life that will try anything to
justify his pathetic beliefs. I think you are probably both.

Head up your arse Den as usual.

On 21/05/2016 16:17, harry wrote:

You can't kill someone you don't hate.

Rubbish.
You just need a good enough reason.

On 21/05/2016 16:17, harry wrote:
You can't kill someone you don't hate.

At least one thing that you have clearly not understood is duty.

--
Rod

On 21/05/2016 16:17, harry wrote:
....
You can't kill someone you don't hate....

A lot of my family have been in the military, from WW1 through to some
of the most recent conflicts. They didn't kill people because they hated
them. They killed them because that was part of the job and they were
convinced that it was for the greater good.


--
Colin Bignell

harry wrote
Mark wrote

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/featur...-2014052086715

Every one of our pilots in the Battle of Britain was a racist.

Bull****, the krauts were the same race as most of the Brit pilots.

They had to hate Germans to kill them.

Even sillier than you usually manage.

And I dont recall too many of those pilots
in the Battle of Britain who hated your kraut
royals so much that they tried to kill them.

Good thing too.

I am a culturalist.

Nope, a rabid pig ignorant bigot.

I hate f*****g muslims.

How do you feel about the ones that
**** less than the average muslim ?

And socialists.

And yet you spend most of your pathetic excuse
for a 'life' working for one of the most socialist
operations in the entire ****ing country, the NHS.

And anyone else who erodes my freedoms.

You are free to be as rabidly bigoted as you like.

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .
In article , Another John
wrote:

In article ,
Tim Streater wrote:

In article , Another John
wrote:

Absolutely not. It's nations that you are talking about in your rant
above, and it behoves you to remember that nations in western Europe
(that is: the EU, and its aspirant members) haven't fought each other
since WWII.

You appear to be overlooking the Balkan wars of the 1990s. So easy to
do, isn't it.

I said "the EU". I did make the slip (through multiple revision) of saying
_at that point_ "and its aspirant members".

The Balkan wars of the 1990s are precisely the example I'm thinking about
when I speak of cutting throats, and the fear of "things slipping back":
there are "Harrys" by the million in the former Yugoslavia.

Of course there are. They are what are known as "ordinary people". I
did Modern(ish) European History for O-level in the early 60s. The
interminable Balkan wars of the 19thC were a feature, so I knew all
about (for some value of "all" :-) "Of course", said the history
teacher, "under the wise Socialist leadership of Mr Tito, that is all a
thing of the past." Har bloody har.

But the point is this: Yugoslavia didn't survive Tito's death because
he had, in effect, forced its disparate peoples together, and by
shifting populations around (that nice Mr Stalin tried this too) all he
did was mix them up enough to ensure that the wars of the 90s, when
they came, were a lot worse. Czechoslovakia was rather lucky in this
regard. That broke in two quite calmly.

You can't force peoples together at a rate faster than they would like
to go at.

Yes, that is very clear with Ireland. Tho it
did sort of work with Wales and Scotland.

The EU is trying to do this at a rate set by the political
class, rather than by the people.

Could have sworn that there are a lot more countries
joining the EU of their own initiative than are leaving.

That is the mistake they make.

And I am not saying that I myself would not be a violent, bloody racist,
if members of my family had been slaughtered in the last generation. But I
am fortunate to have been born on this island; fortunate that my parents'
generation survived WWII, fortunate to have centuries of [internal] peace
behind me.

Yes, I agree, we are not special in this country, we have just been
bloody lucky in our leaders, by and large. And I'll include Prince
Albert, the German who was Vicky's main squeeze, since AIUI, he had
something to do with pushing the monarchy away from government.

And they were krauts before he showed up too.

Why should I wish to deny this blessing (of peace) to the "aspirant
members" of the EU?

Because peace is not what thy'll get, in the long run.

Bet they do.

But come: Yes - I make a slip, and thus my entire case collapses and can
be put to one side: the attitude of lawyers, insurance agents, and right
wingers since time immemorial.

Well I was teasing a bit, but only a bit. The Balkans make a point. And
the people are busy pushing out the entrenched political class,
because, as I say, they feel the whole thing is going too quickly.
Watch what Austria does.

BTW don't get the idea that I swallow the EU lock stock and barrel (is
that a mixed metaphor?). There are many things I hate about it, but as
the famous WW1 cartoon said: "If you knows of a better 'ole, go to it."

Well, I know where I'm going on 23/6.

Good riddance.

"harry" wrote in message
...
On Saturday, 21 May 2016 08:33:19 UTC+1, polygonum wrote:
On 21/05/2016 07:36, harry wrote:
Every one of our pilots in the Battle of Britain was a racist.

My father was not in Battle of Britain - he was in Bomber Command with a
very large number of bombing missions undertaken.

He was not a racist. Worked cheerfully alongside Russians, French,
USAians, and had some of the best time of his life in India (a part that
is now Pakistan). Was more than happy to have Germans looking after his
children - and kept in touch with them for the rest of his life.

Don't enrol my father into your agenda. Trying to do so makes your case
look pathetic. Any properly thought-through argument would not do so.

You can't kill someone you don't hate.

BULL****. The military does it all the time, and so do the cops.

So do public executioners too.

And murderers and psychopaths in spades.

And some just kill people who get in the road too.

You dont seriously believe that all those Germans
involved in killing all those jews and slavs etc all
hated them do you ?

Or the Brits involved in the in the Amritsar massacre
hated the people that ended up dead.

Or the indians who were blown away from the guns after
the mutiny were hated by those who who executed them ?

Or those who shot deserters etc in WW1 hated them ?

You're completely off with the ****ing fairys, as always.

Peer pressure and the knowledge that Germans
were bombing/killing British citizens ensured hatred.

Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage.

I 'spect he felt guilty in retrospect about
all the women and kids he killed.

He clearly didnt hate those, stupid.

Personally I think he was a hero.

He wasnt that either, just useful for the war effort.

"harry" wrote in message
...
On Saturday, 21 May 2016 11:15:38 UTC+1, Another John wrote:
In article ,
Tim Streater wrote:

In article , Another John
wrote:

Absolutely not. It's nations that you are talking about in your rant
above, and it behoves you to remember that nations in western Europe
(that is: the EU, and its aspirant members) haven't fought each other
since WWII.

You appear to be overlooking the Balkan wars of the 1990s. So easy to
do, isn't it.

I said "the EU". I did make the slip (through multiple revision) of
saying _at that point_ "and its aspirant members".

The Balkan wars of the 1990s are precisely the example I'm thinking
about when I speak of cutting throats, and the fear of "things slipping
back": there are "Harrys" by the million in the former Yugoslavia.

Good example.
Glad you brought it up.
"EU/UN troops" (Dutch ISTR) stood by and watched
while thousands of women and children were massacred.

Men and boys, actually.

And nothing whatever to do with the EU at all.

It took NATO to sort the matter out.

"harry" wrote in message
...
On Saturday, 21 May 2016 14:43:53 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Tim Streater wrote:
But the point is this: Yugoslavia didn't survive Tito's death because
he had, in effect, forced its disparate peoples together, and by
shifting populations around (that nice Mr Stalin tried this too) all he
did was mix them up enough to ensure that the wars of the 90s, when
they came, were a lot worse. Czechoslovakia was rather lucky in this
regard. That broke in two quite calmly.

You can't force peoples together at a rate faster than they would like
to go at. The EU is trying to do this at a rate set by the political
class, rather than by the people. That is the mistake they make.

Yet we've had no wars within the EU. Because all countries joined that
voluntarily. Not pushed together by force.

Split the EU asunder, as you seem to want, and there's a very real
possibility we'll go back to all that nationalistic crap.

The wars are coming.

Completely off with the ****ing fairys, as always.

The neo right is rising as always happens when
politicians ignore the wishes of the electorate.
Especially over the migration business.

They dont have any tanks to send in to Britain, stupid.

And you can blame the EU for this.

Only if you dont have a ****ing clue about the basics.

On 21/05/16 10:56, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Another John
wrote:

Absolutely not. It's nations that you are talking about in your rant
above, and it behoves you to remember that nations in western Europe
(that is: the EU, and its aspirant members) haven't fought each other
since WWII.

You appear to be overlooking the Balkan wars of the 1990s. So easy to
do, isn't it.

Ah but since there are no longer any nations within the EU - merely
regions - any conflicts that arise are not 'wars' they are 'civil
disturbances'

Its a brilliant bit of Lefty**** Orwellian doublethink

--
€œIt is hard to imagine a more stupid decision or more dangerous way of
making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people
who pay no price for being wrong.€�

Thomas Sowell

On 21/05/16 11:15, Another John wrote:
In article ,
Tim Streater wrote:

In article , Another John
wrote:

Absolutely not. It's nations that you are talking about in your rant
above, and it behoves you to remember that nations in western Europe
(that is: the EU, and its aspirant members) haven't fought each other
since WWII.

You appear to be overlooking the Balkan wars of the 1990s. So easy to
do, isn't it.

I said "the EU". I did make the slip (through multiple revision) of
saying _at that point_ "and its aspirant members".

The Balkan wars of the 1990s are precisely the example I'm thinking
about when I speak of cutting throats, and the fear of "things slipping
back": there are "Harrys" by the million in the former Yugoslavia.

And I am not saying that I myself would not be a violent, bloody racist,
if members of my family had been slaughtered in the last generation. But
I am fortunate to have been born on this island; fortunate that my
parents' generation survived WWII, fortunate to have centuries of
[internal] peace behind me.

Why should I wish to deny this blessing (of peace) to the "aspirant
members" of the EU?

Any moment now someone will mention "jaw jaw"...


But come: Yes - I make a slip, and thus my entire case collapses and can
be put to one side: the attitude of lawyers, insurance agents, and right
wingers since time immemorial.

John

BTW don't get the idea that I swallow the EU lock stock and barrel (is
that a mixed metaphor?). There are many things I hate about it, but as
the famous WW1 cartoon said: "If you knows of a better 'ole, go to it."

Well we do, that's why we are voting brexit.


--
"I am inclined to tell the truth and dislike people who lie consistently.
This makes me unfit for the company of people of a Left persuasion, and
all women"

On 21/05/16 14:19, dennis@home wrote:
On 21/05/2016 07:36, harry wrote:
On Friday, 20 May 2016 11:12:52 UTC+1, Mark wrote:
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/featur...-2014052086715

Every one of our pilots in the Battle of Britain was a racist.
They had to hate Germans to kill them.
Good thing too.

Only an idiot thinks that or some low life that will try anything to
justify his pathetic beliefs. I think you are probably both.

Its an interesting point. If someone kills all your family, is it
reasonable to hate them, and if someone threatens to kills your family,
is it prejudicial and bigoted to prevent them?

Racism is not 'hating another race' it is 'hating another race with no
good reason'

Of course the Lefty****s are the big haters for no reason. Try telling
them you have decided to vote UKIP, or that you on balance think Brexit
is a good idea, or that climate changes is not what its cracked up to be.




--
"I am inclined to tell the truth and dislike people who lie consistently.
This makes me unfit for the company of people of a Left persuasion, and
all women"

On 21/05/16 17:32, dennis@home wrote:
On 21/05/2016 16:17, harry wrote:

You can't kill someone you don't hate.

Rubbish.
You just need a good enough reason.



It's an article of faith though, for dennis.

I had my cat put down because I loved it.

I didn't like my mother much really, silly woman really, but I would
have put her down too, not out of hate, but out of compassion. She
suffered far more than the cat.

Killing enemies is just basic survival. Hate is not in it.


--
Future generations will wonder in bemused amazement that the early
twenty-first centurys developed world went into hysterical panic over a
globally average temperature increase of a few tenths of a degree, and,
on the basis of gross exaggerations of highly uncertain computer
projections combined into implausible chains of inference, proceeded to
contemplate a rollback of the industrial age.

Richard Lindzen

On Saturday, 21 May 2016 17:57:13 UTC+1, polygonum wrote:
On 21/05/2016 16:17, harry wrote:
You can't kill someone you don't hate.

At least one thing that you have clearly not understood is duty.

--
Rod

Yes, duty.
It's their duty to hate and kill the enemy.

"Tonight you are going to the Big City. You will have the opportunity to light a fire in the belly of the enemy that will burn his black heart out."

"The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everyone else, and nobody was going to bomb them. At Rotterdam, London, Warsaw and half a hundred other places, they put their rather naive theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind."

"the aim of the Combined Bomber Offensive...should be unambiguously stated [as] the destruction of German cities, the killing of German workers, and the disruption of civilised life throughout Germany.

.... the destruction of houses, public utilities, transport and lives, the creation of a refugee problem on an unprecedented scale, and the breakdown of morale both at home and at the battle fronts by fear of extended and intensified bombing, are accepted and intended aims of our bombing policy. They are not by-products of attempts to hit factories."

Arthur Harris.

That's what your father was told.
It was necessary to whip up hatred to win the war.

Even more so if you're going to stab someone with a bayonet.

And you might look at this.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p031k2zj

harry wrote
polygonum wrote
harry wrote

You can't kill someone you don't hate.

Even sillier than you usually manage.

At least one thing that you have clearly not understood is duty.

Yes, duty.
It's their duty to hate and kill the enemy.

Nope, just to kill them when ordered to do that when
that is clearly the sensible thing to do in that situation
and isnt a war crime. It is never their duty to hate.

"Tonight you are going to the Big City. You will have the opportunity
to light a fire in the belly of the enemy that will burn his black heart
out."

No requirement to hate there, just an attempt to get some
to do what they would otherwise be reluctant to do.

"The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they
were going to bomb everyone else, and nobody was going to bomb them.

Even sillier than that individual usually managed.

At Rotterdam, London, Warsaw and half a hundred other
places, they put their rather naive theory into operation. They
sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind."

Nothing about hate there.

"the aim of the Combined Bomber Offensive...should be unambiguously
stated [as] the destruction of German cities, the killing of German
workers,
and the disruption of civilised life throughout Germany.

Which involved deliberately killing vast numbers of women
and children by burning and asphyxiating them to death.
None of whom had ever done anyone in any of Germany's
enemys any harm.

... the destruction of houses, public utilities, transport and
lives, the creation of a refugee problem on an unprecedented
scale, and the breakdown of morale both at home and at the
battle fronts by fear of extended and intensified bombing, are
accepted and intended aims of our bombing policy.

And it turns out he didnt achieve his aims on the morale.

They are not by-products of attempts to hit factories."

Arthur Harris.

That's what your father was told.
It was necessary to whip up hatred to win the war.

That isnt whipping up hatred, that is just
stating what bomber command was doing.

Even more so if you're going to stab someone with a bayonet.

There was **** all of that in WW2.

And you might look at this.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p031k2zj

Doesnt say anything like your mindless silly **** about hate.

In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 21/05/16 14:19, dennis@home wrote:
On 21/05/2016 07:36, harry wrote:
On Friday, 20 May 2016 11:12:52 UTC+1, Mark wrote:
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/featur...-2014052086715

Every one of our pilots in the Battle of Britain was a racist.
They had to hate Germans to kill them.
Good thing too.

Only an idiot thinks that or some low life that will try anything to
justify his pathetic beliefs. I think you are probably both.

Its an interesting point. If someone kills all your family, is it
reasonable to hate them, and if someone threatens to kills your family,
is it prejudicial and bigoted to prevent them?

In a war it's another country or countries you're fighting against. Very
rarely an individual. If your family was killed by a bomb, do you hate the
'someone' who pulled the trigger, the pilot of the plane, the commander
who sent them out - or even the maker of the bomb?

Racism is not 'hating another race' it is 'hating another race with no
good reason'

And you consider the Germans a race apart? So I take it you hate our Royal
family too?

Of course the Lefty****s are the big haters for no reason. Try telling
them you have decided to vote UKIP, or that you on balance think Brexit
is a good idea, or that climate changes is not what its cracked up to be.

Easy answer to that. Just look at those in UKIP. An evil bunch, if ever
there was one. Many don't want their country run by evil men. But no
surprise you are a supporter.

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In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
I didn't like my mother much

No surprise there. ;-)

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On Sunday, 22 May 2016 02:10:05 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 21/05/16 14:19, dennis@home wrote:
On 21/05/2016 07:36, harry wrote:
On Friday, 20 May 2016 11:12:52 UTC+1, Mark wrote:
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/featur...-2014052086715

Every one of our pilots in the Battle of Britain was a racist.
They had to hate Germans to kill them.
Good thing too.

Only an idiot thinks that or some low life that will try anything to
justify his pathetic beliefs. I think you are probably both.

Its an interesting point. If someone kills all your family, is it
reasonable to hate them, and if someone threatens to kills your family,
is it prejudicial and bigoted to prevent them?

Racism is not 'hating another race' it is 'hating another race with no
good reason'


No, that's a phobia.
Xenophobia.

On Sat, 21 May 2016 23:10:55 -0700, harry wrote:

"Tonight you are going to the Big City. You will have the opportunity to
light a fire in the belly of the enemy that will burn his black heart
out."

"The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they
were going to bomb everyone else, and nobody was going to bomb them. At
Rotterdam, London, Warsaw and half a hundred other places, they put
their rather naive theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now
they are going to reap the whirlwind."

"the aim of the Combined Bomber Offensive...should be unambiguously
stated [as] the destruction of German cities, the killing of German
workers, and the disruption of civilised life throughout Germany.

... the destruction of houses, public utilities, transport and lives,
the creation of a refugee problem on an unprecedented scale, and the
breakdown of morale both at home and at the battle fronts by fear of
extended and intensified bombing, are accepted and intended aims of our
bombing policy. They are not by-products of attempts to hit factories."

The policy of "total war." But the Nazis came up with the concept first
like it was some kind of virtue. Bomber Harris merely replied in kind.
Anyway, thankfully we're all the best of friends now. ;-}

On Sun, 22 May 2016 02:03:34 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Ah but since there are no longer any nations within the EU - merely
regions - any conflicts that arise are not 'wars' they are 'civil
disturbances'

Its a brilliant bit of Lefty**** Orwellian doublethink

But with horrific implications...

On Sun, 22 May 2016 12:56:47 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Easy answer to that. Just look at those in UKIP. An evil bunch, if ever
there was one.

??? You're a demonstrable ****ing nutcase, Plowperson! You belong in the
loony bin.

On Sun, 22 May 2016 08:59:03 -0700, harry wrote:

On Sunday, 22 May 2016 02:10:05 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Racism is not 'hating another race' it is 'hating another race with no
good reason'


No, that's a phobia.
Xenophobia.

No, that's *fearing* outsiders. And there's a bloody good reason for
doing so in many cases.

On 22/05/2016 02:13, The Natural Philosopher wrote:


I didn't like my mother much really, silly woman really, but I would
have put her down too, not out of hate, but out of compassion. She
suffered far more than the cat.

Killing enemies is just basic survival. Hate is not in it.


seems to be a psychological wriggle there

On 22/05/2016 12:56, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 21/05/16 14:19, dennis@home wrote:
On 21/05/2016 07:36, harry wrote:
On Friday, 20 May 2016 11:12:52 UTC+1, Mark wrote:
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/featur...-2014052086715

Every one of our pilots in the Battle of Britain was a racist.
They had to hate Germans to kill them.
Good thing too.

Only an idiot thinks that or some low life that will try anything to
justify his pathetic beliefs. I think you are probably both.

Its an interesting point. If someone kills all your family, is it
reasonable to hate them, and if someone threatens to kills your family,
is it prejudicial and bigoted to prevent them?

In a war it's another country or countries you're fighting against. Very
rarely an individual. If your family was killed by a bomb, do you hate the
'someone' who pulled the trigger, the pilot of the plane, the commander
who sent them out - or even the maker of the bomb?

Racism is not 'hating another race' it is 'hating another race with no
good reason'

And you consider the Germans a race apart? So I take it you hate our Royal
family too?

Of course the Lefty****s are the big haters for no reason. Try telling
them you have decided to vote UKIP, or that you on balance think Brexit
is a good idea, or that climate changes is not what its cracked up to be.

Easy answer to that. Just look at those in UKIP. An evil bunch, if ever
there was one. Many don't want their country run by evil men. But no
surprise you are a supporter.

I have looked. They seem quite a decent bunch, I have a couple of
friends in UKIP and they're the hardworking sort.

Are you MM in disguise? Why are you so fearful of the UK leaving the EU?

In article ,
Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 22 May 2016 12:56:47 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Easy answer to that. Just look at those in UKIP. An evil bunch, if ever
there was one.

??? You're a demonstrable ****ing nutcase, Plowperson! You belong in the
loony bin.

See what I mean...

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Dave Plowman London SW
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Rod Speed wrote:
harry wrote
Mark wrote

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/featur...-2014052086715

Every one of our pilots in the Battle of Britain was a racist.

Bull****, the krauts were the same race as most of the Brit pilots.

They had to hate Germans to kill them.

Even sillier than you usually manage.

And I don't recall too many of those pilots
in the Battle of Britain who hated your kraut
royals so much that they tried to kill them.

Good thing too.

I am a culturalist.

Nope, a rabid pig ignorant bigot.

I hate f*****g muslims.

How do you feel about the ones that
**** less than the average muslim ?

And socialists.

And yet you spend most of your pathetic excuse
for a 'life' working for one of the most socialist
operations in the entire ****ing country, the NHS.

And anyone else who erodes my freedoms.

You are free to be as rabidly bigoted as you like.


Anybody want to chat with this stupid Australian dickbrain?
http://www.sensationbot.com/jschat.php?db=rodspeed

On 22/05/16 18:20, critcher wrote:
On 22/05/2016 02:13, The Natural Philosopher wrote:


I didn't like my mother much really, silly woman really, but I would
have put her down too, not out of hate, but out of compassion. She
suffered far more than the cat.

Killing enemies is just basic survival. Hate is not in it.


seems to be a psychological wriggle there

If you don't see the difference between red hot rage and reluctant
necessity, then you are psychologically damaged.

But then, most Labour voters are that way.


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conventions is invited to try transgressing those conventions from the
windows of my apartment. (I live on the twenty-first floor.) "

Alan Sokal

"harry" wrote in message
...
On Sunday, 22 May 2016 02:10:05 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 21/05/16 14:19, dennis@home wrote:
On 21/05/2016 07:36, harry wrote:
On Friday, 20 May 2016 11:12:52 UTC+1, Mark wrote:
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/featur...-2014052086715

Every one of our pilots in the Battle of Britain was a racist.
They had to hate Germans to kill them.
Good thing too.

Only an idiot thinks that or some low life that will try anything to
justify his pathetic beliefs. I think you are probably both.

Its an interesting point. If someone kills all your family, is it
reasonable to hate them, and if someone threatens to kills your family,
is it prejudicial and bigoted to prevent them?

Racism is not 'hating another race' it is 'hating another race with no
good reason'


No, that's a phobia.

Nope, no fear involved.

Xenophobia.