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On Tuesday, 17 May 2016 22:27:18 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 17/05/16 21:04, Adrian wrote:
On 17/05/2016 20:42, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
It wasn't Christians who first crossed the Atlantic or the Pacific
oceans.

WEll that is debatable. the Vikings were sort of half Christian.

blink
He didn't really, did he?

Oh, ffs...!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ...of_Scandinavia

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New Socialism consists essentially in being seen to have your heart in
the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in
someone else's pocket.

Thought you might like to add this one to your list.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy.
Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery"
-Winston Churchill

Just because some fool claims something...

On Tuesday, 17 May 2016 20:39:08 UTC+1, polygonum wrote:
On 17/05/2016 17:24, harry wrote:
Did a Chinese junk ever sail up the medieval Thames?

Certainly got as far as Cape Verde.

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Rod

Oh?

On 18/05/16 04:21, wrote:


"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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On 17/05/16 17:36, Adrian wrote:


It wasn't Christians who first crossed the Atlantic or the Pacific
oceans.

WEll that is debatable.

Nope.

the Vikings were sort of half Christian.

Like hell they were at the time they first did that.

The Christianisation of Scandinavia happened between the 8th and 12th
centuries, the purported 'discovery' of America in the 10th.

I stand by my statement.

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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On 18/05/16 04:21, wrote:


"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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On 17/05/16 17:36, Adrian wrote:


It wasn't Christians who first crossed the Atlantic or the Pacific
oceans.

WEll that is debatable.

Nope.

the Vikings were sort of half Christian.

Like hell they were at the time they first did that.

The Christianisation of Scandinavia happened between the 8th and 12th
centuries,

But not of the VIKINGS, let alone those who had colonised Greenland
who were the ones who had also investigated America.

the purported 'discovery' of America in the 10th.

Nothing purported about it;

I stand by my statement.

You can stand anywhere you like, you are just plain wrong.

On Tuesday, 17 May 2016 17:27:50 UTC+1, harry wrote:
On Tuesday, 17 May 2016 12:17:26 UTC+1, whisky-dave wrote:
On Sunday, 15 May 2016 17:06:40 UTC+1, harry wrote:
On Sunday, 15 May 2016 02:20:33 UTC+1, Fredxxx wrote:
On 14/05/2016 16:32, Bill Wright wrote:
On 14/05/2016 09:43, wrote:
On Saturday, 14 May 2016 02:38:24 UTC+1, Bill Wright wrote:
'Christian' has a capital 'C'. The attitude of tolerance is a
characteristic of modern western thought, because of our Christian
heritage.

Our Christian heritage is just as intolerant as any other.

Christ preached that we should turn the other cheek, live and let live,
help the weak. Quite different to certain other prophets.

Religions promote a way of life. If successful it expands to meet limits
imposed by land, food or other supplies.

Yes, other religions have different values. Some follow an eye for an
eye, and a tooth for a tooth. But that makes for an aggressive,
toothless and blind society.

Religion were created to empower a priestly minority

I'm not sure that was true I believe origianly it was self preservation and to understand teh enviroment. Later the more maniplative found they could use it to their advantage.

No, the priestly class claimed to have knowledge that others were not privy to.
Most promised life after death. But only if you believed in their particular sky fairy.

Originaly the 'sky fairy' was the sun. Beleived that it's existance gave us life was and is pretty true. The associated Gods with the seasons and weather.

On Tuesday, 17 May 2016 17:29:01 UTC+1, charles wrote:
In article ,
harry wrote:
On Sunday, 15 May 2016 13:25:31 UTC+1, Fredxxx wrote:
On 15/05/2016 09:35, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 15/05/16 02:20, Fredxxx wrote:
Religions promote a way of life. If successful it expands to meet
limits imposed by land, food or other supplies.


AT last someone who gets it...


Yes, other religions have different values. Some follow an eye for an
eye, and a tooth for a tooth. But that makes for an aggressive,
toothless and blind society.


And one ill adapted to scale well and do science and create
technology.


Christianity created the world that allowed science and technology to
flourish.

That's simply not true. Many civilisation were far advanced of the
Christian world. It's only in the past 2 or 3 centuries science has
moved forward, and this in spite of 2,000 years of Christianity.

The peak of UK Christianity was the dark ages.

Drivel.
Christians went out and explored the world.
Did a Chinese junk ever sail up the medieval Thames?


we don;t know but the vikings did.

but they did invent gunpowder

and paper, printing, and the compass.

In article , says...

Is there anyone in the London area prepared to do anything about this
outrageous slogan that will soon appear on the buses? I can think of
lots of things that could be done.

Bill

Perhaps you'd prefer this version, Bill?

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24301298/no-cod.jpg

Or why not create your own?

http://ruletheweb.co.uk/b3ta/bus/

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Terry

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