Brian Gaff wrote

Actually, its probably more like, we don't know, but better the devil you
know.

In this case both devils are known, because Britain was once outside the
EEC,

the snag is that half the gov think this way, and the rest say go for
broke, literally if the doom mongers are to be believed.

That last is always a lie.

If people had a true choice it would mean a trial seperation of at least
one term of government to let us see what being out is like.

Just not feasible with something like that.

as nobody would commit to this piece of gambling,

Because it isnt feasible in this situation.

then everybody is in the dark

Nope, it is obvious what the most important upsides and downsides are.

and you need to just use your gut reaction.

Stupid approach IMO.

Mine is to stay in, if for no other reason than its easier to change
olicies if you are in the club than if you are not.

But if you aren't in the club, you don’t care what its policys are.

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will happen economically if we leave the EU'
Official: 'What conclusion would you like it to reach?'
Osborne: 'That it would be a disaster, of course'
Official: 'Certainly Sir; no problem'.

Another 'Dodgy Dossier' !

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In article ,
Rod Speed wrote:
Actually, its probably more like, we don't know, but better the devil
you know.

In this case both devils are known, because Britain was once outside the
EEC,

And things were very different then. Loads of North Sea oil and gas in the
offing.

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On Friday, 29 April 2016 11:10:20 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Rod Speed wrote:
Actually, its probably more like, we don't know, but better the devil
you know.

In this case both devils are known, because Britain was once outside the
EEC,

And things were very different then. Loads of North Sea oil and gas in the
offing.

The main difernce now is the internet. I dontl need to go to the local shop to buy a shirt I ordered 5 from the USA in less time than it would take me to walk to the shops.

Previously you have to grease the palms of traders to get what you want now it seems you have to grease the arseholes of politions to get anything.

"whisky-dave" wrote in message
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On Friday, 29 April 2016 11:10:20 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Rod Speed wrote:
Actually, its probably more like, we don't know, but better the devil
you know.

In this case both devils are known, because Britain was once outside
the
EEC,

And things were very different then. Loads of North Sea oil and gas in
the
offing.

The main difernce now is the internet. I dontl need to go to the local
shop to buy a
shirt I ordered 5 from the USA in less time than it would take me to walk
to the shops.

And amazingly, that was with Britain inside the EU.

Previously you have to grease the palms of traders to get what you want

You still do have to pay for what you want most of the time.

now it seems you have to grease the arseholes of politions to get
anything.

That Freud fella is spinning in his grave, boy.

On Friday, 29 April 2016 11:59:45 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Friday, 29 April 2016 11:10:20 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Rod Speed wrote:
Actually, its probably more like, we don't know, but better the devil
you know.

In this case both devils are known, because Britain was once outside
the
EEC,

And things were very different then. Loads of North Sea oil and gas in
the
offing.

The main difernce now is the internet. I dontl need to go to the local
shop to buy a
shirt I ordered 5 from the USA in less time than it would take me to walk
to the shops.

And amazingly, that was with Britain inside the EU.

Really what makes you think that?
We're not inside it we are part of it.

check out teh price of donald trump toilet paper in the UK and US and how much I'd have to pay to get a roll.

via amazon UK £43
Via amazon USA $11.95
via amazon aus cana;t get it.

Now is that because AUS isn't in the EU or because it isn't in the USA ?


Previously you have to grease the palms of traders to get what you want

You still do have to pay for what you want most of the time.

That's how it should be so where and how do tarrifs come in.



now it seems you have to grease the arseholes of politions to get
anything.

That Freud fella is spinning in his grave, boy.

Well at least he's well lubricated.

In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
The main difernce now is the internet. I dontl need to go to the local
shop to buy a shirt I ordered 5 from the USA in less time than it would
take me to walk to the shops.

Your shops must be a very long walk if shirts from the USA arrived as
quickly.

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On Friday, 29 April 2016 14:16:54 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
The main difernce now is the internet. I dontl need to go to the local
shop to buy a shirt I ordered 5 from the USA in less time than it would
take me to walk to the shops.

Your shops must be a very long walk if shirts from the USA arrived as
quickly.

10-20 days for free P&P I'm in no hurry, and as I can't shop in such shops monday-friday.
And the T-shirts are less than hallf the price I'd pay in the UK.

If you want to know how to save money on important products check out the price of donald trump toilet papper from the USA and UK, whe should it be cheaper from ?

In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 29 April 2016 14:16:54 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
The main difernce now is the internet. I dontl need to go to the
local shop to buy a shirt I ordered 5 from the USA in less time than
it would take me to walk to the shops.

Your shops must be a very long walk if shirts from the USA arrived as
quickly.

10-20 days for free P&P I'm in no hurry, and as I can't shop in such
shops monday-friday.

But you can order them online. While at work. ;-)

And the T-shirts are less than hallf the price I'd
pay in the UK.

You've checked every source? Like Lidl and Aldi?

If you want to know how to save money on important products check out
the price of donald trump toilet papper from the USA and UK, whe should
it be cheaper from ?

Does anyone care?

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On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 14:10:36 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
The main difernce now is the internet. I dontl need to go to the local
shop to buy a shirt I ordered 5 from the USA in less time than it would
take me to walk to the shops.

Your shops must be a very long walk if shirts from the USA arrived as
quickly.

Spot the deliberate (?) mistake.

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On 29/04/16 16:30, Martin Barclay wrote:
On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 14:10:36 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
The main difernce now is the internet. I dontl need to go to the local
shop to buy a shirt I ordered 5 from the USA in less time than it would
take me to walk to the shops.

Your shops must be a very long walk if shirts from the USA arrived as
quickly.

Spot the deliberate (?) mistake.

Its plowperson, master of the deliberate mistake, that is generally
called 'socialism'.


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Dave Plowman (News) wrote
Rod Speed wrote

Actually, its probably more like, we don't
know, but better the devil you know.

In this case both devils are known, because
Britain was once outside the EEC,

And things were very different then.

But in fact one of the devils, what the EEC would
become, was much less well known that it is now.

Loads of North Sea oil and gas in the offing.

And given that Norway had chosen to be part of the
EEC, it made sense for Britain to be part of it too so
that there was no possibility of Norway getting the
EEC to impose tariff barriers or quotas to British
exports of that oil and gas to the EEC.

Still no unknown devil.