I need to do some small repairs to one end of a barge board and the
adjacent soffit so I was wondering about getting a ladder stand-off to
fit around the house corner, either:
http://www.tesco.com/direct/tb-davie...f/738-1604.prd
or
http://www.laddersandscaffoldtowers....-Off-Stay.html.
The first is much cheaper and it would be easy to add a lightweight
shelf to the frame.
Has anyone used this type? Are the wheeled ones worthwhile? Any other
recommendations?

What about ladder feet - any recommendations?

On 24/02/2016 09:45, wrote:
I need to do some small repairs to one end of a barge board and the
adjacent soffit so I was wondering about getting a ladder stand-off to
fit around the house corner, either:
http://www.tesco.com/direct/tb-davie...f/738-1604.prd
or
http://www.laddersandscaffoldtowers....-Off-Stay.html.
The first is much cheaper and it would be easy to add a lightweight
shelf to the frame.
Has anyone used this type? Are the wheeled ones worthwhile? Any other
recommendations?

I needed to get one a few months ago to fix a leaking gutter - got one
from Screwfix for about £25. It did the job, and was easy enough to
attach and detach. The one you noted from Tesco direct looks a bit
cheaper and may be better.


What about ladder feet - any recommendations?

No experience of these, sorry.

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On 24/02/2016 10:21, Clive Page wrote:
On 24/02/2016 09:45, wrote:
I need to do some small repairs to one end of a barge board and the
adjacent soffit so I was wondering about getting a ladder stand-off to
fit around the house corner, either:
http://www.tesco.com/direct/tb-davie...f/738-1604.prd

or
http://www.laddersandscaffoldtowers....-Off-Stay.html.

The first is much cheaper and it would be easy to add a lightweight
shelf to the frame.
Has anyone used this type? Are the wheeled ones worthwhile? Any other
recommendations?

I needed to get one a few months ago to fix a leaking gutter - got one
from Screwfix for about £25. It did the job, and was easy enough to
attach and detach. The one you noted from Tesco direct looks a bit
cheaper and may be better.

Thanks, how does the latch work?


What about ladder feet - any recommendations?

No experience of these, sorry.

On 24/02/2016 10:56, wrote:
Thanks, how does the latch work?

There are hooks for the bracket which go over a rung, and then another
hook-shaped bit on a spring which you pull down until it goes over the
next rung down. The spring is quite strong so it seems to make a fairly
firm fixing. I was a bit doubtful but in practice it works. All of
those I looked at seem to use the same system, but whether they work or
not will depend a bit on the width of the rungs and their spacing, and I
guess that may vary from one brand to another.

I took a chance with my Screwfix one, knowing that they would take it
back without too much fuss it it wasn't suitable.

--
Clive Page

On 25/02/16 10:13, Clive Page wrote:
On 24/02/2016 10:56, wrote:
Thanks, how does the latch work?

There are hooks for the bracket which go over a rung, and then another
hook-shaped bit on a spring which you pull down until it goes over the
next rung down. The spring is quite strong so it seems to make a fairly
firm fixing. I was a bit doubtful but in practice it works. All of
those I looked at seem to use the same system, but whether they work or
not will depend a bit on the width of the rungs and their spacing, and I
guess that may vary from one brand to another.

I took a chance with my Screwfix one, knowing that they would take it
back without too much fuss it it wasn't suitable.


A good chance.

Buying something like this from Tesco, ye are never quite sure whether
it's been assembled with something from their cheese counter ...


I bought mine online. Very useful, except that the unwieldy mass at the
top of the ladder adds a bit of inertia when waving it about for
position (especially with 5m+ ladders), and ye might be raising and
lowering the ladder to get that position right.

Concentrate, don't want to put it through a window or snag the phone
line ...

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On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 10:21:59 +0000, Clive Page wrote:

On 24/02/2016 09:45, wrote:
I need to do some small repairs to one end of a barge board and the
adjacent soffit so I was wondering about getting a ladder stand-off to
fit around the house corner, either:
http://www.tesco.com/direct/tb-davie...f/738-1604.prd
or
http://www.laddersandscaffoldtowers....-Off-Stay.html.
The first is much cheaper and it would be easy to add a lightweight
shelf to the frame.
Has anyone used this type? Are the wheeled ones worthwhile? Any other
recommendations?

I needed to get one a few months ago to fix a leaking gutter - got one
from Screwfix for about £25. It did the job, and was easy enough to
attach and detach. The one you noted from Tesco direct looks a bit
cheaper and may be better.


What about ladder feet - any recommendations?

No experience of these, sorry.

On the recommendation of TMH I bought these
http://www.globeladders.co.uk/rubber...ip-system.html
(not from that site - couldn't remember where) and find them very useful.
--
Peter.
The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway

On 24/02/16 09:45, wrote:
I need to do some small repairs to one end of a barge board and the
adjacent soffit so I was wondering about getting a ladder stand-off to
fit around the house corner, either:
http://www.tesco.com/direct/tb-davie...f/738-1604.prd
or
http://www.laddersandscaffoldtowers....-Off-Stay.html.
The first is much cheaper and it would be easy to add a lightweight
shelf to the frame.
Has anyone used this type? Are the wheeled ones worthwhile? Any other
recommendations?


No - both dangerous IMHO. No means to clamp it to the ladder, it looks
like they just hook on.

I have a simple but strong tubular ali one that clamps on with out fuss
and is light but strong.


What about ladder feet - any recommendations?


Yes - These:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/LadderMat-La.../dp/B0055R1F3Y

They work well on concrete and mud and can level it to a certain degree
(eg you use 2 one side, 1 the other, or 3 one side, 1 the other.

On 24/02/2016 10:37, Tim Watts wrote:
On 24/02/16 09:45, wrote:
I need to do some small repairs to one end of a barge board and the
adjacent soffit so I was wondering about getting a ladder stand-off to
fit around the house corner, either:
http://www.tesco.com/direct/tb-davie...f/738-1604.prd

or
http://www.laddersandscaffoldtowers....-Off-Stay.html.

The first is much cheaper and it would be easy to add a lightweight
shelf to the frame.
Has anyone used this type? Are the wheeled ones worthwhile? Any other
recommendations?

No - both dangerous IMHO. No means to clamp it to the ladder, it looks
like they just hook on.

I thought that initially, but they seem to have a latch that hooks
around a rung. It should be easy to modify if it didn't inspire confidence.

I have a simple but strong tubular ali one that clamps on with out fuss
and is light but strong.


What about ladder feet - any recommendations?


Yes - These:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/LadderMat-La.../dp/B0055R1F3Y


They work well on concrete and mud and can level it to a certain degree
(eg you use 2 one side, 1 the other, or 3 one side, 1 the other.

Thanks.

On 24/02/2016 10:37, Tim Watts wrote:
On 24/02/16 09:45, wrote:
I need to do some small repairs to one end of a barge board and the
adjacent soffit so I was wondering about getting a ladder stand-off to
fit around the house corner, either:
http://www.tesco.com/direct/tb-davie...f/738-1604.prd

or
http://www.laddersandscaffoldtowers....-Off-Stay.html.

The first is much cheaper and it would be easy to add a lightweight
shelf to the frame.
Has anyone used this type? Are the wheeled ones worthwhile? Any other
recommendations?


No - both dangerous IMHO. No means to clamp it to the ladder, it looks
like they just hook on.

If you look at the Tesco one you can just see part of the usual hook and
spring fastening and it is in the description of the other one.

I have had a standoff since the late 80's when I was replacing
guttering. They are good because they mean you do noy have to lean
backwards when working on the sffits and barge boards. The only mistake
I made when buying mine was to buy a steel one. Difficult to use on a
lightweight aluminium ladder

Malcolm

Malcolm Race a écrit :
If you look at the Tesco one you can just see part of the usual hook and
spring fastening and it is in the description of the other one.

Reading this thread and having needed / lacked one in the past when
installing new soffits, facias and gutters- I ordered the Tesco version
last week, delivered yesterday. Seems well built/ robust enough for the
job, but as someone pointed out - it lacks the 'cushions' in the V for
working on a corner. I have solved that by adding some 15mm copper pipe
insulation in the V.

It hooks onto two rungs, then a fairly stong spring keeps it in place.
The spring is more than adequate.

On 28/02/2016 08:36, Harry Bloomfield wrote:


Reading this thread and having needed / lacked one in the past when
installing new soffits, facias and gutters- I ordered the Tesco version
last week, delivered yesterday. Seems well built/ robust enough for the
job, but as someone pointed out - it lacks the 'cushions' in the V for
working on a corner.

That was me.

I have solved that by adding some 15mm copper pipe
insulation in the V.

Nice one!

It hooks onto two rungs, then a fairly strong spring keeps it in place.
The spring is more than adequate.

Ditto the one on my Homebase jobbie - needs quite a lot of effort to
hook it onto a rung, and unhook it. Mine lacks the 'V' for use on a
corner, though.
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On 24/02/2016 10:37, Tim Watts wrote:

What about ladder feet - any recommendations?


Yes - These:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/LadderMat-La.../dp/B0055R1F3Y

Yes these are very good.

Bill (aerial installer's dad)

On 24/02/2016 14:01, Bill Wright wrote:
On 24/02/2016 10:37, Tim Watts wrote:

What about ladder feet - any recommendations?


Yes - These:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/LadderMat-La.../dp/B0055R1F3Y


Yes these are very good.

Bill (aerial installer's dad)


So how many do you get for 19 quid? The picture shows four, but the text
suggests only one!
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Roger
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Roger Mills wrote:
So how many do you get for 19 quid? The picture shows four, but the
text suggests only one!

If you mean where it has "Item Package Quantity 1" I've scratched my
head on that before with Amazon. I think it's where someone is trying to
differentiate from the way the supplier ships them (eg in boxes of 5
sets of 4 mats). They are sold in sets of 4 mats.
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On 24/02/2016 15:44, Robin wrote:
Roger Mills wrote:
So how many do you get for 19 quid? The picture shows four, but the
text suggests only one!

If you mean where it has "Item Package Quantity 1" I've scratched my
head on that before with Amazon. I think it's where someone is trying to
differentiate from the way the supplier ships them (eg in boxes of 5
sets of 4 mats). They are sold in sets of 4 mats.

That's what I would hope - but couldn't find anything which actually
*said* it!
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On 24/02/16 15:04, Roger Mills wrote:
On 24/02/2016 14:01, Bill Wright wrote:
On 24/02/2016 10:37, Tim Watts wrote:

What about ladder feet - any recommendations?


Yes - These:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/LadderMat-La.../dp/B0055R1F3Y



Yes these are very good.

Bill (aerial installer's dad)


So how many do you get for 19 quid? The picture shows four, but the text
suggests only one!

4 (1 set)

On 24 Feb 2016, Roger Mills grunted:

On 24/02/2016 14:01, Bill Wright wrote:
On 24/02/2016 10:37, Tim Watts wrote:

What about ladder feet - any recommendations?


Yes - These:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/LadderMat-La...Slip-Accessory
/dp/B0055R1F3Y


Yes these are very good.

+1

So how many do you get for 19 quid? The picture shows four, but the
text suggests only one!

They're a set of four - the wire loop holds them together and they don't
come apart.

--
David

On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 09:45:35 +0000, no_spam wrote:

I need to do some small repairs to one end of a barge board and the
adjacent soffit so I was wondering about getting a ladder stand-off to
fit around the house corner, either:
http://www.tesco.com/direct/tb-davie...ownpipe-stand-
off/738-1604.prd
or
http://www.laddersandscaffoldtowers....der-Stand-Off-
Stay.html.
The first is much cheaper and it would be easy to add a lightweight
shelf to the frame.
Has anyone used this type? Are the wheeled ones worthwhile? Any other
recommendations?

What about ladder feet - any recommendations?

I used to have one bought in Homebase back in the time when they sold such
stuff, which was white steel tubing with four hooks in the tubing to fit
over two sets of rungs, and a seriously strong spring and a hook on the
end which fastened to a rung of the ladder.

This stood the end of the ladder back from the overhang and guttering and
also spread the load along the wall with two sideways arms instead of just
the two points of contact from a ladder tip.

Sadly lost a move or two ago.

Worked well for me.

More heavyweight than any I can Google at the moment, and even in them
days I think it was over £50 ('90s?).

Oh, and my current ladder had built in (allegedly adjustable) feet.

Cheers


Dave R

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David wrote:
On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 09:45:35 +0000, no_spam wrote:

I need to do some small repairs to one end of a barge board and the
adjacent soffit so I was wondering about getting a ladder stand-off to
fit around the house corner, either:
http://www.tesco.com/direct/tb-davie...ownpipe-stand-
off/738-1604.prd
or
http://www.laddersandscaffoldtowers....der-Stand-Off-
Stay.html.
The first is much cheaper and it would be easy to add a lightweight
shelf to the frame.
Has anyone used this type? Are the wheeled ones worthwhile? Any other
recommendations?

What about ladder feet - any recommendations?

I used to have one bought in Homebase back in the time when they sold such
stuff, which was white steel tubing with four hooks in the tubing to fit
over two sets of rungs, and a seriously strong spring and a hook on the
end which fastened to a rung of the ladder.

This stood the end of the ladder back from the overhang and guttering and
also spread the load along the wall with two sideways arms instead of just
the two points of contact from a ladder tip.

Sadly lost a move or two ago.

Worked well for me.

More heavyweight than any I can Google at the moment, and even in them
days I think it was over £50 ('90s?).

Oh, and my current ladder had built in (allegedly adjustable) feet.

Mine has two metal and plastic things that flap around at the bottom in
an annoying manner. I've no idea whether the bolts on them are supposed
to be tightened, or whether they are just there to hold them in place.
I'm tempted to remove them, but I've no idea if that would improve the
stability of the ladder, or not.

Cheers


Dave R

On 24/02/2016 11:33, David wrote:


I used to have one bought in Homebase back in the time when they sold such
stuff, which was white steel tubing with four hooks in the tubing to fit
over two sets of rungs, and a seriously strong spring and a hook on the
end which fastened to a rung of the ladder.

This stood the end of the ladder back from the overhang and guttering and
also spread the load along the wall with two sideways arms instead of just
the two points of contact from a ladder tip.


Yes, I've got one of those, and wouldn't be without it. It's so much
easier when you're standing a little way away from what you're working on.

Mine is only for straight walls though and isn't suitable to use on a
corner. If you're going to use one designed for a corner, it needs to
have rubber pads in the 'V' bit to stop it slipping on the brickwork.
The cheaper one cited by the OP doesn't appear to have any.
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On 24/02/2016 13:48, Roger Mills wrote:
On 24/02/2016 11:33, David wrote:


I used to have one bought in Homebase back in the time when they sold
such
stuff, which was white steel tubing with four hooks in the tubing to fit
over two sets of rungs, and a seriously strong spring and a hook on the
end which fastened to a rung of the ladder.

This stood the end of the ladder back from the overhang and guttering and
also spread the load along the wall with two sideways arms instead of
just
the two points of contact from a ladder tip.


Yes, I've got one of those, and wouldn't be without it. It's so much
easier when you're standing a little way away from what you're working on.

Mine is only for straight walls though and isn't suitable to use on a
corner. If you're going to use one designed for a corner, it needs to
have rubber pads in the 'V' bit to stop it slipping on the brickwork.
The cheaper one cited by the OP doesn't appear to have any.

+1
I've often tied a length of wood to it when working above windows so I
can still rest on the masonry

On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 09:45:35 +0000, no_spam wrote:

I need to do some small repairs to one end of a barge board and the
adjacent soffit so I was wondering about getting a ladder stand-off to
fit around the house corner, either:
http://www.tesco.com/direct/tb-davie...ownpipe-stand-
off/738-1604.prd
or
http://www.laddersandscaffoldtowers....der-Stand-Off-
Stay.html.
The first is much cheaper and it would be easy to add a lightweight
shelf to the frame.
Has anyone used this type? Are the wheeled ones worthwhile? Any other
recommendations?

What about ladder feet - any recommendations?

Just to add - one thing I like about standoffs is that you can attach them
about 2/3 up the top half of a two piece ladder and then when you are at
gutter height there is still some ladder above you which you can hold on
to.

I do not like standing near the top of the ladder which is tucked under
the guttering and working "freestyle" on the guttering with nothing
substantial to hold onto.

Cheers

Dave R

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On 24/02/2016 09:45, wrote:
I need to do some small repairs to one end of a barge board and the
adjacent soffit so I was wondering about getting a ladder stand-off to
fit around the house corner, either:
http://www.tesco.com/direct/tb-davie...f/738-1604.prd
or
http://www.laddersandscaffoldtowers....-Off-Stay.html.
The first is much cheaper and it would be easy to add a lightweight
shelf to the frame.
Has anyone used this type? Are the wheeled ones worthwhile? Any other
recommendations?

What about ladder feet - any recommendations?


Thanks to all - I was tempted to buy a cheapie and add a sheet of
aluminium to make a tray but have ordered one of these:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291244932663.

Having looked around at feet, the rubber pads seem to ne a little
controversial so I think for soft surfaces I'll make a cleated board to
spread the load and stake it to the ground.

On 24/02/2016 17:29, wrote:
On 24/02/2016 09:45, wrote:
I need to do some small repairs to one end of a barge board and the
adjacent soffit so I was wondering about getting a ladder stand-off to
fit around the house corner, either:
http://www.tesco.com/direct/tb-davie...f/738-1604.prd

or
http://www.laddersandscaffoldtowers....-Off-Stay.html.

The first is much cheaper and it would be easy to add a lightweight
shelf to the frame.
Has anyone used this type? Are the wheeled ones worthwhile? Any other
recommendations?

What about ladder feet - any recommendations?


Thanks to all - I was tempted to buy a cheapie and add a sheet of
aluminium to make a tray but have ordered one of these:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291244932663.

Having looked around at feet, the rubber pads seem to ne a little
controversial so I think for soft surfaces I'll make a cleated board to
spread the load and stake it to the ground.

It was dumped on the doorstep yesterday by Hermes - fortunately it's a
low crime area, but at least they put a card through the letterbox to
say they'd left it on the doorstep !!.
It seems much more solid than others I've seen, with the parts welded
together rather than being bent, but that means it's probably a little
heavier.
Now all I need is the right round tuit.

I'm 69 and still climbing ladders without mishap. As a child it was my job to pick fruit from trees. Invariably at some point the ladder would settle into the tree to the accompaniment of my fathers voice from below "keep hold of the ladder it can't fall through the tree because the branches get thicker as you go". I've never used movable feet, preferring the solid feel of the end of the stiles on the ground. Stand offs are useful additions but if you are only going to use occasionally think about hiring the item. Also consider zip up scaffold for ease of working.

On 24/02/2016 21:23, Jonno wrote:
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I need to do some small repairs to one end of a barge board and the
adjacent soffit so I was wondering about getting a ladder stand-off to
fit around the house corner, either:
http://www.tesco.com/direct/tb-davie...f/738-1604.prd
or
http://www.laddersandscaffoldtowers....-Off-Stay.html.
The first is much cheaper and it would be easy to add a lightweight
shelf to the frame.
Has anyone used this type? Are the wheeled ones worthwhile? Any other
recommendations?

What about ladder feet - any recommendations?


I saw a prat repairing a 1st floor window today. He was up a ladder
that was on concrete - no feet on it. When he told he should have
someone holding the bottom of the ladder he replied
"If I drop anything, the lad holding the ladder could get hurt"


So you can't go up a ladder on your own any more? Ridiculous

In article ,
Stuart Noble wrote:
On 24/02/2016 21:23, Jonno wrote:
scribbled


I need to do some small repairs to one end of a barge board and the
adjacent soffit so I was wondering about getting a ladder stand-off to
fit around the house corner, either:
http://www.tesco.com/direct/tb-davie...f/738-1604.prd
or
http://www.laddersandscaffoldtowers....-Off-Stay.html.
The first is much cheaper and it would be easy to add a lightweight
shelf to the frame.
Has anyone used this type? Are the wheeled ones worthwhile? Any other
recommendations?

What about ladder feet - any recommendations?


I saw a prat repairing a 1st floor window today. He was up a ladder
that was on concrete - no feet on it. When he told he should have
someone holding the bottom of the ladder he replied
"If I drop anything, the lad holding the ladder could get hurt"


So you can't go up a ladder on your own any more? Ridiculous

No - you need to do a Risk Assessment.

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from KT24 in Surrey, England

On 24/02/2016 21:23, Jonno wrote:


I saw a prat repairing a 1st floor window today. He was up a ladder
that was on concrete - no feet on it. When he told he should have
someone holding the bottom of the ladder he replied
"If I drop anything, the lad holding the ladder could get hurt"


A ladder at the correct angle isn't going to slip on a concrete floor
unless you grease it.