Are there any luddites in here still preferring the old fashioned
slotted screws?
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Bod wrote:
Are there any luddites in here still preferring the old fashioned
slotted screws?
Furniture restorers love em and will usually buy up old stock. The rest
of us realise the poziheads are generally superior to use especially
where they won't be seen.

On 10/01/2016 16:11, Bob Minchin wrote:
Bod wrote:
Are there any luddites in here still preferring the old fashioned
slotted screws?
Furniture restorers love em and will usually buy up old stock. The rest
of us realise the poziheads are generally superior to use especially
where they won't be seen.


Indeed.

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"Bob Minchin" wrote in message
...
Bod wrote:
Are there any luddites in here still preferring the old fashioned
slotted screws?
Furniture restorers love em and will usually buy up old stock. The rest of
us realise the poziheads are generally superior to use especially where
they won't be seen.


I would standardize all screws as PZ2s.

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On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 16:14:57 -0000, ARW wrote:

"Bob Minchin" wrote in message
...
Bod wrote:
Are there any luddites in here still preferring the old fashioned
slotted screws?
Furniture restorers love em and will usually buy up old stock. The rest of
us realise the poziheads are generally superior to use especially where
they won't be seen.

I would standardize all screws as PZ2s.

Agreed.

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On 10/01/2016 16:14, ARW wrote:
"Bob Minchin" wrote in message
...
Bod wrote:
Are there any luddites in here still preferring the old fashioned
slotted screws?
Furniture restorers love em and will usually buy up old stock. The
rest of us realise the poziheads are generally superior to use
especially where they won't be seen.


I would standardize all screws as PZ2s.

Might be a bit harsh for mobile phone manufacturers :-)

On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 16:22:56 -0000, Clive George wrote:

On 10/01/2016 16:14, ARW wrote:
"Bob Minchin" wrote in message
...
Bod wrote:
Are there any luddites in here still preferring the old fashioned
slotted screws?
Furniture restorers love em and will usually buy up old stock. The
rest of us realise the poziheads are generally superior to use
especially where they won't be seen.


I would standardize all screws as PZ2s.

Might be a bit harsh for mobile phone manufacturers :-)

What mobile phone manufacturers need to realise is a charging plug that's 0.000001mm thick is going to ****ing break!

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"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news
On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 16:22:56 -0000, Clive George
wrote:

On 10/01/2016 16:14, ARW wrote:
"Bob Minchin" wrote in message
...
Bod wrote:
Are there any luddites in here still preferring the old fashioned
slotted screws?
Furniture restorers love em and will usually buy up old stock. The
rest of us realise the poziheads are generally superior to use
especially where they won't be seen.


I would standardize all screws as PZ2s.

Might be a bit harsh for mobile phone manufacturers :-)

What mobile phone manufacturers need to realise is a charging plug that's
0.000001mm thick is going to ****ing break!

I've never broken one of the original Nokia
charging plugs, much thinner than anything else.

On 10/01/2016 16:14, ARW wrote:
"Bob Minchin" wrote in message
...
Bod wrote:
Are there any luddites in here still preferring the old fashioned
slotted screws?
Furniture restorers love em and will usually buy up old stock. The
rest of us realise the poziheads are generally superior to use
especially where they won't be seen.


I would standardize all screws as PZ2s.

I wouldn't, PZ3 is a good intermediary before you get to coach screws.
And PZ1 has its place on smaller stuff.

On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 17:01:27 -0000, newshound wrote:

On 10/01/2016 16:14, ARW wrote:
"Bob Minchin" wrote in message
...
Bod wrote:
Are there any luddites in here still preferring the old fashioned
slotted screws?
Furniture restorers love em and will usually buy up old stock. The
rest of us realise the poziheads are generally superior to use
especially where they won't be seen.


I would standardize all screws as PZ2s.

I wouldn't, PZ3 is a good intermediary before you get to coach screws.
And PZ1 has its place on smaller stuff.

As with everything, too many inbetweens. For example, why does a car need 5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20mm bolts? Why not just 5, 8, 11, 14, 17, 20?

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On 10/01/2016 17:37, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 17:01:27 -0000, newshound
wrote:

On 10/01/2016 16:14, ARW wrote:
"Bob Minchin" wrote in message
...
Bod wrote:
Are there any luddites in here still preferring the old fashioned
slotted screws?
Furniture restorers love em and will usually buy up old stock. The
rest of us realise the poziheads are generally superior to use
especially where they won't be seen.


I would standardize all screws as PZ2s.

I wouldn't, PZ3 is a good intermediary before you get to coach screws.
And PZ1 has its place on smaller stuff.

As with everything, too many inbetweens. For example, why does a car
need 5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20mm bolts? Why not just
5, 8, 11, 14, 17, 20?

The sme reason as why the Rolls Royce Meriln engine used a 3BA bolt in
one situation - because it was the correct engineering solution

Malcolm

Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 17:01:27 -0000, newshound
wrote:
On 10/01/2016 16:14, ARW wrote:
"Bob Minchin" wrote in
message ...
Bod wrote:
Are there any luddites in here still preferring the old fashioned
slotted screws?
Furniture restorers love em and will usually buy up old stock. The
rest of us realise the poziheads are generally superior to use
especially where they won't be seen.


I would standardize all screws as PZ2s.

I wouldn't, PZ3 is a good intermediary before you get to coach
screws. And PZ1 has its place on smaller stuff.

As with everything, too many inbetweens. For example, why does a car
need 5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20mm bolts? Why not
just 5, 8, 11, 14, 17, 20?

FFS PHucker******!
For just how long are you going to try to string this thread out by arguing
about a screw or a bolt?
We all know that you have mental health issues and that the world would be a
better place without you.
Try getting a job or a woman instead of wanking off here.

On 10/01/2016 17:37, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 17:01:27 -0000, newshound
wrote:

On 10/01/2016 16:14, ARW wrote:
"Bob Minchin" wrote in message
...
Bod wrote:
Are there any luddites in here still preferring the old fashioned
slotted screws?
Furniture restorers love em and will usually buy up old stock. The
rest of us realise the poziheads are generally superior to use
especially where they won't be seen.


I would standardize all screws as PZ2s.

I wouldn't, PZ3 is a good intermediary before you get to coach screws.
And PZ1 has its place on smaller stuff.

As with everything, too many inbetweens. For example, why does a car
need 5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20mm bolts? Why not just
5, 8, 11, 14, 17, 20?

Bad design. Nasty flat pack furniture from Argos will often have 5 or 6
different sizes of screws. Good design like IKEA rarely has more than 2.

--
Dave - The Medway Handyman

On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 17:37:35 -0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 17:01:27 -0000, newshound wrote:

On 10/01/2016 16:14, ARW wrote:
"Bob Minchin" wrote in message
...
Bod wrote:
Are there any luddites in here still preferring the old fashioned
slotted screws?
Furniture restorers love em and will usually buy up old stock. The
rest of us realise the poziheads are generally superior to use
especially where they won't be seen.


I would standardize all screws as PZ2s.

I wouldn't, PZ3 is a good intermediary before you get to coach screws.
And PZ1 has its place on smaller stuff.

As with everything, too many inbetweens. For example, why does a car need 5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20mm bolts? Why not just 5, 8, 11, 14, 17, 20?

I don't know the sizes, but apparently the Wooler flat-4 engine could be
dismantled with two open-ended spanners.
--
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The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway

En el artículo , ARW adamwadsworth@blueyond
er.co.uk escribió:

I would standardize all screws as PZ2s.

My favourite screwdrivers are long-shaft (12") PZ1 and PZ2.

Am I alone in having favourite screwdrivers? They're the ones I reach
for first, out of the collection of about two dozen in my toolbox.

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(")_(")

On 11/01/16 02:33, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artículo , ARW adamwadsworth@blueyond
er.co.uk escribió:

I would standardize all screws as PZ2s.

My favourite screwdrivers are long-shaft (12") PZ1 and PZ2.

Am I alone in having favourite screwdrivers? They're the ones I reach
for first, out of the collection of about two dozen in my toolbox.


My favourites are my Weras followed by the insulated ones for electrical
work.

On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 02:33:03 +0000, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

Am I alone in having favourite screwdrivers?

Anybody who doesn't, hasn't got enough screwdrivers.

On 11/01/2016 08:42, Adrian wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 02:33:03 +0000, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

Am I alone in having favourite screwdrivers?

Anybody who doesn't, hasn't got enough screwdrivers.

I prefer right handed ones.

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On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 08:42:51 -0000, Adrian wrote:

On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 02:33:03 +0000, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

Am I alone in having favourite screwdrivers?

Anybody who doesn't, hasn't got enough screwdrivers.

You need at least 5 of everything, that way you can always find one.

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Adrian wrote:

Mike Tomlinson wrote:

Am I alone in having favourite screwdrivers?

Anybody who doesn't, hasn't got enough screwdrivers.

But then you keep the old ones, supposedly for "rough" jobs, but always
use the good ones ...

On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 02:33:03 -0000, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

En el artículo , ARW adamwadsworth@blueyond
er.co.uk escribió:

I would standardize all screws as PZ2s.

My favourite screwdrivers are long-shaft (12") PZ1 and PZ2.

Am I alone in having favourite screwdrivers? They're the ones I reach
for first, out of the collection of about two dozen in my toolbox.

Too long, I'm always needing to get into small spaces with them.

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ARW wrote:
"Bob Minchin" wrote in message
...
Bod wrote:
Are there any luddites in here still preferring the old fashioned
slotted screws?
Furniture restorers love em and will usually buy up old stock. The
rest of us realise the poziheads are generally superior to use
especially where they won't be seen.


I would standardize all screws as PZ2s.

Or maybe the square ones that seem to be coming in vogue,I have less
trouble with them.

On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 03:15:44 -0000, F Murtz wrote:

ARW wrote:
"Bob Minchin" wrote in message
...
Bod wrote:
Are there any luddites in here still preferring the old fashioned
slotted screws?
Furniture restorers love em and will usually buy up old stock. The
rest of us realise the poziheads are generally superior to use
especially where they won't be seen.


I would standardize all screws as PZ2s.

Or maybe the square ones that seem to be coming in vogue,I have less
trouble with them.

I wonder which can take more torque? There must be a comparison chart somewhere. Or some simple law of Physics.

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On 10/01/16 16:11, Bob Minchin wrote:
Bod wrote:
Are there any luddites in here still preferring the old fashioned
slotted screws?
Furniture restorers love em and will usually buy up old stock. The rest
of us realise the poziheads are generally superior to use especially
where they won't be seen.



Personally, I prefer torx

On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 16:23:02 -0000, Tim Watts wrote:

On 10/01/16 16:11, Bob Minchin wrote:
Bod wrote:
Are there any luddites in here still preferring the old fashioned
slotted screws?
Furniture restorers love em and will usually buy up old stock. The rest
of us realise the poziheads are generally superior to use especially
where they won't be seen.

Personally, I prefer torx

I was thinking that, but pozidrive has the advantage that the screwdriver bit falls into place itself as you start turning.

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On 10/01/16 16:30, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 16:23:02 -0000, Tim Watts wrote:

On 10/01/16 16:11, Bob Minchin wrote:
Bod wrote:
Are there any luddites in here still preferring the old fashioned
slotted screws?
Furniture restorers love em and will usually buy up old stock. The rest
of us realise the poziheads are generally superior to use especially
where they won't be seen.

Personally, I prefer torx

I was thinking that, but pozidrive has the advantage that the
screwdriver bit falls into place itself as you start turning.


True - the only problem is it tends to fall out again!

It's not really that much of a problem unless a) it's a very hard
substrate; b) you need them in and out a lot. But as a "vs" thing, I
don't know quite how we got stuck with posi OR phillips, given that both
are inferior (in our world) to robertson, hex and torx. Of the last 3 I
suspect torx may be the most robust, but I have no links to prove it

On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 17:15:35 -0000, Tim Watts wrote:

On 10/01/16 16:30, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 16:23:02 -0000, Tim Watts wrote:

On 10/01/16 16:11, Bob Minchin wrote:
Bod wrote:
Are there any luddites in here still preferring the old fashioned
slotted screws?
Furniture restorers love em and will usually buy up old stock. The rest
of us realise the poziheads are generally superior to use especially
where they won't be seen.

Personally, I prefer torx

I was thinking that, but pozidrive has the advantage that the
screwdriver bit falls into place itself as you start turning.


True - the only problem is it tends to fall out again!

It's not really that much of a problem unless a) it's a very hard
substrate; b) you need them in and out a lot. But as a "vs" thing, I
don't know quite how we got stuck with posi OR phillips, given that both
are inferior (in our world) to robertson, hex and torx. Of the last 3 I
suspect torx may be the most robust, but I have no links to prove it

I don't get pozidrive falling out. As long as the screwdriver is perpendicular, and you're applying a downward force on it. I guess torx are tougher, but I'd think you could put in more pozis a minute.

I don't understand Philips still existing at all. Pozidrive is basically Phillips.1.

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On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 18:43:04 -0000, pamela wrote:

On 17:15 10 Jan 2016, Tim Watts wrote:

On 10/01/16 16:30, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 16:23:02 -0000, Tim Watts
wrote:

On 10/01/16 16:11, Bob Minchin wrote:
Bod wrote:
Are there any luddites in here still preferring the old fashioned
slotted screws?
Furniture restorers love em and will usually buy up old stock. The
rest of us realise the poziheads are generally superior to use
especially where they won't be seen.

Personally, I prefer torx

I was thinking that, but pozidrive has the advantage that the
screwdriver bit falls into place itself as you start turning.

True - the only problem is it tends to fall out again!

I thought the original Phillips head was specifically designed to slip
under pressure (on the assembly line) but not Pozidriv.

But it doesn't slip, it burrs it to make it totally useless. If you want slip, make the motor driving the screwdriver bit have a limited torque, or add a clutch.

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Having a wank and your hand goes to sleep!

On 10/01/16 18:43, pamela wrote:
On 17:15 10 Jan 2016, Tim Watts wrote:

On 10/01/16 16:30, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 16:23:02 -0000, Tim Watts
wrote:

On 10/01/16 16:11, Bob Minchin wrote:
Bod wrote:
Are there any luddites in here still preferring the old fashioned
slotted screws?
Furniture restorers love em and will usually buy up old stock. The
rest of us realise the poziheads are generally superior to use
especially where they won't be seen.

Personally, I prefer torx

I was thinking that, but pozidrive has the advantage that the
screwdriver bit falls into place itself as you start turning.


True - the only problem is it tends to fall out again!

I thought the original Phillips head was specifically designed to slip
under pressure (on the assembly line) but not Pozidriv.

It's not really that much of a problem unless a) it's a very hard
substrate; b) you need them in and out a lot. But as a "vs" thing, I
don't know quite how we got stuck with posi OR phillips, given that
both are inferior (in our world) to robertson, hex and torx. Of the
last 3 I suspect torx may be the most robust, but I have no links to
prove it


Maybe - but PZ are bitches for chewing up too.

"pamela" wrote in message
...
On 17:15 10 Jan 2016, Tim Watts wrote:

On 10/01/16 16:30, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 16:23:02 -0000, Tim Watts
wrote:

On 10/01/16 16:11, Bob Minchin wrote:
Bod wrote:
Are there any luddites in here still preferring the old fashioned
slotted screws?
Furniture restorers love em and will usually buy up old stock. The
rest of us realise the poziheads are generally superior to use
especially where they won't be seen.

Personally, I prefer torx

I was thinking that, but pozidrive has the advantage that the
screwdriver bit falls into place itself as you start turning.


True - the only problem is it tends to fall out again!

I thought the original Phillips head was specifically designed to slip
under pressure (on the assembly line) but not Pozidriv.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...rives#Phillips
The design is often criticized for its tendency to cam out at lower
torque levels than
other "cross head" designs. There has long been a popular belief that
this was actually
a deliberate feature of the design, for the purpose of assembling
aluminum aircraft
without overtightening the fasteners. However, evidence is lacking for
this suggestion.

It's not really that much of a problem unless a) it's a very hard
substrate; b) you need them in and out a lot. But as a "vs" thing, I
don't know quite how we got stuck with posi OR phillips, given that
both are inferior (in our world) to robertson, hex and torx. Of the
last 3 I suspect torx may be the most robust, but I have no links to
prove it

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On 10/01/2016 16:30, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 16:23:02 -0000, Tim Watts wrote:

On 10/01/16 16:11, Bob Minchin wrote:
Bod wrote:
Are there any luddites in here still preferring the old fashioned
slotted screws?
Furniture restorers love em and will usually buy up old stock. The rest
of us realise the poziheads are generally superior to use especially
where they won't be seen.

Personally, I prefer torx

I was thinking that, but pozidrive has the advantage that the
screwdriver bit falls into place itself as you start turning.

I attempted to change to Torx screws but found that I needed 3 different
size bits, whereas with PZ a No2 fitted the whole range.

--
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On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 18:31:35 -0000, David Lang wrote:

On 10/01/2016 16:30, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 16:23:02 -0000, Tim Watts wrote:

On 10/01/16 16:11, Bob Minchin wrote:
Bod wrote:
Are there any luddites in here still preferring the old fashioned
slotted screws?
Furniture restorers love em and will usually buy up old stock. The rest
of us realise the poziheads are generally superior to use especially
where they won't be seen.

Personally, I prefer torx

I was thinking that, but pozidrive has the advantage that the
screwdriver bit falls into place itself as you start turning.

I attempted to change to Torx screws but found that I needed 3 different
size bits, whereas with PZ a No2 fitted the whole range.

Indeed, A PZ2 will operate a PZ1 or PZ3 if you're not too violent or the screw isn't jammed in hard.

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On 10/01/16 18:31, David Lang wrote:
On 10/01/2016 16:30, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 16:23:02 -0000, Tim Watts
wrote:

On 10/01/16 16:11, Bob Minchin wrote:
Bod wrote:
Are there any luddites in here still preferring the old fashioned
slotted screws?
Furniture restorers love em and will usually buy up old stock. The rest
of us realise the poziheads are generally superior to use especially
where they won't be seen.

Personally, I prefer torx

I was thinking that, but pozidrive has the advantage that the
screwdriver bit falls into place itself as you start turning.

I attempted to change to Torx screws but found that I needed 3 different
size bits, whereas with PZ a No2 fitted the whole range.


There is that - as well as T20 torx bits cost £1.20 each, unlike PZ2

On 10/01/2016 16:23, Tim Watts wrote:
On 10/01/16 16:11, Bob Minchin wrote:
Bod wrote:
Are there any luddites in here still preferring the old fashioned
slotted screws?
Furniture restorers love em and will usually buy up old stock. The rest
of us realise the poziheads are generally superior to use especially
where they won't be seen.



Personally, I prefer torx

And if your driver isn't aligned, you only have to turn it a maximum of
60 degrees (as against 90 for pozi/Philips, and 180 for slotted screws).

--
Rod

On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 17:37:06 -0000, polygonum wrote:

On 10/01/2016 16:23, Tim Watts wrote:
On 10/01/16 16:11, Bob Minchin wrote:
Bod wrote:
Are there any luddites in here still preferring the old fashioned
slotted screws?
Furniture restorers love em and will usually buy up old stock. The rest
of us realise the poziheads are generally superior to use especially
where they won't be seen.

Personally, I prefer torx

And if your driver isn't aligned, you only have to turn it a maximum of
60 degrees (as against 90 for pozi/Philips, and 180 for slotted screws).

But pozi screws allow it to drop in when it aligns, so you just start turning gently until it drops in.

Straight wouldn't be so bad if the groove stopped before the edge of the screw. The main problem is the driver slides out the side.

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On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 17:37:06 +0000, polygonum wrote:

And if your driver isn't aligned, you only have to turn it a maximum of
60 degrees (as against 90 for pozi/Philips, and 180 for slotted screws).

30deg, rather than 45/90... You can turn it the other way...

On 10/01/2016 20:10, Adrian wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 17:37:06 +0000, polygonum wrote:

And if your driver isn't aligned, you only have to turn it a maximum of
60 degrees (as against 90 for pozi/Philips, and 180 for slotted screws).

30deg, rather than 45/90... You can turn it the other way...

Quite right.

--
Rod

On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 16:11:23 -0000, Bob Minchin wrote:

Bod wrote:
Are there any luddites in here still preferring the old fashioned
slotted screws?
Furniture restorers love em and will usually buy up old stock. The rest
of us realise the poziheads are generally superior to use especially
where they won't be seen.

"Old stock"? Bloody dozens of places selling straight screws. I've bought some by accident before. I took the time to make sure I got the right strength, the right diameter, the right length, etc, etc, then didn't realise they still sold those bloody straight things!

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On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 16:11:23 -0000, Bob Minchin wrote:

Bod wrote:
Are there any luddites in here still preferring the old fashioned
slotted screws?
Furniture restorers love em and will usually buy up old stock. The rest
of us realise the poziheads are generally superior to use especially
where they won't be seen.

Why would you consider a pozidrive uglier if it can be seen? Six of one half a dozen of the other, it's still a visible screwhead.

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On Sunday, 10 January 2016 16:24:58 UTC, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 16:11:23 -0000, Bob Minchin wrote:

Bod wrote:
Are there any luddites in here still preferring the old fashioned
slotted screws?
Furniture restorers love em and will usually buy up old stock. The rest
of us realise the poziheads are generally superior to use especially
where they won't be seen.

Why would you consider a pozidrive uglier if it can be seen? Six of one half a dozen of the other, it's still a visible screwhead.

I'd have thought if restopring something or wanted it to look old.
it'd be like me restoring a WWI radio and sticking LEDs on it to help tuning .