A new Lidl has recently in our local town - a bit of a novelty as the
nearest Aldlidls are about 20 miles away.

Anyway, popped in today for the first time when passing, to see if they
had any interesting things in their deals. I picked up a new radio
controlled clock as our old one died.

Thing is, it's it sets itself an hour fast. Instructions say it uses the
DCF77 signal from Mainflingen in Germany, which presumably is giving
time in CET (GMT+1). Now I don't really know how the system works, but
the clocks obviously don't know where in the world they are so
presumably are set to pickup a specific signal.

I have a radio controlled watch, but on that I can set the time zone)

So are Lidl are selling a load of clocks which will set themselves wrong
:-)
--
Chris French

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:06:36 -0000, Chris French wrote:

A new Lidl has recently in our local town - a bit of a novelty as the
nearest Aldlidls are about 20 miles away.

Anyway, popped in today for the first time when passing, to see if they
had any interesting things in their deals. I picked up a new radio
controlled clock as our old one died.

Thing is, it's it sets itself an hour fast. Instructions say it uses the
DCF77 signal from Mainflingen in Germany, which presumably is giving
time in CET (GMT+1). Now I don't really know how the system works, but
the clocks obviously don't know where in the world they are so
presumably are set to pickup a specific signal.

I have a radio controlled watch, but on that I can set the time zone)

So are Lidl are selling a load of clocks which will set themselves wrong
:-)

It would be right if our ****wit government hadn't put the clocks back to give us even less light in an already dark winter.

--
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On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:14:02 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

It would be right if our ****wit government hadn't put the clocks back
to give us even less light in an already dark winter.

If you're going to blame politicians, then there's three different dates
you might find useful to remember.

1916, when it was first introduced.
1966, when the start of a trial saw the UK move to GMT+1 all year.
1970, when the House of Commons reviewed the trial and voted
overwhelmingly to go back to the hour change.

But it still wouldn't be right all year, because Germany has an hour
clock change in autumn and spring, too.

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:25:41 -0000, Adrian wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:14:02 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

It would be right if our ****wit government hadn't put the clocks back
to give us even less light in an already dark winter.

If you're going to blame politicians, then there's three different dates
you might find useful to remember.

1916, when it was first introduced.
1966, when the start of a trial saw the UK move to GMT+1 all year.
1970, when the House of Commons reviewed the trial and voted
overwhelmingly to go back to the hour change.

But it still wouldn't be right all year, because Germany has an hour
clock change in autumn and spring, too.

The 1966 thing is what we need. Summer doesn't matter what time it is, there's loads of light. Winter has not enough light, particularly in the evening. So we want the clocks FORWARDS not backwards in winter. Might aswell leave them forwards as summer doesn't matter then we don't have to bother changing the clocks.

--
Clair Frisby talking about a jumbo hot dog on Look North said: "There's nothing like a big hot sausage inside you on a cold night like this."

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:28:18 -0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:25:41 -0000, Adrian wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:14:02 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

It would be right if our ****wit government hadn't put the clocks back
to give us even less light in an already dark winter.

If you're going to blame politicians, then there's three different dates
you might find useful to remember.

1916, when it was first introduced.
1966, when the start of a trial saw the UK move to GMT+1 all year.
1970, when the House of Commons reviewed the trial and voted
overwhelmingly to go back to the hour change.

But it still wouldn't be right all year, because Germany has an hour
clock change in autumn and spring, too.

The 1966 thing is what we need. Summer doesn't matter what time it is, there's loads of light. Winter has not enough light, particularly in the evening. So we want the clocks FORWARDS not backwards in winter. Might aswell leave them forwards as summer doesn't matter then we don't have to bother changing the clocks.

Apparently most English want the above, but not Scots for some reason?

--
What do black men do after sex?
15 years to life.

In article , Mr Macaw wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:28:18 -0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:25:41 -0000, Adrian
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:14:02 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

It would be right if our ****wit government hadn't put the clocks
back to give us even less light in an already dark winter.

If you're going to blame politicians, then there's three different
dates you might find useful to remember.

1916, when it was first introduced. 1966, when the start of a trial
saw the UK move to GMT+1 all year. 1970, when the House of Commons
reviewed the trial and voted overwhelmingly to go back to the hour
change.

But it still wouldn't be right all year, because Germany has an hour
clock change in autumn and spring, too.

The 1966 thing is what we need. Summer doesn't matter what time it is,
there's loads of light. Winter has not enough light, particularly in
the evening. So we want the clocks FORWARDS not backwards in winter.
Might aswell leave them forwards as summer doesn't matter then we don't
have to bother changing the clocks.

Apparently most English want the above, but not Scots for some reason?

It's not setting the clocks back - it's setting them correctly to natural
time.

It was bad enought, as a student, being Christmas Postie with the clocks as
they are now. Sunrise around 8.30am in Edinburgh and there's a lot further
north to go.

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In message , Mr Macaw writes
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:28:18 -0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:25:41 -0000, Adrian wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:14:02 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

It would be right if our ****wit government hadn't put the clocks back
to give us even less light in an already dark winter.

If you're going to blame politicians, then there's three different dates
you might find useful to remember.

1916, when it was first introduced.
1966, when the start of a trial saw the UK move to GMT+1 all year.
1970, when the House of Commons reviewed the trial and voted
overwhelmingly to go back to the hour change.

But it still wouldn't be right all year, because Germany has an hour
clock change in autumn and spring, too.

The 1966 thing is what we need. Summer doesn't matter what time it
is, there's loads of light. Winter has not enough light, particularly
in the evening. So we want the clocks FORWARDS not backwards in
winter. Might aswell leave them forwards as summer doesn't matter then
we don't have to bother changing the clocks.

Apparently most English want the above, but not Scots for some reason?

We're further north and also further west. Edinburgh is further west
than Bristol. The combination makes quite a difference to sunrise.

Brian
--
Brian Howie

On 21/12/2015 12:28, Mr Macaw wrote:

The 1966 thing is what we need. Summer doesn't matter what time it
is, there's loads of light. Winter has not enough light, particularly
in the evening. So we want the clocks FORWARDS not backwards in
winter. Might aswell leave them forwards as summer doesn't matter
then we don't have to bother changing the clocks.

Apparently most English want the above, but not Scots for some reason?

Scottish farmers, if I remember correctly.

--
F

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:28:18 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

1966, when the start of a trial saw the UK move to GMT+1 all year.
1970, when the House of Commons reviewed the trial and voted
overwhelmingly to go back to the hour change.

But it still wouldn't be right all year, because Germany has an hour
clock change in autumn and spring, too.

The 1966 thing is what we need.
So we want the clocks FORWARDS not backwards in winter.

You might. Parliament didn't.

366 votes to 81.

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:40:31 -0000, Adrian wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:28:18 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

1966, when the start of a trial saw the UK move to GMT+1 all year.
1970, when the House of Commons reviewed the trial and voted
overwhelmingly to go back to the hour change.

But it still wouldn't be right all year, because Germany has an hour
clock change in autumn and spring, too.

The 1966 thing is what we need.
So we want the clocks FORWARDS not backwards in winter.

You might. Parliament didn't.

366 votes to 81.

Since when has our government done anything sensible? The problem is the type of power hungry morons who like to take up politics are precisely the type of people that shouldn't.

--
You need only two tools in life. WD-40 and duck tape.
If it doesn't move and it should, use WD-40.
If it moves and shouldn't, use the tape.

Mr Macaw wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:25:41 -0000, Adrian
wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:14:02 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

It would be right if our ****wit government hadn't put the clocks
back to give us even less light in an already dark winter.

If you're going to blame politicians, then there's three different
dates you might find useful to remember.

1916, when it was first introduced.
1966, when the start of a trial saw the UK move to GMT+1 all year.
1970, when the House of Commons reviewed the trial and voted
overwhelmingly to go back to the hour change.

But it still wouldn't be right all year, because Germany has an hour
clock change in autumn and spring, too.

The 1966 thing is what we need. Summer doesn't matter what time it
is, there's loads of light. Winter has not enough light,
particularly in the evening. So we want the clocks FORWARDS not
backwards in winter. Might aswell leave them forwards as summer
doesn't matter then we don't have to bother changing the clocks.

And as now it only gets light at 8AM, if it were left like that, it would
still be dark when all the kids were going to school at 8:30, this is why
they changed it - an extra hour at 4pm is a waste of light, all the kids are
back home by then

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 20:55:21 -0000, Phil L wrote:

Mr Macaw wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:25:41 -0000, Adrian
wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:14:02 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

It would be right if our ****wit government hadn't put the clocks
back to give us even less light in an already dark winter.

If you're going to blame politicians, then there's three different
dates you might find useful to remember.

1916, when it was first introduced.
1966, when the start of a trial saw the UK move to GMT+1 all year.
1970, when the House of Commons reviewed the trial and voted
overwhelmingly to go back to the hour change.

But it still wouldn't be right all year, because Germany has an hour
clock change in autumn and spring, too.

The 1966 thing is what we need. Summer doesn't matter what time it
is, there's loads of light. Winter has not enough light,
particularly in the evening. So we want the clocks FORWARDS not
backwards in winter. Might aswell leave them forwards as summer
doesn't matter then we don't have to bother changing the clocks.

And as now it only gets light at 8AM, if it were left like that, it would
still be dark when all the kids were going to school at 8:30, this is why
they changed it - an extra hour at 4pm is a waste of light, all the kids are
back home by then

Why let kids ruin it for the rest of us? Especially as they're taken to school by car nowadays anyway.

Oh and they've invented streetlamps by the way.

--
Alfred Hitchcock didn't have a belly button.

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 20:55:21 -0000, Phil L wrote:

Mr Macaw wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:25:41 -0000, Adrian
wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:14:02 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

It would be right if our ****wit government hadn't put the clocks
back to give us even less light in an already dark winter.

If you're going to blame politicians, then there's three different
dates you might find useful to remember.

1916, when it was first introduced.
1966, when the start of a trial saw the UK move to GMT+1 all year.
1970, when the House of Commons reviewed the trial and voted
overwhelmingly to go back to the hour change.

But it still wouldn't be right all year, because Germany has an hour
clock change in autumn and spring, too.

The 1966 thing is what we need. Summer doesn't matter what time it
is, there's loads of light. Winter has not enough light,
particularly in the evening. So we want the clocks FORWARDS not
backwards in winter. Might aswell leave them forwards as summer
doesn't matter then we don't have to bother changing the clocks.

And as now it only gets light at 8AM, if it were left like that, it would
still be dark when all the kids were going to school at 8:30, this is why
they changed it - an extra hour at 4pm is a waste of light, all the kids are
back home by then

Yes, and they could have light when they went out to play, which is just, if not more, likely to cause them to get run over.

--
What animal has genitals on its back?
A police horse.

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 20:55:21 -0000, Phil L wrote:

Mr Macaw wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:25:41 -0000, Adrian
wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:14:02 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

It would be right if our ****wit government hadn't put the clocks
back to give us even less light in an already dark winter.

If you're going to blame politicians, then there's three different
dates you might find useful to remember.

1916, when it was first introduced.
1966, when the start of a trial saw the UK move to GMT+1 all year.
1970, when the House of Commons reviewed the trial and voted
overwhelmingly to go back to the hour change.

But it still wouldn't be right all year, because Germany has an hour
clock change in autumn and spring, too.

The 1966 thing is what we need. Summer doesn't matter what time it
is, there's loads of light. Winter has not enough light,
particularly in the evening. So we want the clocks FORWARDS not
backwards in winter. Might aswell leave them forwards as summer
doesn't matter then we don't have to bother changing the clocks.

And as now it only gets light at 8AM, if it were left like that, it would
still be dark when all the kids were going to school at 8:30, this is why
they changed it - an extra hour at 4pm is a waste of light, all the kids are
back home by then

But but but, we have those pesky 20mph limits, it's impossible to kill people on the road....

--
What animal has genitals on its back?
A police horse.

In article ,
Phil L wrote:
And as now it only gets light at 8AM, if it were left like that, it
would still be dark when all the kids were going to school at 8:30,
this is why they changed it - an extra hour at 4pm is a waste of light,
all the kids are back home by then

When I were a kid in the NE of Scotland, we went to school in the dark as
well as coming home after dark for some of the winter.

But had daylight until after 11pm in mid summer.

--
*Ambition is a poor excuse for not having enough sense to be lazy *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 20:55:21 -0000, Phil L wrote:

1966, when the start of a trial saw the UK move to GMT+1 all
year.

The 1966 thing is what we need.

No we fing don't. That trial was awful from the POV of a six year
old, walking to school in the dark wearing the issued Hi-viz waist
coat.

Summer doesn't matter what time it is, there's loads of light.
Winter
has not enough light, particularly in the evening.

If people want to have a BBQ on the patio in late December (and it
has been warm enough for that this year) fit the working hours to the
available daylight. The wage slave 9-5 is an hour offset from (GMT)
daylight, 8-4 would be a better fit and for those that want a BBQ do
7-3.

So we want the clocks FORWARDS not backwards in winter.

The clocks aren't backwards in winter, they are closer to siderial
time, ie noon is when the sun is highest in the sky.

Might aswell leave them forwards as summer doesn't matter then we
don't
have to bother changing the clocks.

Apart from the spurious "light evenings" argument trading with europe
is put forward as a reason for sticking with GMT+1 all year. Except
of course most of the EU moves to GMT+2 in the summer so that blows
that argument out of the water.

And as now it only gets light at 8AM, if it were left like that, it
would still be dark when all the kids were going to school at 8:30, this
is why they changed it - an extra hour at 4pm is a waste of light, all
the kids are back home by then

See above as a six year old in the trial period I hated it and that
was in the Midlands. Up here in the North of England or further north
I dread to think what it was like.

http://www.howhill.com/weather/webcam_24.php

Camera switches to B&W "night" mode about the light level that if you
are outside working by natural light you should have packed up and
finished for day a little while earlier.

That page refreshes each hour, last night 22 Dec was cloudy and dark
(there is a small IR illuminator for the FG). Night before clearish
and lit from an approximately 3/4 full moon.

--
Cheers
Dave.

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:14:02 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:06:36 -0000, Chris French
wrote:

A new Lidl has recently in our local town - a bit of a novelty as the
nearest Aldlidls are about 20 miles away.

Anyway, popped in today for the first time when passing, to see if they
had any interesting things in their deals. I picked up a new radio
controlled clock as our old one died.

Thing is, it's it sets itself an hour fast. Instructions say it uses
the DCF77 signal from Mainflingen in Germany, which presumably is
giving time in CET (GMT+1). Now I don't really know how the system
works, but the clocks obviously don't know where in the world they are
so presumably are set to pickup a specific signal.

I have a radio controlled watch, but on that I can set the time zone)

So are Lidl are selling a load of clocks which will set themselves
wrong :-)

It would be right if our ****wit government hadn't put the clocks back
to give us even less light in an already dark winter.


The sun rises and sets as it wishes, and government regulations change
the amount of light not a single microsecond.

(Which is just another way of saying Phucker is a ****wit.)

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 13:08:25 -0000, Judith wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:14:02 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:06:36 -0000, Chris French
wrote:

A new Lidl has recently in our local town - a bit of a novelty as the
nearest Aldlidls are about 20 miles away.

Anyway, popped in today for the first time when passing, to see if they
had any interesting things in their deals. I picked up a new radio
controlled clock as our old one died.

Thing is, it's it sets itself an hour fast. Instructions say it uses
the DCF77 signal from Mainflingen in Germany, which presumably is
giving time in CET (GMT+1). Now I don't really know how the system
works, but the clocks obviously don't know where in the world they are
so presumably are set to pickup a specific signal.

I have a radio controlled watch, but on that I can set the time zone)

So are Lidl are selling a load of clocks which will set themselves
wrong :-)

It would be right if our ****wit government hadn't put the clocks back
to give us even less light in an already dark winter.

The sun rises and sets as it wishes, and government regulations change
the amount of light not a single microsecond.

The government changes what time of day it's light. Obviously in winter we have lots of dark in the evenings, which is wrong. Clearly it's better to have it dark for an hour early in the morning (all you're doing is driving to work) and have an extra hour of light in the evening when you get home and can enjoy it. If you consider the times of day that most people are awake, it's out of synch with the time that it's light.

(Which is just another way of saying Phucker is a ****wit.)

Thought you killfiled me, liar.

--
What has got two legs and bleeds?
Half a dog!

Mr Macaw wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:06:36 -0000, Chris French
wrote:

A new Lidl has recently in our local town - a bit of a novelty as the
nearest Aldlidls are about 20 miles away.

Anyway, popped in today for the first time when passing, to see if they
had any interesting things in their deals. I picked up a new radio
controlled clock as our old one died.

Thing is, it's it sets itself an hour fast. Instructions say it uses the
DCF77 signal from Mainflingen in Germany, which presumably is giving
time in CET (GMT+1). Now I don't really know how the system works, but
the clocks obviously don't know where in the world they are so
presumably are set to pickup a specific signal.

I have a radio controlled watch, but on that I can set the time zone)

So are Lidl are selling a load of clocks which will set themselves wrong
:-)

It would be right if our ****wit government hadn't put the clocks back
to give us even less light in an already dark winter.



???? Do they change the earth rotation

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 22:56:05 -0000, F Murtz wrote:

Mr Macaw wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:06:36 -0000, Chris French
wrote:

A new Lidl has recently in our local town - a bit of a novelty as the
nearest Aldlidls are about 20 miles away.

Anyway, popped in today for the first time when passing, to see if they
had any interesting things in their deals. I picked up a new radio
controlled clock as our old one died.

Thing is, it's it sets itself an hour fast. Instructions say it uses the
DCF77 signal from Mainflingen in Germany, which presumably is giving
time in CET (GMT+1). Now I don't really know how the system works, but
the clocks obviously don't know where in the world they are so
presumably are set to pickup a specific signal.

I have a radio controlled watch, but on that I can set the time zone)

So are Lidl are selling a load of clocks which will set themselves wrong
:-)

It would be right if our ****wit government hadn't put the clocks back
to give us even less light in an already dark winter.

???? Do they change the earth rotation

The earth's rotation changes by up to 50 seconds either way per day.

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On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 22:56:05 -0000, F Murtz wrote:

Mr Macaw wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:06:36 -0000, Chris French
wrote:

A new Lidl has recently in our local town - a bit of a novelty as the
nearest Aldlidls are about 20 miles away.

Anyway, popped in today for the first time when passing, to see if they
had any interesting things in their deals. I picked up a new radio
controlled clock as our old one died.

Thing is, it's it sets itself an hour fast. Instructions say it uses the
DCF77 signal from Mainflingen in Germany, which presumably is giving
time in CET (GMT+1). Now I don't really know how the system works, but
the clocks obviously don't know where in the world they are so
presumably are set to pickup a specific signal.

I have a radio controlled watch, but on that I can set the time zone)

So are Lidl are selling a load of clocks which will set themselves wrong
:-)

It would be right if our ****wit government hadn't put the clocks back
to give us even less light in an already dark winter.

???? Do they change the earth rotation

No, they come and paint different numbers on all our clocks and watches so the light happens earlier in the day.

--
23% of all photocopier faults worldwide are caused by people sitting on them and photocopying their buttocks.

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:06:36 -0000, Chris French wrote:

A new Lidl has recently in our local town - a bit of a novelty as the
nearest Aldlidls are about 20 miles away.

Anyway, popped in today for the first time when passing, to see if they
had any interesting things in their deals. I picked up a new radio
controlled clock as our old one died.

Thing is, it's it sets itself an hour fast. Instructions say it uses the
DCF77 signal from Mainflingen in Germany, which presumably is giving
time in CET (GMT+1). Now I don't really know how the system works, but
the clocks obviously don't know where in the world they are so
presumably are set to pickup a specific signal.

I have a radio controlled watch, but on that I can set the time zone)

So are Lidl are selling a load of clocks which will set themselves wrong
:-)

Is it this one? https://youtu.be/yNrHeMbdkPQ

--
Why was the guitar teacher arrested?
For fingering A minor.

In message , Mr Macaw writes
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:06:36 -0000, Chris French
wrote:

A new Lidl has recently in our local town - a bit of a novelty as the
nearest Aldlidls are about 20 miles away.

Anyway, popped in today for the first time when passing, to see if they
had any interesting things in their deals. I picked up a new radio
controlled clock as our old one died.

Thing is, it's it sets itself an hour fast. Instructions say it uses the
DCF77 signal from Mainflingen in Germany, which presumably is giving
time in CET (GMT+1). Now I don't really know how the system works, but
the clocks obviously don't know where in the world they are so
presumably are set to pickup a specific signal.

I have a radio controlled watch, but on that I can set the time zone)

So are Lidl are selling a load of clocks which will set themselves wrong
:-)

Is it this one? https://youtu.be/yNrHeMbdkPQ

No, mine is an analogue one.
--
Chris French

In article ,
Chris French wrote:
A new Lidl has recently in our local town - a bit of a novelty as the
nearest Aldlidls are about 20 miles away.

Anyway, popped in today for the first time when passing, to see if they
had any interesting things in their deals. I picked up a new radio
controlled clock as our old one died.

Thing is, it's it sets itself an hour fast. Instructions say it uses the
DCF77 signal from Mainflingen in Germany, which presumably is giving
time in CET (GMT+1). Now I don't really know how the system works, but
the clocks obviously don't know where in the world they are so
presumably are set to pickup a specific signal.

I have a radio controlled watch, but on that I can set the time zone)

So are Lidl are selling a load of clocks which will set themselves wrong
:-)

I bought one from Lidl - which is no longer in my possession, but there is
a button push which allows the hours to be adjusted.

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Please note new email address:

In article ,
Chris French wrote:
A new Lidl has recently in our local town - a bit of a novelty as the
nearest Aldlidls are about 20 miles away.

Anyway, popped in today for the first time when passing, to see if they
had any interesting things in their deals. I picked up a new radio
controlled clock as our old one died.

Thing is, it's it sets itself an hour fast. Instructions say it uses the
DCF77 signal from Mainflingen in Germany, which presumably is giving
time in CET (GMT+1). Now I don't really know how the system works, but
the clocks obviously don't know where in the world they are so
presumably are set to pickup a specific signal.

I have a radio controlled watch, but on that I can set the time zone)

So are Lidl are selling a load of clocks which will set themselves wrong
:-)

I'd be amazed if it's not possible to switch it to GMT. Lidl seem to
manage to sell electrical stuff with UK plugs on them. ;-)

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*Two wrongs are only the beginning *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article ,
Chris French wrote:
A new Lidl has recently in our local town - a bit of a novelty as the
nearest Aldlidls are about 20 miles away.

Anyway, popped in today for the first time when passing, to see if they
had any interesting things in their deals. I picked up a new radio
controlled clock as our old one died.

Thing is, it's it sets itself an hour fast. Instructions say it uses the
DCF77 signal from Mainflingen in Germany, which presumably is giving
time in CET (GMT+1). Now I don't really know how the system works, but
the clocks obviously don't know where in the world they are so
presumably are set to pickup a specific signal.

I have a radio controlled watch, but on that I can set the time zone)

So are Lidl are selling a load of clocks which will set themselves wrong
:-)

I'd be amazed if it's not possible to switch it to GMT. Lidl seem to
manage to sell electrical stuff with UK plugs on them. ;-)

Well yes, but I can't see anyway on this clock
--
Chris French

Well, Its been a while since I could see this, but I remember one clock that
was as described here, but as I recall there was a couple of sentences in
the scrap of paper which doubled as a manual to the effect that if yu press
certain buttons and hold them for x seconds, it allows the ofset to be
changd. This of course was fine until the clocks changed the next time,
whereupon you had lost the bit of paper and could not remember what to push!
Brian

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In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
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In article ,
Chris French wrote:
A new Lidl has recently in our local town - a bit of a novelty as the
nearest Aldlidls are about 20 miles away.

Anyway, popped in today for the first time when passing, to see if they
had any interesting things in their deals. I picked up a new radio
controlled clock as our old one died.

Thing is, it's it sets itself an hour fast. Instructions say it uses the
DCF77 signal from Mainflingen in Germany, which presumably is giving
time in CET (GMT+1). Now I don't really know how the system works, but
the clocks obviously don't know where in the world they are so
presumably are set to pickup a specific signal.

I have a radio controlled watch, but on that I can set the time zone)

So are Lidl are selling a load of clocks which will set themselves wrong
:-)

I'd be amazed if it's not possible to switch it to GMT. Lidl seem to
manage to sell electrical stuff with UK plugs on them. ;-)

Well yes, but I can't see anyway on this clock
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On 22/12/15 09:02, Brian-Gaff wrote:
Well, Its been a while since I could see this, but I remember one clock that
was as described here, but as I recall there was a couple of sentences in
the scrap of paper which doubled as a manual to the effect that if yu press
certain buttons and hold them for x seconds, it allows the ofset to be
changd. This of course was fine until the clocks changed the next time,
whereupon you had lost the bit of paper and could not remember what to push!
Brian


This is why I always scan those scraps of paper and put them in a
directory called 'manuals' on my server..


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On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 13:07:04 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 22/12/15 09:02, Brian-Gaff wrote:
Well, Its been a while since I could see this, but I remember one clock
that was as described here, but as I recall there was a couple of
sentences in the scrap of paper which doubled as a manual to the effect
that if yu press certain buttons and hold them for x seconds, it allows
the ofset to be changd. This of course was fine until the clocks
changed the next time, whereupon you had lost the bit of paper and
could not remember what to push!
Brian


This is why I always scan those scraps of paper and put them in a
directory called 'manuals' on my server..

I put them on my e-reader too.

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 13:05:15 -0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Chris French wrote:
A new Lidl has recently in our local town - a bit of a novelty as the
nearest Aldlidls are about 20 miles away.

Anyway, popped in today for the first time when passing, to see if they
had any interesting things in their deals. I picked up a new radio
controlled clock as our old one died.

Thing is, it's it sets itself an hour fast. Instructions say it uses the
DCF77 signal from Mainflingen in Germany, which presumably is giving
time in CET (GMT+1). Now I don't really know how the system works, but
the clocks obviously don't know where in the world they are so
presumably are set to pickup a specific signal.

I have a radio controlled watch, but on that I can set the time zone)

So are Lidl are selling a load of clocks which will set themselves wrong
:-)

I'd be amazed if it's not possible to switch it to GMT. Lidl seem to
manage to sell electrical stuff with UK plugs on them. ;-)

What happened to the days when people knew how to fit their own plugs?

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On 21/12/2015 12:06, Chris French wrote:
A new Lidl has recently in our local town - a bit of a novelty as the
nearest Aldlidls are about 20 miles away.

Anyway, popped in today for the first time when passing, to see if they
had any interesting things in their deals. I picked up a new radio
controlled clock as our old one died.

Thing is, it's it sets itself an hour fast. Instructions say it uses the
DCF77 signal from Mainflingen in Germany, which presumably is giving
time in CET (GMT+1). Now I don't really know how the system works, but
the clocks obviously don't know where in the world they are so
presumably are set to pickup a specific signal.

I have a radio controlled watch, but on that I can set the time zone)

So are Lidl are selling a load of clocks which will set themselves wrong
:-)

I have bought 3 from Lidl over the years and they all have had the
ability to set the displayed time as +/- 1, 2 or 3 hours. Try playing
with the menus or if all else fails try google for the exact type - you
will probably find the info.



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In message , Chris B
writes
On 21/12/2015 12:06, Chris French wrote:
A new Lidl has recently in our local town - a bit of a novelty as the
nearest Aldlidls are about 20 miles away.

Anyway, popped in today for the first time when passing, to see if they
had any interesting things in their deals. I picked up a new radio
controlled clock as our old one died.

Thing is, it's it sets itself an hour fast. Instructions say it uses the
DCF77 signal from Mainflingen in Germany, which presumably is giving
time in CET (GMT+1). Now I don't really know how the system works, but
the clocks obviously don't know where in the world they are so
presumably are set to pickup a specific signal.

I have a radio controlled watch, but on that I can set the time zone)

So are Lidl are selling a load of clocks which will set themselves wrong
:-)

I have bought 3 from Lidl over the years and they all have had the
ability to set the displayed time as +/- 1, 2 or 3 hours. Try playing
with the menus or if all else fails try google for the exact type - you
will probably find the info.

There are no menus, googling it up produces no results.

Manual is here is any one thinks I'm not reading them correctly.

http://www.lidl-service.com/cps/rde/...lsp/hs.xsl/pro
duct.html?id=140798043&rdeLocaleAttr=en&title=RADI O-CONTROLLED%20WALL%20C
LOCK

I think Lidl have cocked up :-)
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On Monday, 21 December 2015 13:40:41 UTC, Chris French wrote:

I think Lidl have cocked up :-)

It seems that way!

Could you carefully remove the hour hand and refit it an hour previous? It might be a keyed shaft to ease assembly (no calibration) however if it is just a splined/interference shaft you might be okay.

Mathew

In message ,
Mathew Newton writes
On Monday, 21 December 2015 13:40:41 UTC, Chris French wrote:

I think Lidl have cocked up :-)

It seems that way!

Could you carefully remove the hour hand and refit it an hour previous?
It might be a keyed shaft to ease assembly (no calibration) however if
it is just a splined/interference shaft you might be okay.


Quite possibly, but I've got better things to do right now.


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In message , Chris French
writes
In message ,
Mathew Newton writes
On Monday, 21 December 2015 13:40:41 UTC, Chris French wrote:

I think Lidl have cocked up :-)

It seems that way!

Could you carefully remove the hour hand and refit it an hour
previous? It might be a keyed shaft to ease assembly (no calibration)
however if it is just a splined/interference shaft you might be okay.


Quite possibly, but I've got better things to do right now.


Well, as it happens, I was sat with the clock nearby, and I thought I've
nothing to lose by having a poke about.

The front came off easily , secured with 4 sprung clips.

I pulled off the second hand, but the main hands seem to be on a
hexagonal shaft. They wouldn't easily come off anyway. On a whim I just
moved the hands back to 11 o'clock and set it off again. Low and behold
it now shows the correct time :-)

Actually the minute hand is about 1/4 minute off, but I'm sure I can
tweak that if it bothers me.

Presumably that is how they should have been sold.
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On Monday, 21 December 2015 14:30:43 UTC, Chris French wrote:

Could you carefully remove the hour hand and refit it an hour previous?
It might be a keyed shaft to ease assembly (no calibration) however if
it is just a splined/interference shaft you might be okay.


Quite possibly, but I've got better things to do right now.

Ah, but think of the extra hour it'll give you... you might even have time to put your feet up if you finish early! ;-)

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 13:30:02 +0000, Chris French
wrote:

Manual is here is any one thinks I'm not reading them correctly.

http://www.lidl-service.com/cps/rde/...lsp/hs.xsl/pro
duct.html?id=140798043&rdeLocaleAttr=en&title=RAD IO-CONTROLLED%20WALL%20C
LOCK

I think Lidl have cocked up :-)

Sounds like it.

Does the clock start at 12, 4, or 8? Could be the hands were put on wrong...?


Thomas Prufer

In message , Thomas Prufer
writes
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 13:30:02 +0000, Chris French
wrote:

Manual is here is any one thinks I'm not reading them correctly.

http://www.lidl-service.com/cps/rde/...lsp/hs.xsl/pro
duct.html?id=140798043&rdeLocaleAttr=en&title=RA DIO-CONTROLLED%20WALL%20C
LOCK

I think Lidl have cocked up :-)

Sounds like it.

Does the clock start at 12, 4, or 8? Could be the hands were put on wrong...?


They start at 12.

However, perusing the Lidl service site, I found the same looking clock
sold previously under a different model number.

It says for UK the hands should go to 11 (and for a couple of other
countries to 1, presumably as they are an hour ahead)

looks like my clock should have stayed on the mainland :-)
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On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 14:56:54 +0000, Chris French
wrote:

It says for UK the hands should go to 11 (and for a couple of other
countries to 1, presumably as they are an hour ahead)

looks like my clock should have stayed on the mainland :-)

Ah! Problem found.

Maybe they will give you a "goes to 11" one in exchange.


Thomas Prufer

replying to Chris French , Unclefista wrote:
newsgrp wrote:

In message , Thomas Prufer
writes
They start at 12.
However, perusing the Lidl service site, I found the same looking clock
sold previously under a different model number.
It says for UK the hands should go to 11 (and for a couple of other
countries to 1, presumably as they are an hour ahead)
looks like my clock should have stayed on the mainland :-)
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I've just sorted mine out, no menu or anything complicated

The clock face/mechanism is held into the case with 4 wire clips. Unclip
these from the case (the end closest to you, not the point of the V that
presses against the black plastic of the mechanism, you'll see what I mean
when you look.

Then I physically moved the hour hand back an hour.

Clips clip back into place.

That's it..

Took me about 2 minutes because I was being careful.

HTH

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